Focus on Others - Serve First Episode 65 Francois Lupien High Performance Mentor - How to Become More

Francois Lupien is a dynamic coach, mentor and speaker whose experience includes successfully working with Tony Robbins, Stephen Covey (7 Habits of Highly Effective People) and as a consultant with Bob Proctor (Movie: The Secret 2006).

Achieving excellence in everything he puts his mind to, Francois has been a Tae Kwon Do Canadian champion, a Top Real Estate agent for 11 years with Remax, and a serial entrepreneur with multiple successful 6-figure businesses.

There were some fantastic lessons in the conversations and I think it’s one of those Episodes that you could save and listen to again and again, especially if you’re feeling a little low.

Francois reminded me again of the value of surrounding yourself with people who are moving forward rather than standing still or moving backwards. Francois mentioned Bob Proctor going into a bar and announcing he was never coming back.

I had a similar experience in PNG when I realised that the men sitting at the bar talking about the ‘good old day’s’ were just stuck and it wasn’t who I wanted to be associated with.

So the message is to surround yourself with good people. Don’t be afraid to ask for help, and approach life with a “How can I serve and add value first” attitude and in return you’ll be rewarded.

If you’re an individual looking for peak performance then please reach out to Francois. All his details are in the show notes below

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Transcript

Francois Lupien: 0:00

Whenever things are bad or whatev serve others and add value to others, stop thinking about yourself. Oh, but there's nothing I can do. Go, go help someone else. Forget about. And help and serve others by adding value. This equation will provide. all the time. Sometimes not monetary, but I call it psychic money. By psychic money, I mean, everything's bad, everybody's unhappy, and you go and serve and uplift someone and they give you a smile of gratitude. When you go to bed at night, you got a smile on your face and no one can take that away. And with that attitude, the next day, your emotional bank account is not in the negative. You've made some deposits in it, and from there you can go at it in the, in the and if bad things happen, that makes withdrawals out of your emotional bank account because you constantly put deposits on it, you'll be able to sustain it. Otherwise you're gonna go down.

Steve Sandor: 0:58

My guest today is Francois Luen, who is based in Ontario, Canada, and Francois is a dynamic coach and you'll hear it in his voice. Uh, I've had a number of conversations with Francois and it is inspiring. He's also a speaker whose experience includes successfully working with Tony Robbins, Stephen Covey from The Seven Habits of Highly Effective People, one of my favorite books, and a consultant with Bob Proctor from the movie called The Secret, which was released in 2006. Achieving excellence in everything he puts his mind to. Francois has been a TaeKwonDo Canadian champion, a top real estate agent for 11 years with Remax and a serial entrepreneur with multiple six figure business successes. Francois, I'm really pleased to have you here as my guest on the Inspiring Business Podcast.

Francois Lupien: 1:53

Thank you so much for having me. It's a pleasure. Sometimes when I just listen to this, I go, is that really me? No, we're, we're,

Steve Sandor: 2:01

you are probably the most famous person I've had on this podcast to date, other than myself, obviously. Um,

Francois Lupien: 2:10

Striving for the getting better and excellence in Nashville. Yeah.

Steve Sandor: 2:14

Yeah. Um, where, yeah. So what, what I'd love, uh, for you to do before we get into the nitty gritty of what you do is just a little bit of your background, you know, the history that got you to, um, to, to where you are today. Um,

