Leviticus (Chapters 1-2)

Leviticus 1–7 records God’s instructions for the burnt offering, grain offering, peace offering, sin offering, and guilt offering. These sacrifices allowed Israel to approach God according to His commands and addressed worship, thanksgiving, atonement, and restitution. The offerings were to be brought through the priests and carried out exactly as the Lord commanded. These chapters reveal God’s holiness and show that approaching Him required sacrifice and obedience.

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Phil Porter 0:00

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Why Start Leviticus Now

Phil Porter 0:26

Podcast. Well, hey everybody, welcome back to Teach Me the Bible Podcast, where we are trying to continue with our mission, which is helping the people of God understand the Word of God. And today we're going to take a uh a launch. Actually, that's what we're going to do. We're going to go on a on a launch and uh we're going to start the book of Leviticus. And um this book, most likely, again, we'll reiterate, uh, you've probably never read through. And um, but today you're gonna get a lot of information that you uh wouldn't know that is in there. Um probably some highs and some low points, but some of the things that uh were that you'll learn is where it ties to and some of these specific things. And it's important to understand, too, that this book is the third book in the Torah, and that it's not in isolation. It actually does start after Exodus and it then ends, and then Numbers begins. And so it's not um just random, it's not just this something that was dropped in place, it's actually intentional. Uh remember, Moses wrote the Torah so that Israel will know about themselves, where they are when they are, how they're gonna get there, what they do when they get there, um, all of the different things. And so this this is a part of it. And so we're gonna build on that today. Uh, you're gonna take the knowledge that you've understood through the story so far in Genesis and Exodus, and now we are gonna apply all of that going into Leviticus.

Leviticus 1 To 7 Overview

Dr. David Klingler 2:01

Good. So um chapters one through seven, what we call chapters one through seven. Um it's the first major uh section. Now remember what's uh you know, why are why does Israel need this law? Uh the Lord is going to dwell in their midst, uh, and this is how they are to draw near to him, right? And so um this begins in uh the the book begins in one one, but the the context is all the way back in Exodus. We covered that that last time. Uh and so uh he called to Moses and the Lord spoke to him from the tent of meeting, saying, uh, and this is basically a series of quotes all stitched together by um, and he said to Moses, saying. And it's just gonna be over and over and over, all the way down through the end of chapter seven, uh, and the last verses in chapter seven summarize the section, right? So we want to jump down there to to the end of chapter seven. This is in chapter seven, verses uh thirty-seven and thirty-eight. This is the law, the burnt offering, the grain offering, the sin offering, the guilt offering, the consecration offering, or the ordination offering, uh, the sacrifice uh of peace offerings, which the Lord commanded Moses at Sinai in the day that he commanded the sons of Israel to present their offerings to the Lord in the wilderness of Sinai. Uh and so uh the the means and manner by which Israel was to draw near to the Lord, it's some of it's introduced in the story earlier. We'll talk about that some. Uh, the uh the burnt offerings, the grain offerings, this type of thing. Um, they've already been introduced. Um so that when when in time, when your sons ask you, saying, Why do we do these commands and ordinances and what's the purpose for this sacrificial system? You tell them this story. You you tell them about Genesis and Exodus. And um, and then in chapter eight, the story picks back up, right? So in chapters one through seven, you've got this long quote section, chapter eight, uh, verse four. So Moses did as the Lord commanded him when the congregation was assembled at the door of uh of meeting, the tent of meeting, the doorway of the tent of meeting. And Moses said to the congregation, This is the thing that the Lord commanded uh has commanded to do. Then Moses and Aaron and his sons came near and he washed them with water and he put on their tunic, and all of this instruction, and that instruction's, you know, that that's back in uh you know at the in the instruction in the book of Exodus. He put on their tunic and he clothed them and uh you know, and he placed the the you know all their the breast piece on them and the urim, urim, and the uh thumim, and all of the the turban, all of this, all of this is playing out, which has been introduced back in Exodus, uh, and um and then in the first chapters of Leviticus, and they're going to assume their responsibilities. Chapters 1 through 7, the priest is the one who's to administer these sacrifices. Uh when a man comes near to the Lord, this is how he's supposed to do this. Draw near is the word. The Lord is going to operate in their midst, he's going to be in their midst. And so when a man comes near to the Lord, or when the man draws near, that's the word that's going to be used. To offer a, they're going to translate an offering, uh, but it's it comes from the root word to draw near, right? So here's how you can approach the inapproachable God. Uh and the priest is going to administer these sacrifices.

