Leviticus (Chapters 6-7)

Leviticus 6–7 continues God’s instructions concerning the guilt offering, sin offering, burnt offering, grain offering, and peace offering. These chapters emphasize holiness, restitution, obedience, and the ministry of the priests. Through these sacrifices, God provides a way for His people to approach Him according to His commands, revealing His holiness and His desire to dwell among His covenant people.

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Welcome And Where We Are

Phil Porter 0:00

You're listening to Teach Me the Bible podcast. Our mission is to help the people of God understand the Word of God. Join us each Monday and Thursday for new episode releases. Listen to our full library of content at teachmethebible.com or by downloading the Teach Me the Bible app from any app store. You're listening to Teach Me the Bible Podcast. Hey everybody, welcome back to Teach Me the Bible Podcast, helping the people of God understand the Word of God. We're here again with Dr. David Klingler, who would have thought? But we're still here with him. And uh we keep him around just for y'all, actually. Um, but the we are in Leviticus still, um, and we're kind of chucking through here. We've we've actually covered a lot already, and I think you know, we're gonna get to the end of God saying a lot, um, through probably, I would assume, through chapter seven. We'll see. Um, but just as a reminder, remember uh God is speaking to Moses uh a lot during these first seven chapters, and um all of this has significance, talking about offerings, um, sin offerings, now guilt offerings, other things. And we're gonna get into some other stuff, uh, because this isn't all just about offerings, which uh you'll let us know. But uh, I'm excited to kind of get through the end of this Lord speaking to Moses today and uh see kind of what um is in store.

Sinai Setup And Sacrifice Purpose

Dr. David Klingler 1:33

Yeah, so we we are in um we're in the wilderness. The story is telling about what happened in the wilderness, particularly at Mount Sinai. Uh so they've gone to Mount Sinai, they've received the uh the the you know the law, the ten commands. Um they've been told there to be a kingdom of priests, um, and they're instructed to build the tabernacle. And the tabernacle is built, uh, and now it's time to start the sacrificial system. So this is the revelation of okay, here's how the sacrificial system is going to work. Here's the guilt offerings, the sin offerings, the peace offerings, the grain offerings, all the all the different types of offerings and and uh and how Aaron and his sons are going to be uh initiated, commissioned, uh dedicated, and then start the the you know this this was descriptive of you, you know, what the Lord said to uh um to Moses. It's instructive. This is how you do it, right? And it was to be repeated, right? Uh and so it was um it was to be repeated all throughout uh all throughout their days as they offered these different offerings. And so uh this is um for in function for Israel, gave them a passage or or a text to go back to to see, okay, exactly how are we supposed to do this again, right? It was like the the user's manual, so to speak, for for uh for the priest and the sacrificial system. But but it wasn't just uh the the priest's role, it was also the person's role. And we're gonna learn uh here in a in a minute that the priest had a function as well. Uh and um and we're gonna learn a lot about uh the the priestly role and and the high priest's you know garments, robe, and function, how they were to function. And we'll see this because it relates to the plot. Now, this is so important that we always remember this. It's so easy to get lost in the details. Okay, you're um you can be talking about the details of some you know meticulous little thing in the details of a scene of a movie, but it all relates back to the plot of the movie, right? And so, you know, when we're talking about the sacrificial system, we're talking about offerings, we're talking about high priests and all of this. Um, and when we see this imagery of the uh of the the tabernacle of the temple uh mimicking or alluding back to uh the um the imagery that is revealed in in the garden, the plot, the problem is how are we getting back to the garden? And who's going to get us there? Uh the high priest isn't going to be able to do it. Uh