Francois Lupien: 2:31

one of my favorite things, uh, to say is when I was around four or five years, I was, uh, I had those, uh, uh, I'm, I was, I'm 62 as of yesterday. Instead of those roller blades, I got the wheels in line. There's roller skates where there's four different wheels. And so I tried them. I put'em on my boots and I'm, and I'm falling. I'm not liking the experience. So I'm coming home and I'm just kicking them and, and frustrated and crying. And my mom says, what's going on? I says, I can't do this. I don't want this. And she says, okay, okay, come with me. So we go outside and she readjusts the roller skates. For her shoes. She puts them on and she roller skates on the street in front while I'm sitting on the sidewalk. And then she comes in front of me and she kneels in front of me. She looks at me straight in the eyes. She says, you can do anything you want in your life. You will fall, but get back up and you can make it happen. Now. Let's put those things back on your feet. And so she did, and she encouraged me to. And then a couple of weeks later, I was, uh, attached with a rope in back of a bicycle and being pulled with my rollers case on the street. Why am I saying this? Because someone believed in me. Someone coached me, someone showed me that challenges are part of life, but if we get up one more time, then we fall, we can overcome. So that sounds. Wow. Yeah, but I was young and it was my mother that did that since, and so that helped me a lot in the challenges that you face. I face everybody face in lives. That philosophy that my mom instilled into me at a very young age.

Steve Sandor: 4:09

Wow. And, and so throughout your informative years, Um, was your mother the, the one person who inspired you through that process, or were there other people that sort of, not I, I'm not talking about Tony Robbins, but We'll, we'll get to that and talking about young, but in those informative years, was it that one person who, you know, helped and, um, cared for you?

Francois Lupien: 4:38

Yes, my mom, once again, as you say this, another example comes to mind and is when I was seven years old, she put me into a diction class, which is how to speak eloquently and articulate when you speak. So there was 25 7 year olds and we were given a speech, a poem, a story to memorize, and then present in front of our peers once a week. So we started with 25 and we ended with seven. And so, but my mom would make me, uh, uh, rehearse every day. I got to, at first, I didn't like it. I, I got to love it and really love it so that now I can speak biggest crowd. So far, 2000. I'm aspiring for 10,000 people easily. Why? People says, Hey, you're so comfortable speaking in front of people because I paid the price. Mm-hmm. but once again, it was my mom that that says, You can do this, and she helped me doing it because if we're left alone, I think that, you know, our own efforts lack, endurance, persistent consistency until we develop the muscle to do it. Mm-hmm. So having others around us helps us to do it. And so my mom is one that, that, that really shaped it. And you said formative years. So for me it's below eight years old. Mm-hmm. And

Steve Sandor: 5:57

have you ever had an opportunity or did you have an opportunity to, to talk with her about that, your experiences? Cuz I can imagine. You know, as a child, there's you, you are experimenting, right? You're trying to find, you're trying to find your, your space, you know, so there's a little bit of rebel rebellion. There's a little bit of, you know, a teenage years

Francois Lupien: 6:26

Yeah. You know? Um,

Steve Sandor: 6:29

And, and I think what, you know, I'd like to come to this in terms of adults about how, uh, how adults, particularly in today's world, there is this expectation that things just fall into your lap. And I'm not sure that that's true. I think that's probably a narrative in the, in, in the world. You know, we talk about the younger people, how they always wonder. I, well, I remember when I was young, I, I, I don't think I was any different. It was just the society that we're in. but, so my question is, is did you have an opportunity to talk with your mother and did she give you some insights into how or why she was doing what she was doing?