Priests Must Get It Right

Dr. David Klingler 5:51

And they better do it right, right? And so immediately, almost the first story, you know, in chapter eight, uh, in chapter nine, there's uh we return to the story, and then in chapter 10, uh now Nadab and Abihu, these are the sons of Aaron, took uh their respective fire plant uh pans, and after putting fire on them, they placed incense on them, and they offered strange fire, uh, is how they translate that uh before the Lord. Um and the Lord consumed them with fire. Uh, you know, um, all the way through this story, and you and fire is gonna play a big uh part of this uh whole story. Oh when um uh the burning bush, right? The the bush was was burning, but it was not uh was not consumed, it wasn't eaten. And so this the the Lord is a consuming fire, that type of thing. Uh and so how do you um draw near to the Lord and not get wiped out for it? Now this this story uh that's gonna be in chapter 10, and we're just kind of summarizing here, we'll go back and and cover some of the details in chapters one and two today. Um this the the character of God has not changed. You're not allowed to just do whatever you want, approach the Lord however you want, interpret however you want, sacrifice however you want, worship however you want. Um, but that seems to be where we are today in the church. Um but Israel was always held to the standard spelled out in Torah. Uh and that's how they knew they missed the mark when they didn't do it. Uh and and it seems today that we just kind of well, you know, we just I can do it however I want to do it. Uh well that's I I don't see that anywhere in the Old Testament, I don't see that anywhere in the New Testament. I I see it in a lot of people's belief systems in the church, um, but that's not coming from the Bible, it's not coming from any sound doctrine, right? Uh and so these stories, um, and and we won't get into all of the details, uh, you know, and some of the details, there's no precedent for them in the story that I can see other than this is just how the Lord commanded Israel to do it. So you do it the way he commanded you to do it. Um, and um, you know, when I was a kid, um, we used to ask, well, you know, ask our parents, well, why did you ever do this? And oh yeah. And what did your parents say? Because. Because I said so. Said so, yes. Yeah, that's that's true.

Phil Porter 8:40

Um there is more to them, yeah, right.

Dr. David Klingler 8:42

Because I said so. Um, well, why do we do it this way? Because the Lord said so makes sense. Um, well, what happens when you don't do it the way the Lord said? Well, we're gonna get a story about that. They're gonna offer strange fire, they're gonna be killed immediately, and Moses tells Aaron, and don't you complain about it, because they knew better, right? Uh, and and we'll see examples of this all the way through. So, um, so uh the the sections uh you know chat chapters one through seven are kind of spelling out all the different manner uh reasons and manners uh by which a man uh or a person can approach the Lord, uh, and the role of the priests in the midst of that. Um so the tabernacle is being built, um, instruction for Aaron and his sons on how to build their tabernacle, how to how to you know set it up, uh, what they're supposed to wear, what their role is, um, and how they're supposed to operate, and then the instruction on, and when a man comes, this is what he's to bring to draw near to the Lord, and this is how the priest is to you know to to administer these sacrifices so that a man can draw near to the Lord. Uh, and then we're gonna get into instruction for for the priests as well, uh, and um uh and you know, laws of cleanliness, uncleanliness, and days of celebration, days of uh national uh celebration, or uh you know Day of Tow of Atonement, for example.

