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{BONUS} Coaching Client Spotlight: Kashica Webber-Ritchey, MHA, PhD, RN
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Transitioning from clinical nursing to impactful research is no small feat. In our latest episode, join Kemi as she explores Dr. Kashica Webber-Ritchey's journey from the bedside to academia.
Dr. Webber-Ritchey focuses on health promotion among underserved and at-risk populations, with a particular emphasis on healthy lifestyle behaviors such as physical activity and diet. She serves as the lead nursing scientist for notable projects, including Nursing During COVID-19 and Black Girls Move (2023–2025). Her collaborative research experience encompasses quantitative, qualitative, and systematic review methodologies, as well as expertise in the development, implementation, and evaluation of digital surveys. She is also is an alumnus of our Get That Grant® coaching program!
Join the conversation as Dr. Webber-Ritchey shares her transformative journey from clinical practice to research, focusing on addressing obesity disparities in Black youth and their families and how she navigated the challenges of academic life, overcame imposter syndrome, and learned to leverage her strengths through strategic mentorship and community support.
Highlights:
- Discover how strategic career coaching helped her navigate the challenges of academia, secure funding, and find her path.
- Learn how mentorship and a clear plan can transform your career.
- The unique skill set required for academic success and how Dr. Webber-Ritchey found clarity and confidence in her career path.
- The importance of planning, setting boundaries, and the powerful impact of community support.
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just to geek out for a second, y'all, this is like basic neuroscience. This is just science. Like we get tired. You can't make that many decisions all day, every day. It's literally called decision fatigue. You get tired after a while and you will stop making decisions. And when you're running your career with no overarching plan that is specific to your work, your research, what you're trying to do, the kind of funding you're trying to get when you're running your career and you don't have a plan that is specific enough to help you detail, what am I focusing on this week? When you don't have that, what you do every day is set yourself up for decision fatigue by 11 a.m. And then you wonder by by the end of the week, you don't even know if you did make progress or not. It's because it cannot work that way. So I think that like just on a really basic level, it's part of what we guide you through, you know, as a faculty member, as a person in a coaching program. But it's also I don't know if you feel this way. You let me know that the way that we teach it is actually designed to help you learn how to do it regardless. Hello, hello. You are listening to Your Unapologetic Career. Being a woman of color faculty in academic medicine who wants to make a real difference with your career can be tough. Listen, these systems are not built for us, but that doesn't mean we can't make them work for us. In each episode, I'll be taking a deep dive into one core growth strategy Thank you so much for joining us. Hello, everybody. Welcome back to the show. I'm so happy that you chose to listen to this episode because you already know that I am not alone. I have a lovely guest here, somebody who very recently finished our Get That Grant coaching program, and I'm really excited to speak with her today. And this is new for me, y'all, because this is the first time I am talking to a faculty member who went through the entire Get That Grant program without me at all. So like, no, I was not in the coaching calls. I was not really in the Facebook group, all of that stuff. So I'm so interested in how her experience was, and I think you might be too. So without further ado, welcome to the show, Kashika. How are you?
SPEAKER_02:Hello. Hi, everyone.
SPEAKER_03:Thank you for having me. Yes, I'm so excited to have you. So first of all, why don't you tell me and the rest of our community what your specialty is, what your background training is, and what good work you do in the world?
SPEAKER_02:So I'm a nurse, so nursing is my I am currently associate professor at DePaul University School of Nursing, and my research is aimed at and contributions to this field is focused on health promotion. That's the big part in addressing health disparities with a specific interest in addressing obesity disparities in Black youth and their families.
SPEAKER_03:Yes, let's do it. Okay, I have a question already. So how did you go from doing nursing to deciding that you wanted to pursue a research degree and do research in this area because nursing is so broad in and of itself in the clinical delivery.
SPEAKER_02:Yes that's one of the reasons why I chose nurses so many specialties that you could get into so yeah I did administration and clinical practice so areas and there was med surge I did intensive care unit and for a lot of my career I did ambulatory outpatient surgery so I worked with pre-op, post-op patients. And I also did some OR surgeries that I would be the OR nurse as well. So
SPEAKER_03:everything is, I want y'all to hear that basically what she just said was everything. I did it all. Okay. And so tell me about the transition to research. Yes.
