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This week, we're shaking things up! In this episode, Kemi invites you to join her for a refreshing break from the usual career-focused content. Embracing the concept of "recess," she encourages you to explore the importance of fun and leisure in your busy lives.  

Join in as Kemi shares a variety of personal recommendations, from insightful podcasts to engaging TV shows and exciting books, all aimed at helping you cultivate joy outside of work. 

So, grab a cup of your favorite beverage, sit back, and let’s dive into this delightful recess of recommendations that will inspire you to carve out time for yourself. 

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One of the messages that I share a lot in the newsletter and also here is like how much, you know, we have to have balance. We have to have this space. I talk a lot about, you need boundaries, right? So you're not tired. You need to know when to stop working so you can work more efficiently, but then like, what are you doing with that extra time and space? And, you know, I am a parent. So I, a lot of what I'm doing is caretaking for my children, spending time with them, enjoying time with them. And also just like parenting, doing the work of that, you know, I have a spouse. So some of the time I'm spending in And so on this podcast, I am doing recess recommendations. Hello, hello. You are listening to your unapologetic career. Being a woman of color faculty in academic medicine who wants to make a real difference with your career can be tough. Listen, these systems are not built for us, but that doesn't mean we can't make them work for us. In each episode, I'll be taking a deep dive into one core growth strategy so you can gain confidence and effectiveness I'll see you next time. back to the show. It's your host, Kami Dole, obviously. Very happy to have you all back. We're going to do a different kind of episode this week because I actually, I've been thinking like all morning about what the episode was going to be that I was going to record today because I knew today was a recording day. And I felt like I was really pulling at straws in terms of like career focused content in a way that didn't make me feel good. Like in a way that I knew I could be like, well, I guess I'll just talk about productivity again, or I'll talk about boundaries again, or I'll talk about non-federal funding sources again or whatever, but it just didn't feel authentic. You know, I was like, I don't want to be like just a repeat record kind of thing. And it's true. Like when I give y'all those like ABC one, two, three, here's the structure, here's the concept. Like those are of course our most popular episodes. I was going back and looking in like the three P's of your career, purpose, pace, and peace, like top episodes, the career dynamics series, the fall series about, you know, unstable political times followed by the winter slash spring series of federal funding crises. Like I get it, I get it. But also I was thinking to myself how in so many areas of my life, I'm trying to, and I am, you know, cultivating what I do more of more as like a garden and a variety as opposed to like one thing or the most valuable or whatever. My nature is to be a maximizer, to be like, okay, we can do this, but then we can do it to a million, to a hundredth, whatever. which is great in some capacity, but it also can mean that all you have are just like huge, big projects at the top of your game, et cetera. And actually what you need is a lot of, you need variety, right? So like a garden can have like one beautiful kind of marquee bush, but then it's actually healthy when it has like little wildflowers over here and little things over there. That's the end of that metaphor. I know nothing about gardening and flowers. That's the end of that one. But the point is that like, I've really thought about that cultivation. And interestingly enough, you can really see it like looking into the last, I would say three years or so of my research program where it really shifted from like this big thing, this big thing, that big thing to like still big things. We still doing big things because we're trying to have big impact, but like we're cultivating smaller, interesting, narrower, out of the box studies as well that can kind of that bridge off. And I've really, I realized how much I love that and also how much as a PI and as a leader of a research center, I enjoy the shift, right? Like I enjoy one day talking about the big flagship study and then another day thinking about the details of how to disseminate a smaller two-year project, right? And then I'm talking about, oh, well, how could a trainee make an interesting, you know, pilot grant idea out of this? Like I just, I enjoy that, right? And so I've I thought about that this morning as I was thinking like, okay, what am I going to tell them? Like giving value on the podcast. You guys know this, right? I feel so strongly about like, I want to give you value. I want to share what I can. There's a lot of intentional kind of structured teaching and coaching and stuff that I do behind like in my Katie coaching community, like for our faculty clients and stuff. But I feel so strongly that I want to be able to share more openly and just share like just, I have a lot to share. So just like share and teach and give valuable information like this on this platform to everybody. Cause I know a lot of people either cannot or will not ever join our programs. And so there's obviously going to be an entire other level of strategic support execution and frankly, like tools and strategies within our community, but outside, I think there are still just broader concepts that are helpful. And that's why you hear me sharing a lot on this podcast. So much of what I talk about are these broader concepts. How do we think about boundaries in