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From Student to Coach: Mike Benitez's Boxing Journey
Boxing isn't just about landing punches—it's about landing purpose in young lives. Meet Michael Benitez, founder of Mutopia Boxing and Fitness in Winchester, Virginia, whose passion for the sport transcends the ring and enters the realm of youth transformation.
Starting with nothing but a football pad tied to a pole after his father's gym closed, Mike has built an 8,000-square-foot sanctuary where kids discover their inner strength. "I got a lot of parents that come in and the kids with them, the kids quiet, man, they just won't speak," Mike shares. "I work with them for two weeks and the parents come back and are like, 'Man, what'd you do to my kid? He won't shut up now.'" This remarkable metamorphosis happens within a judgment-free zone where young people find their voice, confidence, and community.
Mike's approach balances technical boxing instruction with life lessons about responsibility and restraint. "This is something that if I teach you, I don't want you to take it outside of my gym unless you have to," he tells his students, echoing his father's wisdom. The individualistic nature of boxing—what Mike calls a "me versus me sport"—creates accountability that team sports sometimes can't provide. For kids who haven't yet found themselves, this personal journey becomes transformative.
The conversation explores Mike's own boxing career (currently 5-2 with professional aspirations), his analysis of the Crawford-Canelo fight, and his passionate advocacy for bringing boxing programs to schools. Despite facing institutional resistance, he makes a compelling case for boxing as a tool for building discipline rather than promoting violence.
Whether you're curious about boxing, interested in youth mentorship, or simply love stories of community impact, tune in to discover how Mutopia Boxing is changing lives one glove at a time. Find Mike at mutopiaboxing.com or visit him at 661 Millwood Avenue in Winchester. As he says, "If you dream about it, you think about it, make it happen."
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Speaker 2:We back everybody. Welcome to BWL. I don't know what Chris is doing. He ain't ever ready. Welcome back to BWL. We're about to have a great guest on today Michael Benitez of Metopia Boxing and Fitness everyone. So please hit the subscribe button to our YouTube channel and follow us on Facebook and all that stuff. Like I said, I don't know what Chris is doing right now, but we're going to add Michael Benitez and welcome him to the show everyone. Okay, I was like what is he doing? We're going to add Michael in here and welcome him to the show everybody. Thanks for tuning in. We'll get Michael in here and welcome him to the show everybody. So thanks for tuning in. So we'll get Michael in here. Mike, can you hear us?
Speaker 3:Yes, sir, hey, what's going on? How y'all doing, how y'all doing.
Speaker 2:Good, good. So today the platform is yours, sir. You were with. Do I have it correct, it's Mutopia? Yes, sir, Boxing and fitness in Winchester? Yeah. So you want to start off, introduce yourself and what you do for the community with your business and everything, the boxing and stuff, 100% man.
Speaker 3:This is Coach Mike with Mutopia Boxing and Fitness. We're here located in Winchester, virginia. Man, honestly, it's just to inspire. Honestly, we just we're trying to grow the kids and that's it, man. It's just give back. You know what I mean and you know we have a lot of kids who come in and just I wouldn't say, depressed, but they don't know, they ain't found themselves yet. So you know, really just you know, and first off I want to start with, you know, shout out to my team, because if it wasn't for my team, it wouldn't be possible. You know what I mean. It would just be me, you know, trying to make ends meet and do what I do, but at the same time, my man is my team with me. So you know.
Speaker 2:Right, right. So so what? I'm curious myself because I'm not sure how did you get into about, what was your interest and when did you start, you know? I mean like, how did you get into all this?
Speaker 3:yeah, shout out, pops man, my dad honestly you know chris, chris knows you know my dad, uh, had a boxing gym and you know me, after school, I really didn't know what I wanted to do. I was, you know, into football and stuff like that, but it just team sports wasn't me. You know what I wanted to do? I was, you know, into football and stuff like that, but it just team sports wasn't me. You know what I mean. So I found boxing and you know my dad always wanted me to do it, but you know I was young and didn't want to listen to him and everything. But you know, one day after school, it just it just clicked to me and, you know, started going to the gym, started hitting the bag and you, you know it was never like me wanting to get into it seriously, but you know, finally, I was like you know what this is a me, a me versus me, sport, you know what I mean so nobody's fighting for you, it's just you and yourself.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. So if you don't put the work in, that's, that's a reflection on you. You know what I mean. So my dad, it all, that, all it all comes back to my dad all right.
Speaker 2:Well, praise, praise, pops, and I mean you're right, me and chris me and chris were talking about this it's it's different. Individual sports like boxing, wrestling. You know like it's you against you. You know you're your biggest competition, different from team, and I feel you know you can, you can elaborate on that. You know building confidence and this you know in these kids.
Speaker 3:Yeah that's what it is, man, they, they. You know I got a lot of parents that come in and you know the kids with them, the kids quiet, man, they just won't speak. And I work with them for two weeks and you know the parents come back and like, man, what'd you do to my kid because he won't shut up now, right, so it's just, you know, and you know a lot of kids, man, they don't want to open up to the parents. You know what I mean. It's just, it's natural, it's a kid thing. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:And the kids come in and they open up and you know they just they're able to vent. You know, I mean, because it's a no judgment zone in my gym, right, you know we, we're, we're here, you know I mean we're mentors, we try to enroll positivity and and that's that's it, man, yeah the main thing is confidence, so of course self-defense right teaches teaches them that a hundred percent, and you know in the right way you know I had a kid come into the gym today and you know I want to learn boxing.
Speaker 3:you know, but hey, this is something that if I teach you, I don't want you to take it outside of my gym unless you right, right. I mean, like you know, my dad growing up was like, hey, I don't want you to take it outside of my gym unless you Right, right. I mean. You know my dad growing up was like, hey, man, don't fight unless I put their hands on you first. Right, and you know I still go by some rules that my dad used to give me. So you know I learned a lot from him and that's what I still instill in my kids now.
Speaker 2:Well, it's like my dad would say, and I'm sure your dad says it's like don't start it, just finish it.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Right yeah. So what have you got? Any events, anything going on Like what do you guys? Because you guys do personal training right as well, we do personal training.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my gym's private man.
Speaker 3:I want the kids who want to better themselves. You know what I mean. People are like man, you know, I couldn't find your website. You know, if you don't know me personally you don't have me on Facebook, you don't have me on Instagram you probably don't know about my gym. You know what I mean. It takes. It takes.