The Plot Line Back To Eden

Dr. David Klingler 4:25

you know, he's going to serve a role uh to offer imperfect sacrifices that cover sin but don't take it away, and he's even going to have to offer sacrifices for himself. The writer of Hebrews makes this explicit. Now, um, if we don't understand this in the Old Testament and what it's anticipating as it relates to the plot, then when we get to Hebrews or the New Testament, uh, what happens is we we engage in kind of reverse engineering. Um, we we start with the conclusion and then we back it in there and say, yeah, it's like that, but we miss the point. Though this is a movie that's doing uh moving forward, this is a story that's moving forward. So we don't read Jesus back into the Old Testament. The Old Testament is anticipating this one from the beginning through plot development who will come and restore access back to the presence of God, back to the uh garden, back to the tree of life. And uh and we're learning more about that garden as we go. We're learning more about what that's gonna look like as we go. Um, so one of the analogies that uh that one of our old professors used to use is um is I've got a coffee cup sitting here. And I say, well, this this is a cup. Well, I'd say, okay, yeah, it's a cup. Uh and I say it's a coffee cup. Well, has the identity of the cup changed? No. I've I've just added more details to it, so uh, you know, so I'm I've described it more. It uh it has a handle, it's a it's a yeti cup, it's a it's a yeti short coffee cup that holds, you know, 20 ounces and it's got a lid on it, it's white, and it's got a you know, uh teach me the Bible podcast thing on it. Yeah, I don't and the more I describe now the identity of the thing isn't changing, but your understanding of it is becoming more complete, more full. Uh, but you get have to understand that it's the thing that we're talking about the whole time, right? Uh, and that's the plot. How are we fixing the plot? And so, what is this priest, wilderness, Israel, nation, what does this have to do with anything? Um, this isn't just a principle to teach us how to be holy or whatever, right? Um, it certainly functions, at least in part, for that for Israel. Uh, but this is moving the plot along. It's raising, we call this in in story the the rising action, the increasing tension of the problem. Um, Israel was on the one hand to be called as a kingdom of priests, a holy nation, um, and they were to represent God. And um uh, you know, I will make you a great nation, I will bless you, and in you all the families of the earth will be blessed. That's back to Genesis chapter 12. And so you're learning more as the story goes along about what that those words mean. How is it that Israel was to function? Uh, what does it mean to serve a God that's set apart from other gods? Uh, what does it mean to fear the Lord? Uh, and why? And so uh and so as we move along in this story, what we're learning is that uh that the Lord is is altogether holy, set apart, um uh righteous, sinless, perfect. Uh and uh that's the problem with regaining access. You are to be perfect as your father is perfect, as revealed in the law. And so when we get to uh you know to to the Sermon on the Mount, for example, uh and Jesus says things, you are to be perfect as your heavenly father is perfect, um, this is not that you are to try hard because the Lord said so. No, that that's not the standard, right? It was to recognize uh that the standard was perfection. And any missing of that perfect standard had a penalty to it. And we're gonna see this when we move forward, how detailed it was and uh and how important it was that Israel follow this uh instruction exactly, uh, or there were consequences that uh that they would uh uh that they would um incur.