The Meaning Of Draw Near

Dr. David Klingler 10:15

Yeah. And so uh chapter one, uh when um see uh the the Lord tells Moses, speech to the sons of Israel and say to them, when a man brings you an offering, uh brings you, when a man draws near, uh there's our our our word. Um we're really introduced to this word in uh in Moses's burning bush incident. Uh do not draw near, remove your sandals. Uh you're standing on holy ground, right? Um so you have the burning bush, the consuming fire. They saw this up on the mountain. It has been in their midst everywhere they've gone. Uh so how do you draw near to this Lord who is a consuming fire? Here's how, right? Yeah. Um uh you and you uh have a drawing near gift, maybe you know that's the root root word, right? Uh to the Lord, from cattle, uh that's uh bochema is the word here. Um they they uh translate it in the New American Standard offering of animals uh of the herd or the flock. Uh so these are animals from the the bochare, the herd, or the the sown, the flock. Uh if the offering is a burnt offering from the herd, he shall

Burnt Offerings From Noah Forward

Dr. David Klingler 11:37

offer it. Now, burnt offering, so the burnt offering, we were introduced to the burnt offering for the first time back in um in the Noah story, right? So Noah built an altar to the Lord and he took from every clean animal and from every clean bird and offered a burnt offering on the altar. That's back in Genesis chapter 8. Now it's important to remember that um this isn't the first time Israel has heard any of these stories, right? Uh they've been they're being told to build the tabernacle uh and how to do it and what to offer. Um but they this is um when Moses was spoken to at Mount Sinai, uh, but they are now about to enter the land. And so they've been doing these things for a while, but Moses is writing down uh the the Torah, the first five books are recording what has happened in the past so that Israel's reminded of it as they're entering into the land, and then in generations to come, they know why they're doing what they're doing, because they know the story of their heritage. Does that make sense? Oh, yeah. Uh, and so they've already been doing these things, they've been introduced to these concepts in the story, and and if they are uh, you know, if we're understanding this right, that that the the they're on the plains of Moab and they're about to take the land and Torah's been been delivered. Uh the instruction was already given. Um, and the stories have already been told to them in their past. And so Noah built an altar to the Lord, he took from every clean animal, and for every clean bird. I get asked when I'm uh uh whenever I'm teaching Genesis. Well, how do they how did they know? How did Noah know which was the clean animals and the you know the clean birds? Um the story is not being told to Noah. Uh we we don't know how Noah knew, but Noah knew, and the story is being told to later generations. Um, but Noah already knows. How do we know that Noah knows? Because of what it says. He took from every clean bird and from every burnt offering. Remember, um, the story is not telling you how the characters know what they know, it's just telling you that they knew. Uh, and the reason why this chapter 8 story is being told uh is because um the Noah story, uh Noah's name means rest, uh, and Lamech, his father, named him rest, thinking this is the one who will give us comfort arising from the ground which the Lord has cursed. Um and uh and so he's hoping to bring rest to man. Lamech hopes that Noah is the one to do this. The irony is uh that uh Noah doesn't bring rest to man, he brings rest to God's wrath, really, rest to his judgment. Uh and so uh Noah went out, his sons and his wife, um, and uh Noah built an altar, uh chapter 8, verse 20, um, to the Lord and took from every clean animal and from every clean bird and offered the burnt offerings on the altar. And the Lord smelled the soothing aroma, uh, verse 21, um uh the uh restful aroma. And the Lord said to himself, I will never again curse the ground on account of man, for the intent of his heart is on evil from his youth. I will never again destroy every living thing as I have done, while the earth remains, seed time and harvest, cold and heat, summer and winter, day and night shall not cease. Uh and so this is our first introduction in the story to the uh uh the um the burnt offering, the uh uh oot, the things that uh that go up. Um burnt offering, just the smoke goes up. The next time we see it is in Genesis chapter 22. Um this is uh when uh the Lord commands Abraham, Take now your son, your only son whom you love, Isaac, and go to the land of Moriah and offer him there as a burnt offering on one of the mountains, which I will tell you. So Abram rose early in the morning, saddled his donkey, took two of his men with him, and Isaac his son, and he split word wood for the burnt offering, and he arose and went up to the place as the Lord had told him. Uh this is in uh Genesis chapter 22. And on the third day Abraham raised up his eyes and saw from a distance, and Abraham said to his young men, Stay here, I with the donkey, I and the the young boy will go over there, we will worship, and we will return. And Abraham took the wood from the burnt offering, and he laid it on his son Isaac, and he took his hand in his hand the knife, uh the the the hand uh the uh he took in his hand the fire and the knife. There's always the fire there, um, and the two of them walked together. Um, and uh he said, My father, he says, Here I am. Um, behold the wood, uh the fire in the wood, but where is the lamb for the burnt offering? And Abraham said, The Lord will provide for himself the lamb for the burnt offering, my son. And they walked along. So that this burnt offering uh is a placeholder waiting for the sacrifice who is who is coming.

