S1:E3 Christina Miglino: The Feminine is Here and She's PISSED

"We can replace a patriarchy with a matriarchy and sorta just do the same things we've been doing.  And I think what we really want is for communities to come together. And every single human being, every soul have a place there.  And that's what the feminine energy is actually capable of.  We're capable of holding it all."

In this episode, Energy Intuitive and founder of The Mystery School of Intuitive Intelligence, Christina Miglino, a  shamanic practitioner, hypnotherapist, and intuitive coach, will share how she helps people to thrive no matter if it’s masculine or feminine, how she recognizes the forces behind everything and helps her clients unravel the feminine’s great mystery.

"Within the Female Archetypes, we can take all the pieces or projections or personalities that we think we are, and  merge them into one fullness of being, one soul self, or true self."

Key Takeaways:

[3:10]  How each one of us is holding stories and they all have value 

[3:29] How can we heal both the Masculine and the Feminine

[7:30] What feminine energy is capable of

[13:46] The  Female Archetypes: Understanding What Women Embody

[14:05] How to see ourselves within Human Being Archetypes 

[16:12] Methodology: Why Christina Loves It 

[17:09] Three Sets of Lineages: Ancestral, Archetypal, and Soul

[24:19] Christina’s Journey to becoming the woman she is now

[45:42] Reclamation and the possibilities that come with it

[46:36] What are the visions of future femininity

Links:

Websites: https://12circlesof12.com/

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/soulprovider8/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chri

Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):

Hello, my dear sisters. Hello, my fellow bitches, sluts and princesses. This is Kristen Lena. I am so elated, excited,  jazzed up. I don't know why jazzed up came to me, maybe because my next guest used to be a dancer. I don't know. Funny things happen between me and this woman. Let me introduce you to her. The illuminating illustrious amazing and magically talented and gifted Christina Miglino is my guest today and her bio and title is this, she's an energy intuitive and she's the founder of the mystery school of intuitive intelligence. And when I talked to her about that bio just briefly, before we hit record, she was like, you know, I don't know, like I do, I do all kinds of things and no one really knows what it is anyway. So we're going to talk about the magic that she weaves on the planet.

Speaker 1 (00:55):

I will personally contribute this. She is one of the most loving, connected, authentic, and generous people that I've ever met in my entire life. She is, was my friend before she became my spiritual mentor. She has guided me, helped me. De-Condition from, is currently still helping me decondition from the patriarchy and the ways that I have been building my business up until recently, and really helping me to dive into feminine creation and what that looks like in business. And so I am a eternally grateful to have her be super excited to have this conversation. I will just tell you right now, it's 11, 11, I'm holding up my phone so she can see it. We're over video so we can see each other, but we're only recording audio and it's 1111 right now. And she knows, and I know we love the numbers. So Christina Miglino first of all, thank you for being here and thank you for being you.

Speaker 2 (02:01):

Goodness gracious. Thank you, Kristin. Thank you for having us. Yeah, you're welcome. So Christina

Speaker 1 (02:14):

Has been so many things and has done so many things and is creating such beautiful, mystical magic on the planet with healing, the feminine and healing, the really healing, the masculine as well, and so many women that she works with. So what I would love for you to do is really kind of just share your story as it relates to right now, currently who you are in the world and the work that you're doing. And then once we kind of get that, and then we'll dive into and

Speaker 2 (02:50):

Can we can't just dive into. Cause that sounds great

Speaker 1 (02:55):

Called forward right now, you know, I'm not going to deny her. Oh,

Speaker 2 (03:00):

I love it so much. You know, everything you just said is so beautiful. And, and I'll just, you know, it's like what part of the story is the most valuable right now for people and all of that good stuff, because I believe our stories are really valuable and, and I have a lot of them, you know, so I'm like, I think first and foremost, what you shared about healing, the masculine and feminine, you know, I just want to say that what I see, I'm just going to be real. Is it okay if I'm really honest right now, you know, you don't have to ask me that. That's why I asked. Cause it's kind of funny. We're going,

Speaker 1 (03:44):

We're going there and yeah, we're going there.

Speaker 2 (03:47):

Here's what I, here's where I'm. Cause I feel into it first. I'm like, what, where are we at with those that are tuned into this? And the first thing I just want to say is this is very bold, but from where I stand. So as an energy intuitive, one of the interesting roles that I've noticed that I'm good at, right? Cause it's more like noticing like, oh, you have those moments where you're like, oh, I'm really good at this. Huh. And I've had that experience about tuning into the collective consciousness. And also noticing that often I'm like, I'm like about five to 10 years in the future. And that is both cool sometimes. And also feels like, oh, I also get to find the language to serve now. You know? So that's an interesting place to vision into, you know, five to 10 years from now or more, you know, the future.

