Stop Refrigerating Pain: Don’t Thaw It Out, Throw It Out!

Stop Refrigerating Pain 

Don’t Thaw It Out, Throw It Out!

When you grow accustomed to pain, you believe that it’s a part of your diet, your routine, which becomes who you are. 

Are you teaching your children that pain and suffering is a family tradition?

Unhappiness has caused you to refrigerate pain. 

Unhappiness is a serial killer! 

Unhappiness kills everything you once desired in YHWH including the family you prayed for YHWH to give you.

Stop going back on your experience with YHWH!

If you don’t build on YHWH moments, you lose them.

Ask yourself: 

What you got deliver from, you should never go back to!

What is your healing power?

What is your pathway to healing?

What is your healing language to you from you?

When you hear, “Heal forward” what does that mean to you?

Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

And welcome to the lyricism of life. I'm your host, Apostle PastaPastha, aka the Lyrical Apostle. Welcome everyone to the Lyricism of Life. Please come on in. Come on in. Get someone to tell someone to tell someone else to come and journey with us. Welcome, welcome, welcome. Come on in, come on in, come on in. We missed you guys last week, but we're back this week with a very powerful subject. So come on in. Please share the live. Definitely share the live to get someone to come on and journey with us today. We have a very, very, very powerful show lined up for you tonight. And we're looking forward to diving right on in. So hope everybody is staying hydrated. It is terribly hot outside. If you didn't have to be outside, I hope and pray that you were not. But regardless, stay hydrated, whatever you have to do. Shalom everyone. Shalom. Love you guys. Thanks for joining. It is a blessing. I want to thank all of our supporters, whether you join one time, whether you joined two times, or whether you tune in with us every week. We appreciate the support and we thank you for sharing with others and inviting others to come to the show. So come on in and let's get started. We're gonna really dive into some very, very, very powerful subject matters tonight because it's time for everyone to heal forward. And when you heal forward, first meditate on what that means to you because everybody's journey of healing is different. But you want to take the time out and you want to find out what is your pathway to healing. And if you're not healing, you have to ask yourself why you're not healing. So we want to talk about some of those things tonight, just to, you know, reiterate how it's important for us to be strong, how it's important for us to just really take into consideration how it is necessary to heal. It's necessary to heal, and it is important, it is imperative that we heal because we have loved ones who depend on us as well. And those of us who are in charge of others, whether we have a leadership role, whether we're heading our families, whatever the case may be, it is imperative that you walk in the best you possible. And how do you do that? You do that by walking in healing, you do that by walking in honesty, you do that by walking in love. So we want to talk about a lot of that tonight, just to, you know, strengthen someone, to encourage someone, because you never know who may need to hear certain things. And so you have to be able to be transparent and just, you know, talk about things that are sometimes not comfortable, but is necessary. So welcome, welcome, welcome. Come on in. It's the lyricism of life. We are back live tonight, and it is hot. So I'm waiting for the bishop to sign in. Have not seen him. Have you seen him? Tell me, have you seen him? I don't know, the bishop is late. So, but please get someone to come on with us. Oh, here he is. Well, your head look well, get your glasses so you can look like Spider-Man behind you.

SPEAKER_00 3:53

Oh, I don't I don't have my glasses. Hey babe, how you doing? Good, how you doing? Hey, I I'm hoping this works. We've been banned from Instagram. Talk about it too much. Yeah, well, so I'm hoping this works and so forth.

SPEAKER_02 4:11

What's the subject? Well, tonight the subject is stop refrigerating pain, don't thaw it out, throw it out. Talking about healing forward, talking about healing forward. Why is there an echo?

SPEAKER_00 4:27

I don't hear an echo.

SPEAKER_02 4:30

It's like I can hear me.

SPEAKER_00 4:33

I think uh you need to uh get to work. I can't. I don't hear no echo.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

So so so when you refrigerate pain, what is that? Refrigerating pain means that you're holding on to it. You know how people they know they really don't need something, but they put it in the refrigerator anyway and saying we'll come back to the city.

SPEAKER_00 4:59

Oh, oh listen, there you go. Leftover pain. Leftover pain. So in order to refrigerate it, you gotta keep that pain fresh. Leftover pain. And that's uh why was the pain? You just skipped. You beep, you did that. You just skipped. Hey, you froze again. Is your bad internet you froze again? I'm frozen now. No, not now. But anyway. Don't worry about the internet, you guys. Talk. Go ahead. I but I missed what you were saying. You're saying um leftover pain?

SPEAKER_02 5:45

Yes, I said what has to really be thought about is why would someone save pain?

SPEAKER_00 5:52

Because hey, people save pain because they save bad memories. Right. Now, some bad memories can be for education, knowledge, but when you make it present, you can totally relive the moment, you know, and so forth. But the thing is, in any relationship, there has to be any continual relationship. There has to be healing. There has to be healing, and there has to be there has to be forgiveness. That's that's uh that's a must. So how did you come up with this subject?

SPEAKER_02 6:34

Well, I was speaking with Pastor Chisa earlier, actually was last week, and we were having a very good conversation, and we were talking about healing forward. And it's like, why not just allow Yahweh to heal? Like, stop holding on to it. Like, why are you saving some pain for the next time? Like, why are you holding on to it? It's like refrigerating pain. And it was like, wow, you know, you think about that, and you're like, we actually do that. Hold on to pain, but to stop and think about why do we do that? It's like, no, when deliverance is there and when true healing is there, you have to take advantage of that. Otherwise, you'll go in that circle and you'll just keep moving in that pain. You'll keep going back to that refrigerated pain, pulling out a little piece here, a little piece there, complaining about it here, complaining about it there, and it doesn't go away. It's like you just keep holding on to it. But you have to get to the reasons why you hold on to it and then decide when you have to let it go, which is at that moment.