SPEAKER_02:So I actually did not know that I, like early on that I would like end up in research. I have to just tell you that. So I knew that that I would want to get a doctorate degree and I was deciding, I was deciding. When I was in my bachelor's program for nursing, I had some faculty that really just was touching to me. And I was like, one day, I see myself, you know, doing this. And so I did, as I said, did not know that I would pursue a PhD, but I ended up, I was decided between doing a DP or a PhD and I ended up doing a PhD program. And it kind of landed from there. My very first, it stemmed from how I want to address childhood obesity was just back in my med-surg years and that. Yes. And a lot of disparities in my community. And I just wanted to give back. And it was an area that always held us by baby throughout. And I was like, okay, this is what I want to do. So that's how I ended up in research. So, and that's how my focus was in addressing childhood obesity.
SPEAKER_03:I love that so much because first of all, I feel the same. I People ask me all the time. They're like, did you always know that this is what you were going to do? I'm like, no, boo. I did not. If you go back and read like my, even like my essay for medical school or whatever, it does not say nothing about nobody's research. I resonate with that. Like the experiences lead you to say, you know, this obesity issue is a problem, especially among children. You're seeing it in your med surge units. And I do, I think that when you're on the clinical side and I would, I would even overemphasize surgery, but maybe that's not fair just because I'm a surgeon. Like you really see the difference obesity can make and people's safety in the procedures and all of the things. Right. And so I can see the, like, as a nurse in that environment too, being like, we have to try to do something about this. And so I had a really similar experience of saying, well, what can I do about this? And, you know, what are the different avenues and then making a fairly deliberate choice? Like, I think I'm producing knowledge and then being able to use tools and change things is going to be my path. So I really resonate with that. And I'm just, I'm a researcher. So I'm at heart, I'm very happy that you decided to do the PhD. No shade to the MPs listening on call, but I am excited that you went that way. Okay. So you had in your mind, you had these wonderful role models, right? You said, you noticed like, wait a minute, they're kind of cool. Like what they do is kind of interesting. So it's in the back of your mind. And so you enter into, you get the PhD, congrats. Congratulations. You enter into the world of research. And I want you to tell us a little bit about like, where were you in your career when you started to consider coaching and what was not working for you in this nurse researcher life? Because you were clear what you wanted to do, which is if you came in, like, I want to help the baby. I need to help the kids. So tell us what was
SPEAKER_02:off. What was off is that I knew I wanted to do this work and I'm like trying to establish collaborations and just I was kind of working in a silo. I have to be honest in my institution, like, you know, trying to link up with the right people so I could do this work because you need support in that to be able to get funding and all of those things. So I was lost with knowing how to successfully go through the steps that would help me get external funding. And so when I say I was lost, I was just trying to figure out and maneuver, like, what can I do to, you know, achieve my career goals? and not be exhausted, to be honest.
SPEAKER_01:Yes,
SPEAKER_02:I was totally exhausted, you know, saying yes to things because I'm in academia. I needed publications and I didn't have external funding. So I was saying yes to a lot of things, but now I know that the focus needs to be on my career goals. Oh, okay. We're going to
SPEAKER_03:get there. But wait, tell me if I'm wrong. And now it's okay. You can flat out tell me no, Kemi, you're wrong. But I thought when you came in, you were already on... I want to say diversity supplement. You had already secured. Okay, so for the people listening. Okay, I want to just wait. Can we give you your flowers? Because you're talking about, I didn't know how to get my external funding. I didn't know what to do. So you had already applied for and secured a diversity supplement. For people who don't know, that is an external grant award. You have to apply for it. It's an application like any other NIH grant. It goes through a peer review. You get scored and or maybe you get funded. And you you had already done that successfully. So first I'm going to give you your flowers. Then second, I'm going to say, especially in light of that, because I think Kashika, sometimes people feel like if they've already been able to do something like that, like I got my diversity supplement funded, or maybe even they got their career development award funded, they had some success. When they hit a challenge point, they feel like it shouldn't be this hard. Like there must be something wrong with me. It must be, I can't figure this out. What's wrong with me? Because I've been successful already. And so I'm highlighting this because career coaching isn't just about like, I just showed up and I have no idea what to do. In fact, to be frank, those aren't the people in our program. Career coaching is not, I don't know what to do. I'm lost. Help me. It is. I have a lot of solid ingredients. Like I got a catch. I got a lot of skills. I got clarity, but something is not balancing out. And I think what I hear you saying is you did have initial success, but it was starting to feel like this is not sustainable in terms of being overwhelmed. And then also like, if I've already achieved this level of success and I'm trying to up-level, tell me if I'm wrong about this. You're like, okay, now I'm trying to level up. How is it possible? Can I level up when I'm already overwhelmed at the level I'm at? Is that right?