Francois Lupien: 7:12

Very interesting question. My mom is now 91 and she is in a retirement home, and I go and visit her every Sunday. it's an hour and a half to drive there, an hour and a half to drive back. And I see every Sunday, and I tell her about how thankful I am for the experiences that she made me do in my life. And sometimes she goes, I did that. I says, yeah, you did, mom, and, and actually, and I'm gonna tell her next Sunday, and I talk to you again on a show live. And she just smashed, goes, really? I says, mom, you're amazing. And so she's 91, sometimes she's a hundred percent and sometimes not. but it's, it's to pay back. And so if everybody's listening here, don't wait for your mom, or do you ever the person to be 91, not get everything? Let's, let's share with them faster what it is that they've ed in our life or the direction or the positive aspect that they've given to us. It's, and if it's an, this is an interesting part also, and it's because I'm getting older, I gather. Is if the experience are not to your liking, go and find out why did this happen? What was it in your mind that made you do these things that, that I didn't understand? Case and point, I have six children. I'm, I'm, uh, last of two, but I have six. And some of you say, oh, that's crazy, whatever it is. But I can tell you one thing is when there's six kids around the table, and if there's one that starts to lose it and scream, unless you bring it back to, Hey, let's make it happen in more of a, you need to get attention type. You're gonna be in the ditch so fast, your head's gonna spin. So you need to tighten the ropes faster a little bit. And some of my kids are telling me, dad, sometimes we, we puckered up at the table because we didn't wanna step outta line. And I says, I'm not doing this with my kid. Singular. I says, you said it only one. When it's one, you can let them be, but when there's six you can't. And it says, That's what happened. Now I understand that since there was so many of us, we couldn't like just go crazy, otherwise you'd lose it all. And so it's interesting, I'm telling him. So what you have just mentioned, we should talk to people earlier about these things to find out because everybody's got a reason. I sincerely believe Steve, that everybody is nice. Everybody is nice. If so, Things go sideways. It is because there's something broken inside. There's something that's not happening. And if to an inquisitive mind you find out, you're gonna realize that they're as human as you and me and they got frailties and strength like you and me. But when we address them, the good seems to come out of everybody. So that's that. Yeah. That's something you're talking about My mom and my kids I'm doing right now. Sometimes they. and I go, well, did you know why I did this? And they go, oh, wow. That's amazing. Mm-hmm. understand communication, what a concept.

Steve Sandor: 10:09

Yeah. I came from a, um, European family and, as kids we would sit at the table and we were, we would speak when we were spoken to. Right. And. I know that people today, they go, let it's a lot freer, you know, let them be who they are. But when I wasn't speaking, I was listening. When I was listening, I was learning Right. As a seven or a five or six year old. Right. What I, I was, I was creative. You know, I had my, my thoughts about me. But it's not until you've actually said that, that I've now reflected back on my life. And I went, huh, that's, that's really interesting. Because my father was very stoic, right? So it was like you sat at the table and came from a military background. Um, but it served me so well in, in later life, you know, because I was always interested in listening to what people had to say rather than, rather than speaking. Um, Um, yeah, six kids. I dunno how you get to do anything else in your life. I've got four. Uh, uh, yeah, it, it's, it's an interesting experience. Um, love them dearly. And you've got five grandkids. I've got one. So I, you know, I. I think as we grow older, um, that experience of having family around us is really important, which is the sort I was thinking when you were, when you were talking that, that sliding door moment, you know, so you get, you have, uh, uh, not everybody is fortunate to live a life, you know, where they have loving and caring parents. They may grow up in, um, in area, you know, in a, in. Family environment that's not conducive to love and care. And then they turn up into the, into the workplace. Not broken, but just different to, to the, um, to what's typically around them. And so their behavior is different. So, We'll get a little bit into what you do. Um, uh, before that, before we come

