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Explain to them"},{"speaker":"Adrjan Scekic","startTime":494.48,"endTime":497.24,"body":"like,oOkay, how do you get in"},{"speaker":"Adrjan Scekic","startTime":497.24,"endTime":500.12,"body":"what's wrong with the money"},{"speaker":"Adrjan Scekic","startTime":497.24,"endTime":500.12,"body":"system, etc. But when we were"},{"speaker":"Adrjan Scekic","startTime":500.12,"endTime":503.96,"body":"looking in the into this, we"},{"speaker":"Adrjan Scekic","startTime":500.12,"endTime":503.96,"body":"figured out that there was a lot"},{"speaker":"Adrjan Scekic","startTime":503.96,"endTime":508.43,"body":"of people doing that better than"},{"speaker":"Adrjan Scekic","startTime":503.96,"endTime":508.43,"body":"we could. 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