SPEAKER_02:Yes. And connecting to the, so I do like to mention, yes, thank you for pointing out that I did get the supplement grant. I had a wonderful mentor that helped me do that. I met at the right time. Wish I had met this person earlier, but no, that linked up and that was how I got a chance to apply for the supplement grant. And yeah, so connection, connection, but this was outside of my institution. As I was mentioning, like meeting that connection within the institution, know how it can support my career goals. So that was what I was like struggling with.
SPEAKER_03:Gotcha. So your diversity supplement was funded outside the institution, but funded So you had that. And then you're like, OK, now I'm trying to move forward where I am. Yes. It is seeming hard to get started, despite the fact that I'm quite busy saying yes and doing a lot of things. But somehow the path is not illuminated. OK, so that makes sense to me. So can you tell us about a moment and get that grant where something shifted for you when the clarity started to come through? And what was that like? What did you figure out?
SPEAKER_02:Gotcha. So I had two moments. in the Get That Grant program. It was through our phase two and through our phase three. And I made the little point. So through our phase two, I was like, I adapted to my imposter syndrome. You know how you're like, am I really this great? Is my idea innovative? I know I want to do this, but what are the tools and support I need to be successful as I maneuver alone in becoming an independent researcher? And so one of the exercises I thought was so helpful was like doing cold calling just like trying to figure out who is your support within the institution just reaching out to them to have a little chat on the side and I did do that I found that very helpful it's not something that I would have done because I know that I'm shy but it's like sometimes I do reach out you like you don't hear you say back so that makes you feel like um you know so uh no that uh really helped I was able to talk and that geared into how I'm planning for it so I feel good about that another out there. Wait,
SPEAKER_03:pause. So what you're talking about, I'm pretty sure is the mentor optimization piece where before you're taking action. So those of you listening, don't start cold calling people talking about Dr. Dole's told me. So before you even get there, you do a pretty extensive audit of your network to start with of not just people named mentors, but really it's a power analysis, right? Who are all the people in your sphere who has power over you, who doesn't, all these kinds of things. And we start to identify what do you have covered and what is uncovered, what is missing. And I think what you're saying is then from that recognizing, okay, these are the areas that are missing. Then you started the next step, which is what is going to be your next step to close those gaps, reaching out to people where you are. And then the other piece of that is also kind of the local community piece where there's an exercise where we have you do that too. So I just wanted to situate people. So can I ask you a question? What was surprising to you about any one of those conversations that came from an introvert doing a cold outreach?
SPEAKER_02:Well, I kind of share like what I was doing and what I wanted to do next. And, you know, just to kind of feel out like, you know, kind of like, is this person on the same, you know, same path? So yeah, it was very helpful. And I was like, oh, wow, I could have did this earlier if I would have just, and it was like a quick, like grab a coffee or tea together. Yeah. And so, yeah, it was great. That was great. And then one was just like a Zoom call, like, yeah, saying that, you know, connecting that way. And so it was great.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. And it sounds like you also came clear about what you had to say. Yes. You know, which
SPEAKER_02:is what I was going to say. Yeah. I had a direction versus me going into meeting with somebody like,
SPEAKER_01:I don't
SPEAKER_02:know what I'm supposed to say. I mean, honestly. Yeah. So we just talk about the weather. Yeah. I had I had some direction on how I want to guide the conversation. And so that was very helpful. So I was like phase two, that was like, okay, but I don't want to miss out or point it out how phase three, I was, I was totally shook because, and I don't want to, I don't want to be shook that people are shook. Gotcha. And I don't want to give too much away, but in phase three, just realizing like, what's the different roles that you need to play. You need to play. You may be good in one area, But you got to work on the other two areas because they all go together for you to be successful. And so, as I said, I was working in mode like, yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. I'm a worker bee. I'll get the job done. I know that. But it was other things of like being more direct and knowing what I wanted to do. I had to work on those skills and figuring out a plan, like really planning it out. And so that's why I was like phase three was like, well, okay, this is what I need to do to be more successful.
