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Discover How Passion & Patience Help You Create Art that Connects: An Interview with Denis Mayer Jr.

• Matt Tommey: Artist, Best-Selling Author, Speaker, Entrepreneur and Artist Mentor

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In this captivating episode of The Thriving Christian Artist Podcast, I sit down with internationally recognized wildlife artist Denis Mayer Jr. to hear the story behind his incredible mastery of realism and the journey that led him from a teenage sign painter in Montreal to one of Canada’s most respected fine artists.

Denis shares how early influences from his father, architectural rendering skills, and years in commercial art all shaped his signature style. We talk about the discipline required to reach mastery, how to adapt when the industry changes, and the enduring power of creating from passion and love for your subject. His story is one of resilience, adaptability, and an unwavering pursuit of excellence in art.

What You’ll Learn in This Episode:

  • How Denis transitioned from commercial art to fine art wildlife painting
  • The importance of technical skill and discipline in achieving realism
  • Lessons learned from decades of navigating the changing art industry
  • Finding your unique voice as an artist through life experience
  • The role of passion and patience in creating art that connects deeply with viewers

🌟 Favorite Quotes from This Episode:

“My passion as a young kid was already seen as an artist.” — Denis Mayer Jr.

 “When one door closes in your art career, it’s often God opening another — the key is to keep creating.” — Matt Tommey

 “Mastery doesn’t happen overnight. It’s thousands of hours, one brushstroke at a time.” — Denis Mayer Jr.


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Speaker 1:

All of the world, artists are awakening. Painters and potters, writers and weavers, poets and dancers not chasing followers or fame, but sons and daughters called for such a time as this, transformed from the inside out, creating with purpose, releasing the glory of God and living in the power of the kingdom. Right now, this is the Thriving Christian Artist. Well, hey, friends, welcome back to the podcast. This is Matt Tommey, your host. Super glad that you are here. I've got a great new friend that I'm just getting to know, but love his work and love his story. Dennis Mayer is an artist from up in British Columbia, but, man, what a body of work and what a history you have. So, dennis, so glad you're here. Man, welcome.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, thank you for having me on your podcast. That's an honor.

Speaker 1:

Absolutely, absolutely. For those folks that are just kind of getting to know you maybe they know your work, I wouldn't be surprised. But for folks that are just getting to know you, kind of, let us know what you do creatively and where you are in the world, and then we'll jump into a little bit of your backstory.

Speaker 2:

Well, I live in British Columbia with my wife and kids. Now they're three kids. Wow, yeah, one of my daughters just got married last summer. Come on, and time goes by fast. But having said that, I've been in British Columbia since 1992. And originally from Montreal back east, 1992, and originally from Montreal back east and I started out at a very young age working with my dad in the sign painting. My dad was a sign painter by trade oh cool. And back then was all all done by hand, so there was no vinyl and all this decos that we see today. So I started at 14 years old. I quit school and I mean it's the actually what you call the director, the principal of the school, send a special letter to my dad and say we thought about it to the school board and this kid is wasting his time in school so he might go and work with you. Because my passion as a young kid was already seen as an artist, right.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

So anyway. So we went into sign painting, but I didn't like it. That was not my thing, it was my dad's stuff, right. But I wanted to be an artist, and only to find out that I ended up, I quit school and then I'm into sign business and it's like I'm still doing letters from A to Z. It's like another form of being in school type of thing. So finally, anyway, so we quit this and then we went into architectural renderings and I have a very deep background in in the drafting. So basically, people would send me a set of blueprint and, uh, back then again, it was not done through autocad, it was all done what you call perspective vanishing point and it would end up with the house in perfect scale and you went back to school for that then, or what?

Speaker 2:

no, my dad learned how to do the box, the renderings, the, the what from the, what you call the perspective, and through him, and, uh, he did a lot. My dad was more into the pen and ink. I was in full color. I don't know if you've seen son of mine, but I've done it for years and I work for a company in missouri, st louis, and for a home planner, and until they call me and they say, thanks a lot for your service, it was awesome. But now we can have it done half price and half the amount of time in in india, mexico, who knows where. Yeah, so that was that's a field that slid under my feet. And then I went into commercial art and I did a lot of food packaging, airbrush, illustration. I never worked digitally. I have no formation on computer outside of putting little photos together for my concept, but it's nothing. You can't use that for anything really. And then I went into commercial art for quite some time and then disappeared too. It went digitally.