Speaker 3:I want to see who wants them. You got to find my gym, you got to find me. You got to. You know what I mean and when you walk into the gym, that that shows me. You know what I mean. So now I'm interested in you. Now I want to see what you're about, because you took the time to find the gym. People are like man, they sent me here, sent me here, hey, you showed up, that's all that matters. You walk through the door, I'm going to do my job and I'm very good at what I do. I like to think and I get them hooked. You know what I mean. Kid came into the gym today. He's like hey, you know, coach, I just want to see how you train. I want to see you training another kid. I mean smile from ear to ear. You know what I mean. He's like, yeah, I want to do it. All right, cool, I locked you in and I tell him you give me 100%, I'll give you 100%. Now let's match up at 110%.
Speaker 2:Now do you start at a certain age.
Speaker 3:Man, honestly, like with the kids, I usually do an hour session, hour and a half session to the guys who want to compete and everything like that, but at the same time with you know six year olds and five year olds, like your attention span, is not there yet.
Speaker 2:Trust me, I'm coaching third and fourth graders right now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:So I try to do 30 minutes with the young kids and it seems to me that, like I can get 30, a good 30 minutes out of them. And you know it's just again consistency. I tell the parents like, hey, man, I'm okay with you signing your kid up for one day a week, but at the same time bring them in more. You know what I mean. Get them, get them interested in it, and the more you do it, the more it'll sink in your brain. So, right, right.
Speaker 3:This is your full-time career, career right full time man, it's the only thing I want to do. People tell me, like, why don't you get a you know real job? Hey, man, you worry about you. I'm doing what I love to do. I go to work. I'm not mad about what I'm doing. Nobody's telling me what to do. I'm doing what I love no, no lie.
Speaker 4:Most of us would love to do something like that. We don't really. Most of us don't do exactly what we love, and you're blessed when you're able to do that. So for you to be able to do that, yeah, it doesn't matter what nobody else thinks, man and you're making a difference in people's lives, especially young people, but nobody we hate working for the man.
Speaker 4:That's the way to keep it real. We hate working for the man and you're doing something big and you're doing it for yourself, a true entrepreneur man. Big respect to that man appreciate that man. Yeah, you know, and I know, besides you looking just like Pops right now like I would always get you guys confused.
Speaker 2:On being honest, I'm like they look just alike. I don't know which is which man. That's totally common.
Speaker 4:Besides, you looking just like him, like yeah, we grew up a lot and I looked up to Big Mike too, man, because he's a few years older than me and I to me and I, I appreciate what you do and no lie, man, including your pops man. We all wish we could do exactly what we love every day and not have to go work for the man man, I love it, I love it.
Speaker 4:I wouldn't want it any other way right, right, so shout out how can people become a member of your gym or how can people become someone that you train besides having to find you because they really want it, like, how can they reach out to metopia and be like mike, I want to do this, and then they can come in and you see him, or whatever?
Speaker 3:find me on metopia boxing uh, metopia boxing on instagram or uh, michael benitez on facebook. Shoot me a message. Um, you know, we got a website and everything metopia boxingcom. Uh, shoot me an email. Shoot me a. Shoot me a message. We got a website and everything metoviaboxingcom. Shoot me an email. Shoot me a text. Give me a call, show up. Show up is what I prefer, but hey, give me a call, I'm going to make it work. Right. Right, I wake up. I think boxing, I wake up. I think I'm making my boys better, my young girls that I got. I want to make you better, you know, I mean, I'm trying to trying to be a role model man, trying to be positivity in our community and, and you know, boxing needs to come.
Speaker 2:It's big, it needs to be bigger.
Speaker 3:Oh I agree, we're about to get, we're about to get into that you have currently.
Speaker 4:You have everybody that's fighting and, like you, I've seen you going on the road with kids yeah, so.
Speaker 2:So how many of?
Speaker 4:those kind of classes do you have currently?
Speaker 3:Currently, I think, I'm at between me and my coach me personally, you know we work together and all but me personally, I think I'm traveling around with like eight kids right now.
Speaker 4:That are competing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that are competing.
Speaker 4:Nice and that one kid's 6-0.
Speaker 3:Yeah, my man Trey Fincham, he's 6-0.
Speaker 2:What weight? Class 125.
Speaker 3:125?. We need the heavyweights back. That's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:We need heavyweights back, but that's.
Speaker 3:Mike, mike's the heavyweight.
Speaker 4:That heavyweight division, mike, what's your record? If you don't mind me asking, 5-2.
Speaker 2:You hear that. Do you still fight or you just train?
Speaker 3:Honestly, my goal is to go pro.
Speaker 3:Okay, I'm over the amateur. You know it's a different style man. The pro and the amateurs are way different. You know, amateur is more output. You know what I mean. You got to be in the best condition of your life. You got to be able to throw punches like that's all they look for. You know what I mean. And I think, with the way that I was trained and the way that I trained myself, it was more of a pro style.
Speaker 3:Um, you know, believe it or not, I actually sparred, uh, the guy who fought on the canelo undercard, ivan drichko. Uh, the heavyweight, um, okay, and you know. So, just the experience that I've had, the experience man, the travel and it's. You know, and, honestly, when I went to pa to spar him, I I was a, I was a student, you know. I mean, I put the coaching to the side, I was learning, I went there to learn.
Speaker 3:Right, I'm sparring a guy who's sparred tyson fury, who's far deontay wilder, who's far anthony josh is for the top heavyweights in the world, man, and it was hey, look, I got my ass whooped, buck. It's not about that, it's about getting there, getting the experience and being able to say, hey, I stepped in the ring with a top 10 contender, right, I mean, and I'm always learning His coach, tommy Kello, man, great guy, shout out Dallas Brewer for taking me there. If it wasn't for him I wouldn't have went. But, man, the experience and it gave me a different eye on the coaching aspect of things. And, man, you dedicate your time and your people. Man, the sky's the limit.
Speaker 2:Right, Totally agree. I mean, that's all I didn't know. You were still like trying to fight, but that's awesome.
Speaker 4:Hey, good luck on that. You want to test them, you want to spar with them?
Speaker 3:I'll take it easy.
Speaker 2:I only fight when I have to. I'm not going to voluntarily get punched in the head. You guys are just a different breed, hey everybody who steps into the ring.
Speaker 3:You know, spectators are what makes boxing happen.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:But the boys who get in there, man it's, you're getting hit, you're going to get hit.
Speaker 4:It's a sport.
Speaker 3:You're going to get hit.
Speaker 4:Now how many people are on your team that help at the gym?
Speaker 3:Man, I got like seven or eight.
Speaker 4:I also at the gym, man, I got like seven or eight that also helps train other people too.