SPEAKER_03:I love it. It is. it's okay to talk about the CEO scientist and worker bee. Oh, okay, gotcha. I talk about those all of it. Yeah, that's what she's talking about, y'all. She's talking about her CEO scientist and worker bee and getting them in line. And, you know, if people listen to the podcast, they know I talk about this a lot. What you're referring to is how we put it into action in the coaching program. And phase three, people be shooketh because they're like, oh, I have to. And we're like, yes, you have to. Let's get going, ma'am. Let's stand up. Let's lead ourselves. Let's move forward. And I think the most beautiful thing about it, though, is all we are doing is taking all of that beautiful potential that you bring in, your ideas, the enthusiasm, honestly, your intelligence, right? Your thoughtfulness, the connections and networking you did in the previous phase two, the work to get your work habits in line. It's like, once all that is set up, I really love phase three too, because phase three is like, okay, you now really are ready to go. We have gone through all the building blocks. And so when you start doing the grant work, like, okay, it Let's make a plan. Let's find some mechanisms. We are putting the, you realize I can do this. Like all of a sudden, something that feels like this impossible mountain to climb feels each individual step actually feels like quite tangible. Is that what your experience was? You're like, okay, well, this is just the next thing I need to do. Like, this is
SPEAKER_02:no big deal. You just have to, you know, plan it out and know what, and stay focused on it. And I was like, yeah. And as I said, I want to give way too much, like even just, you know, Knowing how to do my calendar, the set time. So that's a huge thing. I didn't know that. I wasn't doing that. Who told you? I wasn't doing that. So that's why I was saying with so many moments, like I was like, whoa, okay. Well, that makes sense. This is how I'm going to be able to do these things. Like planning the time and doing it. This is my time to work on these things. So yeah, that
SPEAKER_03:was. I love that you say that because the thing is you're somebody who came in with an incredible amount of, we haven't even talked about your life experience, but just sticking to your professional nursing career right you are somebody who came in with an incredible amount of nursing experience as you started us at the top in terms of like different working in different arenas different departments inpatient outpatient and what I think what is can be hard for people to realize is that there is an odd and unique skill set of navigating an academic faculty position it is like it can be so humbling because you're like I'm very good like you're like I'm an efficient person you know you probably think of yourself as I'm a counselor Like you were an excellent nurse. People can rely on me. I'm a hard worker, all these things. And then you get into academic faculty and you have your appointment and you're like, how is it possible that all of these things that got me this far and that have me be successful in these different arenas aren't moving me forward? Like they'll keep you busy as a faculty member. You stay busy, but you don't move forward. And I think that, you're just busy. Yeah, they're
SPEAKER_02:like,
SPEAKER_03:don't worry, we keep you busy. some people spend their whole careers Kashika just being busy so I was I'm just so happy you came to us so early because you didn't let prior success dictate I'm never going to ask for help or I'm never going to reach out and be like this has to be better but I think what you're describing is like oh learning the skill set of navigating this place navigating my value I mean a lot of what we talk about too is how much we have to take responsibility for the things we do well like if you know you're good at this and you know you want to do this how come you don't protect this skill you have how come you don't protect this time how come you don't treat it like it needs to be you the only person who can do this section but it's at the end of the day or after somebody goes to bed or whatever whatever so I think that I love that you're highlighting it and I just I don't think it's a small thing at all and it's it's not a necessarily an easy thing to figure out from all the tools you bring before because you bring all those tools and you just they just have you on a hamster wheel just going so yeah that's really exciting imagine I guess my question for you is we've talked some about kind of like what you've learned right you're like okay i learned how to do outreach that made sense instead of kind of wasting my time in meetings side note y'all i can't tell you people reach out for a meeting with me my calendar is insane most of the time the answer is no because she gets every once in a while somebody will get through i will have a meeting and they will spend 45 of the meeting talking about the weather and i'm like do you about see the thing is i'll sit here and talk about the weather because i don't need anything from me what are you here yeah it's like we've got to know to be able to be clear about oh this is where I am this is where I'm trying to go this is where you can fill the gap like that's like an important skill to have and it's very difficult to get help from people that you need help from if you aren't organized in that way if that makes sense anyway that wasn't exactly right like because people don't know how to help you I'll tell you as a busy person I'm like boo I don't know how to help you I think you're a wonderful person but all I've heard is jumble a here, this, that, this. Like, what does that mean? I don't know what any of this means. Anyway, so now I lost my train of thought, so it doesn't matter. Oh, you were talking about what you learned, right? Learning the skills that are in phase three. Phase three, y'all, is rich. Kashika is nodding right now. Like, phase three, don't let up. Every lesson, you're like, oh, this is a whole, oh, oh.
