And the Winner Should Have Been...

Star Trek!

September 10, 2022 Bob and Mark Season 2 Episode 36
And the Winner Should Have Been...
Star Trek!
Show Notes

We tentatively approach television for the first time in the last episode where Mark is still in Europe. It's another shorter one, but you have to expect that once in a while. They can't all be 90 minutes.

0:45 Mark again graciously records in the middle of the night from Europe
1:20 Trekkie or Trekker? Bob and Mark don't care.
3:30 Sub-genres of Trek and Mark's ranking of them
6:06 Bob's ranking of the Trek sub-genres
7:41 The primary movie at issue
8:10 Bob defends
9:20 The best defense is a good offense
10:05 A digression on the first season of ST:TNG
11:41 Bob ranks all the movies
12:50 Mark ranks his top 5
13:45 First Contact as the TNG version of The Voyage Home
16:00 Bob is flat-footed when challenged to defend his contention
17:25 Mark admits to being pretentious (okay, okay, to liking serious film)
19:19 It's really about the whales
20:05 Time for nitpicking First Contact!
21:25 80s nostalgia
24:27 The Kelvin reboot
25:55 Beyond
26:54 A short list of (rant about?) the problems with Generations (and some actual discussion)
30:27 Nemesis
31:17 Mark recaps the plot
32:33 Bob is still confused
34:10 Tom Hardy's third appearance in a feature film
35:55 Data's legacy and self-sacrifice in film
40:33 Marvel mention!
41:55 Wrath of Khan could have been better...
43:05 The Final Frontier is best forgotten
44:16 Podcasts as therapy!
45:24 Series length (and an unintentional pun!)
46:45 Banter about Mark's European tour
48:30 Conclusion

Bob's Ranking

  1. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country
  2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
  3. Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
  4. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock
  5. Star Trek: First Contact
  6. Star Trek: The Motion Picture
  7. Star Trek: Beyond
  8. Star Trek: Generations
  9. Star Trek: Insurrection
  10. Star Trek
  11. Star Trek: Into Darkness
  12. Star Trek: Nemesis
  13. Star Trek V: The Final Frontier

Mark's Ranking

  1. Star Trek: First Contact
  2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan
  3. Star Trek
  4. Star Trek: Nemesis
  5. Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country

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Music:
Intro and Outro music excerpted without alteration other than length and volume from AcidJazz by Kevin McLeod under a Creative Commons (CC BY 3.0) license: https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/legalcode