Speaker 2 (04:50):

And also I get to anchor it in the present. And one of the things that I have been really tuned into right now, and I, I feel like this, you know, has come up between you and I and Kristin and it's come up in the mystery school. And it just feels right for this moment is in the collective right now. What I see is saying this the other day, I was like teaching about the FA the feminine, you know, people are like, the feminine is rising and I was like the feminine rose. And she's, like the feminine is here and she is. And this group of entrepreneurs, these women bless their hearts for listening to me because they were like, oh yeah, like something resonated in that, you know, with them. And the point in saying it that way is not, I am not a stand for, you know, women and no men.

Speaker 2 (05:47):

And I think that that's not true for everybody. I think that there are many women right now, and I have no opinion about this, but there are leaders, there are people, there are feminists out there going, like, we don't need them. Like, let's just let them go. You know? And if I'm really honest about like this moment in time and collective consciousness and the energetics of that, I think there's some real truth to that. Now. It's not my there's many truths, but it's not my choice to say, okay, let's be rid of men. And let's just, let's all just do this. You know, lets us women kind of lead the charge and forget about the men. I think it's, it's the easier choice I noticed myself actually wanting to make that choice often. And I think I often do, like I already serve women in my work and I already have more female friends than I do male friends.

Speaker 2 (06:48):

And I also miss single women right now. You know, there's all these ways. And, and I should say that I typically date men, you know, when I'm in relationships. So it's fascinating to be in this moment. And I think the other option, and this is the one that I'm sort of like holding up, you know, in our vision saying like, Hey, do we, do we want to do this different? You know, cause we can replace a patriarchy with a matriarchy and sorta just do the same things, which I think would be on some level easier and on some level, way less satisfying. And I think what we really want is like, what would it be like for communities to come together? And every single human being, every soul have a place there. And that's what the feminine energy is actually capable of. We're capable of holding it all. We're like everyone has a place. It might not be obvious what that is, but we're going to support every single individual to be part of this collective because we are either way. Right. So it's just interesting. Cause I, I would like men to be, to play a role still. Like I would like them to be a part of this picture, but I just think we're at a very interesting place where that's not necessarily a given and I'll leave it at that for now.

Speaker 2 (08:11):

I didn't go into my story or anything like that, but that's what was coming up inside me as you asked.

Speaker 1 (08:19):

And I know so, and, and, and as you are listening, as you're listening to Christina and I create, cause this is what we do, Christina and I create and we, and Christina is the one that I've been working with. So I enrolled in her mystery school for of intuitive intelligence last year. So in 2020, so I had this amazing container going into this pandemic. And now I'm in her second year program, which is called sacred feminine leadership. And how fitting that, you know, what we're actually talking about is what you just said, where there are a handful of us in this program with you who are entrepreneurs. We have businesses and all of us are married and all of us are struggling in a very similar way with what I can call because it's my experience. I can call this wounded masculine. Now the wounded masculine comes through for me as well.

Speaker 1 (09:18):

It has, it has, you know, you and I met in a leadership container that was highly masculine, highly driven, highly, you know, go, go, go. And I in working with you have been deconditioning and re and pulling away from that mindset and that conditioning and here you, you know, here you are bringing to the forefront. It isn't that the feminine, I love that you said the feminine is rising and she is. I can resonate with that as well as I want everyone to thrive. I want everyone to thrive. My husband, your future husband, all men, because not only are we wounded through the patriarchy, but so are men in so many ways. And so when Christina and I actually talk and we have conversations, they are extremely creative. They are co-creative, they are it's, it's an actual living, breathing entity in and of itself.

Speaker 1 (10:16):

So that's, that's the magic that's getting woven right here today. So thank you for that. And yes, men get to be healed and we get to figure out how to move forward in so many ways. So I want to ask you this, what I've learned, one of the things I've learned from you is you know, these, these female archetypes, we've talked about goddess, we've talked about priestess. And while that isn't my, like, I didn't come in. Cause I know you work with a lot of women who are very highly spiritual. They've been on a very spiritual journey. I know you are, you know, shamonic practitioner, you have all kinds of modalities of, of helping people and supporting people. And many of them, almost all of them are new to me and journeying and you know, all of this energetics and I love all of it. I'm just like geeking out on it and it's new for me. And as we, you know, as I'm learning these things, I completely forgot what I was going to say. Like completely. Isn't that interesting? Isn't it so interesting that it's just that it's just left and that's, and that's, that's totally great. But my, what was my question? What were, what, what are you hearing like where, cause I know you, can you like you feel into things, where was it? What was I going to say?

Speaker 2 (11:53):

What was your, you were like, let me ask you this and then you, and then, and then, and, and that's

Speaker 1 (12:03):

Great. But I was talking, we were talking about the feminine and the masculine archetypes. Thank you for archetypes.

Speaker 2 (12:09):

Wow. I mean, I don't got it.