SPEAKER_02:Wait,
SPEAKER_03:let me catch up. Anyway, that's our grant getting strategies phase. So you learned a lot didactically. I would love for you to share with us what changed about how you felt in your career because we talked about a lot about what you learned what changed about how you felt
SPEAKER_02:I believe I became more confident so just working how I said I would say yes to things I've been working on my nose this academic year so I'm getting back because I didn't that wasn't in my wasn't in my train of thought to say no to certain people but like now I like if I have something that's you know that I'm doing it's like yeah you you can't take on you know something else when when you like you're already taxed. So learning how to say no and become more confident.
SPEAKER_03:Yeah. Well, I told it's a lot easier to say no when you're no represents such a tangible yes to your plan. Yeah. You know, so one of the things and get that grant is you make, you make such clear plans for your future and what you're going to do, right? Like you leave with basically a one-year plan. So when you have a plan like that, it's a lot easier if somebody's like, oh, can you do this? You're like, oh, no, I'm sorry. I'm booked for 11 months. I got a plan. And I think that can take away some of the difficulty of the no, especially when you're in your earlier career, because it can feel a lot like I got to say yes. I got to say yes. You know, it can feel that way. But when you can actually see and be like, oh, no, because you don't understand in April, I'm going to be here. And by October, I need this in place. I'm going to be applying for this in this month. And then you can really look at it and be like, it actually makes no sense for me to come do that talk. I'm going to be in grand writing. No, I'll see you after, you know, in the fall. Circle back. So for me, it's like a more tangible way to support people's confidence, right? Because I do think that there's the part of the believing in yourself, the part that comes with from within. And, you know, I just don't, Kishika, we just don't get where we are without that. I know it's important, but I'm like, well, you don't get a PhD as a Black woman in a science area without some belief in yourself. You just not going to make it. So the question is more, how do we put structures in place that support the strength of that belief through environments that are really not organized to have you stay in touch with it? That's how I think of it. And I think that's some of what you're sharing with us today. I love it. So how do you feel about your plan?
SPEAKER_02:I feel good about it because I have some things like lined up, like my next steps and that. So that was what I was going to say. So not only how I feel less overwhelmed because I do have a plan in place.
SPEAKER_03:Oh, say more about that. Tell us more. Because some people think a plan is stressful. So tell us why you feel less overwhelmed with a plan. So yes,
SPEAKER_02:developing a plan is like, I have to really think this out. But believe it or not, with me doing the plan, I'm able to figure out what steps I got to do now, what I got to do next, what I got to do next. Like some tangible steps to get to where I need to be at, if that makes sense to you. It does. I was able to do that. And that's something like I have, I'm a plant. I'm not going to say I'm not a planner, but I didn't know how to, how to attack it.
SPEAKER_03:It does because a lot of the, I mean, the advice you'll get is like, go apply for grants. Like, okay. That's a lot, right. Or like take advantage of good opportunities. Like the level of where the faculty advice is, is so broad that it includes things that are good for you and things that are not. And when you have a lot of energy towards something and you're new to the environment or you're used to doing it a very, very specific, certain way, it's also easy to think everything fits. Well, I guess everything. And so part of it is the discernment. I think you learn by creating a lot more specificity about what it is you're going to do. Like, okay, childhood obesity, sure. But let's get way more specific. The how, the this, the that, the that. And when you have that, it just helps you make better decisions. I think. And I also think the other reason why, you know, having a plan actually decreases stress and overwhelm is because you don't have to make decisions every single day now.