Speaker 2:

So I've always loved wildlife since I'm a kid and I remember my first artist that I discovered was Glenn Lotz. I think he's in Ontario, lotz, I think he's in Ontario, and then he would have those little advertising of his chickadee and of collectible plate that you would see in the tissue paper the white swan tissue and he would have this little paper to promote his collectible plate with his image. And that's when the wildlife art in my head just went on. And then from there I started to you know, I mean, it's a long process. Years went on. So in 2008, right where the recession started to be a little bit hard, I had a guy come to me and he was into the oil business in Alberta and he said Dennis, I believe in your work. And he said I'm ready to help you to make a transition from commercial art to fine art.

Speaker 1:

Wow.

Speaker 2:

How huge is that, right? Yeah, so I mean, he was a cousin of an art gallery owner that I knew here already, but nevertheless he trusted me enough to give me that jump. And then he started to buy some upfront purchase of originals and then eventually I went on my own and that's what I do now and I do commissions for anywhere in the world, like you know I've done for Sydney, australia, switzerland. There's a guy in Switzerland he owns a lot of my pieces and you never know, it's a funny thing. Like you know, sometimes I don't personally into this because I heard it, but you know they say when you have a tattoo done, it's an addiction. You want two, three, which I don't know. I'm not, I don't know, I'm not a tattoo guy, right? No? But I'm just saying that sometimes I see as a joke art. It's a bit like that If people love your art, it's like you, right, you do basket or something like that. Well, if people love it, it's like okay, this is too beautiful, it can't just stand on its own.

Speaker 1:

I've got to have a second one.

Speaker 2:

I've got to have a third and a fourth, so that's why I always try to put you know all my best and you never know where it goes right.

Speaker 1:

I'm amazed at how seamlessly it seems that you've been able to make a move from the sign shop and then architectural renderings, then commercial art and then into this. So many artists if we talk about this all the time on the podcast and in our mentoring program, you know have these huge mental blocks, it seems, from being able. You know, maybe God is trying to lead them in a certain direction, but they've not ever done it before. They feel all these feelings of inadequacy or not qualified. I didn't go to school for that or I'd never done it that way before. Am I reading this right that you just kind of stepped from one thing to the other pretty easily? Or were there some struggles along the way that were really a challenge for you that kind of kept you from doing it as quickly or as easily as you might want to do?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I mean, let's keep this very real. I mean, it's like what you said, it's basically as you know well as well. It's like I had to reinvent myself many times, and yet it's all different field. Mind you, in architectural renderings, a person would do this in their early 20 and do this all the way. A full career, that's yeah right career, sure, and then um commercial art, that's another full career, you know. So I've done all this very competitively, like very professionally in a compressed time frame too well, that's it.

Speaker 2:

a lot of people think I'm probably like 90 years old, if they don't know who I am, like you know. But what happened is back to your question is because when I worked for my dad and when he owned the sign painting, my dad did a bit of everything. We did the signs. He was doing architectural renderings, we would install the signs. So I'm also a very physical guy, like I don't mind heavy stuff and work hard.

Speaker 2:

So all this was combined as a young person already and it's not like my dad would go, I'm assigned train to. Oh my God, I can't go to plan B, that's it, I have to. He was very handyman by himself, so he would end up in engaging in a lot of different things all combined. I've been raised this way, yeah, yeah. So having up and engaging in a lot of different things all combined have been raised this way, yeah, yeah. So, um, having said that it's not easy, I mean it hasn't been that easy, not so much in the ability part, but is where's the market for it? Yeah, I could sit here right now and I think and I'm sure you're you're the same as an artist. It's like we can do so much more than what we can do. If you really be real with yourself, you know you have the ability to do this, but it's like, okay, am I gonna go back to zero? And trying to find out where the market is, and all over again. That part was a struggle yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

It's interesting, though, I think, hearing your story with the guy who kind of helped to open up this wildlife market for you and all that.

Speaker 1:

I think back in my own journey of when I moved to the mountains from I had been living in Georgia, then moved to the mountains, and it was like God brought me the right people at the right time to open a door, to meet people I never should have met before, or to see an idea or maybe somebody. I always say my commissions were some of my best ideas were ideas from my clients, not necessarily my ideas, but they saw my work in a different way and talk to us about the whole God thing. Because I know your faith is strong. You're somebody that believes in you know being led by the Lord and what you're doing. Faith is strong. You're somebody that that believes in you know being being led by the Lord and in what you're doing in your life. When did you start to kind of sense that maybe God's leading me on my path here, even in situations that would maybe freak everybody else out or or maybe even cause people to give up like too much change, like I can't even. I can't even do this?

Speaker 2:

When did you start to understand that maybe God had a plan for you. And all this, well, you know, for me is my faith. I like to make it as real as possible, not that I make it, but you know what I mean. Yeah, I don't like to live in a mirage Like, if it happens, it happens. If it doesn't, I'm not going to come up with some kind of a bedtime story to make it look Sure.

Speaker 2:

So for me is um, which a lot of people don't't don't understand up to today, is I don't give business card to anyone. I'm in one or two gallery, maybe two galleries. I am terrible in marketing with video technology, youtube, youtube and all the stuff Terrible, and if you look, I really don't have that much stuff on YouTube. As far as my art, there's a lot more about my singing because I sing opera on the side. I'm a dramatic tenor, I sing Italian opera, so you probably see more of that on YouTube than art. But for me is is is how god, and I actually wrote an article on facebook about that and I said look, if you don't want to believe me, it's your problem. But I said I'm telling you is that it's almost like god knows each and everyone's pace of working. One works fast, the other one. So as much I'm being real here, as much as I would like god to give me 20 originals, uh, commissions, right now, and I would make a ton of money and this, and that I'm not the kind of a guy to produce that fast. So as much as I I to have it. It's not my personality to undertake so much at once because my kind of work takes a lot of time.

Speaker 2:

So I could tell you stories. Each painting, honestly, that's on my website there's a story behind it. Every time and I'm not trying to be overholey I'm being real with you here. Almost every time that there is an interest, commissioner, it happens quick. The process is quick. It's like I'm interested, boom. Okay, here's the deposit. You can tell as soon as things started to drag. For instance, there's a guy last November, before Christmas. He said Dennis, I want to commission two paintings. It was a total of $70,000. Everything was fine and dandy up to now. I'm still be waiting. And then eventually I had to tell him. I said look, are you just dreaming or it's real, or am I not awake? So I said to my wife. I said that doesn't look like it's God's plan. There's a weird delay. I'm not saying things have to happen for me all the time.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but you can just sense something's up For me, my normal way of seeing how God is in it is when things goes smoothly and it's real and it happens. So, um, a lot of people say you don't advertise, you don't do this, and how do you like? What do you get your work from? You know, and I I don't have enough time on this podcast, but I mean I could tell you stories over and over again, but I'm going to tell you one just to increase some of people's faith, yeah, and also increase mine again while I'm talking about it I'm the same way.

Speaker 1:

The more you tell it, the more excited you get.

Speaker 2:

I get it, I get it one day I was in my studio. That's like what? Maybe a a year, a year ago, something that I was in my studio, and if you look on my website, there's only one painting of a rhino that I did. It's a white rhino. It was in memory of the one left, northern rhino in Sudan, who died 2018, I think. So anyways. So finally, not in Sudan, but I should say his name of the writing was Sudan.

Speaker 2:

So I'm in my studio and I said Lord, I've never been so real with God. I had my hand on my drawing board and I said, lord, that time I really focused, not just with my mouth, but I focused that there's an actual God up there who gave me the talent, who hears me. I really made myself. I know he hears me, we know that part, but the question is how real and focused on my side I am. We tend to always wonder how come God doesn't answer. We wonder about his way of doing things, but how about my way of asking things? Am I sincere? Am I real? So I was on the drawing board and I said God, you hear me, you give me the talent. I said I need a commission, I'm about to finish this one, and I said I don't know where to go. God knows, I'm telling you the truth. I haven't finished my prayer.

Speaker 2:

I have my iPad beside me. I hear ding. It gets better. I'm looking at the iPad and it's a message from this guy in what do you call that? In Sydney, australia? Wow, he goes. Dennis, yes, I would like to go ahead with the white rhino painting. I'm looking at this and I said what said? What does he mean? Like I'm ready to go. It's an email that he sent in 2017 or something that?

Speaker 2:

wow that I never replied because his name is luke and my local framer is also luke, so I would assume I assume that every time I saw something that was from him, that was the message from my framer called Luke, and I thought I don't need to look at it. I'm updated, I already know. Yeah, I'm updated with Luke all the time and I'm like he wanted to commission it in 2017. And I never read this. I skipped that.

Speaker 2:

As soon as I'm finished praying, I'm like what I have to tell you, matt, it's almost freaky. Yeah, sure, sure, it's like. Someone is like what's going on? This actually works. This is incredible. And then, two seconds after, I got another ding of someone wanted to purchase a small original canvas that I put on my Facebook. Come on, come on, so it doesn't happen all the time this way, but I have doubts on different things as a Christian. It's a journey. It's not always easy, but as far as this one, it's a journey. It's not always easy, but as far as this one, there's no doubt. I mean it's. It's kind of be more real than that.

Speaker 1:

So I just think I always tell people, being an artist is the ultimate walk of faith. I mean, right, we go into our studios, we create what God puts on our heart and we do. We trust that that he's sending the buyers, that he's in the collectors or the galleries or whatever. And I think so many times God is, is waiting for us to to just ask, because I just found so many things in the kingdom like God will, god will let you, you know, go, try to figure it out your own self. Or until such a time, right as you come, come on back and say, well, lord, I need you, I want your answer, I want your way.

Speaker 1:

I'm asking you for the commission and I think more and more the Lord is teaching all of us, especially in these crazy economic times and all that's going on in the world. It's like, lord, we don't want to do this without you. It's like Moses said, like I don't want to go from here unless you're with me and I just I hear that in your story and I feel the same thing in my life, like there's a whole lot of things I can do by my own talent or marketing abilities or networking or whatever, but man, when God shows up and does it, just like that. How much more incredible is the story and is the fulfillment and it builds my faith and connection with him, and that I mean that's what it's all about.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and I have. I have something here. Allow me to just pull over here for a second. I'll show you. This is something that I just printed, but I added that word and I put that in my in my studio.

Speaker 1:

Nobody paints like God. I love it.

Speaker 2:

I love it, but it's interesting because I've been raised in church all my life and a lot of people say or even the nonbelievers God-given talent. We hear this all the time. It's a God-given thing. So I thought, okay, is it a Christian expression or it's real? I'm starting to look in the Bible if it's really a God-given thing or is just a DNA thing, right, right. And then I started I think it's in where is that? In Jeremiah, when God cared so much about arts and craft that he took one of the best artisans to build the sculptor, whatever, in the temple. I'm not sure if I have the….

Speaker 1:

Well, in Exodus 31, bezalel I mean he and Aholiab built the Tabernacle of Moses and all the stories God chose some specific craftsman to actually embellish the building, and God does care about beauty Big time.

Speaker 2:

We just have to look at his creation, right? Yeah, hello, yeah. So then I thought, okay, we do have a place as an artist, we're not just some kind of a hazard. And years ago I had a print that was for an auction through Dachshund Limited in what do you call that? A dealership garage.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, today this guy who used to work there is one of my closest friends and we're going back all the way years back. He calls me. He said Mr Mayor. I said yes. He said I work for a dealership and he said in the shop. He said I saw this print and I want it. I bid and I want it. And he said I would like to meet you, for you to autograph the glass. Wow. I said sure, come in my house. The guy like outdoors, we're like two brothers within 30 minutes, and the guy is a Christian too, with his wife. And as soon as we started to talk, I didn't know if he was Christian and vice versa. His wife tells me, I told my husband, I knew this guy was a Christian before I even asked him. I didn't paint Jesus, I didn't paint a holy scene it was a lioness with cubs.

Speaker 2:

Then I started to realize when God puts his anointing, the lioness is there, but there's something that comes out of this image. Come on, another lioness that's been painted without anointing. Same thing with the voice. Like a lot of people say, when you sing, dennis, I have chills. I have this anointing. I'm no Pavarotti. Yet One thing is I've seen in a lot of places with professional tenors and everything like that and it took me a while to understand what is the anointing. It's a bit like the story of the master starch, you know, for the violin.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, sure, sure, sure.

Speaker 2:

So I sent a text to I won't name it, but to a very world-famous Western artist and I said man, I said you paint cowboys with guns and shoot each other. And I said you're Christian. And I said I don't want to put you on the spot, but I said I'm really trying to find out how can we make our work more for the glory of God.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I like to draw chief Indians and the old chief A lot of them, man. They're like, they're rough on the edge, they're not that holy at all and I'm like, how can I take a subject that is not like painting Jesus or the 12 disciples or none of this stuff? How can this bring glory to God? Sure, at one point I almost thought should I just paint Jesus? Seen, I mean I'll be right on the target, right, Right, right. But then I started to realize it's not so much about the subject, because we just can't paint Jesus. You know what I mean. But what I'm saying is it's if God anoints what we do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's what your art carries, it's what your life carries. Yeah, come on.

Speaker 2:

And if we are aligned in our life, personal life, in order to receive the blessing, the anointing, and all this so that when people look at the art some people, they had teary eyes looking at my painting even it's a moose, since when you teared up looking at a moose, I never, I never did myself. I do the painting myself for three months. I never teared up, right, right, you look at it. So that's the difference. It speaks something, yeah, and even at one point I stopped doing it. I have no reason why, but I shouldn't, I should have kept going and maybe I should get back at him every time. I would ship an order that needs to be rolled and ship in a tube just to print. I had it at eight and a half by eleven and I wrote biblically how heaven came to be and God created beautiful nature, kind of my art, God's creation nature, yeah, yeah. And I wrote something like that and I would roll it along with the print to kind of minister God's glory, along with my image, right, my image right.

Speaker 2:

But you know, recently, uh, recently, I would say two days ago I've been wanting to do wildlife, uh, western art, so badly, but storyteller pieces, I don't know if you know the artist, howard turpening I've heard the name, yeah, oh he's. He's like, he's not detailed, detailed, but he's this kind of brushstroke. I mean, no one paints Indians like he does. But anyways, as an artist, you envy different styles and I could do this, but I would probably really be good at it in 30 years from now. So it takes a lifetime. So that's how he thinks. I think detail and photorealism maybe he doesn't. So I came to god a couple days ago and I said god. I said, could it be that I'm starting slowly because I feel agitated, my spirit I'm not. I'm not so at peace like I used to when I would do only wildlife yeah, and now he's drawing you into the next thing right, sure, yeah.

Speaker 2:

So now I'm starting to combine western art and I'm in british columbia and I have to hire models and I don't have the accessibility so easy as in texas horses ranches and all the cowboy stuff In BC. I would have to travel, spend a fortune and all the modeling and everything. It's a long, expensive process that is not easy for me being in British Columbia, canada. So I thought, okay, maybe God could it be that I'm slowly starting to go away from the original call for me Not that I will not keep doing portrait, but as far as creating a whole scenery, that it takes me weeks to do the concept until I don't even feel peace about it. It's literally a burden. God needs your talent for you to be able to do the work in a certain ease. Mind you, we work at it and all this. But you know what I mean. Right, there's a grace to it. I get that. Yeah, I mean, if I'm going to sit and do your basket, whatever you do, I'm sure there will be no grace that you have with me, because it's not my call. No, but I'm just saying Right, right, it's like, okay, this guy, pretend he's anointed, anointed, but I mean he's going through a lot of headache and after a while it's like, okay, am I going off track here? So I said god, I said, could it be that my call was really, really wildlife? And again I'm not saying I won't do, but it's like.

Speaker 2:

And then this morning, out of the blue, I'm listening at don swaggered because pastor evangelist jim Swaggard passed away a couple of years ago and I'm just looking at it and they make this Bible study and I kind of like it, because people ask questions and the answer is not. And Don goes. He said we have to make sure that we don't step into something that God has not called us. Sometimes we tend to envy something else and we we thrive to do it, but it's not who we're meant to be or to do. I'm like, well, this, this is like yeah, of connect our confirmation right. So I'm in a point right now that there are times you just have to sit and envy and enjoy the guy's work. Yeah, yeah, but not going. I think I'm going to roll up my sleeve and let's see if I can do the same. You're going to go crazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I get it, but it's like trusting the unique voice of the Holy Spirit through your work and trusting that that's where the grace is, that's where the provision is, that's where the open doors are. Yeah, I mean, I think we can all recognize that, that you know we see something else and, oh, I'm going to go try that. And as soon as you do, it's like the creek dries up, everything dries up, the grace dries up. It's like what happened. It's like you got off the path Right, and so we.

Speaker 1:

Just the Holy Spirit is so gentle to lead us back into what he's called us to do, and I think I'm just hearing so much in your story, man, about just trusting God's faithfulness, trusting your relationship with Him, realizing that it's Him that brings the work, it's Him that brings the provision, it's Him that continues to breathe His life and anointing through you to do the thing that he's called you to do.

Speaker 1:

And when you stay there, there's abundance, there's joy, there's peace, even in a place that doesn't make sense to everybody else. And what would you just say? You know, as we kind of bring it in for a close, what would you say to somebody that's that's out there right now and maybe they're feeling that pull to go in all these different directions or, you know, they're feeling the the Instagram temptation to I want to be like that artist or this artist or I want to build my business like that artist did, because they said that's the successful way to do it. How would you encourage them to just kind of stay on this really authentic path of being led by the Spirit and being really authentic to who God's called you to be?