a way that honors how we perceive the value of our own work. How do we think about phases of our career instead of early, mid, late to career purpose, pace, and peace? And if you think about it that way, how does that change how you make decisions? So you all on the podcast really get these kind of bigger ideas for the goal of prompting you to think about your career differently. And then every once in a while, the world goes to hell and I'm like, okay, let me give some real structured support step one, two, and three. All that to say is that I love that and I'll never stop doing that. And I also want to garden. I want to garden of this podcast. And you've gotten some of that in the client spotlights, although that's still very much focuses on career and those episodes have a certain point. You've also started to see, I think you've started to see some of the shift in some of the kind of conversations that I have with the guests. Because as you have noticed, outside of the client spotlights, like the guests are very The topics are planned and very well thought out. And it's always something where I'm like, I want to talk about this, but I don't want to just hear myself talk about this. And so our episode with Dr. Charlene Abobi was very popular, you know, very powerful. I mean, some of the messages and the notes that we got back after talking about that topic of kind of disturbing relationship patterns among high achieving women, some of them we couldn't even publish. I I think I thought just would be too triggering for people honestly to hear, but we did share a lot of the notes we got back and that's purposeful as well. I had a wonderful conversation. I've had conversations about motherhood, just, you know, trying to be very deliberate about some of those conversations. All that to say is that's another piece of the garden, right? Like let's be in conversation about something that might not be specific to career, but is like around that or very much alive for that for those of us in these faculty jobs roles. And so, It's different, but it still is very intentional, thoughtful, etc. So I'm like, you know what, Kemi, you also need some just random wildflowers. You just need some fun. You need some lightness. And so that is what I'm bringing you today. Did y'all like that long preamble? All of that to say, on this podcast, I am doing recess recommendations. Where does this title come from? And am I going to keep it? I don't know. But for today, I was thinking about how in school for the kids, they never No, like you can't just teach the kids all day. You can't just be like eight o'clock. We're doing math. Nine o'clock. We're doing reading. Ten o'clock. We're doing this. Like it just never. And we're going to go like, you know, they know they have to give them breaks and they know they have to go like just do other stuff and they need to actually play. They need to enjoy themselves. They need to laugh. They need to joke. They need to do all of that stuff. They need to have breaks in order for the day to be functional. And, you know, when you're a kid, they call breaks recess. So I was thinking this is recess. This is podcast recess. where we're going to have fun. We're going to take breaks. And one of the messages that I share a lot in the newsletter, shout out, if you're not subscribed to the newsletter, make sure you're subscribed because if you did not know, I have been doing new issues every month this year. One of the things, you know, I talk about in that newsletter and also here is like how much, you know, we have to have balance. We have to have this space. I talk a lot about, you need boundaries, right? So you're not tired. You need to know when to stop working so you can work more efficiently. But then like, what are you doing with that extra time and space? And, you know, I am a parent, so a lot of what I'm doing is caretaking for my children, spending time with them, enjoying time with them, and also just like parenting, doing the work of that. I have a spouse, so some of the time I'm spending in conversation with this wonderful life partner that I still like and love very much. But also there is the part of just like, what are you doing with yourself? How are you just enjoying yourself, having fun? And it is very sad to me how often I think... we get into modes where that almost is completely non-existent. I'm like, so what do you just do for you? What's just like, okay, I'm just having time. I'm just chilling. What am I doing? And people will be like, I don't know what you're talking about. Maybe it's like, do you mean like the 45 minutes when I'm in bed and everybody's asleep and I am scrolling TikTok? And I'm like, I mean, I guess if that's all we got. So the recess recommendations is like, well, first of all, I want y'all to know, like, I don't just do this all day. I work a lot. I have, you know, basically three jobs right now, which works for me. That's a choice and I like it. I do spend a lot of time with my kids. I do invest in my relationship with my partner, but I also, I love my alone time because I like to like do things that are fun to me. And I thought it would be fun to share with you all some of those things that I do and some of the things I enjoy because one, you might find that you enjoy them too. Number two, to be very transparent, it helps me remember and also hopefully helps you see like I am a full person. Like I don't just think strategy, you know, endometrial cancer disparities, research, you know, I, there's like all this other things, book, et cetera. There's like also just these other things that like, and I just enjoy as a person. So that helps me feel like I'm showing up to you as a full person. Also, because I feel like if I start like sharing like random recommendations and stuff with y'all, maybe y'all will kind of notice some of the stuff I like and start sharing more recommendations