Francois Lupien: 12:22

into another ex example that, cuz he asked me what led me to where I'm at. Yeah. Now I'm 18 years old and at 18 years old, this, this friend of mine says, Hey, come, there's this guy speaking, we need to go and listen to him. Says, who is it that, don't worry, come that, uh, curiosity approach type thing. So I'm 18 years old. I come in the room and then this guy on stage, Start sort of dancing and making circles. He was an Amway distributor, Amway like, uh, so that's a long time ago, 44 years ago. And so he started to draw a circle. This guy was making 60 million a year. I am 18 years old and I am freaking out, what, 60 million a year. And I went and shake his hand. We talked to him and this guy was very, Black and white in, in, in the way that he was speaking. And I asked him, I says, why are you so black and white? He says, because I have so many people depending on me, that when I talk to one, no the telephone game, by the time it gets to the end, if I say I was in Paris, next thing you know, people says I was scuba diving and so everything changes, so I need to be very black and white. But he said something interesting. He said, do you know people in your environ. that when good things happen to them, they start to say, oh, this won't last. Something's gonna happen. I'm gonna lose it. I go, well, I knew someone like that very well. Actually. My dad and my dad, I remember one time he comes, so, Hey, I got a$10,000 bonus and I'm so happy, but something's gonna happen. I'm gonna lose it. And I'm just eating like you supper. I'm just listening. Two days later, my sister scraps a car,$10,000 and my dad. I knew it and I go, wow, but I, I didn't pay too much attention, but this guy making 60 million says, do, do you know? I go, yeah. He says, do you know he can do the opposite? I go, what? So that was a mic drop for me. What do you mean the opposite? He says, you can use your mind. To, to design something better that you want rather than being a victim of circumstances, being a creator of the environment that you want. And he says, caveat to everybody here, does it work? A hundred percent of the time? No. Life happens, but it happens more than often than not. Yes. And so, and the way to do this is, is you don't listen to the news. You don't read the newspaper, you don't listen to the radio, and then you put some cassettes in your car that, that dates me. And you only put good stuff in your mind. You read a good book every month and, and he also said something who says you respect other people's women, which was very interesting. I like, And then he said as a man, and, and again, remember this is 40, uh, four years ago, which is a long time ago. He was, we would call him chauvinistic now, but he said something interesting. He said, and if anybody here is driving a A B M W or Mercedes and you're doing so because your wife is working, I want you to come on the stage right now. I'm gonna kick your butt because you need to take your responsibility, not shift into your wife. What. As I said, this won't fly now, but it was still something that he instilled in me and. um, uh, I, I did sales. I did many things, many, and so a lot of people play golf. I never played golf because it takes four hours away of your life and I have six kids. I'm not gonna do that to my wife. So that's that, that, that idea that he got into me. But the personal development as of to date, I, I calculate roughly, but I'm over$200,000 of investment in myself in personal and professional develop. For that. And because of that, I've created many successes because I've worked on myself. And so he was a major thing. So what happened? And so through the different things that I did in my life, now I'm doing it full-time, enjoying it a hundred percent. I did it corporately before, now I'm doing it for myself and, and life is wonderful.

Steve Sandor: 16:26

Thank you for that. I, um, I had a similar experience, it was an Amway convention, and, uh, the speaker at the at on stage said, look, this is not for everybody. But if you join us and you leave a better person, a better father, a better something. Right? Then we've have, we have done our job because it was the people that you associate with the books that you read and the tapes that you listen to made the person, and that's, you know, the Zig Ziglars of the world. They, you know, there was a, you would buy the stereo or the, the four pack or six pack audio version of Jim Dornan speaking, and it was me personally, it was like the forerunner of my inte, uh, emotional intelligence journey that, you know, that was those informative years. So, But you, um, I'll sort of, I'll, I'll, if I can circle back, it's probably relates now more to what you are doing now, but that, you know, you are dealing with people in a peak performance. You are, you work with sporting people as well as individuals. Um, you've got a sporting background, uh, or, uh, you know, uh, you champion in TaeKwonDo. So how, what's the approach that you use when you, when you work with people to get, try and get the best out of them?

Francois Lupien: 17:52

Peak performance is, is what I really appreciate and I love to live and teach. I'm, I'm 62 and for those who don't see it, that's me this summer, that's a racing motorcross and I'm in fifth gear popping the wheely. And so life is great. Mediocrity is not an option.

Steve Sandor: 18:15

Nice. I'm a motorbike rider too, but, um, uh, I don't do wheelies, I'm more of, you're on the knee But anyway. Yeah. Uh, so peak performance. So what does that, so what does that mean? So if, um, you know, when you work with people, what, what's the transformation that you're trying to.