Speaker 1 (12:11):

It's okay. You did. You did you wanna know why? Cause it just, there's just a space there. So I just got to trust myself that it was going to come back. So these archetypes and as I'm working with you in the mystery school and in sacred feminine leadership, I am claiming this not by fitting into. Okay. I, you know, I I'm, I'm a goddess and I'm a priestess and I'm these things like I get to, I get to create something that resonates with me and what resonated with me. And this came through in a download by the way, by the way the reason there is a and princess podcast is because of Christina Miglino she quite literally messaged me and was like, I got a download. Here's the deal. You have to do a podcast that wants to come through right now.

Speaker 1 (12:54):

And I was like, son of up bit. It was on my list, but not for like months and months, she's like, Nope, Nope, guides are telling me it's it's coming through. Like you get to do this. And I was like, oh, so thank you for being the source of the download. And when it came through, when it came through, it came through the, the and the princess, because for me, those were the things that felt, these were the archetypes that feel like they're used against women. There. They historically have been terms, not used to Revere women, but use to demean. And I wanted to talk to you about archetypes because I know you have a whole, you know, your relationship with that. What's your take on archetypes in general. So you can talk about the, the slit and the princess. You can talk about, you know, how you regard the female archetypes that we could be embodying that week, that better, that are out there that resonate with you.

Speaker 2 (13:55):

Hmm. Ooh, it's so juicy. I could go so many places with this. You know, first and foremost, archetypes for human beings are such a great way to see ourselves, you know, to see aspects of ourselves. And I, I love, you know, you mentioned shamonic work and I do one of my strong lineages of mentorship and long-term studies has been the shamonic lineage w with a teacher that I've been, I was with for many years, I should say. And, and that is very archetypal work, you know, because I think at the core of it, and this is kind of true for all the healing modalities that I've experienced is that the core of them they're the same. They say, let's ç

Speaker 2 (15:03):

And I just love that place where we begin to really see ourselves in the myths and the stories of the woman, you know, and, and for all of us it'll look different, right. You know, for you, I know and princess, it was like, that's it like that locked in something for you. And what's so beautiful is that they do have sort of the shadow and the gifts sides. Like they have these different facets too. So we can work out our quote unquote through the archetype as well, to see it playing out, you know, what is the story of the princess? You know, who who's calling her a princess and that's like a positive thing, and who's calling her a princess as a derogatory thing and so on and so forth. Right? There's endless, there's endless archetypes. We can sort of tune into.

Speaker 2 (16:01):

And I love mythology for the same reason, because it really helps us ground. We have stories and they may be stories of our own ancestors, or they may not be, they may be collective stories of what it means to be a woman human, you know, in the world. I find those things, incredibly healing in the work that I do with women, because sometimes we're at a place with something where just going into ourself, it's harder to see, you know, like the ego, when can the ego really see itself? You know, it's one of these kinds of mysteries of the human experience, you know? And so the archetypes help us to sort of pan out and look at something and learn something and apply it to ourselves or not. You know one of the ways we work a lot in the mystery school and just in the, in the circles of women that I work with is I like to break it into looking at, I call it the three lineages, you know, it's ancestral lineage, archetypal lineage, and soul lineage.

Speaker 2 (17:15):

And this sounds like, oh God, whoa. Like that's a lot. Cause it is, it's a lot, but it's, it's expanding even more. The places that we can go to feel resourced and empowered where we can cultivate life force energy, where we can call ourselves back into wholeness. You know? So one of those ways is to like really tune into our human ancestors, you know, and, and I believe everyone gets to do that. Like, you know, if it at all interests us, women, men, whoever, like everyone gets to feel into their ancestors because we are playing out our ancestors' story is whether we know it or not. So that's a great place to, you know, do healing work. And by the way, when I see healing, I, I it's healing and creating, like we're doing both all the time, it's transformation, you know? So I don't really think we need to be healed.

Speaker 2 (18:16):

I think we naturally heal and expand and heal and expand. So we can look to our ancestors. We can look at archetype, a lineage, which is for you, the, the slit and the princess, right? Like this is your archetypal lineage. These are the places that you see a reflection and you get to like, do that dance of, of learning yourself through those archetypes, you know? And then the soul lineage is potentially, and by the way, like I'm so like believe whatever you want, like take it or leave it. You know, I don't, I don't care what, what people believe or not choose not to believe. But if you want to look at the soul lineage, you can look at past life or same life experiences. You can look at stories like, and this is related similar to the archetype. You can look at stories of the saints or, you know, I think about my soul lineage.

Speaker 2 (19:10):

And I honestly, I see Mary Magdalen right there immediately. I see Joan of arc. You know, I see these different women that for whatever reason have just jumped out at me in my life and the energy, you know, even before knowing their story, the energy is so palpable between me and this, this, this woman, you know? And so, and that's true of even living artists, there are several artists alive today that I'm like, wow, we're channeling something. So similar, you know, so fascinating to hold all of this as my lineages. Cause we're very, you know, we're very interconnected and we're very profound light beings. You know, there's a lot of information coming and going from us, whether we're conscious or unconscious of it, you know? So I just thought I'd share that because I love how the archetypal work fits in there, you know?