back with me. And I'll just find more things that I love. So you see how like maybe this can be, this can end up being like a beautiful symbiosis. So I said before that that was the end of the preamble, but this is probably the end of the preamble. Let's do our recess, podcast recess recommendations. I think the future versions of these episodes will probably be shorter because I will not go through this whole explanation, but we'll see. I thought to myself, like, let's do like a few different categories of things. And then immediately because of how I am, I was like, okay, so we'll have a structure. So every time we do a podcast recess, we'll do one of these one. And I said, can we stop? This is what you do. Every time I have an idea, like immediately the second step in my brain is structure, structure. Okay. Fun. No structure, wild, freewheeling, crazy. Let's just go. Okay. So what's my first recommendation? All right. So I like many millions of other people in this country and around the world saw the incredible masterpiece of the movie centers. When it came out, it It was so intentional for me to see this movie because I don't go to the movies. I don't go to the movies because of all the things I just told y'all before. I got three jobs. I got kids. I got a spouse. My spouse works full time. Like who is going to the movies? It takes so much time to go to the movies. Like what? Also shout out to those of the rest of you all that are like, you know, early forties, mid forties, like me, like aging and stuff. I feel like the older you get, the more you're like, is there anything even out that's interesting? Like, and I haven't figured out, is it the movies that have changed or is it me or both? I'm not sure. There was a time where like any given weekend, there would be like at least one thing that I thought would be interesting to see. And now I feel like over the course of a year, there might be two movies that I'm like, oh, I really want to go see that. Anyway. So all that to say is to go see Sinners when it came out in the theaters was like such a deliberate choice from a logistical standpoint. It's a what in my area, it's like$25 an hour. You know, we need a time where both me and my spouse, neither one of us are working on call, anything like that. You know, everybody is off. There's just like so many things that has to line up. Also, nobody's traveling. Nobody's out of town. Like, anyway, this is like, it has to just be so deliberate. And then number two is that it's very deliberate to me because it's like, what am I going to take all this energy to do? I'm going to take all this energy, of course, to see a Ryan Coogler project, like an effing genius of a film Somebody who won Sundance in his mid-20s with his first submission. You know what I mean? I mean, the creative powerhouse behind the Black Panther movies. Of course, I am going to see a new Ryan Coogler film, which is a lot to say because I don't do horror. I don't do scary movies. I am very sensitive to violent imagery in movies. I am very sensitive. I have absolutely no interest in horror at all. And I'm very sensitive to violence because those images stay with me. Like I just get way too far in. Like I do not experience a separation between me and what's going on on screen. So like, there's just, I don't do any of that kind of stuff. And so to choose to go knowing that the movie has some supernatural elements, some horror elements was like very deliberate because I'm like, but it's also Ryan Coogler and he doesn't make anything that is uninteresting that there's always multiple layers to peel back and I enjoy that intellectual experience so much and the beauty of how he, I mean, anyway, so Sinners is not even my recommendation, but that's to say is I saw Sinners. And so after I saw Sinners, one of the things I like to do is just like consume as much media as I can about the things. I'm like, I'm enjoying it more and more. And anybody who's ever heard Ryan Coogler, like in an interview or anything, it just, it deepens your appreciation of him for like multiple reasons. I'll just leave that there. So all I have to say is that listening to a lot of stuff. But I realized this week, I came across a podcast that I missed the first time because it took me a while to see the movie. So I was like, I was skipping episodes of things I usually listen to and stuff because I didn't want to be spoiled. But among the many conversations about this movie that exists that I enjoyed, what I'm recommending to you in podcast recess is Jenny Yang has a new podcast. She's an Asian American comedian, podcast host, among other things, actress. Her podcast is called What Should We Talk About? And one of the earlier episodes, I think it came out April 28th, is focused on sinners. And I loved this conversation because it's Jenny Yang and a few other people representing both Black and Asian perspectives. And like one of the really cool things about sinners is the deliberate inclusion of a Chinese family in the Mississippi Delta and like so much interesting layered history and commentary and things about that relationship of them then. And that I think is really interesting about thinking about the Black-Asian relationship now. And this podcast, I mean, this conversation was so good. And it was, I mean, it's funny, you know, it's light, it's interesting. They're talking about the movie, but it was just so well done. And there were just like multiple times during this podcast episode where I like paused and was like, ooh, oh, and like would rewind to listen again because I just liked the turn of phrase that were used, or I learned something myself about the Asian-American experience, or I thought about, I got to like relive something some parts of the movie in a way that I loved. So anyway, podcast recommendation, What Should We Talk About by Jenny Yang seems to be a great podcast. And then number