SPEAKER_02:Exactly. And you're already busy and so you're making these decisions. You have a plan and you feel confident that you like, I have this in place. Right. You don't have to wake up Monday and be like, what am I going to do this? What am I going to do? Right. I'm showing these little pieces to me.
SPEAKER_03:Exactly. Exactly. That's exactly right. We're trying to prevent you feeling like Friday at three o'clock that nothing has happened. There's no hope. And then you try to start something then, which is always a very bad idea. And you just go into the weekend dejected. Yes. And it's a terrible feeling or worse. You pretend you're going to work that weekend. You're not. You need to rest. Your brain needs to catch up. Your sleep needs to catch up. So yeah, I mean that taking away those like, I just like just to geek out for a second. Y'all, this is like basic neuroscience. This is just science. Like we get tired. You can't make that many decisions all day, every day. It's literally called decision fatigue. You get tired after a while and you will stop making decisions. And when you're running your career with no overarching plan that is specific to your work, your research, what you're trying to do, the kind of funding you're trying to get when you're running your career and you don't have a plan that is specific enough to help you deal with it. what am I focusing on this week? When you don't have that, what you do every day is set yourself up for decision fatigue by 11 a.m. And then you wonder by the end of the week, you don't even know if you did make progress or not. It's because it cannot work that way. So I think that like just on a really basic level, it's part of what we guide you through, you know, as a faculty member, as a person in a coaching program. But it's also, I don't know if you feel this way. You let me know. The way that we teach it is actually designed to help you learn how to do it regardless. So now it's like, okay, now that we've walked through this version of this, you can actually go do this now again. You can do it anytime you want in six months, in two years. Now you know how to do it. You never have to be caught flat footed and tired and unable to make decisions because you don't know how to like step back and plan for the longterm to give yourself more daily energy for whatever's right in front of you. Was that your experience? I agree. That's why I
SPEAKER_02:was saying the The plan, the plan, I feel less overwhelmed because I have a plan. So yeah, that is definitely, yes.
SPEAKER_03:Okay. So Kashika, what advice would you give a Black woman like you who just signed up for Get That Grant? Maybe she's also a nurse researcher, baddie. And she wants, maybe she's also an introvert too. And she wants to get the most out of it. What would you tell her? She's like, I just signed up. The first email hit my inbox. what would you tell her to help her get the most out of the program? I would say trust
SPEAKER_02:the process. It may be like, oh, I've got to do my workbooks and that, but it's steps. The workbooks. Yeah, the workbooks. Trust the process and you just get so much out of what you're putting into it because you feel more, as I say, you come up with this plan and you feel like you're able to do it. So not only if you like applying for the grant during the program, you can do it again once you go for another grant or if you do You have the tools in place. And also I'd like to plug you surrounded by a community that's cheering for you. And that gives you confidence. Yeah. So I say, trust me and go ahead and do it.
SPEAKER_03:I love it. Thank you for adding it because we haven't touched on community at all, but it's so true. It's like now everybody's in it. Like girl, what's your plan look like? If you're a color coded girl, we got you. Yeah. I love that. Thank you. This has been so lovely spending some time with you and hearing about your journey. Thank you so much for agreeing to share and yeah best of luck I'm excited to see what comes out of your plans
SPEAKER_02:yes I will keep keep you updated and yeah I'm thankful and I'm just I learned so much and I wish I would learn about get that grant sooner and I do have to plug my wonderful mentor that told me about it because I didn't know about the program okay shout out to the mentor so now I can share this program I was gonna say that just pass it forward just pass
SPEAKER_03:it forward I have been doing this since 2019 So it's so odd. Like you see me, I mean, I'm out there. I've been talking and talking and talking. So I always have to remind myself, there are a lot of people who still literally have never heard of this. They don't even know we're out here. They don't know we're out here for women of color. They don't know we're out. Like there is a faculty coaching program ready for you specifically. So I appreciate that spreading the word. And yeah, it just, it makes me happy as we continue to reach more and more people and really just set people's careers up so you can go do the work because I also want you. to fix childhood obesity. So please, I want that for me. I want that for the planet. All right, girl, take
SPEAKER_02:care. I hope you have a wonderful rest of your day. Okay. Thank you. And thanks for having me. All right. Bye. All right. Bye-bye.
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