SPEAKER_00 7:38

It's gonna ask you why do you why do you think people refrigerate pain?

SPEAKER_02 7:44

I think it the people become accustomed to pain, it becomes a part of them because they have held it for so long. And it's another case where pain could have been passed down to them. They could have lived through pain their entire life, but depending on how they were raised. And so some people view holding on to pain as a strength. In other words, they're like, I'm not gonna run from this. But you're not running from it when you when you free yourself of it. That's not running from it, that's getting healed.

SPEAKER_00 8:19

Like, listen to this. I just thought about something. But is there a such thing called justifiable pain?

SPEAKER_02 8:28

There is justifiable pain because some things are gonna hurt you. But if you keep reliving it, it's not healthy. It's not healthy to just keep constantly meditating on what hurt you or who hurt you. That's why we have a savior to deliver us from that or to heal us from that, things that we don't have control over. And there are some things that you go through that you're going to hurt from. That's that's that's a fact. But should you live your life in pain when there is a healing available to you? No.

SPEAKER_00 9:05

Well, what I was thinking about was this, and it's powerful, yes, there is justifiable justifiable pain, but you don't have to refrigerate that pain. And what I can equate it to is when I give my testimony about when I tried to kill myself, there's no pain in that. Right. When I give my testimony about my dad, some of his shortcomings, and even the hell that he put my family through, there's no pain in that. There is no there is no pain in anything that has a good ending. Wow. There should be there should be no pain in a testimony.

unknown 10:00

Right.

SPEAKER_00 10:00

A testimony of of Yahshua. Excuse me, because he takes you from that negative to that to that positive. When I talk about the night when I tried to take my life, there's no pain in that. When I talk about how the doctors said that uh I couldn't have children, there's no pain in that. There was pain at that moment. There's not pain in the testimony. Right. There's not pain in the in the testimony because twofold, you know the end result. Don't take it the wrong way. Yahshua, he died for our sins. I mean, we don't revel in the pain by his stripes, we're healed. We're like, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He was beat. No. We glory in the in the fact that that justifiable pain brought about a deliverance. But it's it's a good ending. I think, especially in every healthy relationship, you can't keep revisiting a deadly argument. You can't keep revisiting something that can can can can rip you apart. When I think about raising our our daughters, there's no there's no pain, even though there were some challenging moments. So it's very important when you refrigerate pain, you're stuck in that moment. And you can't move forward. Not in marriage, not in friendship, not in parenting. You can't be you can't be stuck. Actually, when you really mature, there's certain things that at the time it took place, it was pain. But when you talk about it, there's laughter. You know, there's laughter. So it's very important not to harbor that pain. When the Hebrews were delivered from Kemet, they're not told to constantly hate the people of Kemet or hate the people. No. They're told to remember Yahweh delivered you. He delivered you from uh enslavement. He delivered you, he said he set you set you free, and so forth. Even in even in in sports, you know, it might have taken a lot of pain to prepare, a lot of pain in the game, but once you win, once you've done something great, you you you revel it, and it was worth it. So it's very important in order to be healthy, not to refrigerate pain, not to totally relive that pain. It's like we reliving an argument.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Now, I will say that there are emotional attachments to certain things, and I think that that's okay as long as you're not living in the pain of it. And when I say emotional attachment, what made me think about that is when I often minister about burying my father, there's an emotional attachment there because it's I still can't believe that Yahweh showed up for me when I wasn't showing up for Yahweh, you know? And that is like there was pain at the time, but I disconnected from pain, but I still have an emotional attachment to the healing that took place, you know, and it's like that's where we should be. We it's a it's a journey. You should go from pain to healing. But some people get stuck at the from moment. They get caught in between from and never get to to because they're constantly reliving pain. What? That's powerful.

SPEAKER_00 14:00

I'm just saying I never heard you cry over fact, like, you know, man, I wish Larry would have seen my girls. I wish Larry would have seen the graduate and so forth. So I mean.

SPEAKER_02 14:10

No, I don't. I mean, you know, I never really have pain.

SPEAKER_00 14:22

Oh yeah. And when you when you talk about your book and you talk about, you know, the funeral.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

Why are you laughing?

SPEAKER_00 14:34

Because I mean it blessed me, but I feel like Larry's here and he's laughing too. So he is here. Yes. But that's powerful because even my mom, my dad, you know, I I if if I do have some sadness, it's sadness of joy. You know, because I always said my mom doesn't belong here now, my dad doesn't belong here now, and so forth. But it's very important not to refrigerate any negative thing and keep it alive. You know, you need closure. And what is closure? Closure is either it being fixed or being given the confidence, everything's gonna work out and everything's gonna be good. Everything's gonna work out and everything's gonna be good.

SPEAKER_02 15:29

You know? You have to confront it to get to that. Oh, you have to. You gotta confront it. If you don't confront what's causing you pain, you'll just keep reliving it.

SPEAKER_00 15:39

It's almost like pain you were tempted to refrigerate.

SPEAKER_02 15:51

I would say when I had some missteps at the Mayor Tony Voss event, I would say that was very painful.

SPEAKER_00 16:01

Because give me a minute, run that back, give me a minute, run that back.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

Yeah, because when when you're when you're used to doing something that you take pride in, and then you're you're being challenged by something like in memory, that's that's devastating. Especially. No.