two, the specific episode on sinners that came out April 28th is really good. One of the things, concepts they mentioned kind of towards the end is like how like to be Asian is to be conditionally black or conditionally white, depending on the circumstance and what is most convenient to white supremacy in that moment or in that community or in that time. And it was just, and then they talk about that concept more. And it was like, it was fascinating. Anyway, that's my recommendation. Jenny Yang's podcast. All right. In the category, the next category of shows. Okay. I, for all the reasons mentioned before, I don't watch that much TV. What happens is like, I'm pretty much not watching anything. I'm not watching any TV. And then like something, for some reason, I get some recommendation or something passes my thing. And I'm like, oh, this is interesting. And then I just like inhale it quickly, you know? So it's not binging because I don't have six hours to sit around and binge. Like it's not like that, but it'll be like that 45 minutes before bed and not scrolling my phone. I ended up being like watching an episode like each night or something for like two weeks in a row and knocking it out, like something like that. So that ends up how I watch TV. I feel like overall, I watch more TV than I will catch a movie because of the convenience, but still overall, I don't really feel like I watch that much TV at all. If you want to say Like what's the one thing that I spend most of my time doing would be reading books. But one show that I recently, like as in literally last night, I finished the most recent season that's been on my mind is Couples Therapy, which is on Showtime, but available via subscription, I think through Prime TV. Couples Therapy, Orna is the name of the therapist. It's so crazy because the premise just seems so insane and voyeuristic. Like, It's basically like you are in the session in the room with couples doing couples therapy with Orna. Maybe there probably still is totally an element of voyeurism, like for sure. It is not reality TV in the way that one might think of it for anybody who is like, what are you talking about? I don't, I really can't stand reality TV, but I think it's just because the production is really good. I think there's a lot of thought about how to kind of craft the stories. And then one thing I really love about it is that they spend time with the therapist Orna. with her, with her mentor. So she has a clinical mentor that helps her figure out like how to move when she gets lost or is not really sure how to help a couple. Then she has a peer advisory group that gives her different perspectives on like on what's going on, like with the couple, which I think is really interesting. You know what I mean? They have some of her just like narration, like her thoughts about how, what we might be seeing in any given couple, like represents larger questions of the collective and larger issues. It's really interesting. So I like that aspect of it as being like more of a 360 take, but ultimately it is about the couples in the couples therapy. And this is why I find it so fascinating because I don't think that there is a better representation that I have seen about how much people can earnestly, like earnestly be so wrong about how they come across or how much people can earnestly be thinking one thing and acting out another or how people can so deeply, so earnestly feel a certain way, like be feeling a certain way and acting in a way that makes sense to them for their feeling and makes sense to nobody else. I just think it is such a humbling show to watch to remember how complicated and odd people are. And I mean people like humans. I don't mean the specifics of the people on the show, like just human beings and like how our thinking is layered with our emotions, is layered with these like unconscious impulses. Like I'm a people person in this way that that will just never not be fascinating to me. It will never not be fascinating to me how people work like that and will never not help me remember and be humble to that. And I think this is like, not that... Things can just be fun for fun's sake, but I literally think it helps me not take things personally because you watch this show and you just recognize how people are behaving is about them, not you. And obviously this is couples therapy so that her whole point is that yes, and then the couple as a system has to figure this out. But it's just because she creates so much safety and there's so much openness, it just helps to see, and I appreciate these people who come on this show like so much, but it just helps to see it so well. So like, then when you think back to like somebody who you're really frustrated with or who you don't understand, or somebody comes at you in a crazy way or something, it just is a helpful reminder. And it's so easy to take things personally, right? Something happens to you and you're like, you know, but it is such a good reminder about how humans work, which is that like, you can take things personally. You can do that. Or you can remember that humans are complicated and we are so in our own heads and we have our own perspective and our own lens and we're bringing all this stuff to the table. And even if with all of that, like literally we have different ways of expressing different feelings and thoughts and emotions. And I just think it's so well done and it's fascinating to me. So I watched, I literally just watched like what, 18 episodes in like two weeks, just like finished out. So I watched season four, interesting in a lot of ways. And sometimes at the end, I'll be at the end, I'll be like, y'all don't, y'all should go ahead and break up. I mean, I'm not the therapist for this. But like, I don't know about this, you know, but most of the time it's very hopeful. That's very hopeful. Anyway. So that's the show couples