The Bukwas Crew
The Bukwas Crew are a Sasquatch podcast group who share opinions and interviews with those who have something to share with the Sasquatch Community. They are made up of four individuals. Research/Investigator: Gerry Matthews/ Researcher: Thomas Steenburg, Research and Investigator: Leon Thompson and their 'in house 'skeptic, Bill Reid! Please join us!
The Bukwas Crew
Ep: 195/ Are they putting Patty down?
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A discussion on what the Paterson/.Gimlin film means to people, and why!And how will people feel if the creature is debunked.
The Bukwas Crew is composed of four people: Gerry Matthews: Investigator/ Host & Owner/ Thomas Steenburg: Renowned Canadian researcher Bill Reid :Enthusiast/Skeptic/ Admin Leon Thompson: researcher: Bigfoot, Okanagan. Facebook Page: https://www.facebook.com/groups/197001072398072 Podcasts: https://www.buzzsprout.com/1728993 The Bukwas Crew: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaebaHwUJs_JkuWAcB3iTKA/
Hi, folks, Jerry Matthews here from the Bookboss Crew. Just want to touch on a few pointers that are pertinent with what's going on in the community these uh past few weeks. Now, in the past year or so, we've lost some icons that were our heroes. Not the least of these was possibly Patty. Did Patty exist? Did the Cowboys actually find a Sasquatch down in Bluff Creek? You know that for a lot of people, the Patterson Gimlin film isn't just evidence, it's emotionally loaded proof. So when someone becomes confronted with it as being a hoax, the reaction can feel surprisingly personal. I've seen a lot of that. It's almost like grief. Not because they lost a companion, but because they lost something meaningful that lived in their imagination and identity. You see, I think a few things is happening psychologically here. First, the film represents mystery and wonder. We can all agree with that. And people want there to be unexplained things in the world. The idea that a giant unknown primate can exist makes the world feel larger and more magical. But if the film gets mentally reclassified from possibly real to just a guy in a suit, that sense of wonder can collapse and quickly disappear overnight. Sasquatch also often has connection to people's childhood. You know, their stories are tied to campfires, documentaries, old TV specials, and family memories. Debunking the film can feel like learning. Santa Claus isn't real. Only wrapped in nostalgia, so to speak. You know, it's no secret that communities form around these beliefs. This is one right here. Entire friendships, podcasts, conventions, investigations, and online groups also revolve around the mystery. But when someone challenges their opinion, they can feel disconnected from the community that gave them a sense of belonging. People invest years emotionally and intellectually. So someone spends decades studying a frame analysis, eyewitness reports, track casts, and interviews, admitting that this may be a hoax can feel like mourning the loss of time, certainty, and purpose. Now ambiguity itself can be comforting. The person Gimlin footage survives partly because it sits in a gray zone. It never fully dies as a mystery. But once a person concludes it's fake, that ambiguity disappears. To them the mystery. Well, to them the mystery ends. Okay. Entire friendships, podcasts, conventions, investigations, and online groups also revolve around the mystery. But when someone challenges their mindset, they can feel disconnected from the community that gave them a sense of belonging. People invest years emotionally and intellectually. So if someone spends decades studying frame analysis, eyewitness reports, track casts, and interviews admitting this may be a hoax can feel like mourning the loss of time, certainty, and purpose. Now ambiguity itself can be comforting. The Patterson film footage survives partly because it sits in a gray zone. It never fully dies as a mystery. But once a person concludes it's fake, that ambiguity disappears. The ambiguity itself can be comforting. The Patterson-Gimlin footage survives partially because it sits in a gray zone. It never fully dies as a mystery, but once a person concludes it's fake, that ambiguity disappears. To them, the mystery ends. That emotional shift can cause an emptiness in the same way losing a pet leaves a quiet space in your life. Interestingly, this reaction isn't unique to Sasquatch. Similar emotions happen when a favorite athlete is exposed for cheating or a spiritual belief collapses. You see, the grief is less about the factual acclaim and more about losing a relationship with an idea. For some people, deeply invested in Sasquatch culture, especially in communities like our bookmas crew, concepts that explore belief, skepticism, and misinformation, this emotional dimension is probably one of the most important parts of the conversation. People rarely defend the film only because of the evidence. Often they also defend what the film means to them. If the Patterson-Gimlin film is debunked, will certain people experience a form of grief? Some people most certainly would experience a genuine form of grief if the Patterson-Gimlin film were conclusively debunked in a way that became widely accepted. Not clinical grief in the same category as losing a loved one, of course, but psychologically it can resemble the stages of grief. That emotional disorientation is very real. You also see this phenomenon in other areas. Sports fans after a doping scandal, followers of a disgraced public figure, you know. The mind doesn't separate emotion from evidence as neatly as people think. What makes the Patterson-Ginlin issue especially powerful is that the film occupies a cultural space halfway between evidence and mythology. It's more than footage. It's become a symbol. And symbols are emotionally resilient. Even if strong evidence against it emerged, many people would probably reinterpret the new evidence, move the goalpost, separate the film from Sasquatch itself, and hold on to uncertainty rather than accept total collapse. All of this is going on right now. It's been going on for weeks, so it comes as no surprise to you. That's one reason debates around the film stay so intense nearly 60 years later. People are not only debating anatomy gate or costume technology, they're defending meaning. And that is only human. Now, when this pending video debunking the PG film is released, I'm sure that the book laws crew will talk about their personal views on it. So look for this subject to be revisited at that time. Until then, be kind to each other, be understanding, and be patient. And if you get anything out of this, please subscribe, like, and share, and come visit us at the Bookboss Crew, either on Facebook or on YouTube. I'm sure you'll find something interesting there. Okay. God bless you.
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