SPEAKER_00 16:24

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 16:25

No. What made you say that?

SPEAKER_00 16:27

Because you had said there are certain times like that, you like to go to a go-to song when I was saying, No, we should come up with something new. And the thing was this is America. Very powerful. Very powerful rap.

SPEAKER_02 16:44

Yeah. No, I think when you when you experience something like that, you have to you have to plan that better. You mean in the person. So I never I never blame anybody for anything because I feel like I feel you blame me sometimes, but go ahead. What? Tell me what I blame you for. Kids, uh you whatever I blame you for, trust me, is legitimate.

SPEAKER_00 17:14

It's legitimate. You blame me. You blame me.

SPEAKER_02 17:16

Yeah, I blame you for kids because you're afraid of them.

SPEAKER_00 17:20

I believe, well, oh, how you.

SPEAKER_02 17:31

It's like, it's like, babe, well, who left that there? I'm like, they're all right here. Just ask them.

SPEAKER_00 17:39

The the the the thing is, uh, for me, I refuse to, I just refuse to take anything negative into my next moment. And because of that, I I want to meditate on the solution. I want to meditate on the outcome. Right. I want to move forward. That's that's where I get my strength from. And moving forward is forgiveness, moving forward is grace, moving forward is mercy. Moving forward is being healthy. And I've seen many, many mighty people in Christ become destroyed because of one unhealthy thought. And that one unhealthy thought brings in all types of all types of warfare, you know? So with me, I I think the most disappointing thing in ministry was back in 1998. I think it was 1998. I think it was 98. We had set up a praise fest. And that was at a Monty Baptist church. And it didn't work out any any way that because we had set it up where we're gonna sell tapes. We had Joshua Nelson at that time. Joshua Nelson was really big, had big lights out. But that was one of the moments I had to really, really make a comeback in uh in ministry. You know, we we had set it up, we didn't sell not one tape. You know, we had uh Jason Summers from there, who's gonna do the tapes, every everything just fell apart. But you have to make the decision and the and the choice. I'm coming back from this. You know, and look, it and uh wow, that was that was uh 20 years ago, you know.

SPEAKER_02 19:37

Yeah, so could you imagine, but can you imagine if you refrigerated that? You would not have moved forward, you wouldn't have moved forward. It would have just been a constant reminder, I can't do this again because it's just gonna be a big letdown. It's just gonna be a big disappointment.

SPEAKER_00 19:55

And it's true, it's true like that in relationship. In relationship, you have to know what to let go, you know? And what's so deep about that is in in engineering school, if you're constantly working on a problem that you can't get, you have to walk away from it. Even when I was in the computer field, you have to walk away from it and then come back. You know? It's like when you walk away, you come back, you see things differently. That's also uh true about a chessboard, too. Sometimes you you you take a moment, walk away, come back, you'll see things differently. But it's very important not to be stuck in that moment, especially if that moment is defined as a hurt, a pain, or failure. Because the enemy will like to keep bringing you back to that moment. And what I meditate on, and one of the key things, you know, when a person is not healthy, because they don't want to be around happy people. And when someone doesn't want to be around happy people, they're harboring the wrong thoughts. It's amazing how people will flee happiness, you know, they'll flee happiness because they have more comfort in chaos or more comfort in doubt. But if you have more comfort in chaos or doubt, you're harboring the wrong thing, refrigerating the wrong thing.

SPEAKER_02 21:37

You know, unhappiness is a serial killer because unhappiness, if you're unhappy and you come into a a space where they're happy people, you look to suck out all of the happiness in the room. It's like it's like They're happy, you know. But it's like, but you have the opportunity to be happy too. It's a choice that you're choosing to be unhappy.

SPEAKER_00 22:08

But what is but what is happiness? Happiness is embracing your noun and sharing it with others. But you can't share your happiness with someone if you feel as if they're unworthy, unworthy of your time, unworthy of your presence. I've been meditating uh all this week. And I I mean it didn't write any notes for that, but I've been meditating. I think I did, because I did a little bit of video. I've been meditate on how rich I am. I am I'm I'm rich because I have I have priceless things. And what is it that's priceless? The priceless things are relationships. Relationships are priceless. You can't put a value in that. But there's so many people that can't enter into relationships because they are refrigerating pain, they're refrigerating a hurt. And let's be for real, you know, there's some people you they can come to a place, you don't even want to hear good news from Christ because it doesn't make a difference. What he says to you is unbelievable. Wow. You know. But right now, I see people will find a reason to be busy not to be around happy people. And that's that's not healthy because once again, something else is is is is taking place. You know? There's something wrong when you are lonely in the midst of family.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 23:48

Right. Wow. When you're lonely in the midst of family. It doesn't make a difference who you are or what your social status is within relationships. People who are single want to get married. People who are married, they either want to get free or peace. But in all relationships, you have to navigate and you have to handle your way through that relationship. Because through every relationship, there's ups and downs, and you gotta be determined not to refrigerate something that uh that should die.

SPEAKER_02 24:37

I think too, you gotta meditate on what is your what is your healing language. In other words, sometimes we always have we we will have healing language for other people. Well, what is your healing language for you? You know, when you're down, when you're out. The word teaches us that David encouraged himself in Yahweh.

SPEAKER_00 25:02

Uh uh. How do you encourage yourself? Uh, you're looking down on your paper there. You wrote that down?

SPEAKER_02 25:08

No, I didn't I didn't write that down. So why are you looking down? Because I'm just gathering my thoughts, if you don't mind. So you look down? You mean to show you my book? Do you not believe what I just said?

SPEAKER_00 25:23

No, you said you wasn't writing anything in your book.

SPEAKER_02 25:26

I'm not writing anything. I didn't write down that that David encouraged himself in Yahweh.

SPEAKER_00 25:32

Oh, you just got that from the Holy Spirit, huh? It is exactly follow up. Follow the follow the story. Hey, let's stick with the story. David encouraged himself in Yahweh after great disappointment and after his crew wanted to kill him. That's very hard to do.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

That's very hard to do. But he did it because guess what? That was his only out. Like, he didn't want to, he didn't want to remove it. That's his only out. So it's like, what else is there? Either I'm just gonna crumble or die in this in this grief, in this pain, or I'm going to encourage myself in he who can remove this pain. I was meditating on how people will have a Yahweh moment, but they won't build on that moment. As soon as you you leave, you lose the moment because it's almost as if it slipped right through your hands. Like Yahweh will give you a powerful deliverance, a moment of truth, a moment of freedom. You'll walk away, and then you'll Satan will talk to you and call you to doubt. Everything that just happened. And then in that instant, if you give over to that doubt, you lose a Yahweh moment. And it's like, wow, like how much is a Yahweh moment worth to you? Priceless. A Yahweh moment should be priceless, priceless, but it's not to everybody, and it's like you can't put a value on it. You can't put a value on a moment with Yahweh or Yahweh.

SPEAKER_00 27:02

What you had said the other day to me, there are a lot of ministers and ministries that respect me because I was not privy to things. I was not privy to what was taking place with Governor Murphy. I was not privy with what was taking place in Trenton, and I wasn't privy in certain things that wasn't taking place at the University Hospital. But the prophecies were pinpoint. Right. The prophecies were not only were the prophecies pinpoint, I now know that everybody in power were watching those videos. Because it was like, where is he getting this information? It produced, it produced a Yahweh fear. Yes. And let's just be blunt. That's why Reverend Dr. Green shows the reverence, and that's why he says what he says. Right. Uh, and so forth. But now looking back, you knew, we know, all of Trenton was being shaken. That was a pinnacle point. And all of New Jersey was paying attention. Yes. And I think that's what really motivates me today. Right. Is when you hear from Yahweh, don't look to the left or right. That that was pinpoint. Actually, that was the the height of our Facebook ministry. We've never had a Facebook ministry like that since then. So but very, very pinpoint. So I know that Yahweh's doing great mighty things, but that's why people have got to submit to Yahweh and submit to what to what to what he's doing within their lives and within relationships. Because to refrigerate pain more than anything deals with relationships. Yes. Yes. More than anything deals with relationships.

SPEAKER_02 29:23

The problem with that, when you refrigerate pain and you don't talk about relationships, you reach back in there, and now you want to share that pain in your relationship. So now it's like, hey, remember this? Or we never got healed from this. And it's like, okay, so have your healing moment. In other words, discuss whatever you have to discuss, but then heal forward. Do not just keep going back to the same pain that causes a division in your relationship, that causes a division in other relationships connected to your relationship. It's almost like it's a boomerang effect. Like, you know, you you you throw it, it's sniping people, and then it comes back to you, and you're still in pain. You know, and it's like it's not worth it. Pain is just holding on to stuff.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Well, I get same pain, same pain, same failure. Life is too short to relive the same failure. You should learn from the failure, not relive it. You know, life is life is life is too short, I mean, to to relive the the same failure. And to me, that's where growth comes in. Don't say the wrong way, but you want to learn from your sin. You want to learn from your pain. Learn from your mistake, learn from your choices. You want to learn from those things. But think about it. It's not just refrigerating pain, it's refrigerating joy. You shouldn't go off of a past joy. Joy is something that needs to be present. Fresh bread is something that needs to be present. You can't go over the vic go live off the victory you had 10 years ago. Right. No, that's that's true. That's very true. It has to be a way of life. That has to be a lifestyle. Joy has to be a way of life. Shalom has to be a way of life. Right and so forth and so on. And it's amazing that certain moments will like to put you in the past, even right now, as clearly saying clean it up. And it's and it's not just clean it up, it's memories, toys, doll houses, things that I labored for. But it's almost a temptation to be sad, but then you can't be sad. Because no, my my little girls have grown up and become women. You know? They they've it they've there's there's a there's another there's another level of life that you have to proceed on. And you you're you're tempted. I want to hold on to this, but you you can't hold on to it because then it'd be unhealthy for for your adult children, you know, it'd be it'd be unhealthy, and so forth and so on. Right. And it's I mean, it's just amazing. It it's it's amazing that you know, we took our kids to, you know, torture us, and now it's it's it's the mole, you know, but you could refrigerate that joy where it is unhealthy, where it'll make you sad. You can't you can't make your your kids become kids again. It's think about it, it's unhealthy, but some people can get in any moment stuck in the past, you could become lonely. Wow, wow. Here it is. I'm I'm I'm I'm in the house with with with all of you, but if I get stuck in a moment, hey, like I, you know, you know, I mean, anyway, I was asking Kai certain things, and Kai's like, what? Throw that out. And then and then and then, you know, looking at um I I ran into Elsa. She's dirty and and unkept and left down there and mildew. But Elsa went to pre-K with her. She went to school with her every day. She went to school with her every day. And now it's like, what? Give it to her. And I and I'm not getting rid of her. You know what I'm saying? Because I'm not getting rid of her because I remember why are you taking that dirty dollar school? But it brought back memories, but in the same token, you have you have to you gotta move on. At least washer. Yeah, I don't know if that's gonna help. Then then Tatiana accusing me of throwing away uh her artwork. And you know, once Tatiana gets mad, no, I'm then I'm getting mad because I know I didn't. And then she's like, you threw away my stuff, blah, blah, blah. And then she found it. You know? I mean, because I used to have all my artwork and I lost it from 294 South Clinton Street. I used to keep it in the basement at the bottom step underneath the whatchamacallit. So I know how important it is for artwork. But but once again, I think people have to be honest about what you refrigerate and why you do it. What you refrigerate and why you do it. And where I am, I just I'm just totally caught up in what you sow is what you reap. So it's very important what I sow. It's a spiritual principle, it doesn't make a difference if you're good, bad. I'm very conscious of of of what I sow. And because I I know what I know what I want to get back. I know what I have to get back. Excuse me. So so it's very important not to refrigerate pain. And you you you learn very early it doesn't work in in in relationship. It doesn't work in relationship. When you hear hill forward, what do you think of? Life every day is a hilling process. Every every single day is is a is a hilling process. I could you you have a choice what you what you meditate on. Right now, you know, what we got good things to meditate on, and we got some things that's not so good. I mean, I could what what what I can't allow to happen with me, okay? I mean, just keeping it short and simple, okay. Why did my Jaguar break down after last year I spent $8,000 on it? Why did this happen? Why did this happen at this time? Why did Yahweh allow this to happen? This right here is a whole budget issue. But you can go into all these different whys. It's just not healthy. It's it it's uh it it's it's it's it's just not healthy. So you have to hill forward. Uh you you have to hill forward in in every area. I know my friend, uh David Reed, having seen him in while he retired, but he used to also be a UPS driver. I remember he told me how his house caught on fire. His daughter barely made out of it. Apostle Steve, his house caught on fire. It's like, hey, why did your houses catch on fire? Oh, Yahweh, I don't want my house to catch you on fire. You can go into all these things. Why, why, whoa, whoa. You have to heal forward. You have you have you have you have to pray for it. About Nolan, nice young man, 18 years old, lost his life, quote unquote, amongst friends. You you you pray, and as you pray for the family, you also hope and pray, Yahweh, please don't let this happen to me. But yet you know there's no guarantees that it can. You heal forward. You heal forward, and you you you pray the impossible miracle. And to me, the impossible miracle is that it doesn't happen, you know?