The Storyline That Leads To Christ

Dr. David Klingler 17:19

Um and so ultimately in the story, the ability to draw near to the Lord is going to be through his son, Christ. Um and say, well, that seems like a stretch. Well, it is if you skip the story, right? If you just go from burnt offering to Jesus. But if we if we track from the from the plot of the story, Genesis chapter 1, Genesis chapter 2, the setting, um, the fall, Genesis chapter 3, the Lord um um coming on the scene, judging um Adam and Eve, uh, and there's a sacrifice that is made in Genesis 3. It's followed in Genesis chapter 4, and we track this all the way through the book of Genesis in Exodus. Behold, the Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world. Well, now that's not a stretch at all. You track the plot. Uh and so the problem that we get is that we don't follow the storyline. Uh, we just go in and grab a verse and then we say, Oh, that's like Jesus. I'm like, well, no, that's not exactly how it's working. There's a progress uh that's happening in the story, and you need to track that progression of the story. And so the burnt offering uh starts all the way back in the book of Genesis, and it's uh there for a reason. Why can't man approach the Lord? Because he's holy and you're not. Uh you are to be holy, uh, you are to be uh without sin, you are to be an image bearer, um, but man is sinful. And so how does sinful man approach a sinless God? Here's how. And this is going to be the instruction, chapter after chapter, for seven chapters. Um it's going to provide for um you know all of the different scenarios. Uh the Lord, the Lord God, compassionate, gracious, slowed our anger, abounding in loving, kindness, and truth, but by no means does he leave sin unpunished. Uh and so all these, you know, sin, iniquity, transgression, all of these sins are going to have to be accounted for. Uh and even the ones that you don't know about, right? The unintentional sin uh has to be accounted for. And so the provision here is uh when you bring this type of offering, if the offering is from the um, well, let's uh let's look at

Atonement As Covering And Cost

Dr. David Klingler 19:44

this. He shall uh he shall um verse uh three uh if it's a burnt offering from the herd, he shall offer it a male without defect, he shall offer it at the doorway, the tent of the meeting, uh, that he may be accepted uh before the Lord. He shall lay his hands on the head of the burnt offering, uh, that it may be accepted for him to make atonement, uh atonement, kafar uh uh covering on his behalf. Um the writer of Hebrews is going to make this point that the blood of bulls and goats could never take away sin. Um It could cover it, but it couldn't take it away. Um and he shall slay the young bull before the Lord, and Aaron's sons, the priest, shall offer up the blood and sprinkle the blood around the altar that is at the doorway of the tent of the meeting, and he shall skin the burnt offering and cut it to pieces, and the sons of Aaron, the priest, shall um put the fire on the altar and arrange the wood on the fire, and Aaron's sons and the priest shall arrange the pieces, the head and the suet over the wood which is on the fire, and which is on the altar, its entrels and its legs he shall wash with water, and the priest shall offer up uh in smoke on the altar all of the burnt offering, and offering uh it as a soothing aroma. There's that uh chapter eight, uh Genesis chapter eight, same phrase, soothing aroma to the Lord. Right? Uh they are to do what Mo what uh what Noah did by faith, they are to do by faith, they're to continue. So the story has set uh this precedent. If the offering is from the flock, uh the sheep, the goats, the burnt offering, uh, then you know this is the instruction is given. Uh, if it is uh from the birds, right? If there's a bird, right? So this goes back to uh you know uh back to uh to Abraham. Uh he took every clean animal and every clean bird and offered on the burnt altar, the burnt offering on the altar. And so Israel's doing the same thing that Noah did, and here's how they're to do it. Now, the book of Genesis doesn't give the details of how to do it, but Leviticus does. Right. Um, and uh so he shall you know tear it's uh he shall uh tear it by its wings, but he shall not sever it. Uh this priest shall offer it up in smoke on the altar of the wood, which is set with fire. It is a burnt offering, an offering of fire, a soothing aroma to the Lord, right? Uh and so we're introducing this. How do you draw near to the Lord? Well, in the same way Noah did, all right. Uh, and in the same way that Abraham did, right, in chapter