therapy season four. Okay. I have one more podcast and then a book. All right. So my podcast recommendation is very random, but I I'm sure I'm not the only person that's happened to just because of how viral this moment was. So I'm a wicked fan, been a fan of the wicked musical for a long time. One of my, the most magical like nights I had in New York was like, you know, being a broke student. and like winning the lottery to go. They did Outside the Wicked outside the theater for$20 tickets to sit in the front two rows to see the show. And that was the first time I'd ever seen it. I saw it with the second cast, not the first cast, but the second cast. So like, I just want you to understand the love goes deep. The love goes deep. Listened to the soundtrack since that time, loved it. So, you know, when the movie came out, I was like all over, very excited to see the movie and then taking in the incredible performance press tour run. They were literally everywhere. So I, like many of you listening and maybe not like many of you saw the like interview clip with Cynthia Erivo and this brown haired woman from Australia who was talking about how wicked for her as somebody who's part of the neurodiverse community, she has ADHD and autism and how much she feels so represented by the story of wicked and Glenda and Alphaba. And they just like have this like nice exchange and there's, you know, Everybody gets emotional. But this woman just has such an interesting spirit and expression. And so I remember seeing a clip. So then I was like, oh, I want to see this full interview. I want to find this. So then I went to find the full interview. And I realized, oh, she is a very famous person in Australia. I had not heard of her, but very famous over there. And she has a podcast called Em Salation. Her name is Em Rossiano. Her podcast is called Em Salation Podcast. And it's a podcast with her and her her best friend, Michael Lewis. And I'll talk about the connection there. And so I was like, oh, so I went to the podcast so I could watch the full interview. It was even better. The full interview was even better than the clip. And then that led me to like watching episodes of the podcast. So the podcast is a podcast, but it's also on YouTube. So you go either way. And it's just so funny. I mean, it's totally just like pop culture commentary. I think the reasons I like it are multitude. One is the American obsession with accents. So, you know, they're Australian. So it's fun to listen to them talk. to it's interesting to hear their perspective on pop culture events that feel very American. It's like a reminder of how global this culture is in a way. So like, I just find it funny and interesting. I will say that during the election, they have like a lot of commentary about the election and about, you know, Kamala versus Trump. Obviously they are, obviously, obviously, you know, stand against everything that Trump represents. Otherwise, why would I be listening to this? But like that part was actually a little difficult. I find it difficult to listen to their commentary on American politics, but I think it's because I am jealous of the fact that they have the distance that they do. You know what I mean? Because our politics are insane. And when you're not in it and subject to it so directly as those of us here in this country are, it is entertaining. I mean, it's insanely entertaining. And so for me, it's just hard to listen to because I'm like, I wish I could have this distance from this insane insanity that we are living in right now. And they do recognize like, I mean, they're in Australia, like they recognize a part of the Western world. They recognize all those connections. But I will just say for those who go, listen, I tend to kind of jump past parts where they're specifically talking about American politics for that reason. But yeah, they're really funny. They have interesting takes on like what's happening pop culture wise. It's like a really well done show. Like she is very good at this. It's really interesting representation from the neurodiverse city community. And she has a lot of thoughts about that and about how autism and ADHD show up in women. And she is a white woman. Her host is a white man. I think they're pretty aware of that lens. She definitely highlights a lot of people of color on the podcast and makes a point. And she has very progressive views and all that. But, you know, there are still times when it just like it's like, OK, this is very white. You know, they're just times like that. I mean, not not most of the time. Otherwise, honestly, I wouldn't listen to it. But that's to say that's true. Now, here, I think, is what really got me is that. So this best friend of hers, Michael Lewis, is a screenwriter. And so he He was the screenwriter and showrunner for this show in Australia called The Newsreader, which, I mean, it's like an incredible show. It's an Australian show. It actually got nominated for an international Emmy for best drama. Okay, one of the stars of The Newsreader is Anna Torv. Okay, Anna Torv is the same person who starred in the potentially, I feel like, underrated, undervalued, amazing supernatural slash crime show Fringe. Fringe was so good. Y'all shout out to all of the Fringe fans. It was such a good show. I think it went, did it go three seasons? I just remember the last season was like really a mess, but season one and season two. Oh my God. Season one. Oh my, I mean, one of the best seasons of television, in my opinion, truly was season one. Anyway, so Fringe. So I was like, oh my gosh. So it just, even that connection got me excited. One, it reminded me how much I love French. So that took me down like, oh, I'm going to watch a couple episodes of French to remind myself how good it was. It was just as good as I remember. And Anna Torv, I was like, oh, this actress has done more. Tell me. Tell me more. So