And the Winner Should Have Been...

Hell or High Water

June 18, 2022 Bob and Mark Season 2 Episode 32
And the Winner Should Have Been...
Hell or High Water
Show Notes

It's another episode we recorded well ahead of time (you'll notice easily enough when Bob gets the episode number wrong and fails to know that we'll use this format with The Northman and The Batman), but this was one that was particularly fun. The spoilers on this are heavy throughout, and we really suggest strongly that you watch the movie first. It's a good one, and it's worth seeing unspoilt.

Music:
Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode

00:10 Intro and getting the episode number wrong, and then getting the novelty of this format wrong because we recorded The Batman and The Northman after this, but published them sooner.
1:01 How we chose to discuss Hell or High Water
3:12 Digression on the Oscar Best Picture mix-up
4:07 Deciding to avoid spoilers for the first section of the podcast
5:04 (Mostly) spoiler-free synopsis (no more spoilers than one would get from the trailer) Jump to 7:10 to skip synopsis entirely
7:10 How the movie reveals the plot and motivations slowly and how the trailer short-circuits some of that effort
8:54 Taylor Sheridan
9:28 Ambiguity regarding the morals and motivations of many of the characters
10:44 The odd quasi-mirroring of the pairs of antagonists and the relationship between them
15:50 HERE DO THE SERIOUS SPOILERS BEGIN!
15:58 Comparison to No Country for Old Men
19:26 Ben Foster's portrayal of the older brother, Tanner
21:39 Scapegoats and sin-eaters
23:54 Viewer impressions of Tanner
25:21 Plot discussion: change of bank target at the end of the film
27:27 How Tanner's character leads to the final outcomes
28:33 Tanner and staying out of prison
29:30 Texas and frontier justice
30:25 The film testing the viewer's loyalty to the protagonists in the third act
32:11 Bob's favorite scene and character
38:09 Mark's favorite scene
40:08 If that ain't Texan, I don't know what is
40:56 Excellent writing creates sympathy for the villains
41:31 Sympathy from other characters
46:48 Frank view of human frailty and failings and expressing affection when culture forbids it
53:29 The expression of grief and loss
56:17 The final showdown
1:00:00 Reversal of roles, mirroring of the pairs
1:06:43 Spoiler for the end of Inception, comparing endings
1:08:03 One more scene...
1:09:31 Closing thoughts, hidden gems

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Music:
Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode