Dr. Jory Lerback, a recent U graduate and a current postdoc fellow at UCLA, sits down with Sustain's Maria Archibald for a conversation on everything from groundwater chemistry to equity and inclusion in the scientific community. "How we measure diversity and how we measure success is the problem," Lerback says. "When we measure success in academia by seeing how many citations you get, and how big the network you have, and how much prestige you hold with your colleagues, that all has a really strong undercurrent of all of these different societal issues, including racism, sexism, homophobia, anti-disability bias."