Francois Lupien: 18:38

I am gonna answer you in a, in, in a way that is maybe different than what most people will say. I have to find out where you are and find out where you want to go, and then help you build the bridge to, to, to close that gap. It, it is not, I say, um, prescription without evaluation is malpractice. So when you come to. I have to find out what's happening with you. Not, oh, you wanna be a pick performer? Okay, we need to do this, this, this, this, and that. I have to find out where you're at because if I'm not, then it's like, uh, you're gonna laugh on this one. It's as if you send a duck to Eagle School and it, it graduates from flying colors. But then when he opens his mouth, he still goes whack So, so we need to find out what the people are. You don't teach a fish how to climb a tree and beat him up until he learns how to do it. He lives in water. So let's find out what can be done in water. And if it's a monkey, well, you don't put him in the water. And by that I mean you understand the different characteristics on this. Uh, I'm using a metaphor. Yeah. So that's what I help people do. What is it that you want? But mediocrity is not an option. If you come into my world, it's because you want to get better. So let's get. Let, let's, let's get, let's get real or let's not play.

Steve Sandor: 20:04

So what's the, what's the basic philosophy that, that you, that you tap into?

Francois Lupien: 20:11

Basic philosophy inside of you is already everything that you need. We just need to clear the filters that have been hiding it, and then once we clear those filters, the real U comes out. And when the real U comes. It doesn't matter the outside pressure that exists anymore because you're not holding on from things on the outside. You're letting the inside out. So when you live your life from the inside out, the outside circumstances don't matter anymore, and that's when you're in control and a creator rather than a victim of what's going on. That's the philosophy that I have. People have let, uh, dust accumulate on their dreams for so long. we need to dust them out and shine them and make'em bright. And then that rejuvenates the people. And as I said, it comes from within. If it comes from within, doesn't matter what happens outside. So that's, that's the basic philosophy. And in there, people get turned on by themselves. So I make the crank, instead of having a crank for people, says, can you crank me to help me? I put their crank in the front so they can crank themselves and make it happen. So they become self-reliant in their own journey as. As you can tell, I'm excited about this Yeah.

Steve Sandor: 21:22

Yeah. It's, it's infectious. It, it, it certainly is. Um, over the past two years we've been, well, probably three years now. It's funny how, uh, you know, in 2023 and the pandemic started in 2000, it feels, feels like yesterday, uh, it wasn't that fun. Um, and, and for, for some people it actually was. You know, it actually did, uh, enable people to slow down and take stock of where they were or have an opportunity to change what they were doing. Um, got reflective. Uh, and it sort of leads back to what you were talking about. You know, you stopped listening to the news. Um, Receiving negative input, I guess. Um, and, and looking at, you know, how can you make your life better and to be accountable for that. So over the past three years, have you seen a shift in people's attitudes towards business and they're, and, and you know, how they're approaching it. So that's the first part of the question. And. Have you seen any negative impact in the isolation that we've, that we've had over the last couple of years as well?

Francois Lupien: 22:56

Interesting. Check my answer. It depends where you look, because if you are looking for a negative impact, you're gonna find it. If you look for a positive impact, you're gonna find. So in essence, again, you are in control of what you seek and what you find. The best way to to, to talk about this is our reticular, activators. You're familiar with this? Mm-hmm. So, and I'm not sure if my numbers are exact, but there's 2 billion bits of information that our eyes can. Can actually perceive, but only 2000 bits of information that they can concentrate on at any given time. And it's your thoughts and your feelings that dictate what is it that you're gonna focus on. Best example, when you buy a new car or a car that is new to you. and then you drive it and then you're all excited and you got a stop sign and man there's the same car, same color. Then you go to the shopping mall and, and there's a 2, 3, 4 cars like yours. So what just happened? Because you decide to buy a car, everybody buys that car. No, it's because you're now perceiving it because there is an emotional attachment to something happening in your life. Therefore asking a question, a shift in attitude. What happened? If you look at people that. Not strong quote unquote, and letting themselves hit by outside circumstances they were destroyed and the people that were strong and not letting outside circumstances control them flourished. It's always the same story happening. It's always the same story. We need to learn from history and so, and then make sure that we don't make the mistakes ourselves. Is it easy to do? I'll tell you right now. No, it's not. And you know what? You can't do it alone. You need someone else. You need a coach, you need a mentor. You need a friend. You need a supporter. You need an environment conducive to the area that you want to go. So Bob Proctor, at one point, uh, before he, he was, he was going to a a, a tavern. You have taverns, it's like a bar. And he used to go there after. and on Fridays and always the boys that were there. And, and at one point he comes in there and he says, and no offense to anybody, it's just a story I'm relating. He comes in, he goes, man, what a bunch of losers in here And then he says, I'm not coming back anymore. And then he left and he never came back. And he, he was saying that it might be 50 years I'm not there. And then even notice, I'm.