Speaker 3:Right, because you can't train everybody. Yeah, I can't. You know what I mean. And and honestly, uh, my other, my assistant boxing coach, coach, green front row guy um, you know, he's been in my dad's gym before I even started boxing and you know, unfortunately my dad closed down his gym and man just the boxing yeah, winchester boxing.
Speaker 3:I started with nothing when my dad closed down. You know, unfortunately, my dad closed down his gym. Manchester boxing yeah, Manchester boxing. I started with nothing when my dad closed down. You know, working downtown trying to make some money, Because I always knew what I wanted to do. Like you said, man, I didn't want to work for the man.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I'm with you.
Speaker 3:I was okay with it for the time being but, man, I knew I wanted my own place. I got a football pad and I had a pole. I tied the football pad to the pole and, man, my clients just kept coming, kept coming, and the gym grew, went from 3 000 square feet to I mean, I'm sitting at almost eight right now. You know, got a boxing ring, got a team full of trainers, got a fight team, you know. You know everything you need in the gym. We make it work nice so hey that's awesome, you know.
Speaker 2:Work from the bottom up, yes, and that's great perseverance, man, as I tried instilling kids to work hard and strive for your goals if you think, if you, if you want it, you'll go get it right. Gotta work for it I keep telling chris talk it into fruition to make it at, talk it into existence. Yep 100, yeah, yeah, so do you have any? Yep. So do you have any big fights like lined up that you would like you with yourself or the you know, the boys you're training?
Speaker 3:um, so some of my guys that are fighting for me right now, my man Trey, he's got them lined up. I'm trying to keep them as active as possible. Soon, probably, hopefully next year we'll make it out to nationals. We're looking at October 4th, we're looking at October 18th, we're looking at October 25th. Then we'll go to Ohio November 8th, just keeping them active, man.
Speaker 2:Right right.
Speaker 3:And then for myself, I'm hoping to turn pro next year, talking to a couple managers trying to make ends meet and, you know, go from there.
Speaker 2:Nice, nice. Now who's your?
Speaker 3:trainer Myself. Ah, so when you go pro too, you're the one in the corner um, you know I have, I'll have a a guidance guy I'm looking at, uh, dallas brewer um, the guy that took you to fight that that guy or whatever right yeah, looking at him, um man, really it's, it's.
Speaker 3:It's funny because my last couple fights it's really been people just giving me water in the corner, really just give me some water my last fight man, I fought a dude who shorts nah, I wouldn't say shorts 6'1 stocky, built like a refrigerator man so what class are you?
Speaker 2:Are you heavyweight?
Speaker 3:Heavyweight. Yes, sir.
Speaker 2:I figured you was a heavyweight class.
Speaker 4:Yeah, might as well take out.
Speaker 2:Hey, we need you to bring that heavyweight class back.
Speaker 3:Hey, we need to man.
Speaker 2:To prominence man.
Speaker 3:That's the goal. I'm trying to have a. I'm trying to represent our town, man Winchester, you know what I mean Trying to have a heavy weight, trying to do something in boxing and again I'm here to lead by example. I mean, I feel like sometimes You're representing already. Yeah, I feel like sometimes.
Speaker 4:If you make it big and do your thing, you're going to represent more than Winchester, the DMV and Virginia are going to claim you Right. That's how Mike's at home.
Speaker 2:You know how that goes.
Speaker 4:By Tennessee. They're going to claim you.
Speaker 2:Everybody trying to claim you, the bigger you get. But no, you know, we wish you the best man.
Speaker 4:We hope everything goes well and works out for the best. Like you said, be positive, speak into existence, manifest it, but you go. I grew up in so many different locations as a kid, you know, grew up in.
Speaker 3:Born in Winchester, grew up in so many different locations. As a kid, you know, grew up in uh, born in winchester, grew up in tennessee, um, you know, moved out to west v. Lived here for a little bit during my middle school years you was in diane yep, I was in gallenberg, tennessee gosh okay, so you know it's all over.
Speaker 2:Support from everywhere, man, I love it so you know it's all over support from everywhere. Man, I love it, right, right. So you have any big plant like business ventures? You know with us, you know events coming up. Do you do stuff in your own gym like have boxing matches and events?
Speaker 3:uh, no, I don't actually. But um, you know, the cool thing about it is is I'm able to hopefully eventually under usa boxing you're allowed to throw your own events. You know, got to get the doctors and the officials and everything but hopefully working again with Dallas Brewer and hopefully sometime soon throwing an event in Winchester Virginia. Just because I think it's it's not here, you know what I mean. In my gym, yes, it's here, but I want it in the community. I want people to be come out and see you know what boxing's and see you know what bison's about. You know what I mean and again, it's building self-defense and confidence.
Speaker 4:It's never been there, at least when I lived there, of course, like, yeah, your dad and you, you guys have pretty much brought it on the scene in the area because it's never been a thing over there. People got gloves before and fought, but most time it's street fighting. It's never been done like you're doing man, we hope you can continue to build it and grow it, Mike. What you're doing, that's an amazing thing and you're helping the youth. And you're helping people try to chase their dreams. Some of them can make it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, very true.
Speaker 4:That kid 6'0" man, he look promising.
Speaker 3:That kid Trey you said yeah, man, he looks promising. That kid Trey you said yeah, man, he's special.
Speaker 2:So what's his record?
Speaker 3:He's 6-0.
Speaker 2:So that's when he had the 6-0?
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's just he's coachable, he's hardworking, he's dedicated. You know what I mean? The kid sends me two miles forward, one mile backwards every morning before 7 am, you know. I mean he comes into the gym and then he'll come back to the gym fora strength training. He's just, he can't be outworked. I mean I'm like, dude, how are you not tired? And he's like I coach, I just want to do it.
Speaker 4:I'm like right, that's somebody that definitely has what it takes to make it oh man, dude, he's dude, he's special, he's special.
Speaker 2:Nice. So he's a gym right. He wants to be in the gym constantly.
Speaker 3:All the time, so he's actually helping me get kids into the gym now.
Speaker 2:Cool, awesome.
Speaker 3:You know he loves boxing, so he told me he wanted to do it. So hey, let's continue to build.
Speaker 4:Now when you make it professionally to build. Now, when you make it professionally, who's going to take over the reins of holding the gym down?
Speaker 3:Oh, I'm going to do it all.
Speaker 4:Because you're going to come back and it'll be like I'm going to do it all.
Speaker 2:Look, he already has his team, so when he's fighting, hopefully they can hold the fort down while he's fighting. Right, While you're away.
Speaker 3:If I'm going for a week, I depend on my people. Man, I trust my people. They're going to take care of me as I take care of them.