Guilt Offerings And Making Restitution

Dr. David Klingler 8:48

Uh and so when we pick it up in chapter six, this is chapter six in the English Bible, it's actually chapter five still in the Hebrew Bible. Um so these first, uh I guess it's seven verses uh that we call chapter six, verses one through seven, is actually uh chapter five uh verse uh twenty through twenty-six in Hebrew Bible. Six one starts in uh Hebrew Bible in where we where we're calling six eight. And uh in six eight it turns to kind of more of the priest's role in this uh this sacrificial system. So this last little part of chapter five or the beginning of chapter six, however we want to look at it, uh, is then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, When a sin, when a person sins and acts unfaithfully against the Lord and deceives his companion. Um I'm reminded of David's words. I have, you know, he's he's committed adultery, but he says, I've I've sinned against you, Lord, right? Well, you sinned against his brother as well. He has deceived his companion, but to deceive your companion is to act unfaithfully against the Lord, right? Because of uh man was created to be an image bearer. What's he like? Well, this isn't what he's like. He doesn't act unfaithfully to you. You don't act unfaithfully uh towards uh towards your brother. You know, you're to care for the orphan, the widow, the alien, the poor among you, and all of this is going to be developed in the law as we go along, and the Lord's character is more described and how Israel was to put that character on display, right? Uh and so um uh when one uh acts unfaithfully against the Lord and deceives his companion in regard to a deposit or security entrusted uh to him through robbery, or if he's extorted it from his companion, if he's acted deceitfully, or if he's found uh or has found what was lost and lied about it and sworn falsely, so that he sins in regard to any one of the things that man may do, then it shall be that when he uh he sins and becomes guilty. Now he's already guilty, but when he realized, recognizes his guilt, he shall restore what he took uh by robbery and what he has gotten by extortion. So this is you know part of the you know returning to the Lord, returning to what's right in the eyes of the Lord. We call it repentance, right? Um, and we talked about this, I believe, last time, um, that it is the the brother's job, because the brother cares for the other in his sin to be restored to the Lord, right? So we're not just pointing out his sin to say, look, you do it too. No, it's our goal is to if someone is unaware or in or in denial, uh, it needs to be pointed out. And the reason why is because we want what's best for them, for them to be in right relation with the Lord. Uh and so when uh he he becomes sins and becomes guilty when when his sin becomes clear to him. I'm reminded of Jesus' words. Uh, you know, he's uh he says if I had not come, they would have no sin, right? Um when Jesus comes on the scene and he demonstrates that uh the perfect character of God is the standard, and you don't manipulate or change it to reach the standard. You already be perfect as your Heavenly Father is perfect, uh, then all of a sudden they stand condemned because the standard is clear. And so um uh and so if he sworn falsely, he shall make restitution for it in full and add one fifth more. Uh he shall uh give it to the one who uh it belongs on the day that he presents his guilt offering, right? So um just sounds familiar, doesn't it? If you you know have an offense against your brother, or if you've wronged your brother, uh you know, you you leave your offering, which sounds like this Jesus story, right? Uh where is he getting this? From the Old Testament. You leave your offering, you go make it right with your brother, and then you go offer your offering, right? Uh, it shall uh be that the priest uh that he shall bring to the priest his guilt offering to the Lord, the ram without defect uh from the flock, according to your valuation for your guilt offering. And the priest shall make atonement for him before the Lord, and it shall be forgiven for any of the things which he has done to incur guilt. Uh and so um, you know, the the the relation, you know, well uh obviously point of application, the relation to the brother and the relation to the Lord go hand in hand. Um, John in 1 John, how can you say that you love God whom you haven't seen and you don't care for your brother? Um it's the same concept that's over and over and over. Um, but the Lord is giving specific instruction detailed on what this looks like. We would call this, for example, a uh a case law. If this happens, if this injustice happens, then this is the payment. This is how restitution is to be made. Now, he could the Lord could have just said, love the Lord your God and love your brothers yourself. Love your brother like you love the Lord and like the Lord loves you. We love the Lord because he first loved us. So how does he love us? That's how we love our brother. Does he take from us? Does he, you know, does he say finders, keepers, losers, weepers? Yeah, I mean, none of this stuff is anything uh to do with the character of the Lord, nor should it have anything to do with our character. And so, you know, I I think just the repeated application throughout all of the Old Testament and New is that simple concept, the two great commands, love the Lord, because he first loved us. I'd put that in there, and love your brother as yourself, love your neighbor. And if your brother becomes your enemy and you love your brother, then you have to love your enemy and you seek his restoration to the Lord, right? And hope that he would do the same for you, right? And so it's not, you know, this whole um I'll do me and you do you kind of thing that we've got gone um in the church and in our culture is um you know, I can hear Dr. Bingham's words, that's something, but it's not Christian. And we tend to adopt a lot of worldly activity and behavior um and just sanctify it and bring it into the church, right? And say things like, Well, you know, they deserve it. Well, you know, yeah, let's dare not go down that trail of what we deserve. So anyway, so we'll continue.

The Priest’s Hands On The Offerings

Dr. David Klingler 15:36

So so then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, This is in chapter 6, verse 8, English uh Bible, uh, command Aaron and his son, saying, This is the law of the burnt offering. The burnt offering shall remain on the hearth of the altar and uh until morning, the fire of the altar shall be kept burning. And and so uh he, you know, all of the instructions of of how they're to to quote, do it uh is spelled out in uh verses eight, you know, for you know, how the the priest's role in how they were to offer the uh the burnt offering, uh the um uh the grain offering, you know, we're gonna just kind of go down through all of these different uh uh different offerings. Verse 14, this is the law of the grain offering. Um here's what you do. You present a handful and you lift it up, and uh, and then the sons can eat it. And um, and um and so we're we're we're getting the instructions not only for what the the human, you know, the the person who is bringing the offering was to do their role in it, but now we've moved to the role of the Iranic priesthood, right? So there's the um think of it as um the the priest has a role in between the Lord and the people. Uh and so there's a the the person's responsibility, and then there's the priest who acts as a uh as a priest. I mean that's really what a priest is. It's a it's an advocate, uh intermediary, uh uh a reconciler, right? He represents God to the people, he represents the people to God. He represents a sinful people to the Lord, and he makes the acceptable sacrifice so that the people are acceptable to the Lord, uh, and he uh is to put on display uh the holiness of the Lord to the people. And we're gonna see this when we get to uh, you know, like the rehearsal, uh, you know, it's already been told back in Exodus, get a little more detail in some ways, and even the priest's garments, right? You're gonna see a lot of similarities between the materials used in the priest's garments and the materials used in the tabernacle. Uh so the the priest represents God to the people, and he represents the people to the Lord. And um, and so this is just giving detail, and you know, we we um I don't know that there's a um uh a ton of uh things uh but the um um that that would be directly applicable to us. I mean, we could read through it. I mean it's a lot of detailed stuff, you know. You uh you here's how you prepare the the grain offering. Uh it shall be prepared with oil on the griddle. When it is stirred, you shall bring it, you shall present the grain offering in its baked pieces as a soothing aroma to the Lord. The anointed priest, this is in verse 22, uh, shall be in uh his place among all the sons, shall offer it by permanent ordinance, it shall be entirely offered up in smoke to the Lord. So every grain offering of the priest shall be burnt entirely, it shall not be eaten. And then the Lord spoke. So now the reason why this is important that we know these details, and maybe we're we're making uh an error here uh in uh in not fleshing them