SPEAKER_02 38:01

Healing forward is mindset. Healing forward is all about mindset, it's all about mindset. And you have to you have to will yourself to have the mindset to heal forward. Yeah. Because not everybody is in agreement with their healing.

SPEAKER_00 38:17

Well, that's what kind of really commend Prophet is Jackie. And I mean, I mean, for her to be honest, that I'm a new person. I there's certain environments I don't belong in. There's certain circles I don't belong in. That that is that's that's that's beyond powerful, you know, because people who people who are outside of the anointing, people who are outside of Christ, they never deal with with that reality. I hey babe, you live that. You know, you used to sleep with your grandmother, but you didn't go to her funeral. You know, you couldn't, you know what I'm saying? I mean you you you you you you you you couldn't. And why couldn't you go? You couldn't go the same reason I didn't want people come popping up in my mother's funeral. I don't want anybody popping up at my mother's funeral who hasn't been in her in her life recently. Right.

SPEAKER_02 39:23

You make a you make a choice based on reality. Uh I think not, you know, too often people don't they don't live in realities, they live in the past. And did I love my grandmother? Yes, but I hadn't seen her in two years before she passed. No, it was two years. It was two years. How you knew? Huh? How you know? I remember why it was two years. It was a lot happened in those two years.

SPEAKER_00 39:54

Yeah, you see them rocking.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 39:57

I found my chair.

SPEAKER_02 39:59

I found my chair from Bloomfield. Yeah, I know you told me that. I guess you tell everybody else. But to to my point, when you refrigerate pain, are you okay? No, this thing itches. I told you that. Go ahead. I told you to cut it and you didn't. So you now you scratching like a fiend.

SPEAKER_00 40:22

Come on, don't don't do that, Larry. Larry, Larry, that's raw. That's raw, Larry, Larry.

SPEAKER_02 40:29

You got some you got some fiends in your family, but I ain't gonna say nothing.

SPEAKER_00 40:32

Okay, name one.

SPEAKER_02 40:33

Nope. But anyway, like I was saying, when you refrigerate pain, you live in the past. So you believe that you're supposed to go backwards to experience pain when you're not even presently in a person's life. You know what I'm saying? And I'm not saying that you're wishing death on anybody, anything like that. But the reality is you shouldn't disrespect someone by just showing up to stand over their body if you didn't have a relationship with them like that. And you're disrespecting their kids, you're disrespecting whoever did have a relationship with them. And it's almost like if someone said, What are you doing here? They have a right to say that. And what would your answer be? Well, I used to sleep with her when I was little. Like it's like, you know, so not trying to be funny, but it's it's just a reality that people refuse to live in. I'm not living in anybody's false reality.