Speaker 2:Nice, and I don't think I have. Where is your gym exactly located?
Speaker 3:We are right across Shenandoah. We're at 661 Millwood Avenue.
Speaker 2:Okay, yep, all right, gotcha All right.
Speaker 3:So everybody knows that as well where you're located Right there in town, knows that as well where you're located Right there in town, nice.
Speaker 2:Well, that's right down the road for me, then I'll have to get my boys in there.
Speaker 4:You should get Quincy into it.
Speaker 3:They'll fall in love with it, man.
Speaker 4:He'd probably be a good one. It'd be something positive for him, man for real and, of course, working out with Mike man he's going to put him through the test, if Quincy ain out with Mike man he's going to put him through the test.
Speaker 3:If he ain't got it, then he'll quit. You get to punch people and not get in trouble.
Speaker 2:Right, hey, that's why I love football. I said it was you could illegally assault somebody.
Speaker 3:Hey, and I'm with that. You know what I mean. Hey, let's do it. I mean, I think boxing really just makes you grow as an individual. You know I mean, and you know in our gym. You know we're a team. You know what I mean. So we're not sitting there trying to hurt each other, but at the end of the day we are trying to get better right you know, I mean, and I think that's how a lot of sports should be right.
Speaker 2:Well, I love it, man, I love it. I love what you're doing it. It's positive getting the kids out there. Like you say, get their mind right first and foremost, just build confidence in themselves, self-confidence, 100%. So, chris, I think you wanted to talk about the fight.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I was going to ask you, Mike.
Speaker 4:I actually got to see Crawford a few years ago because my favorite boxer is Teofimo Lopez and I went to see him fight and Crawford a few years ago because my favorite boxer is Teofimo Lopez and I went to see him fight and Crawford fought right after him and I was like, oh shit, I didn't even know he was going to be at the fight, because I really just went to see Lopez and he's a beast. And now we've seen it. He fought Canelo, being also on top of your half black and half Mexican, but Crawford got him, no matter what people say. He was running, but you don't land more punches if you're running. You know what I mean. He was being strategic. Another get you in that corner.
Speaker 4:It's gonna be tough yeah, right, but I want to know your thoughts and takes on that whole fight man um is this the best fight you've had in a while?
Speaker 3:I think it's. I think it's elaborate when you say it's the best fight that we've had in a while.
Speaker 4:I guess because there's not too many big names out there. Okay, so it would be a bigger name fight. You know what I mean? Something that's so called blockbuster right those guys have been doing it forever.
Speaker 3:I think my whole output on the fight is you gotta give Terrence Crawford his roses. I think he dared to be great. I think Canelo dared to be great. I feel like my opinion and I don't mean it may come off biased because I've been a Canelo fan since before I started boxing but Again, he won, he won. I think it was a quote. In my eyes it was a little closer than what a lot of people are saying it out to be. You got to think two judges had it a draw. One judge had Terrence Crawford up 115 to 113. Is decreasing as a fighter. I think he's going down. I think a lot of you know. You got to think Canelo fights what? Three times a year. Terrence Crawford fought one time in the last 16, 17 months.
Speaker 4:Yeah, so Crawford's almost three years older, but Canelo's fought a lot more, so he's the same age basically, if not older because of his fights.
Speaker 3:Right, you know, it's just one of those things, man, I think there's a lot of things that canelo could have done to actually win that fight, because I do think he could have beat terrence crawford. Um, I think the lack of the jab honestly I want to say that the lack of the communication in the corner, um, I think a coach pays a big role in trying to get your fighter motivated, and it's all about what you say to him, because, because he's the only person you talk to in a whole 12 rounds, you know, but Terrence Crawford is a great boxer, he's a technician, he knows what he's doing, he controls distance well, and everybody thought that Canelo was the bigger fighter, but I think in watching the fight, terrence Crawford looked like the bigger fighter.
Speaker 4:He did and I was trying to tell my buddy I watched the fight with. I was like Crawford is a straight student. He went to the last six years of Canelo fights ringside and watched and studied all of his films, everything. I'm like he knew and studied everything. He wasn't worried at all. He, just he. That's how much of a student he was. He was like I've seen everything, I know everything. I will beat him and I think boxing wise I was. I think canelo wasn't ready for so much jabs like croft were giving all them jabs like canelo's not used to that right would you agree?
Speaker 3:I would agree. And you know what's funny is? I don't think Canelo threw but 20 jabs the entire fight.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that's not his fight.
Speaker 3:Nope, and you know it's easy.
Speaker 2:So elaborate on that. Speak the importance of the jab it's the most important.
Speaker 3:Hey, it's the most important punch. Every coach will tell you, every fighter will tell you that jab dictates everything. Yeah you can control your opponent yep and terence crawford I do know that little bit about boxing like it is the most important punch man and you know, I think me when I started boxing it was six months of my left hand right, because you're not left-handed right yep, no, I no, I'm right-handed, but it was work on the left hand, work on the jab, work on the left hand, that's your off hand Yep.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, Like when.
Speaker 4:I swing with my left hand. I feel weak Like. You know what I mean, so I understand it.
Speaker 2:That's why you'd be working with your left hand for a year. Oh yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, man question. Yes, sir, who do you think is the greatest boxer of all time? Because now, now, what's up in the air? People are. People are saying crawford, let's say, this era, let's say this era.
Speaker 2:I apologize first because I've gotten out of boxing like I didn't watch the fight. Yeah, I stopped watching, basically when tyson, like I wasn't in with You're not that old Tyson, but I mean, I'm just being honest, I was a heavyweight, like you know.
Speaker 1:He was a big one, Because I would say honestly, to me the best fighter is Mike Tyson.
Speaker 2:Like I always tell people, I'm a little biased maybe, but man, when that man struck fear like nobody wanted to fight a young Mike Tyson that was hungry.
Speaker 4:He's my favorite. Ever too, mike, he's definitely my favorite. I think our whole generation grew up on Mike. I think there could be a difference between the best and the greatest, because if we're saying greatest, it's got to be. I can't think of the white guy's name. From way back in the day he was like 39-0. 49-0. And then Muhammad Ali was named Mayweather, and now Terrence Crawford. Those guys have finished their careers, at least unless Terrence fights again. He might fight Canelo again, but they're undefeated.
Speaker 2:That's got to be the greatest. Muhammad Ali is not the greatest of all. You want to see a rematch?
Speaker 4:100% they might do it, plus the money will be crazy.
Speaker 3:And see, I think, what are the options? You vacate the belt or you fight again.
Speaker 4:Yeah, and if he knows he can beat him, then fight him again.