Speaker 1 (20:09):

Yeah. Well, and for me too, you know, where I have, where I have personally felt, felt the most authentic truth, power full self-expression is when I've been able to willing to admit. And I mean the ego part, right? The admit, yes, I am this, I am this shadow, right. And how much I've resisted and avoided and denied these parts of me. And, and, and in that denial, I leak power. I just leak power. And you know, I, and you know, this a lot and a lot of the work that I do it is looking at deep conditioning. It is looking at the shadow. And for the longest time, for the longest time, my energy was spent unconsciously. My energy was spent at denying these parts of myself that I thought were bad, wrong, improper, immoral, you know, the being one of them, the definitely being an actual conscious decision of reclaiming that in my early slutty twenties and the princess, which, you know, there's the, you know, one of the things I've learned from you in the work that we've done is this, this just powerful.

Speaker 1 (21:36):

It was the, the soul energetics around the low feminine, low, high feminine, and the low masculine high masculine. And we're, you know, we're all of it. And what is it that we are creating or attracting? I just know that when I've denied or shove to the side or not wanting to look at these parts of myself that I deemed, or I believe to be bad and wrong, or even shallow, or even not spiritual enough. Right. Like all of the things that we do that I was not whole, and that is the essence of what I'm hearing you say is like, really this is about claiming all of it, our wholeness and, you know, and the places that you and I have shared, you know, the containers that we've shared together, very typical containers, you know, very typical drive masculine force, a lot of doing a lot of overdoing, a lot of achievement. And this is, you know, if we look around welcome to the state of the world, right. And so talk about your journey a little bit in like how you can't, how, like, even just, if it's just a story or two here or there, you have a, I know you have a lot of really powerful stories that led you here to this, to this work that you do.

Speaker 2 (23:01):

Yeah. So it's interesting to think about the state of the world. Like, you know, what I'm experiencing right now is maybe even like the lack of the state of the world. Like, I think there's just this fertile ground for completely transforming, I think is the right word. Some of the structures that we've been living by for so long, and I'm not necessarily going to make, you know, comments about, about the coronavirus or anything like that. Other than to say on a collective level, it's really had us take a long, long pause and thank goodness for, you know, the feminine energy of listening. So maybe not everybody decided this was an opportunity to go inward, but maybe some people did, you know, and I'm sort of banking on that, you know, for us as, as a humanity. How did I get here? Well, you know, I mean, I got here by hustling a lot, which you know, is interesting and then realizing that I did, I just, I really didn't have it in me, to be honest.

Speaker 2 (24:27):

I was like, I mean, I had the hustle in me, but I felt, I have felt at times in my life, so deeply unsatisfied. And that's the best word I can, I can think of to explain it, you know, that I knew in my life that every opportunity I got to sort of rise to the top, I did that, you know, every opportunity, whether it was like, you know, I graduated Magna laude from college, or, you know, getting the job and then, you know, getting the raise. And, but every time I felt unsatisfied, you know, every time and it was like, it really hit me, I guess, probably, and this is not so much the spiritual side, which I can talk about that as well. If that, if you want me to, but I just feel like it's important to say, you know, as far as we're talking about like the truest self and the false self and the ego, and there's all these different words, you know, to talk about these, these parts or even these sides of ourselves. And I just feel like every time I accomplished something, it was never enough. And it, and I realized one day, I remember the day actually in my, it was probably my late twenties. I don't know if I've shared this with you, this story of like the car keys. Have I shared that with you? Not the car keys, the keys, I had this like big lanyard with all these keys on it. They tell you about this now.

Speaker 1 (26:01):

Oh my God. If I have not heard a story, I'm like on the edge of my seat right now. Well, I don't know if it's

Speaker 2 (26:06):

The right story. I'm just saying what's coming forward. But, but it was so interesting. I, cause you know, you asked and I just remember this moment where I picked up my set of keys and it was so heavy and there were so many and I just started balling. Like I just started sobbing and I sat down at my kitchen table and I took every key off of the key chain one at a time. And I laid them out in a row and I just had this reckoning moment where I looked at these keys and I realized I had the key to the bar that I worked at part time, two keys to the restaurant that I worked at Friday through Sunday, all day long, I had three or four keys to different people's homes because I was either house sitting, taking care of their animals or doing their gardening.

Speaker 2 (27:11):

I was doing the gardening for the men that owned the restaurant that I worked at. And it doesn't end there. I had a key to the gallery where my art was hanging. I had three different keys to three different offices where I was doing my spiritual counseling work one day a week. Part-Time at each of these offices in three different towns. Talk about what I teach in the mystery school about like when we spread our energy, like thin and through so many different portals and pathways, man, who are we selling ourselves short in doing that? And that's what I was doing. And I wasn't seeing, I was seeing myself working so hard, so, so hard and just barely kind of like paying the bills and doing the things, you know, and in my tears, I just thought I basically, you know, sometimes we just have this moment, some people call it like the come to Jesus moment, right.