Grain Offerings And Biblical Roots

Dr. David Klingler 22:30

two. Uh when anyone presents a grain offering uh to the Lord. And that word uh there in chapter two for grain offering, we've already been introduced to this word. This goes back uh to Genesis chapter 18. The story in Genesis chapter 18. Uh this is uh if you remember the story in Genesis chapter 18. Uh the Lord appeared uh to Abraham uh by the oaks of Mamre. He was sitting in the tent uh at the tent door in the heat of the day. So here he is at his tent door. And he lifted up his eyes and looked, and behold, three men were standing opposite him, and when he saw them, he ran uh from the tent door to meet them, uh, and he bowed, uh uh bowed himself to the earth before them. And the Lord said, If I've found favor, uh, my Lord, and he and said, My Lord, if I have found favor in your sight, please do not pass by. Um and uh and here he offers a uh a flower, they translate it a fine, uh a fine flour. Uh but Abraham hurried into the tent to Sarah and said, Quickly prepare three measures of, and here's our word, uh find flour, knead them, and make breadcakes, right? And so uh offering to the Lord, Abraham's doing it, you're doing the same thing here in uh in Leviticus chapter two. And so if you're doing this, this is how you do it, right? He shall bring it to Aaron's sons, the priests, and they shall take it from a handful of its fine flour and from the oil and from the frankincense, and the priest shall offer it up uh in smoke as a memorial portion or remembrance uh on the altar, an offering by fire of a soothing aroma. There it is again to the Lord. The remainder of the grain offered belongs to Aaron and to his sons. It is the most holy thing, an offering uh to the Lord by fire. Uh, if you bring an offering uh grain offering baked in the oven, unleavened cake, you um you know, you give the instruction on how you're supposed to do it. It's supposed to be unleavened, uh, it must be mixed with oil. Uh, you are to uh put salt on it. All of this uh instruction is uh is given so that um Israel can draw near, right? Now, um are all of the details significant or do all the details tie back to the story? No, um the big parts tie back to the story, uh, but how they're to do it is the instruction of

Why Sacrifices End With Jesus

Dr. David Klingler 25:12

the Lord. Now, um, are we to do this? No, no, that we're we're not, you know. Um I was asked the other day, um, you know, when did Israel stop doing the sacrificial system when the temple was destroyed? When the temple's destroyed, that becomes problematic. Um, they were to do it always until Christ came. Um, but uh but we're going to have the destruction of the temple and the dispersion of Israel, and that's going to be a problem, right? Uh, and so all of this was to be uh constantly done as a placeholder until the Christ uh appears. And again, uh that's that's the plot, right? So all of this is being introduced. The question uh on the table, and we don't want to ever lose sight of this question, is how does man get back in the presence of the Lord? That's really what happens at the fall. Genesis 1 and 2. Uh man is expelled from the garden. Uh, how does man get back into the garden, back to the tree of life, um, back in the presence of a sinless God? Well, um, it's going to be through the ultimate sacrifice. Until then, this is how you can do it in a way that the Lord will tolerate your sinless uh sinfulness uh until the promised one comes. Right. Uh and so chapters one and two, um, you know, next time we'll go to uh uh the in chapter three, we'll talk about peace offerings and then uh in chapter four, sin offerings and all that. But again, we're gonna keep saying the same thing over and over. Uh chapter uh five, the guilt offering, chapter six, uh we'll uh we'll uh continue with the you know, if a man has acted unfaithfully against the Lord, uh, then then what do you do? And so all of this provision is uh so that the the a sinful people can live in the midst of a sinless God and not get wiped out as Moses has interceded for them several times. Yes. Uh, how do you not get wiped out? Well, here's how you do it. Here's the here's the rules, here's the law, and here's how you do it. Uh, and just like in Israel, or just like in Egypt, they come out and immediately they rebel. Uh, immediately the sons of Aaron are going to rebel, not do it right. Um and um, you know, and so again, I think that there's some just real practical, you know, character of God stuff.