SPEAKER_00 41:44

I remember one of the conversations I had with Prophet Jackie, and when people are honest, some people show up for a funeral, and a few moments later, everything goes right back to the same. So it's almost as if it's true. It's almost as if excuse me, you refrigerated the hurt, you refrigerated the pain, as soon as the funeral is over, everyone goes back to the same thing. Right. And that's sad, but that's that's what what takes takes place. And that's what kind of you you have to make the decision and the choice to be new. Anybody can hurt somebody. But the thing is, love when it is genuine, it's not just felt, but it's it's eternal. I still feel the love of my mother, I still feel the love of my father, I still feel the love of my grandparents. I still feel the love. I was really blessed on uh I believe it's Facebook. Someone put up a plate. Grandpa felt you saw that. Yes, and I was like, yeah. And but to to see that and to associate it was very powerful. And they said that this person had died and they were cleaning out the house, and that was there. And what even blessed me more when I went down the page, it seemed as as if it was a white family, which was even you know a blessing because you get to see the influence and and and so forth taking place. But it's very important. It's very important not to refrigerate bad memories. You know?

SPEAKER_02 43:50

I think um life is too short to just sit by and watch somebody die in pain.

SPEAKER_00 44:00

Especially when you have the power to impart. No, no, break that down what you said, because I I because when you say it, I just envision a person watching a person die. What do you what do you mean?

SPEAKER_02 44:12

In other words, if you have somebody dying before you, meaning you see their decline spiritually, you see their decline mentally, you see their decline physically, but you're not doing anything and this person is within your reach. This this person is within your sphere. Well, if the person pushes you away, then that's different. Because if someone denies you access, then all you can do is pray for them. But if you have influence with someone and you are watching them, and you're watching them die, if they receive you and you're just accepting what they've become, you know what I'm saying? Then that's you're accountable for that. You can be held accountable for that too. It's it's it's different. It's like, are you helping them to refrigerate pain? And if you are, why? What are you distracting them with by keeping them depressed? Or helping them to stay sad.

SPEAKER_00 45:10

What hurts me is I've seen people judge Apostle Ivan Avat, judge Porter, and then become him. Yeah. And here it is that uh, I mean, as Porter would say, through the hard way, myself, Apostle Steve, and him, and the name Yeshua, we prayed through, I mean, we worked 24-7. You know what I'm saying? All we did was pray and witness. Pray, witness, and teach. You know, we lived in assembly. But anyway, to make a long story short, here it is, through Apostle Ivan's ministry, I got my wife, through, which is you, through Apostle Ivan's ministry, Apostle Steve got his wife. Apostle Ivan was very instrumental in winning souls and changing lives. But before he left, he was lonely. And the very souls that he won, he could no longer communicate with. And then the very souls that he won outgrew him. Uh and when people outgrow you, what it means is that you're not growing with them. And what I always teach is that Apostle Ivan could always minister down, but he couldn't minister eye to eye. Wow. When people became his equal, he he felt that it was a threat. So, and feeling it was a threat, he began to isolate himself. And he was someone who was a mighty soul winner. He went from being a mighty soul winner to being alone. To being alone. I mean, you know, you could begin to see him isolate. In order for that to take place, you you you have to refrigerate the wrong things. Yes. You have to you have to think and harbor the wrong things. You know, right. And and and and and so forth. Very, very, very, you know, important. That's deep. Yeah. And people have to do that.

SPEAKER_02 47:34

But he stayed lonely and isolated because he didn't see a pathway to healing. If you don't see it, you can't see your way out of that, or if you can't even faith your way out of that, it's like you're gonna drown in it. You drown in isolation if you don't see a pathway to include yourself.

SPEAKER_00 47:58

But then again, like I said before, people will run away from happiness. They'll they'll they'll they'll run away. And that's where you have to be honest about yourself, honest about what you are refrigerating, what you are maintaining. Right. You have to be honest about that, you know? And and and I think that within itself is the the power of deliverance, and to me, it is it's the power of love. What I meditate all the time. If I'm not close to my son-in-law's, it will distance me from my grandchildren and my daughters. So this is something I I pray for all the time. Because what do I teach? I teach that my family is going to be an addition, not a subtraction. And I've seen what brings subtraction, you know, insecurities and and and and and things of that nature, you know. So this is I'm called to be a pauper, you know. I meditate on that, um, I meditate on that that day and night, you know, and I move forward. So it's very important. It's very important what you refrigerate. And what I can't refrigerate is pain. And it's amazing when you speak truths. I speak truths about America. I speak truths about the racism in America. And people like, oh, get over that. It's not about getting over it, it's about hilling through it. It goes back to what you said. I've been hilled through the whole process. It's it's hill is a constant process, especially when the nation hasn't changed. Right.

SPEAKER_02 49:48

They get over it and it's still the same. How are you gonna get over something that still exists?

SPEAKER_00 49:53

It's like for instance, if you were a bad cook, if you're a bad cook getting bad food, you can't get over it. Certain things you can't get over, you gotta fix. Right, right. You gotta fix it. It's no, think about it, it's real. Yes, it is, especially if if the person's impolite, you know? It's like, don't get over it, fix it, you know. I was telling my fighting six, well, what we were meditating on, is certain people are never gonna change. Certain people never, then they're never gonna want victory, they're never gonna want to be around strong people, right? But they have to be honest why they keep their circle. Yeah. They have to be honest why they keep their circle, right? And I I I have to, I'm not trying to brag or both, but I don't have a I don't have a circle of sin. I have a circle, uh Farrell told me something real powerful. He said, Well, I can't remember the exact words, but you can't be faithful without having people that keep you accountable. That's true. Yeah. So in order to be faithful, you need people to keep you accountable. So if you're afraid to have people in your life who are gonna keep you accountable, do you really want to be faithful? But that's why people choose their circles.

SPEAKER_02 51:22

Sneaky people choose sneaky circles. Sneaky circles. Unfaithful people choose the circles. Telling you sneaky snorkels, circles. Perverted people choose perverted circles. It's it you have to choose the people that you like. Like they're like, Why I can't be a pervert without getting sharpened by another pervert.