that made me actually go and find the newsreader. It was kind of hard to find because it was in Australia. But then I went and watched. I ended up watching the first season and a little bit, I think, of the last season, just because Michael talks about it on the show enough that I was intrigued. And it was exceptional. And her Her co-star in the newsreader is the dude who plays Lestat in the new interview with the vampire. So you see how all these connections, random. But anyway, all that to say is to come back to the recommendation is the Emsolation podcast. It's just, it's irreverent. It's funny. It's totally just culture. It's totally just pop culture takes. Oh, and the other thing I like about it as an American listener is half of the things they talk about and half of the references, I don't know what the hell they're talking about. Because it's something Australian and that is kind of fun. Because, like, it's funny how sometimes I don't even need the reference for, like, what they're talking about to be funny or whatever, you know? But then also, like, then there are some times where I'm, like, intrigued enough by the conversation to, like, go and find, like, what is this thing going on in Australia? So, Insolation Podcast, total recommendation. I actually went up and, like, I'm, like, one of the subscribers. I mean, it's, like, a couple dollars a week or something, so I can get, like, the extra, like, the extra podcast that they do in the video because it's, like, that entertaining to me. All right. So, we're rounding out to my fourth recommendation. And I think I'm not going to overly structure myself going forward with these podcast recess recommendations, but I think I will try to do like four each time just to keep it not too long, but interesting. So this is a little bit of a cheat because I haven't actually read this yet. I just know it's going to be good. I just know it's going to be good. So I just found this out yesterday. This is hot off the press, y'all. Naomi Novik. is an author that I love for a lot of reasons. One, she most recently wrote the School of Mance trilogy. That was a New York Times bestseller. So maybe a lot of you read it. I think it might be technically YA, but like, I don't know. I mean, it's deep. I put this on my Instagram. I have this like very elaborate book recommendation section on my Instagram. But I think what I talked about it is that it's very like, you know, has DNA from Harry Potter, right? It's a school of, you know, magicians, school of people who can do magic. But that is about it. I mean, when I tell you it diverges from there, but it is such a clear commentary about education and class and corruption, but incredibly entertaining, incredibly interesting. I will say it is dark. I mean, it's deep and it's dark, but it's very well done. It's not so dark you can't read it. It's not that level because obviously, like I said, I'm too sensitive for that. Like I wouldn't read something that would take me down that far. But, oh man, by the end of the third book, I just, it's one of those things you close the book and you're just thinking, you're like, yeah, I mean, evil endures. It's just, it's really good. Anyway, so she's amazing from that. But before that, she wrote all the dragon, the books that were like His Majesty's Dragon. It was basically like a retelling of the Napoleonic Wars, if there were dragons at the time. And if that sounds crazy to you, think about how hard that would be to write. Like her ability to research and be historically accurate, but then so creative and so interesting. Nobody else could get me to read a series about the Napoleonic Wars. I don't care. Just because, and then throw some dragons in it. So yes, I know everybody, right now, Onyx Storm and Rebecca Yaros are all the rage, whatever. I will just say, I'm sorry, I'm an OG Naomi Novik dragon girl, okay? I mean, that series also got a little shaky towards the end, but I just thought it was really good but here's the reason why I'm really a fan of Naomi Novik because before she was doing this she was a fan fiction like goddess okay like main big name amazing stories well written interesting like I loved to see her transition to traditional publishing because I was just like it's insane to me that this person is just like writing fan fiction that we're all just reading for free this makes no sense like she is so talented so that's just to say it has been decades probably at this point that I've been a fan of this woman. So that's why I feel comfortable recommending that I just found out that she just released a new book of short stories called Buried Deep. And what is really cool is that apparently it's a book of short stories of like short stories that take place in each of these different worlds she's created. She has a whole nother world that's kind of alternative fairy tales. I read those. I like them enough, but I like the other too much more. So yeah, I'm really excited about this. And And then there's one short story included that is a short story from a new world, like a new series she's working on. Are you kidding me? Sign me up. So I'm very excited because I already requested it at my library and it's coming. It's in my hold section. So I'm just going to go pick it up as soon as it shows up, probably tomorrow. And so I'm excited to start that. So Buried Deep by Naomi Novik. Other Novik fans out there, if you decide to pick this up and read it, let me know. And that is the podcast recess today. I hope that you take at least one of these recommendations and have actual recess time. Go have fun. Go do something that is not work. Go do something that is not self-improvement. Go do something that is like genuinely enjoyable. It is true that a lot of my recommendations underneath have some level of self-improvement in them, but that's just who I am. 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