Speaker 3:Here's my thing, because if you beat, somebody twice, then it's not a fluke. Right, I feel like Canelo was already at the top. And he says he trained hard, which I'm going to believe him. Terrence Crawford has something to go get, yeah he wanted it. Yeah, he wanted it more.
Speaker 4:Canelo's been at it.
Speaker 2:So, mike, I know you're younger than us, so who's your greatest To answer your question? Who do you think is the greatest boxer of all time? You're going to cause some controversy, probably.
Speaker 3:I'm going Canelo. You really I'm going Canelo. I think that over Mayweather, Mayweather's tough man.
Speaker 4:But Mayweather beat him. That's why I'm asking too. The only losses he had was just recently, and then against Crawford and Mayweather. He beat everybody else. He beat my boy, miguel Cotto. I was pulling for Cotto back in them days.
Speaker 3:I'm going to say the greatest boxer In my mind, floyd. Now my all-time favorite fighter, greatest fighter, canelo just because that's the difference I feel like canelo didn't. Canelo didn't pick his opponents. I mean, he fought everybody who, if you said he couldn't fight him, canelo fought him yeah, he didn't back down and he didn't back down, so he wasn't fight him.
Speaker 2:Canelo fought him.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he didn't back down and he didn't back down from the boards.
Speaker 2:So he wasn't ducking that wreck out there. No, no, no, nobody.
Speaker 3:Nobody. I think Canelo has also done more for boxing than any of those other fighters that we're talking about.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 3:If you look at resumes Terrence Crawford's resume people are. You know, I've been talking about this all week in the gym. It's all right. Well, you're saying that Canelo was the best, but Terrence Crawford's resume?
Speaker 4:now has Canelo on it Right. And he hasn't lost yet, even though he hasn't fought the same opponents, but he's been way smaller weight classes his whole career.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 4:So there's differences. That's why I say the same thing with like basketball stuff. I'm like you can't really compete centers versus guards and 40 years apart, just because there's so much differences. Yeah, in boxing, mike tyson might be my favorite, but I can't. I can't compare him and say nothing about mayweather, because they would have never had to fight, because tyson's weight class is too bad, and that's the the thing, it's the weight class thing, yeah. So apparently, from now on, mayweather says he's the best and we can't lie to him he's what 52-0?
Speaker 3:Yeah, if we're going back y'all, tom, I like Sean Morrison Heavyweight. Yeah he was nice oh.
Speaker 2:I remember yeah.
Speaker 3:Is it Sean Morrison? Yeah, you're talking about Tommy. You're talking about Tommy Moore. He's from.
Speaker 2:Rocky yeah.
Speaker 3:Right. Hey, if he wouldn't have gotten to all that trouble that he got in, I think he'd have been up there. Tommy Machine got worse, you might be right.
Speaker 2:Yeah, because he was coming up there and then he got in that trouble or whatever. Yeah.
Speaker 3:Man, he was a bad dude.
Speaker 2:Yeah, he was bringing it back up to you. I'm with you on that one. I forgot about Tommy Morrison, yeah.
Speaker 4:A fun one for you real quick. And we can keep going on whatever you guys want to talk about, but favorite boxing movie.
Speaker 2:Oh, Rocky.
Speaker 4:You both know.
Speaker 3:Rocky, okay, hold on.
Speaker 4:Because there's so many parts of Rocky too, Because I love Creed, but I won't count that one.
Speaker 3:I was about to say. If you're talking about generations, Rocky's a good one, but what about Creed? Creed's fire, it's the same thing.
Speaker 4:What about the Hurricane?
Speaker 2:Creed is good. What is it the?
Speaker 4:Hurricane was a good one, denzel.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I forgot. Yeah, that was a good one.
Speaker 3:Will Smith played in a boxing movie too Ali. He played Ali. I'm going Creed my generation. I'm going to stick with it. Creed, I'm going to lock Creed in on that one.
Speaker 2:I mean, I think everybody would say Creed, Like you say you're a younger generation, but Rocky, that Inspired a whole generation.
Speaker 4:You know what I mean. Which Rocky, though? Tony, there's six of them. Rocky won.
Speaker 2:Rocky. Rocky won. Yeah, of course. My dad even told me when that came. He said it motivated him to eat raw eggs and start like everyone was inspired in the 70s. When did it come out? 78?
Speaker 3:Like before that I just had a woman come in saying she watched Rocky so she wanted to start boxing.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean honestly, it's a very inspirational People get motivated. Shit, I get motivated. They're watching this.
Speaker 4:I thought yours was Million Dollar Baby.
Speaker 2:Hey, that was a good movie. No lie, it wouldn't have to. Yeah with the girl. Yeah, that was a good movie. No lie. Yeah with the girl. Yeah, that was a good movie. What was the one with? Did Woody Harrelson do a boxing?
Speaker 4:movie. They were like the Great White Hype or something. Yeah, I think that was more comedy. Mike, who's some inspirations in your life Boxing, or non-boxing. My son man, my son Tell the world his name for those that don't know it. My little man Crew.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's the hope for you, just one self Been a father for going on a little over a year now, and man it changed my life, man, you know, it's just. I think you know to touch on a little emotional side of things, man, I think fathers and you guys are fathers, you sacrifice a lot for your family. That's the hard part, man. Really it's like Cruz, my son, but I got a lot of kids because I consider all my kids at the gym, my own.
Speaker 4:They are.
Speaker 3:The most important one is is, you know, at my house, you know, when I go into the gym at six o'clock in the morning, 5, 30 in the morning, and you know I don't see my son all day, so so it makes me happy to come home to him and and my lady, um, but, yeah, man, those are my inspirations. Uh, them too. And you know, I got gotta give credit to my mom and my dad, um, you know, they brought me here. So, all right, yeah, them too, man, I'm with you man having kids.
Speaker 2:It keeps you going. Yeah, yeah, great father.
Speaker 4:That's wild man I won't get into it, no more than this. But tony, you already know mike knows, but so I. I lived with his mom and his aunt growing up.
Speaker 4:I looked up to his dad. We played ball all the time at the Civics. I used to go watch him play football and stuff at Clark County. But it's wild man I remember being when I lived in Preston Place. Mike lived in Preston Place and little Mike was like one two years old man. Me and big Mike would play Madden and stuff. Now look, you're a grown man with your own business doing big things, man.
Speaker 3:Appreciate that man.
Speaker 4:That's fire. It's amazing to see that whole life come and go and now you're a grown man and you have your little seed.
Speaker 2:It's amazing, it's almost full circle.