Steve Sandor: 25:26

And they're, and they're probably sitting, they're probably sitting in the same stools talking about the same stuff today.

Francois Lupien: 25:32

Exactly. Not, not changing anything because they're not taking action. And so, So all this to say that in the, in the, you say the shift in attitude according to where the people chose to have their environment, that's what dictated in a lot of ways what it is that would do. Now I'll tell you, and you said, was there uh, uh, an impact with isolation? Isolation and stuff? I'll answer this. I had other businesses and one of them was a construction company and it folded during. Because the suppliers would take six to eight months to give me the stuff. So would you be interested in giving me$60,000 for something and it takes six to eight months before we start doing something, you're gonna say, no, no, no, it doesn't work. It was very challenging. Plus, where I am in Canada, the government was giving people$2,000 a month to stay. What? So now you tell people, Hey, you wanna come work? I'm not working, man. I'm watching Netflix. I'm with my family. What? It was very interesting. And so therefore, no, no one to install and make things happen. And the, the material was like six, eight week in months. Sorry. So you can't, you can't survive, Annie. You gotta make some money. Right? And so I was always coaching all the time. So then I just kicked that one in gear more and more. And it's wonderful that I was able, Unquote rescue people. Now, I'll, I'll put a a, an interesting twist on this. When the, let's say the Titanic is sinking and you and I are there, and the listeners picture yourself in this, I'm gonna tell you, the tide IK is sunk, and you're lucky enough to be in one of those little raft boats, okay? And now there's hundreds of people all around you. Who are you gonna say first, don't judge me on this. Just, just listen to what I'm gonna tell. And then says, oh, the old lady that's about to drown, or this, or that, you know, oh, you, I'm gonna be altruistic. Hold on a second. Hear me out. This is my suggestion, and it's because I'm a lifeguard, uh, in, in the water. So, so who are you gonna say first? The ones that are swimming towards the boat. Those who you say First we say Wawa. Why? Why? I tell you why. If there's two, three, or four and I grab them and put'em in the boat, now there's five of us rescuing the others. did you see what just happened? So our limited understanding of saying, Hey, what's happening? We need to understand that. Get strong with others and with them you'll be able to move mountains. It's a very powerful way of saying that. What's the environment that you're in? If you're with complainers and people that says that nothing is possible, you're gonna believe that you're gonna adopt that and you're gonna act in that way. But if we do, people that are pushing you and saying, Hey, let's make it happen, mediocrity is not an option. You fell down, get back up, and so you're gonna be inspired. And by you being inspired, you're gonna be inspiring other people as. So the thing that you talked about, I've answered in a different way, I'm sure, but it's, it depends. It depends on who. Some people, unfortunately, they were crushed by it. They were alone at home, isolated not to be able to see people. And one thing that crushed me and my mom turned 90 years old, I couldn't even go see her. It freaked her out and freaked me out. What? I can't even see my mom. That was, that was insane for her. but these things, as some people flourished and some people didn't actually, the uh uh, I shown you doing the wheelies when I was a kid. I used to race a lot and I stopped for a while. Having six kids, you have to put some things on the side. Now there's one left of the house. And so we bought bikes and we got back into it, and Covid is one of the things that we could do as a family. And my wife's got the four wheeler and so we have a good time doing this. But what I'm saying is that it developed, we, we decided to do something about it. And also if you want to shoot pool man, get ready for two years. We were playing pool just about every day. Cause we have a pool table. So what I say is, if you got lemon, make lemonade. It lemon lemonade and quench your thirst and the thirst of others around you. So that's my philosophy of this. Some. There was definitely, and, and, and I know it was some bad, some people lost lives and of loved ones. It was terrible. Definitely I'm not, I'm not saying that it wasn't, but there's ways to overcome these things. There's grief, but there's also the other side of the coin, and we decide which side of the coin we focus on. And just by doing that makes us a better individual and helps others to be uplifted. Will we uplift everybody? No, we can't. But we can do the best that we can by smiling and helping others. So that's my take on, on this, this very challenging time that okur, it was not easy. I can't say it was easy.