SPEAKER_00 51:51

You you're doing a play on that scripture, iron sharpens iron. You're saying pervert, perversion sharpens perversion.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

They're like, what? I can't be a pervert hanging around somebody strong. And and and it's true, you're not, because the person that's strong will not allow you to continue to walk in perversion. That's why people flee, because they don't want accountability. They want to be who they want to be. And it's like, hey, hey, hey, you better not be touching no kids around me. You know what I'm saying? And they can't can't be around somebody who don't play that. You think about that. It's like, no, if I knew someone who was into craziness like that, I would be calling that out. It's like, no, don't you better not touch no kid around me.

SPEAKER_00 52:37

I uh I I the person didn't show up Sunday, they went to jail Monday, you know?

SPEAKER_02 52:46

Yeah, that's a very powerful story, you know.

SPEAKER_00 52:50

Yeah, it has to be when you're dealing with uh innocent people. But that's another thing, and another word I'm working on. Certain people don't want to give up their flesh. But the the word says in Romans chapter 8, the flesh is enmity against Yahweh, nor is the flesh subject to Yahweh. So you have people who they refrigerate their flesh, you know, they keep they keep it alive, you know. It's almost like keeping it on life support. But that's where you have to have that honesty come in, where you where you where you say why, you know? And so, you know, I think me living out my 61st year, and I have I have a greater zeal, a greater energy. I was telling Boo when I spoke to her, crying out and praying, Yahweh, I'm in the earth. Use me. I'm here. You know, hallelujah. I'm here, use me to the fullest extent. You know, I really do glory in the fact that I am on a mission. I glory in the fact that my time on earth is limited, and I want to live every moment ordained by Yahweh. I don't want to, and it's amazing how that changes everything. Excuse me. It changes everything because I'm not in a rush for anything. I'm not in a rush to go to Oxford, I'm not in a rush to go to London. Actually, if anything, I want to slow it down. Right now, in the word of work on Eliezer, amen. Eliezer was sent on a mission by Abraham to get a wife for Yipsat. And he was pinpointing his prayer. Eliezer, steps ordered by Yahweh. So warned for Kai to have a supernatural birthday in London, Oxford, for us to be led, for our steps to be led, it brings an excitement and a joy. But within that, and within that excitement and that joy is binding up every negative thought and and every negative inclination that could uh try to move forward. Like right now, as we prepare. I think one of the biggest things is don't take the wrong way. You know, last time we went away uh out of the nation was to Africa. Do we have suitcases?

SPEAKER_02 55:35

We have suitcases, but uh like our kids, Kai's like, what? I don't want that suitcase from up there, I want a new suitcase. But the last time we went away, she didn't care because it was she was she was like what three?

SPEAKER_00 55:49

Yeah. She got potty trained really in Africa. Yeah. Yeah. I don't think she was three.

SPEAKER_02 55:59

She was three. Because remember, four years old is when she went to uh pre-K. And that's all I don't want to talk about. But her birth her birthday's in July. Yes, she turned four in July. In April. She was three in April. April was four July.

SPEAKER_00 56:22

Okay. No, but it's it's very, very important. So here it is. You have to be honest with yourself and honestly where the Holy Spirit has called you to be. That's the only way to fight you a healthy battle. And right now, what we're doing with our daughters, what uh what I'm doing, especially when the daughters want to throw out how old they are, I don't think it's how how old you are. To me, it's how well you can hear Yahweh speak to you. And my mom, I had, I mean, I was working at 15, you know, and sometimes I work late, you know, and I I I walk home. But my mom always knew that I was a very, very good decision maker. I could I I used to walk late at night, maybe 1 a.m. up Central Avenue because Aaron worked on, he was like a security guard on one of the apartment buildings on South Harrison. So I would go from South Clinton to South Harrison to play him in chess and come back home maybe two, two, two, two, three a.m. in the morning. But the thing is, being a good decision maker. I want my daughters to be a good decision makers. But in order to be good decision makers, you have to be honest with yourself, honest with your limitations and honest with how you you handle yourself. That's very, very important. Right. In in remaining healthy. And safe. And safe. Yeah. But what you can't do is re refrigerate the wrong pain. You can't do that. No, that's true. I know it's true.

SPEAKER_02 58:16

I know it's true too. Well, don't do it. Don't you know it's true?

SPEAKER_00 58:25

You know what that is? No, it's not hip hop. That's some RB.

SPEAKER_02 58:35

That's not RB.

SPEAKER_00 58:37

Who is it then?

SPEAKER_02 58:38

Well, it's not even really dumb. That's Millie Vanilli.

SPEAKER_00 58:51

No. But I that the the the power comes in once again and being able to have the freedom to speak. Because when you have the freedom to speak, you don't have to refrigerate something. Right? You can just flow, we have we we have the freedom to to say it. And to me, that's uh that's what the the real power is.

SPEAKER_02 59:19

Yeah. One other thing, one of the last things. We were talking about this, and I wrote this down because too often this happens. What you get delivered from, you should never go back to.

SPEAKER_00 59:33

Oh, come on, that's Malayahu chapter 12. Once we're away from it. Yeah, the the the evil spirit leaves and then comes back with seven spirit more worse. No, once you get delivered, don't go back. And uh but it's I don't care who you are, you you gotta know how to repent. Because it it it it empowers you. It empowers you and it just completely starts a whole a whole healing process, you know? It starts a a complete a complete healing process, you know?