Speaker 3:Blessings, man, blessings. It's good stuff, it's just stuff. You know what I mean. It's just continuing, that's all. That's all I want to do is, man, is continue to give back, continue to inspire, continue to, you know, be there for my family and provide for my family as much as I can, man. That's it.
Speaker 4:Hey, we're handling guys, but now that I think about it, it seems like the new kids on the block got the most successful athletes, and that's Millbrook.
Speaker 3:You think so?
Speaker 4:Tony, you got to keep it real. We got Mike, we got Najee Johnson or whatever two-time Super Bowl champ already.
Speaker 2:Chris, you got a point. He's the only one to go to NBA from our schools. Well, listen what Millbrook Millbrook got all the times. How long was Millbrook built?
Speaker 4:They weren't there when we went to school. They came in the 2000s.
Speaker 3:Don't forget about Eric Green. I was going to say Eric.
Speaker 4:Green. He's the only one who went to the NBA. Yep.
Speaker 2:But I mean what Y'all got everybody. They already got in their short time, but they won a state in basketball.
Speaker 4:In basketball, yeah, with Eric and Jordan, sugars and Claytons and all them Did they win one?
Speaker 2:Did they get a football when PK was?
Speaker 4:there. No, they didn't win. No, state football.
Speaker 3:I think, they fell short.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they had a good run, but I mean, hey, they're short, they had some athletes come out of there.
Speaker 4:Yeah, Way more than just that. But I'm saying big-time athletes, yeah, y'all got to give love because Millbrook wasn't there when I went to school, right?
Speaker 3:And you know it's odd man, because I went to Hanley my sophomore junior and half of my senior year and graduated from Millbrook like I want to say like the last quarter of school Really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you moved. My dad did the same thing, and then he graduated from Hanley like his senior year.
Speaker 1:I played basketball.
Speaker 3:Played basketball at Millbrook Yep and that was it, wow, and graduated 2017, man Feels like forever ago.
Speaker 2:So are you a judge or Millbrook? What is it?
Speaker 3:Or just the kids period. If I had to claim a school man, I'm going with Hanley man. You can't down Hanley. It's a a school man. I'm going with Hanley man. You can't down Hanley. It's a great school man. They got a great program. I love the diversity that they have there. You can't beat it, man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean.
Speaker 4:I'm out in West Virginia now, but when my son goes to school, I want him to go to Hanley, and no lie, I got a lot of friends that grew up with this and with the Hanley and now they all live in West Virginia and Stephen City and shit and I'm like damn y'all kids ain't going there.
Speaker 3:Right.
Speaker 2:But that's funny. We just talked about diversity and stuff and with BPG last week being on Hanley's just such a diverse school it is and that's funny. You say that you want your kid to go there. Because of that I had a parent come to me I won't name no names, the kid's only in seventh. But he's like how do I enroll him in Hanley? My kid wants to go to Hanley and the first thing he said is like that's how he grew up. You know diversity and that's a great thing because you're around a lot of different people.
Speaker 3:I feel like at Hanley man, you, you, you learn not to judge people by the image of their. You know what I mean.
Speaker 2:And with the way the world is today.
Speaker 3:Man, I feel like you. Everybody needs to be around black, white, Hispanic, chinese, asian, don't matter what it is.
Speaker 4:That's why I love New York man.
Speaker 3:There's nothing like it here.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:Yeah, no lie. And then the whole area from Stephen City Front Row, what Berryville and whatever else the counties. Winchester is the so-called city of that area and it does have a lot of people Like a lot more different cultures and races of people that's moved in and been in the area. So they go to Hanley when they're in those city limits.
Speaker 2:And it's been like that, yeah, and it's been like that since Greenburn.
Speaker 4:Winchester won't ever build another school, a high school. They said they would never do it, so they're going to keep growing.
Speaker 3:I thought they were thinking about it.
Speaker 4:Not in Winchester, in the county In Frederick County is building another one.
Speaker 2:I mean I know yeah, frederick County is building that fourth one behind Abel Bird, and that's where the fourth, I think in the next year or two I think they've already broke ground, so it'll be a fourth one.
Speaker 3:Hey, you know what I would love to see?
Speaker 4:What's that?
Speaker 3:Boxing become a sport at high schools? That's what I was going to ask. How are you pushing that?
Speaker 2:How are you pushing that? Besides, when me and Chris were there, we had Mr Carpenter, who always wanted to put the gloves on, okay.
Speaker 3:So I had talked to the school um about doing, you know, trying to just promote my gym at the schools, because I really felt, like, you know, a lot of kids could use it. And they unfortunately told me that I was, or that they felt that I was, promoting fighting. So, you know, I I really don't think so. I think it's more so self-defense, right. And if you give kids opportunity to fight with gloves on again, I'm not trying to get them to do that, but at the same time I think it creates more discipline. Like me, man, you can say anything you want to me. I think it's built so much for myself. I don't get mad. We could have an argument on the street. I'm probably not going to hit you.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 3:You know what I mean. Unless you hit me first, you can say everything you want in the book. I'm going to laugh at you. You know what I mean. It just boxing just helped me so much, man, I don't get mad.
Speaker 4:I don't you know what I mean. I got a great counter for that.
Speaker 3:Go ahead. They promote people going to the Army when they get out of high school.
Speaker 4:Yeah, they allow those people into the high school hallways to get kids when they come out of classes.
Speaker 2:I remember Well, and the thing is too, look at wrestling.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I mean, come on, I mean you're not punching them in the yeah wrestling in its own right.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that's so violent. And Well yeah that's so violent and it's odd because college has boxing now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, college, you're right.
Speaker 2:We'll work on this and we'll get it in the schools. Mike, We'll pay it again it would be amazing.
Speaker 3:I think it would be amazing for the community and give kids a different outlet. You know, just again, self-defense, confidence. You got these kids who, man, they go home, they stay in the room all day. I mean they don't have no friends, they don't talk. I think in boxing man, you build a brotherhood, you build a sisterhood. You know what I mean. You build a family.
Speaker 2:And then also, like you previously mentioned, like you said, what Like team sports wasn't for you and that's for a lot of kids? Yeah, but it's something they can pick up an individual sport and, you know, maybe start to love it I mean, it's just like gym.
Speaker 3:People can get hurt in gym class why, not. Why not make boxing an elective? I bet you, I bet you, a lot of kids would pick boxing as an elective over another class oh sure, I'm sure you'd get a lot of kids.
Speaker 2:And that's the thing. It's elective. You're not forcing anybody to do it unless they want to. Yep, 100% yeah.