Steve Sandor: 30:24

And the interesting thing is that, uh, it was just a moment in history, and we're coming up with another moment in history. I don't know, you know, in Australia, inflation is, uh, increasing interest rates increasing. I think that's a globally, that's another pandemic that we, it's just a financial pandemic. And, and, you know, it's, it's the. I don't wanna say Pollyanna approach, right? But it is what, where is the opportunity in this, what could we do to enable us to, um, uh, take advantage of the circumstances and situations around it? Because everybody that I saw who acted out of fear, and started cutting, you know, cutting expenses, cutting things down. And you're right, there were some industries that just couldn't survive, you know, uh, hospitality, tourism, yes. Those that were directly affected by everybody not being able to change with the way that they were operating. There was a company in, uh, where I very close to where I lived that they made gin, right? And they had a, they were actually in a hospitality. They had a restaurant and a, you know, that you could go to lunch and they manufactured gin and you would go and have gin. Um, and they pivoted and, uh, converted into making, um, hand clean. Same process. So it was exactly the, you know, making gin and, and hand cleanser is the same process and they just, killing alcohol took, they took that opportunity, right? Rather than sending everybody home. They just changed the, the process. So there is, there is opportunity and as you said, I, I agree with you. I don't think it's necessarily, it's, it's simple but not easy because if you haven't. That support that you talked about, you know, that you, you were, you and I were fortunate in this Yes. In the, um, you know, the circumstances in which we were born in, but there have been plenty of people who have been born in those circumstances and who have, you know, not done anything with it.

Francois Lupien: 32:45

Just, just being people that were in dire circumstances who have done amazing with it. Yeah. And again, history repeats itself all the time. Yeah. So, so when you say what, what advice or thing, I don't know if it's an advice, but I would say whenever things are bad or whatev serve others and add value to others, stop thinking about yourself. Oh, but there's nothing I can do. Go, go help someone else. Forget about. And help and serve others by adding value. This equation will provide. all the time. Sometimes not monetary, but I call it psychic money. By psychic money, I mean, everything's bad, everybody's unhappy, and you go and serve and uplift someone and they give you a smile of gratitude. When you go to bed at night, you got a smile on your face and no one can take that away. And with that attitude, the next day, your emotional bank account is not in the negative. You've made some deposits in it, and from there you can go at it in the, in the. And if bad things happen, that makes withdrawals out of your emotional bank account because you constantly put deposits on it, you'll be able to sustain it. Otherwise you're gonna go down. Once again, I didn't learn this by myself. I had to ask, same with you. The lo, the audience that are listening right now, if you're stuck, that means you're not moving. By definition, if I'm stuck, I'm not moving. If you start moving a bit, you're not stuck anymore. And ask someone, ask for help. People are happy to help. They are. Think about it yourself. If someone asks you for your opinion on solving a problem, aren't you happy? You go, yeah, they value my opinion. Guess what? If you're stuck, go ask someone. They'll be happy to actually tell you. That's wonderful. So it's a win-win for everybody.