Speaker 2 (28:15):

Where you're like, okay, I just woke up good morning. Hi. I would like this to be different. Right. We finally surrender like, bless my heart. You know, I look back now and I just want to give her a hug. Cause like, she was working so hard. You know, she had a relationship and she was like running up her home and her, you know, and I, I really did Krista and I like took each of the, I made the commitment. I never want to have more than my house key and my car key on my key chain. And I gave back every single one of those keys, one at a time and it took me, it probably took me eight, eight or nine months to really like leave the restaurant and really give these things back. Right. But one at a time I just, I closed each door and gave back the keys and I, to this day, my key chain only has two keys on it. And I'm so grateful for it. I want to go look at mine.

Speaker 1 (29:15):

I'm like, let me go look, let me go look at my energetic. Like if I'm leaking energy somewhere from these. So it's just a great, it's just a great, you know, opportunity to look at where you're leaking energy, where you're just hustling. So hide it. Yeah. Because underneath every single

Speaker 2 (29:34):

One of those jobs was me knowing that there was something much bigger and much brighter for me to be shining into the world, you know? And it wasn't about me, but it was like the impact of me holding myself small had a great impact. Not only on me, on many people, you know? Yeah, yeah. That's so what was at

Speaker 1 (30:00):

That moment? That was one of those one. I love that story because it's new and I've never heard it. One it's what I'm hearing is like, this is, this is one of those ways where you, you weren't claiming yourself. It was, you know, scarcity and hustle and overworking, which is yeah. I mean, I really

Speaker 2 (30:20):

Strongly believed my in my personality self that said I wasn't capable. You know, there, there were both sides. Right? My true self was like hello, you're a spiritual teacher. What are you doing? You've always been like that. You know, I have stories of just massive awakening experiences. And many of them happened when I was a little kid, you know? So it's not, it's not as if, and there's no right way. Right. But it's not like I woke up in my late twenties. Like I knew what I was here to do when I was eight years old. That was also devastating for me because I, then I spent many years wanting to fit in and because what do you do? You know, like, I didn't know what to do. And I'm so grateful for all of it. I wouldn't change a thing now because I just learned the way I needed to learn, you know?

Speaker 2 (31:13):

But yeah, that was, it was wild. I remember, I remember like seeing myself not, not choosing me. And I think when we do that long enough, what happens is we become very self-centered, which is funny. Right. Because it feels like the opposite because then there, I was like, all I could see was myself and my bills and all my gosh, where am I with all of this? And it became such a, that's a very kind of like narcissistic place. And not to say that I, I don't know that that's quite the right word, but it was like, it's a very self absorbed place to live. And I don't judge myself. I have a lot of trauma in my past as well. I was working through a lot of it. I was very aware I was doing my work. I was meditating every day. Like I, I think that I did a good job, you know, but also it's interesting to see that I could have just kept being all about me and what was right in front of me.

Speaker 2 (32:14):

And, oh my gosh, like, you know, scarcity is, is that it's not like, oh my gosh, we should feel bad about how we got there. Not at all. You know, we wake up to it one day and go, oh yeah, I don't really want to think about myself anymore. Like I just got to that place where I was like, I'm kinda done. I'm kinda done with the victim story. Like, I'm tired. Like I'm tired of being the, that I can't, you know, go travel or do the things other people are doing. I like got sick of my story and living out the patterns of the past

Speaker 1 (32:54):

So much good stuff. All right. Let me ask you this. If you were to pick the, the or the princess as an archetype to look through the lens of your life, what can you, what do you, what do you see there? Cause I mean, I know, I see a whole thing. I see a whole high vibe, low vibe, hot, you know, I see the whole thing. What do you see if you could pick one? What's the one that like is either, has either been the most challenging for you or the most vulnerable for you or what's the one that stands out. I want to dive in.

Speaker 2 (33:31):

Oh, it's such a great question because they all have a place, you know, they all, I feel them all energetically, I would say I've never, I don't have any energy on princess. Cause that was never a word that it came up for me or that came up in my family or anything, you know? Definitely and sled. I'm like, Hey yes, please. Both of those for sure. I'm trying to see like, which one do I want to dive into?

Speaker 1 (34:03):

And really be connected to, you know, there's such a interwoven this. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (34:10):

Yeah. But you know, for me, for me personally, you know, sort of like the nasty mean if I'm thinking about why w when I've been called that or whatever, you know, which is so funny, it's only been like once or twice, but it has happened. And then sled, sled has more energy on it for me. And I think I know why, like, thank you for letting me talk that out. I was like, I need to, like, that's how I roll, you know, as, as Gemini is where like lab, blah, blah, always needing to talk through everything. So, you know, instantly what it makes me think of. Well, I'll tell you, I'll be very transparent. The first thing I think of is man, why didn't I have a phase? Like, that's what I'm wondering. No, really like, that's what, I'm a little bit like, did I miss the boat on that?