Speaker 4:Yeah, that'd be dope man. Y'all should no lie, mike, we're going to have some of the school board, the Winchester Public School Board, on in a couple of weeks.
Speaker 3:We of weeks, we'll hook you all up, I'll bring it up to him and man, I would, I would love to hop on that call for five minutes just to talk to him.
Speaker 2:Okay, we will make it happen?
Speaker 3:yeah, I would love to, and just to see an opinion and their input right, right, yeah, hey, get, uh, constructive criticism. We, you know, get some feedback and and a no won't hurt me, a no won't hurt me. I'd rather you say no than say that I'm promoting fighting. I'm not promoting violence, I'm promoting self-defense.
Speaker 2:Ultimately, it's a sport like everything else. They've already added what girls flag football is a big thing. Now they're getting that into the high schools, which is great.
Speaker 4:When people ask me to rank my top ten favorite athletes, Mike Tyson always makes it. I'll never leave him out.
Speaker 3:A hundred percent.
Speaker 4:It doesn't matter what sport it is. Boxing one of my favorite boxers makes it. Roy Jones is almost going to make it. You know what I mean. But I love him that much and I grew up just loving that sport of boxing and seeing him.
Speaker 3:Which one you got hired, MJ or LeBron?
Speaker 4:You said MJ or LeBron.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:Kobe.
Speaker 2:I was going to say the same thing, say different generations.
Speaker 4:I know Mike has what he has, but I got to witness Kobe's whole career. I was 15 in high school when Kobe came onto the scene and I really got to watch his whole career and I loved him to death before he even died. Like it has nothing to do with his death. Of course that's very unfortunate he's my favorite but come on, Chris, Now you're what.
Speaker 2:You were born in the 70s, I wasn't like I don't remember that vietnam stuff I go, I go, mj kobe and everybody else like okay, watching and.
Speaker 4:But he asked me michael lebron.
Speaker 2:I got mike over lebron oh yeah, I'm just saying, man like watching them two.
Speaker 4:Lebron is a phenomenal talent and his specimen is like no other. So Mike and Kobe couldn't touch him. But with that killer instinct that they have and that determination and will to be better and want more, most people don't have that. Who do you got? Who's your goat? He just doesn't have all this.
Speaker 2:I think Mike's trying to ask who's your goat of all that in basketball? In basketball who? So you put Kobe over Mike?
Speaker 4:I didn't know this Over MJ Kobe's my he said my GOAT, my favorite of all time is Kobe. I mean it's close, but me, I'm even a Laker fan. I'm a Lakers fan Penny Hardaway and Grant Hill.
Speaker 2:Look, I'm even a Laker fan and I put MJ over Kobe.
Speaker 3:But Kobe's a close second. I'm not a Luger fan. I want to say this, and you might disagree I don't think if there was no MJ, there wouldn't have been no Kobe. And if there was no Dr J there'd be no MJ.
Speaker 4:Wow, mike says it himself. You know what?
Speaker 2:I mean.
Speaker 4:Good point when they talk about it. That's why. Mike's like I can never say I'm the greatest because I didn't get to play against them. Old dudes, will Chamberlain and Jerry Wesson. I just think there's no answer. But if it's my favorite, it's Kobe. I would never knock anybody for saying Mike is better, but I wouldn't agree with people that say LeBron's better.
Speaker 3:Me neither Right. He had a and at the end of that.
Speaker 4:Yes, it's longevity that helps him and Kareem. But to be playing that long and you still haven't even caught Kobe, let alone Mike nah, he ain't the greatest.
Speaker 3:Yeah, he's got the most of everything when he's done.
Speaker 4:Too many different teams, he's got the most rings.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he's got more losses. Not hating he's been there more than most people ever. Phenomenal feats what he's done. I hate him. He's been there more than most people ever. Phenomenal feats what he's done. He lost six times, mike, to be honest, I heard a funny joke back in the day when LeBron lost his sixth ring and they kept comparing him and some white kid was on TikTok or Instagram and he was like if I have a girl come to my house six times this week and I hit all six times, but you have a girl come to my house six times this week and I hit all six times, but you have a girl come 10 times but you only hit four times, who's winning? I'm like whoa, like you came 10 times but you only hit four. She came six for me and I hit all six. I'm sorry to everybody out there you know they might not think that's a joke, but I said it, I thought it was hilarious and it made a good point.
Speaker 2:You're going to piss off a lot of LeBron, but I'm with you guys. I mean you got to win, you make it through the finals. If you're the supposed go, you got to pull it out.
Speaker 4:You got to win, but he's played with so many greats too.
Speaker 3:Mike went to the finals Six times, right Now he's got Luka. Mike went to the finals six times and won six times. Right, yeah, yeah, all six.
Speaker 4:Nobody even took him to a game seven in the finals.
Speaker 3:Come on, man, that's great.
Speaker 2:We got it done before that decided game Kobe's five and two. Five and two, yeah, cause they lost to the Pistons, but they never should have.
Speaker 3:And he lost to the South.
Speaker 2:So I don't want to hear this all about Kobe. Only one, because of Shaq. No, they needed each other first and foremost when they played. And then Kobe proved it after Shaq, he still won. Go look at that Laker roster and look what he won with.
Speaker 4:But he could have gave up on life when people were screaming he didn't win. In between Shaq leaving until he started going back to the finals. He didn't do much. This and that. I'm like. This dude was playing basketball practice or games, traveling back to Colorado every other day for his trial and going back and keep doing it. He was dropped 40 points in a row, like eight times. He dropped 81 that year. It was like, oh, he wasn't winning, like that. I'm like, yeah, but this dude was going to court like every other day during the whole season right he could have lost his freedom like he was dealing with all that.
Speaker 4:That's a lot to me, like I take all that stuff into account.
Speaker 2:Now do you feel Kobe should have won? Because what Kobe got? One MVP right.
Speaker 4:And so does Shaq, and so does Kevin Durant, but Steve Nash has two Like it's politics and everything. Now that's whack.
Speaker 2:Steve Nash getting it over Kobe was crazy Because I think Kobe averaged over what 30?
Speaker 4:He averaged 32, the year that he lost it to Steve.
Speaker 2:Nash yeah.
Speaker 4:It's fine, it's politics.
Speaker 2:We know.
Speaker 4:LeBron could have won more than four. It's politics.
Speaker 2:Yeah, right, right Like.
Speaker 4:I'll keep it real On that front. Mike could have won more than he won, but they want to switch it up sometimes and, to be honest, when they give it to Steve Nash and them it, they don't have any white people to give it to, so they're like, well, we're going to give it to the best one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, just keep it real.