Why The Details Matter Later

Dr. David Klingler 18:54

out. Um but when you're reading the story later, right, um, you are to recognize when the character is in the story, Israel was to know this law. Uh and in reading this the story, the storyteller would not say, now, this is a bad guy, right? They would show um the sin of the person, the uh maybe even the uh they didn't know, the unintentional sin, something like that, or or the the the priest is doing the sacrifice wrong, or um they're they're eating the the prohibited sacrifice, or they're carrying the ark in a in the wrong manner. And the reason you know it's the wrong manner is because you know the law. And uh, and so this is ways that the the storyteller shows you how the characters are doing in relation to the Lord uh and in relation to the carrying out of the plot, right? And so so we'll uh you know, when we get to those places later in the story, and there's myriads of examples, we'll point those out uh as we go along for now. We'll just uh uh, you know, in order to get through in a reasonable uh fashion. Um so the then the Lord, this is in verse uh verse 24. Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, Speak to Aaron and to his sons, saying, This is the law of the sin offering in the place where so we're going down through all of these same ones that we've rehearsed. Here's the man's role in these offerings. Now here's the priest's role in these offerings. Uh in the place where the burnt offering is slain. Uh the sin offering shall be slain before the Lord. It is most holy. The priest who offers it for sin shall eat it, it shall be eaten in the holy place in the court of the Ten of Meeting. Anyone who touches the flesh shall become consecrated, shall become holy. Um this ought to summon in our mind um the you know, when the leper comes to Jesus, when the unclean come to Jesus and they're made clean, right? It's the same thing going here. Uh, and when any of its blood splashes on the garment in the holy place you shall wash what was splashed, uh splashed on. Also, the uh um the uh earthen vessel which is in it shall be boiled or broken, shall be boiled. If it's a bronze vessel, it shall be scoured and rinsed with water. Every male uh of the priest may eat of it. It is most holy. But no sin offering of which any of the blood is brought into the tent of meeting to make atonement in the holy place shall be eaten. It shall be burned with fire. Now this is the law of the guilt offering, seven one. It is most holy. In the place where uh they slay the burnt offering, they are to slay the guilt offering, and they shall sprinkle the blood around the altar and uh uh offer up its fat, the fat, it tail that covers, you know, the kidneys, all the fat is holy unto the Lord. The priest shall offer them up in smoke as an altering by fire to the Lord. It is a guilt offering, verse five, verse six. Every male among the priests shall eat of it. It shall be eaten in the holy place. It is most holy. The guilt offering is like the sin offering. There is one law for them. The priest who makes atonement with it shall have it. Also the priest who presents any man's burnt offering, that priest shall have for himself the skin of the burnt offering which is to be presented. Every grain offering that is baked in the oven, or everything prepared in a pan or on a griddle shall belong to the priest who presents it. Every grain offering mixed with dry oil. So, you know, this was the provision for the priests for their meals and how they were to eat, at least in certainly in part. And they better know how to do this. So because we're going to see here uh in a few short chapters that you don't just do it however you want, you know, you'll get strike, uh struck dead, right? Uh potentially so.

Phil Porter 22:52

Yeah, so like for us, you know, we're thinking about this and we're going, well, this is a lot of detail for you know nation I'm not part of. But if you are a part of that and you happen to be a priest, uh this is uh very important.

