"Playing Outside the Bach(s)" - An Interview with Cellist Dorothy Lawson, Artistic Director and Founding Member of ETHEL

The Cello Sherpa Podcast

The Cello Sherpa Podcast
"Playing Outside the Bach(s)" - An Interview with Cellist Dorothy Lawson, Artistic Director and Founding Member of ETHEL
May 01, 2026 Season 6 Episode 9
Joel Dallow

One missed signup and a burst of kid-level courage can set an entire life in motion. Cellist and composer Dorothy Lawson grew up in Toronto surrounded by classical music and strong school music programs, but she didn’t “choose” cello in some grand, cinematic way. She simply chose to participate a day late, and the next opening happened to be cello. From there, the path becomes a masterclass in how musicians are formed: early access, social learning, and the kind of training that turns curiosity into craft.

We also get into the part of music that’s harder to explain but easier to feel. Dorothy shares research from a university residency where heart-rate monitors track performers and audiences in real time, showing surprisingly synchronized rises and falls. It’s a powerful lens on why live performance matters, why vibrations and attention change a room, and why the concert hall can still be a place of real human connection even in a distracted age.

From Vienna to Juilliard to New York City, Dorothy breaks down how NYC can sharpen an artist, and how that environment helped shape Ethel, the genre-bending string quartet she co-founded. We talk contemporary classical music, crossover language that welcomes new listeners, collaborations that center Native American composers, and the blunt economics that made classical programming feel predictable until presenters and artists started taking risks again. If you care about chamber music, music education, Juilliard, New York artistry, and the future of the string quartet, you’ll leave with both ideas and practical perspective.

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