Recovering The Fear Of The Lord

Dr. David Klingler 27:52

Uh, and um, and I think that you know, that the thing that is missing, if I could say one thing is it seems to me is missing in the church, is the fear of the Lord. We do not fear the Lord. Um you fear, and this is the the model every time. Um the Lord shows himself, people fear, and then they're told, do not fear, right? Now we treat God as common and we don't fear. And when we don't fear, um, you know, then then we can get ourselves into problems. Think about you know your relationship with your kids, right? Uh don't ever forget I'm your dad, right? Yeah, so you know, we can have a relationship, but with it starts right there, right? It starts with who the Lord is uh and uh what he is like, and we don't ever forget that. Um and I and I think that that's what we're missing in uh in the church.

Hebrews And The Better High Priest

Phil Porter 28:59

Yeah, I as you read this, you know, you're talking about these offerings and things like that. It just, you know, the writer of Hebrews we tied last time. Yep, just how important the writer of Hebrews is whenever you're reading something like this. You know, I I look at Hebrews 4, you know, we have such a great high priest who's pastor of the heavens, for we do not have a high priest who can't sympathize with our weakness, but one has been tempted. Therefore, let us draw near in confidence to the throne of grace. Like how much of a special, I mean, just because of Christ. And did you catch that draw nearing? Draw near. Yeah. That's what made me go to the scripture. I was like, oh my gosh, that's the tie.

Dr. David Klingler 29:42

Right. And um, and so what is the means by which you can approach the unapproachable? It is through Christ. Well, it is not through changing the definitions of sin, or changing the character of God, or making God in your image and your likeness, or doing it how you want to do it. That's the none of that is acceptable. Never has been, isn't now, nor will it ever be. And we need to repeat that, say that, return to that in the church. Um you return to a understanding of who God is. And when you see who he is, personified in Christ. I mean, I'm I'm reminded so much of John's response when he sees the resurrected Christ. You know, John the apostle that Jesus loved, the disciple Jesus loved, he sees the resurrected Christ. I mean, he turns around and he sees this Christ and he falls down as a dead man in fear. And Christ says, do not fear. Well, where has that gone in the church? You know, we've we've so lowered um the character of God, we've changed the definitions of sin. We no longer call good good and evil evil, right, uh right and wrong wrong, uh, but we have become like Israel. We call evil good and we call good evil because we're doing what's right in our own eyes. Um, you know, and and and that that's just a problem that has always existed in mankind. We want to make God like us rather than realizing that we are called to be like him, and that is impossible except through the person and work of Christ.

Phil Porter 31:39

Yeah, and when when we read, you know, as us as believers today, because of Christ, we read the gospels, and you made this point last time, which was we read these red letters and we treat them like you know, like we should, like this is Jesus' words. But in Leviticus, this would be in red letters. Absolutely. If God is, you know, as God is speaking. So when you're, you know, I was reminded as you were reading, like he's saying this to Moses. This would be the red letters of the Old Testament. And how important would that be to the children of Israel when they know, hey, God is saying this? It it would be highly significant.

Dr. David Klingler 32:20

Well, and and if you were, let's say that you were um the next priest up after Aaron's sons were just killed because they didn't do it right. Uh I think you'd want to have some details here. Okay, tell me again exactly how I'm supposed to do this. Absolutely. Because this didn't go so well for these last guys. They they you know, they they you know just kind of did it the way they wanted to do it. Which should be acceptable.