Speaker 2 (35:03):

And I think yes and no it's nuanced and I don't need to get into that. Right. The second I can always go there. Like it's, I'm single. Why not? Like I could always have that phase if I really felt like that was right. I know I could create that because I'm very powerful. But what I think even more importantly, when I look at this as an archetype and I look at it in relationship to what you've, you've been sharing, like the shadow and the gift and, and really those are the same things, right? It's like frequencies of things, spectrums of things. And we don't really have one without the other. It's a fullness of expression. What it makes me think about is the journey of, of women in the, in the eyes of the patriarch, in the eyes of what I should say, not even the patriarch, but the low, like the low masculine gaze.

Speaker 2 (36:05):

That's what it makes me think about. And in my own life, what that has looked like very specifically has been what I've noticed in the cap. So I grew up Catholic going to church every Sunday. My parents, you know, each of them had a different way with the Catholic church. My dad was way more conservative and my mom was way more liberal, but they both agreed on raising their children Catholic. So we spent a lot of time there and something I didn't as a child. I loved it by the way. I love the rituals. I love the songs. I love the prayers. I was very committed. I love the angels. I love Jesus. Like Mary Magdalene, all of it. Like the saints, I was super into it. You can imagine me as like six, right. And I wanted to like, be this a Saint and follow Jesus. Like that was so exciting to me. Like, yes. Okay. 

Speaker 1 (37:00):

I just had a visual, I just had this picture of you in your, in your little white communion dress. It just got it, like with the veil

Speaker 2 (37:07):

And everything. I had that with a veil and a big poofy bow on the top. And then I also was confirmed. I was also confirmed. That was actually last moment. That was my last moment in a Catholic church. I think I was confirmed. And then I stepped out of the entire thing. I think I was 16 years old. And I basically went home so funny. This is so reoccurring. Now that I'm saying this out loud, like I went home and I sat my family down and I was like, this is why this doesn't work. People. Like we had a moment and then nobody went to church anymore. Like, that's what, like I'm 16 and I just created that. Okay. That's interesting. You know, it's kind of interesting. It's funny how I want to have these sit downs with like my authority figures. That's a thing I'm just noticing. It's a reoccurring theme in my life. Let me just tell you why this doesn't work. That's what I do. Okay. I

Speaker 1 (38:04):

Love that. I love that.

Speaker 2 (38:08):

Yeah. It's certainly an interesting choice. And in, in has created a very, what's the word life that there's a lot of fascinating experiences and conversations. So the, the, the slept thing is interesting in Catholicism because what I noticed is the shadow or the, the low masculine within that container often. And I only say this from knowing like relatives that are men that grew up in the Catholic church, that, that men often see women and maybe by no fault of their own, or at least on some part, this is an, a conditioned thing as like either the, which is kind of funny that we think Mary Magdalene is, this makes no sense. Right. But th the sled or the, or the, I don't know, well, I don't even think it's goddess. It's like mother or the mother, the revered mother, the better than mother, the mother that we must like kowtows to.

Speaker 2 (39:17):

Right. And that is so detrimental if those are the two expressions yeah. Of a woman and, and the rest is sort of blurry, you know, and that's what, I mean, what that's heartbreaking to me, you know, but I've noticed that I've attracted the energy of one or both of those things, which in a relationship is strange. It is. I realized that, that, like I woke up to it, you know, in a, in a relationship where I was living with a man and I realized like, oh, you know, like, this is the projection is, is he sees me as either like the, you know, like we can just like one and done, we'll get it. You know, we're going to sleep together. And it's like that. Or it's like, oh, the mother who takes care of everyone and has all the house together and everything is like, perfect.

Speaker 2 (40:13):

And she's done touchable, the mother's untouchable. You can't have sex with that. That dichotomy I just noticed. Right. I've noticed it. And I've noticed how that has been my own. Like waking up to that within myself as well, you know, like, oh, I'm only good for these two things here I am right now as a 35 year old single woman, really not either of those, I'm not really or, or a mother right now. Like I'm not exercising either one of those parts that I could, you know, if I want it to. And, and I feel really good about that. Like, I feel good in my body is what I mean, like, I'm just not in either of those places, but at one time in my life, I really thought I had no identity unless I was so I didn't understand how to be a because I never, I was never great at that.

Speaker 2 (41:16):

Like anyway, you know, I was a little afraid and growing up in the Catholic church, certainly a lot of times you have one or the other, and I was more the like, whoa, I'm not sure what to do with that energy, you know? Or are you like go the other? And there is a part of me. That's like, man, I wish I chose the other route, but I didn't, I didn't know how, like, I was just very kind of shut down. I would say my sexuality was very shut down for a very long time. And then the mother thing was never, I love kids. I I'm, I'm great at the role, but I just, it was never my priority. So then I was just like, what, who am I? Who am I, you know, isn't that kind of, yeah. It's interesting. Yeah.