Steve Sandor: 34:30

So Francois, unfortunately, we are getting close to the top of the hour, and I do like to try and keep the podcast to, um, under 60 minutes if we can. If we can manage it, un you know, we, I'm sure we could continue the conversation for a lot longer. Um, so, uh, if the listeners interested in, uh, doing more with themselves, how were they getting contact?

Francois Lupien: 34:58

How to Become more.com, my website, how to Become more.com. Plenty of resources in there. Find out. You see, not everybody res resonates with everybody, but if you resonate with me, that's fine. One thing that is for sure, when you come into my world, everybody gets served. Not everybody gets sold, but everybody gets served. Meaning you come to me with something I can't help you with, I will point you in the direction of someone else that can. That's the way that I am. We have to help others and and that's the best way to me. That's why I like to connect with so many people. So when there's things I can solve, which are many, I can point them in the directions, but if something I can help, I.

Steve Sandor: 35:42

That's fantastic and we'll make sure all of your details are in the show notes. thank you so much. There's only one question that I have, uh, left and I ask that of all of my, uh, guests, and that is what are you curious about

Francois Lupien: 35:59

the power of your mind? Tapping into the infinite possibilities that are in, in people's minds is mind boggling to me. It's, it, I'm so curious about finding out how can we make this better? How can we tweak things, make it better all the time? Is is something that I'm so curious about. Always learning about I, I spend an hour or two every day learning how to perf perfect myself, get better, and then I share that with others and they get better as well. I say that when the tide rise, all the boats rise with it, regardless of how big or small the boats are. But I would say my curiosity about the power of the mind, and although I, I say that the day you think you know it all is the day you start to fall. I know a few things about the mind to help people with their. Feelings and actions and creating results. That stick. That's my curiosity. It's, it's, it's, yeah. All e encompassing.

Steve Sandor: 36:58

Wonderful. Wonderful. Thanks so much, and again, thanks Fran Lupien for being our guest on the Inspiring Business podcast.

Francois Lupien: 37:06

Steve, it was a pleasure and an honor to be here and hopefully you are able to make a difference and the lives of your audience. Thank you for this opportunity and everyone make it a great day.

Steve Sandor: 37:15

Well, that was a fantastic conversation. The energy and positivity that came from Francois is definitely infectious. There were some fantastic lessons in the conversation, and I think it's one of those episodes that you could save and listen to again and again, especially if you're feeling a little low. Francois reminded me again of the value of surrounding yourself with people who are moving forward rather than standing still or even moving backwards. Francois mentioned Bob Proctor going into a bar and announcing he was never coming back. I had a similar experience in PNG when I realized that the men sitting at the bar talking about the good old days were just stuck, and it wasn't who I wanted to be associated with. So the message is to surround yourself with good people. Don't be afraid to ask for help and approach life with How can I serve and add value, first attitude, and in return, you'll be rewarded. If you're an individual looking for peak performance, then please reach out to Francois. All his details are in the show notes. If you're a business owner who's wondering how to create an employer of choice environment where you and your employees love what you do and make more money with less effort, then go to my website at www.inspiringbusiness.net and book a complimentary exploration call where we can work together to find a a pathway forward for you. Whilst you're on the website, there are plenty of additional resources to help you with your business. If you've enjoyed this conversation, go ahead and subscribe and you'll never miss out on the weekly episodes if you really liked it. I'd appreciate a review on your favorite podcast platform as this helps spread the word. My name's Steve Sandor and there are plenty of additional resources, as I've said on our website at www.inspiringbusiness.net and please connect with me on LinkedIn or Facebook and the links to those are in the show notes. I'd love your feedback on the show and what you'd like to hear more of in the future. Again, thank you so much for listening to the Inspiring business podcast and my wish, as always is to inspire and energize you so you too can take action to make a difference in your and others' lives.