Speaker 2:

I'm going to link my answer a little bit to what I heard from you already, because that's how I think and I agree with, so probably you're going to find out. There's a few words that you already said, but not that I want to be pretentious or pretend that I have some kind of a. I'm a super special person, but when you put your faith in God special person. But when you put your faith in god, it doesn't mean that our way of proceeding has something to do with the norm that goes out there with the non-believers, right. Right, I I'm not on tiktoks, I don't know how to do all this little thing, but if I start to look at this as a template for my life, I heard a pastor telling me one time he said be careful, who you envy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, maybe that person goes to struggle and has a certain path or spirit in them that you would never want to have, along with what they have. So I would encourage to and I'm still working on it myself is there's nothing wrong in thinking, especially artists being innovative. We like to go outside the box big time. That's how we progress, that's true. But I think when you are believer and mix with an artist, um, we have to be careful to not make the move before we go to prayer first yeah yeah, so good.

Speaker 2:

I've done it a million times. Many times I haven't lived what I'm telling you right now. I went out of an excitement. It doesn't mean that because I'm a Christian, every move that I'm going to do is going to be holy. No, I could have followed not intentionally the wrong voice. So how about if I would have gone in prayer first? This would have avoided me from hearing the wrong voice, and that's a bit where we're, where I'm trying to be right now. So each of us, just like a signature or a look who, the height, whoever we are as a person, we're all different fingerprints, whatever, and and art is the same thing. Something is in store for us as an individual artist.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

And sometimes you look on the other side and it's like why can't I be that person? Maybe the other guy also looks at you and says why can't I be that? Right, right, we always think we envy them, but sometimes you could envy us. That may be you, right? Yeah, Trust, we envy them, but sometimes you could envy us.

Speaker 1:

That may be you right. Yeah, Trust the fingerprint of God in your life.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, not to say that I'm trying to get some self-therapy to put myself on the crown to make me feel better. But if you start to think the reverse way, that means God also has a plan for him and for me, oh yeah. But we're just different right.

Speaker 1:

And, man, when you get that and you start understanding that's where the grace is, that's where the provision is, that's where the flow is, all the resources and relationships and opportunity God has for you, that and the more you say yes to it, just like you're saying you know the iPad dings, the opportunities come, the relationships you should have never had happen, and that you know the iPad dings, the opportunities come, the relationships you should have never had happen, and that's just, that's walking in the kingdom. And man, it's been such a joy to have you on the podcast and just hear your story and all that. I know that people are going to want to see your work because guys listen. If you're watching on YouTube, you're listening on the podcast. It's incredible. You need to go check out his work. So, dennis, where can they go see your work? And we'll be sure to put a link in the show notes so people can get to it easily.

Speaker 2:

All right. Well, thank you very much for having me on your podcast. It was awesome. It was awesome. I've heard a lot of your stories and it's very inspiring, and I've heard recently a lot of your personal podcasts that you've put on how God works through confirmations and whatnot, and being led in God's blueprint and, yeah, so it's like a house. Right, we have the blueprint, we just need to build the walls Floored by four. That's right. That's basically like us.

Speaker 1:

So what is your website address and what is your Instagram handle, so we can get people to follow?

Speaker 2:

Well, Instagram is under my own name, dennis Mayer Jr Great, and so is my Facebook, and my website is Dennis Mayer Jr Dot com, so it's all the same name.

Speaker 1:

So is YouTube Good stuff Good stuff. Well, dennis, thanks again, man, great to have you on the podcast. Guys be sure to visit those websites, connect with him on social media so that you can continue to follow uh who, not only somebody that's a great artist and musician, now I know, but just somebody that's walking in the kingdom that can encourage you in your journey.

Speaker 1:

so, dennis, thanks so much thank you, god bless hey, my friend, before you go, make sure that you're signed up for the thriving christian artist weekly. It's my free newsletter, full of spiritual encouragement, creative inspiration. Hey, my friend, before you go, make sure that you're signed up for the Thriving Christian Artist Weekly. It's my free newsletter, full of spiritual encouragement, creative inspiration and practical tips to help you thrive in everything that God's called you to do as an artist in His kingdom. No-transcript, and it's a great way to stay connected. All right, love you, bye.