Speaker 1 (42:06):

So, so it's interesting that you, as you're, as you're staring this kind of what I would call, like the, the, the ends of the spectrum, the, the mother, I'm like, well, I currently am both, right? Like I actually am a mother and also a. So, and which is, which is kind of my point, like, do you feel that, that, that fee, what I'm getting is this feeling, excuse me, this feeling of like, having to choose, like, I can't be this and I, and I can't be this because if I'm this, it negates this or it, it tarnishes this. And if I'm this, then I can't be this either. So how's that, how, if that's, if that's the essence or feeling of what you're, what you're describing was your relationship with this. What's the how to rectify this or reclaim this, or, you know, what's the, what can we do?

Speaker 2 (43:06):

Yeah. I mean, now I don't really care about those. You know, I don't really have energy on it. Like I used to, it was really helpful. Those archetypes to see it, you know, like, oh, okay. This might be part of my issue is what you're saying. Like, I want to fit into one of these, but I don't fit into either one. I also think, you know, there's also an issue with identity, but we don't need, we don't need to necessarily get into that meaning personality, identity. I think we can get stuck trying to be identifiable. And then that also can be unsatisfying because at the end of the day, we're so much more than that than our ego, our personality self, and not to say it's not important. It is it's, it can be vastly important for us to find this language for ourselves, you know?

Speaker 2 (43:58):

But now it's like for, for me personally, yes, definitely seeing that. It's all one thing, right? It's all one. It's not, it's not one or the other, it's, it's a full experience. And I just don't have, at this point in my life, I've had enough of those experiences where I've just reckoned with myself, you know, and I've, I've, I've done the things where I get to love the. You know, I get to love the mother. And to be honest, I had to do the work to love those pieces because they are within me because every piece is within me, you know, and that really helps because when there's no energy on it, then it's like so much more fun, you know, so much more fun. Like, I can really appreciate the lessons that both of those archetypes are showing us, you know?

Speaker 1 (44:55):

Hmm. I want to ask you this one last, I'm not going to say it's my last question, but it could be this one last juicy bit. So I explained a little bit about the mystery school of intuitive, intuitive intelligence, and that I've been working with you and I'm in my second year with you. And I mean, it's just this magical, beautiful container of learning, how to create from this divine high feminine place, creating a business, which is, you know, masculine structures and all that. What do you see? Like I know when I relate, when you say I see five, 10, I see a little bit farther in the future. And I get really impatient. Like, no, I want to, I want to be there. But what do you see as like, as far as women reclaiming all the parts, as far as women reclaiming their, their, their, their princess, their whatever archetype resonates. What's the, what's the outcome like where what's possible in this, in, in doing this kind of work. What do you see?

Speaker 2 (46:00):

Oh my gosh. It's a great question. I mean, the truth is I see, I see what I see is more extraordinary than most people want to hear. That sounds weird, but I, I believe that it's time for us to vision really big to dream, really big to have faith in those visions, you know, and to let them be really big, I think we can diminish ourselves so easily, you know? But with that said, what I see is that I do see women kind of leading in the feminine, you know, really leading in and kind of everything because that's sort of the nature of how the pendulum swings in time. And I think what's really exciting is it also gets to be really different, you know, different as in remembering that the feminine, when it's in its fullest, expression is deeply committed to community is deeply committed to, like I said before, everyone has a place in this system, whether that system is the earth and humanity, or it's your household, right?

Speaker 2 (47:13):

That, that we, we are so big and bold and fierce and powerful and capable that no, we don't have to extricate anybody. Nobody has to be booted off the island, so to speak, you know? And what could it, could it be like to, to grow a business? Oh, this is really do you see? Okay, so this is what's coming forward right now. So I was just having this conversation with a friend where we were talking about how you simply can't and this is energy, right? You simply cannot remove the seed, the seed of energy that something is initiated from, from that thing. So meaning no matter what, you know, no matter what that system is or becomes, however, it began matters. Right. So, however, so for me, in my business, for example, I definitely started my business from a place of hustle where I was terrified and I had to work through a lot of things.

Speaker 2 (48:25):

Right. And so it's very different now, but because I started that way and I've journeyed from that place, I, I will find myself back there and, and able to teach from that place too. Right. Which is really, it's really cool because we've allowed the energy to continue to transform. I think a lot of times in systems, we, we might want to ignore the place where something started and pretend like it didn't start in that place. And I think that's what can be really, really challenging. So I say that because all of that, to say that we can start things from a feminine place right now, it doesn't, it it's not perfect. Right. But we can start something. Or even as you have, like, we can develop something into alignment, into a place that feels easier and that you can flow and you can allow things to come to you.

Speaker 2 (49:33):

Like you actually get to have the experience that what you're creating is imperative. So it's not hard to hear it. The only hard part is when we say like, I have 50,000 things to do, or this is never going to happen. Well, that's what you're going to create. You know? So a lot of what we do is slow down and listen and be still because we get to realize like, wow, okay. So if I trust myself and I trust that there's some beauty and magic and mystery to this that I can lean into. So whatever you believe, I'm not saying, you know, you don't have to believe in God or goddess or love or universe or life force energy. It's like, whatever language you want to put to it, the connectedness of all things, you know, that, which keeps us moving into our, our growth and expansion. I think we're just at this massive opportunity of trust. Like what if we could trust that? And that's where that's also where we see so much, like turning away from this to like, no, I'm not going to trust that. And it's like, well, yeah. I mean, that's the opportunity. It's the risk. It takes courage, you know, but really what would it be like to create from a place that felt easy because that's not, we're definitely not taught that, you know?