SPEAKER_02 1:00:15

You want to be changed and you want to be new, repentance is the easy part because you just want to get rid of whatever it is that is causing you pain, whatever it is is causing you all of your warfare. Repentance, true repentance, it takes care of that. It's like there's a relief, you know what I'm saying? When you when you truly repent, there's a relief or it brings the healing, brings the strength, and it can be felt a victory, a joy. True repentance can be felt. True repentance can can be felt.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:49

True repentance is a miracle. Repent. The kingdom of heaven is at hand, you know. Repenting gives you access to Yahweh, gives you access to all of his blessings, access to all of his promises, it gives you access to everything before sin ever entered into the world, which is which is beyond powerful. Metanoia. Amen. Change your thought, a change of mind, a change of actions. Yes. And and and that's needed. But I I think before you refrigerate anything, get something fresh. Because what whatever you refrigerate, you're you're saving it for later. You know? Get something good for you. Well, it was so deep. I was like, are there any refrigerators in heaven or the new new kingdom? You know? In other words, I mean, I'll never forget my mom would always say, you know, they grew up in the south, you you never ate a real chicken. And she said, a real chicken is when you go and kill it, and you take the feathers off. There's a big difference. And then when I went to Bethlehem in Palestine, when I went to Bethlehem, you would went to this restaurant and you know, they they were you picked the chicken out.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:09

They're not like inside of the restaurant where they're seating people.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:13

No, it's a different part of the restaurant. But you're up there laughing. You never had a live chicken before. Yes, I did. Oh, yeah, where, babe?

SPEAKER_02 1:02:23

At the church, $2.99. Minister Maggie bought one. A live chicken, babe? She she said that she went to the to the chicken place to get uh they they killed the live chicken and cooked it. She was like, You have to y'all have to taste this because it tastes different than the chicken that you get from the supermarket. Did I eat it? I'm sure you did. Greedy, you eat everything. Man, I don't remember that. See, you thought I was lying. No, just exaggerating. No, I wouldn't exaggerate about that. You might no.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:01

But it's very important not to refrigerate the wrong thing. But like I said before, in the new kingdom, I don't envision that. Things you you got a garden, you know what I'm saying? Everything is there, and it it's it's totally different when it's fresh, you know? Totally different. So let's not refrigerate anything, including joy and peace. I mean, let's get it fresh.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:32

Why are you smiling making your cheeks so big?

SPEAKER_00 1:03:34

Because uh your cheeks are big and it's 1006.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:38

Yeah, and I'm like, what time do we give up? Like seven, you be getting up. You get up mad early, and then it's like, nah, I'm forced to get up mad early.

SPEAKER_00 1:03:59

Yeah, but some of us we got life to live, you know. We got we got we got problems.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:03

Some of us, it's a whole job here today. But I'm in. So for those of you who tuned in tonight, we want to thank you once again for your support always. And choose not to refrigerate pain, but choose to allow Yahweh to heal you from all pain.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:26

And choose to ask yourself the hard questions, because that's where victory is. And enjoy life. Enjoy it. Where it says, Whatever you put your hands to, you know, what have joy in it, but also whatever you do, do it to the glory of Yahweh, you know.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:50

Right?

SPEAKER_00 1:04:51

Don't rush your life, don't rush your life, but do not refrigerate pain, uh, and don't go all on any old joy, you know. And life is always changing, you know. My eldest is 20, she's gonna be 21 October the 24th. Kaya's gonna be 15, July the 29th. And we don't know where we're celebrating because we don't know where we're going. Amen. But let's make faith fun. Amen. And I look for the greatest growth ever. I want to personally thank everybody for sharing Prophet Jackie's videos. Jackie's never had hits like this. Amen.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:38

Jackie thank everybody.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:41

I I spoke to her earlier and told her to, yeah. I told her to personally thank people. To personally thank people.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:48

Yeah, you'd be like, uh, I'm gonna do it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:51

Stop talking about that website, okay, baby. It's 108. Let's see, let's let's see if you're able to post this. You know, and don't break my stuff behind you, okay? Ain't nothing yours behind me.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:02

Nothing behind me is your I can see what's behind you, babe. No, it's not your office no more.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:07

It is my office.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:08

No, it's not.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:11

Play around if you want to. Play around if you want to.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:14

This is my studio. Your offices are downstairs. Babe, you have a desk upstairs. Yeah, and I got two offices like you. They sit in the same room.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:25

That's my desk, babe. You wish.

SPEAKER_02 1:06:28

All right. See you all next week. We love you guys. Thank you for tuning in. Until next time, tell somebody to tell somebody to tell you. Same bad channel. Same bad time. Same y'all channel. No, no, no. Same y'all channel. No, no, I have my own slogan. You have to say it. What is it? I'm gonna say it and I'm gonna fit see if you know it. Co-pilot. Let's see. Tell somebody to tell somebody to tell somebody else. Lyrical.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:03

Lyrical apostle. It's on the 9 p.m.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:07

Wednesday. I don't know. No.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:09

No, what is it? What is it?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:11

Until next time. We're gonna come back next week and give you another chance.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:14

No, what's the sign off?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:16

Tell somebody to tell someone to tell someone else to come journey with us. Let me get a shirt and give it to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:25

With all that on it? Yes, with all of that on it. Monique got competition now. Robbie went in the business.

SPEAKER_02 1:07:35

And Javon. She got a lot of competition. Javon came in his own shirts with new designs. Yeah. All right, baby. Let's see if you can post this. All right.

SPEAKER_00 1:07:48

Love me now.