Dr. David Klingler 23:06

Well, and yes, and and it also um reveals the character of God. That that it's not, hey, let's just do our best. Yeah, yeah right. Um, or what I perceive to be the best. I'll do it my way. Um my way will get you dead. Yeah, you don't you don't get you don't get to define the terms, change the terms, do it however you want to do it. And and so the implications of this uh as the story goes along, I think are huge. Um you know, one of the the things that that um that I think has happened, um tell you a

Israel Trip And Plain Reading

Dr. David Klingler 23:43

story. Um the first time I went to Israel, um, we we went. I was supposed to just be on the bus with Charlie Bayless, one of my mentors and and friends. And then but uh but Dr. Bayless, he um he uh had a heart condition, had heart surgery, so he couldn't go, so they asked me to lead this bus. So this is my first time to be in Israel. And when we go there, we go to all these different sites uh in Israel, and we are to you know to do a little teaching at each site. And and this happens all the time. These guides uh they have a new group coming in every other week, at least, you know, when things are safe in Israel. Uh, and so they hear the same type of stuff all the time, all the time, all the time. Our our bus driver and our guide didn't happen to be believers. Um and uh and so they would go just outside a kind of earshot, uh, so that whenever the the quote Christian speaker was done speaking, they could come in and continue the guide. But I noticed in the first uh day or two uh that every time I spoke, uh they started kind of far away and they kept getting closer and closer until, you know I think by the you know, halfway through the first day, maybe end of the first day, every place I was speaking, one was sitting on my right and one sitting on my on my left, and they were listening. And and so at the end of the day, they I was getting on the bus and they they said, Hey, what what uh we need to talk to you. I said, Well, what's going on? He says, You don't you don't teach like everyone else teaches? I said, Oh, well, okay, I'm not sure what that means because I I'm not privy. Is that good or bad? Yeah, I'm not privy to what everybody else is saying. They say, and they said, You actually think that Jesus is a Shiach, is is Messiah of Hebrew Bible. I said, of course. Of course. What what else could he be? And they said, We've never heard that before, right? Uh they weren't uh accustomed to hearing the old testament read in its plain normal understanding that leads to Christ. They were having people, you know, read Jesus back in in a very allegorical creative interpretation, you know, oh, you know, this represents that or that type of thing. And and uh and they're just over there rolling their eyes, going, you know, that has nothing to do with you know Leviticus chapter six or Leviticus seven or whatever. Um uh and so uh all of that to say uh that um that the Bible leads to Christ in a plain reading. But when we go back to the Old Testament and we lose the plain reading, we lose Christ. We really do. And we lose the proof of Christ to anyone who would go back to be a Berean, right, these Jewish Bereans, go back to see if these things are so. You know, Paul was not commending, Luke was not commending the Bereans for going back and adopting an allegorical, typological, creative, non-literal interpretation to see Jesus in Old Testament passages where there was no intention for Jesus to be. Um, all the law, all the prophets, all the psalms speaks of me. So that goes back to why we started this discussion. Uh that all these details, the high priest, the priestly uh this is all going to find its culmination in the person of the great high priest Christ and the sacrifice of himself.

unknown 27:29

Right?

Dr. David Klingler 27:29

So he's not only the priest, he's the sacrifice, right? Uh and so everyone who touches the sacrifice becomes clean. Well, that well, that's really quite instructive. And uh, and if you have a if you have a wrong with your brother, all of this stuff is moving forward in the progress of the of the story. So all of that to say, and I know we're running a little bit long here, uh all of that to say that uh that chapters six, really six, eight, uh, through the end of chapter seven uh are explaining the priest's role in this sacrificial