Speaker 1 (51:05):

Yeah, no, that's, that's what I was. You know what you said? You said that, and it triggered the conversation. It's your triggered the memory of the conversation that you and I had. And I quite literally remember you saying, what, if this could be easy? And I was like, sign me up because I had been doing it the way I had learned and been taught hustle, grind, go drive, like drive yourself into the ground. And I had driven myself sick multiple times, sick or injured multiple times. I know you relate. And so I heard you say that. And I was like, that was exactly what had me step into the mystery school, because I was like, I CA I, I w I'm unwilling to continue to do this. It's affecting my marriage. It's affecting my physical health. It's affecting my, when you said, like the keys, I'm like the keys, like the drop, the keys, like I'm done, I'm done with the hustle.

Speaker 1 (52:00):

So thank you for that, because that really is it. That really is everything. And that is I'll, I'll, I'll be honest. Like I have been doing some deconditioning, like deconditioning, like, is that the truth? I don't know if it is, maybe I can rewrite the truth, you know, so, and you know, I could talk to you about this all day long. All I can cause it's it's, this is our jam. This is my happy place. And it is time for us to wrap it up. I will say that you, without me remembering this, you are offering your soul energetics, which is healing the masculine and feminine within our own soul. So as one of, you know, as a free gift, for those of you listening, the Christina's Christina's gift to anyone listening, his or her soul energetics, and this is, this includes the, the low masculine high, high, high masculine chart. Right. I, I love that. I love that so much.

Speaker 2 (53:07):

Well, I think that's why we started giving it away because you loved it. So I just thought, yeah, interesting. Because

Speaker 1 (53:16):

I was like, this I'm very visual. I also, I also like to be like, I, when I see things, they make sense and it so deeply with me that I didn't have to reject the parts of me that were in the low, right. That in the low frequency, the low vibration, that part of my life of having, you know, feeling like I have to fix this, I have to let this go. I have to just the, just the energy of fixing something or hiding it or denying it or shoving it away, like, oh, okay. I just get to be aware when it's operating. So having that was such a great visual. So thank you for offering that for the listeners. And then, I don't know if you remember what you, you said your favorite quote is, but I can remind you your favorite quote.

Speaker 2 (54:06):

I love you too going. Oh yeah. That's my is, yeah. And our sister Doina said that to us recently and I go back to it all the time because it takes it like diffuses the energy of anything. Because if, what is, is, then everything is manageable. That's also a quote from ISA Guzzardi, who was my shamonic and energy teacher for many years. Everything is manageable, you know, that's what she taught me when I took her Buddhist psychology class. It's like, ah, thank you. Like breathing is manageable measure off. Exactly. Yeah. And what is, is it's like, it's also, I mean, I, we don't need to get into this too much right now, but I know you and I both loved the gene keys. Right. And studying the gene keys. And if you don't know what that is, don't worry. Look it up if you're curious, but I'm sure at some point you'll be talking more about this Christine. Cause it's so fun. But one of the things like Richard says is everything is natural, which is sort of another way of saying this too. Like, anything that it has come about is natural because it's here. But it is.

Speaker 1 (55:37):

I think, I think about how healing, how healing that would be for just someone to get. And I say, this often, you can't it up like that, that lands for me, like in my early life, it was like, if I make the wrong choice, if I do the wrong thing, it was like this high, high pressure getting it right. You know, all of it and how much that just, just crushed me. Like it just crushed any level of enjoyment or fulfillment or even just being present. And when I tell people like, listen, you can't it up. Like you just, it is it it like, what is is, I love that. I love, I love that. Love this whole conversation. I love you. I appreciate you. And I know, you know, this, they tell you all the time, thank you for bending and contorting and twisting and transforming yourself into whatever, wherever you need to go so that you may serve people like me and people like, you know, people who come into the mystery school. So I honor you. I Revere you. I love you. And thank you for being here and talking about all this juicy stuff.

Speaker 2 (56:49):

Thank you, Kristin. I love you dearly. Thanks for having me.

Speaker 1 (56:54):

Absolutely. All right. So to get Christina's free gift, it will be in the description of this podcast. The link will be there and 12 circles of 12. I'll just say this 12 circles of 12. So the number 12 1, 2 circles. Oh, F the number twelve.com is the website for, for you and your work and your programs, correct?

Speaker 2 (57:15):

That is it. Yep. Yay. Right.

Speaker 1 (57:19):

Thank you. Thank you. Love you and guys, we will see you and hear from you and talk to you next time. Bye.