Phil Porter 32:47

Yes. That I think that's a great I I love you know you bringing that up. It's just not acceptable. You know what's hard to hear? That yeah. In today's world, that's just not acceptable, and it's not something to be offended at, it's something to know. Like it is what it

Warnings That Save Lives

Phil Porter 33:06

is.

Dr. David Klingler 33:06

Yeah. You know, if if you were heading, uh let's say you're driving an 18-wheeler or a car, uh, and the the bridge is damaged, um, and it's not going to hold your vehicle, right? And if you go that way, you will die. And there's been warning signs the whole way, right? Bridge out, you know, do not unstable. And you're going full speed, right? Um what do you expect? Yeah, what how would you want someone to talk to you? Hey, idiot. Yeah, yeah. I begin to make the sign. You know, yeah. I I need to get your attention. Look, what you're doing is going to end very, very tragically. Do not go down this trail. Right? Well, you're not being very nice to me and way when would you say that? Well, I'm giving you instruction. You know, you know, go this is why it's so important we go back and read these stories. You know, the Lord says to Moses, get out of the way, Moses. I'm gonna kill them all. Moses says, Don't do it. Don't do it, please. Don't do it. Yeah, they're rebellious, I know, but don't do it. That character of God has not changed, right? Uh, and you have a mediator, someone who's who's pleading your case, an advocate. Yeah, we translated a helper, but he's a he's like here, he's your defense attorney. Yes, and you need one, you know, not only for our unintentional sin, you know, we don't know any better because we haven't been taught, but you know, our intentional sin. I don't care what it says, I'm doing it my way. Yep. And and you know, I can hear Moses saying, Lord, don't kill him. Don't kill him. Yes.

Phil Porter 35:00

Yeah. Well, and again, to that point, the blood of bulls and goats was a covering, but Christ paid once for all. Yep.

Dr. David Klingler 35:09

And the the gravity of the disparity between God's perfect character and our arrogance, ignorance, disobedience. Um I'm trying to think of more list of strong words here to use. Um irreverence, um, lack of concern, demand that he accept me. Um, no, he accepts his son as a sacrifice, a payment for who you are and what you are.

Phil Porter 35:48

Yeah, praise the Lord. Yeah.

Dr. David Klingler 35:50

And uh, and so we dare not ever forget that. Uh, and I fear that we have in the church. Um, and we're making God in our image, and uh, and I think that that is a bridge out, uh, and it has tragic consequences. Um, and so, you know, if if we're not gonna speak the truth, um then, you know, then we will stand and give account. We were talking before we started the podcast, you know, and in Titus, uh, Paul tells Titus um these people who are false teachers, he tells uh he tells Titus to reprove them severely so that they may be sound in the faith. That sounds harsh. Well, if that's what it takes to get people's attention, um, then it's worth it. Yes, right? It's absolutely worth it. And they may not like you for it, Titus, when you reprove them severely. But what would be better? Uh for them to say, well, you know, they're they're these false teachers are there burning in hell, and uh and they say, well, they reflect back on all Titus and they say, you know what? Well, I'm I'm thankful that he at least spoke to me nicely. Or um they escaped hell. Um, they're now in the presence of the Lord, and they say, I'm thankful that he reproved me severely so that I could be sound in the faith. Right. There's our choices, and we we are choosing the wrong choice. You know, be nice, don't offend, don't tell them about their sin, don't call out when they're in error. Um, don't offend their emotional sensitivities. Yeah, not interested in that.

Phil Porter 37:40

Yeah, and as a reminder, everything we're talking about right now, you know, post the kind of chapter two deal is just uh we need to understand that God is still one to be feared. And um, and that we, you know, when when we read a Leviticus, we can see he wanted he said, do this this way a soothing aroma unto the Lord. Draw near. These terms that now we see, also now the writer of Hebrews is using the same language, except we have the benefit of his son. Absolutely. They only had a covering, and they had to continually bring this to him. Yep. And and and praise the Lord for Jesus, you know, praise God for Jesus. So um we'll be starting in uh chapter three when we when we get

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