From Leviticus To Christ The High Priest

Dr. David Klingler 28:12

system. Uh and and so um uh and so it's very important that we understand this. We'll jump down to the end of chapter uh chapter seven. So you if you want to, and I'd come recommend that you you read through this, uh, because when you read through this, you'll see places where, well, I didn't know it said that in the old testament. That's kind of like what Jesus did, exactly. And so the New Testament authors aren't changing the meaning, they're showing you that Jesus is functioning like the sacrifice, like the high priest, like the you know, the the law uh uh uh instructs and requires. Uh and so these uh the so uh this is what is consecrated on in verse 35, chapter seven, verse uh thirty five, um uh uh uh to Aaron, which is uh consecrated to his sons from the offering by fire to the Lord in the day that he presented them to serve as priests to the Lord. Uh these the Lord had commanded to be given from the sons of Israel in that day that he anointed them. It is their due forever throughout their generations. This is the law of the burnt offering, the grain offering, the sin offering, the guilt offering, the ordination offering, the sacrifice of the peace offering, which the Lord commanded Moses uh at Mount Sinai in the day that he commanded the sons of Israel to present their offering to the Lord in the wilderness of Sinai, and they do it. So next time, we'll pick it up in chapter chapter eight, and the instruction that began in um you know back in the book of Exodus, uh, concerning the tabernacle, they did it. Concerning the priestly garb and function and roles that are in that are instructed in Exodus, uh, and the sacrificial system, the means by which they're to do it, which is revealed in the first seven chapters of Leviticus, they're going to start doing it in chapters eight and chapters nine, and we're gonna run into this problem pretty quickly with Aaron's sons who say, Well, we'll just do it our way. Yeah, that's not gonna work, right? Uh, and so we're we're going to um, you know, we've we've heard the instruction, right? We've heard through Moses' testimony directly from the Lord what he instructed Moses and Aaron and the sons and all of Israel to do. And now we're going to see if they do it. The storyteller is going to say, and here's what happened. You know, so Moses did just as the Lord commanded him. When the congregation assembled, this is what they did, and this is the garb, you know, the the the the you know the clothes that he put on Aaron and his sons, and he consecrated them as was foretold, and the sacrificial system started as was foretold, right? And so we're going blow by blow uh through this, and so we'll pick that up next time in chapter chapter eight.

Phil Porter 31:04

Sounds great. So we're just gonna keep trucking along, and uh this is gonna become, yeah, I think it's a good challenge that you actually made to us just reading it and seeing how uh what your what your mind may pull in from Jesus' words. Yeah, this is and yeah, and the uh the uh apostles

How Torah Proves Jesus Fulfills

Phil Porter 31:27

as well.

Dr. David Klingler 31:27

Yeah, it's crazy. Um I remember when I was driving back and forth uh to uh to Dallas uh doing my seminary, uh you know, going to school years, uh but this is back in the days of CDs, right? We I would listen to Deuteronomy on the drive at four in the morning, you're going, really? What you know? Um and it was shocking to me how I'm wait a second, I didn't know Deuteronomy says that. That's like Jesus. And you know, I didn't know that Leviticus said that. And so I would listen to Torah on the way, and all of those details became so relevant. And then as I studied the Old Testament more, uh, the same thing that was happening in the Old Testament stories uh was was the same thing that was happening in the gospels. Jesus is, and it and when you start to think about it, it makes perfect sense. How would you prove that Jesus is the promised one, the fulfillment of the law? Well, he'd have to show through his words and works that he is doing what was required in the law. He is the sacrifice, he is the high priest, he is all of these things. Uh, and so this is what the New Testament authors are showing. Uh and so my my point with the with the you know getting on the bus and all that is uh even these Israelites uh who didn't believe in Jesus the next day, um, they asked me, I I remember now, it was it was towards the end of the day, and we went to this shop. So the next day they asked me, Do is there a New Testament in Hebrew? Written in Hebrew? And I was like, Well, I'll sure try to find one, you know, because everybody who goes there tries to evangelize them, right? They're trying to, well, Jesus is the fulfillment of the Old Testament, but they can't show them how Jesus is the fulfillment of the Old Testament, other than making stuff up. But when we understand it in a plain way, and these guys were were convinced. I never got to hear how that story ended. Maybe one day uh we'll you know they'll we'll see them uh with the the Lord, but um but I know this uh Jesus is the fulfillment in a very literal, plain reading of all of the law and the prophets and the psalms, all the Tanakh, all Old Testament, uh the word became fleshed. He walked on to the scene, and we dare not change the definitions, we dare not change the words to make it fit our theology, or we will miss Jesus if we do it, right? And so it's just uh this says a huge uh um um old Dr. Leitner, one of my old systematic theology uh professors, if something was important and was going to be on the final exam, he'd say that's that's a that's a foot stomper. And he'd he'd stomp his feet while he was saying it. He's like, This is this is a foot stomper. In other words, this is going to be on the final exam. What this is really important. Well, this is a foot stomper. Yeah, don't change it, right? Read it and watch it develop in the story. And it's just amazing to watch it, watch it, uh, how it works out.

Phil Porter 34:29

Yeah, and how it's uh how some of this stuff is being brought to light, it you know, takes me until where Jesus says, I didn't come to destroy, I came to fulfill. So that in light now is becoming more real.

unknown 34:44

Yeah.

Phil Porter 34:44

Of what fulfilling the law means. And so, yeah, that's this has been great. Next time we'll jump into chapter eight and we'll see how far we get. Obviously, there's a lot more to it. So we're just gonna see how much more he fulfilled. It'll be great. All right, we'll see you next time.

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Phil Porter 35:02

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