Speaker 4:Yeah, I ain't going to lie. Now. They got to be happy because Cooper Flagg might end up being the real deal, but other than that, since Larry Bird it ain't been no great white American player.
Speaker 2:Right, it hasn't. So while we're going on, we're getting near the end of the show, big Mike. So you know anything you want to. Anybody you want to give shout-outs to or like again, you can tell everybody how to get in contact with you. Sign up anybody get into boxing.
Speaker 3:MutopiaBoxingcom. Mutopiaboxing on Instagram. Find me personally, Michael Benitez, on Facebook. Mutopiaboxing on Facebook. Man, if you want to come get it, you know what I mean, Just end all of y'all.
Speaker 4:Mr Bado, I love that.
Speaker 3:Right, if you want to come get it, man, don't let nobody judge you. You know what I mean. Just, you're your own person. I mean you can accomplish things. You know, if you dream about it, you think about it. Dream about it, you think about it, make it happen. I mean, shout out to my team, shout out to kwan, chris ashley, sarah trey, ricky, all of us, man, we're, we're on the same, we're on the same path. Uh, trying to, you know, give back to the community, be a positive role model for a lot of people in the community. And you know, no matter the age, no matter how young you are, how old you are boy, girl, whatever you are, we don old, you are boy, girl, whatever you are, we don't judge. Just come get better, right.
Speaker 2:Well, hey, Mike, it was great having you on and, like I say, hey, we'll reach out to let you know about you, know the school board or whatever. Let you jump on for it, because when we have them guys on to try to get that boxing into the school system, that'd be awesome.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 4:One more them guys on to try to get that boxing into the school system.
Speaker 3:That'd be awesome. Yeah, we got you one more shout out, shout out, shout out. Y'all love what y'all are doing. Appreciate you having me on Chris on love. Yeah, appreciate it. Always, man Always.
Speaker 4:Hey, man Appreciate it, we've been excited to have you on, man. We're glad it finally happened.
Speaker 3:Yes to have you on, man.
Speaker 4:We're glad it finally happened, yes, sir, and we wish you nothing but the best man. Anybody out there that wants to get into boxing wants to get into being trained by a real stand-up gentleman that really cares about you being better. Like he said, you got to want it, though.
Speaker 3:Yep, you got to want it. Holler at Mike man.
Speaker 4:Go to Mutombi on boxing man and get in the gym and better yourself, man, because you ain't going to do it alone all the time. It's hard to motivate yourself, so let Mike help you do that.
Speaker 3:That's love.
Speaker 4:Go be a part of Motopia Boxing. We wish you nothing but the best, Big Mike.
Speaker 3:Hey man, I appreciate y'all. Big Mike, that ain't.
Speaker 4:Big Mike. Well, he's bigger than me, it's Big Mike.
Speaker 2:All right, bro, I appreciate you 100%, 100%, 100%. All right, man, We'll keep in touch man.
Speaker 3:Go ahead and spend the time you can 100% Appreciate it.
Speaker 4:All right. If he grow up looking like y'all man, it's going to be a problem.
Speaker 3:All right, he's going to start when he's three. Right, let's go, all right man have a great evening.
Speaker 4:All right, fellas, have a blessed night.
Speaker 2:All right, Chris Michael on there. Great to have him on.
Speaker 4:Yeah, good show man.
Speaker 2:Yeah, everybody, you know, tune in for next week we're going to have on Justin Garber from Winchester Virginia. He writes his own music. Now what he did? A national anthem for the Colorado.
Speaker 4:Rockies. He did it at the Colorado Rockies Major League Baseball game earlier this year in the summertime.
Speaker 2:Yep, so we're going to have Justin Garber on next week. I think he's released a CD, I believe, or records. We'll have him on and probably sing something for us. Y'all into country music, old friend Justin Garber we grew up with, went to Hanley High School. Was he in 1998? 1998,? Yeah, he's out there in Colorado right now. We're going to have him on next week, so everybody tune in. Like we mentioned previously too, we're working on having Carl Rush on here, hopefully in the next couple weeks. But everybody, hey, appreciate everybody. Subscribe to our YouTube channel, follow us on Facebook. We're on Brothers With Opinions. We're on Instagram X, so go out there, subscribe, it's free guys.
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Speaker 4:Yeah, look, if you're listening and your name's Kevin Curry, holla at us, man. We want to get you on the show. If your name's Stephanie Washington, stephanie Curry, whatever, you know what time it is, the drill team needs to come back. Let's make this episode happen. Everybody else, the 84 football team, big D, I ain't forgot about you. We're going to get y'all guys on soon too, man, and yeah, we're going to keep it moving. Like Tony said, justin Garber's in the building next week, man. So all you musicians and people that got a good ear for music, man, get excited, because Justin's a great talent and we're excited to have him join us.
Speaker 2:Yep, yep, all right everybody. Hey, enjoy the football game. We've got the Bills of Miami coming up, so we got to jump over here. I got to get my face.
Speaker 4:I know you got Miami winning because you love Tua, so let's go. Hey, I like.
Speaker 2:Tua, but I don't see Miami. They have to have a quick turnaround because they are not looking good so far. Bills are looking like a team to beat, destroying everybody.
Speaker 4:Shout out to Haley 3-0 with their backup quarterback man.
Speaker 2:Yes, oh, and everybody speaking sorry, speaking of uh football go out haley versus skyline tomorrow at skyline.
Speaker 4:I love haley. Gotta go for haley, but I hope zayden gets 300 yards rushing tomorrow yeah, you got.
Speaker 2:You got a lot of local stars out there zayden birds for skyline, uh, andre big jay playing. And on haley's side you got josiah johnson. Hanley's side, you got Josiah Johnson.
Speaker 1:What do they call him?
Speaker 2:Biggie, yeah, biggie. But Hanley got, josiah Johnson, you got.
Speaker 4:Oh JoJo.
Speaker 2:Killen, yeah, so that's going to be. Hey, that's going to be a great battle.
Speaker 4:They got Washington kid at 100 yards last week.
Speaker 2:Yeah, jameer, jameer's nice yeah, so you got.
Speaker 4:And Yoder, yoder's out there.
Speaker 2:That's who it is Will Yoder's out there. So hey, everybody check out Skyline and Hanley. Tomorrow Should be a good one. All right, chris Got to go Love it.
Speaker 4:Big hype machine, tony, y'all enjoy Hanley going 3-0 and see if they can beat Skyline, maybe get to 4-0, 5-0. And then I'm going to just tell y'all one thing, with two names Randy Moss, I'll see y'all soon.
Speaker 2:All right, all right, bro, love you and see you next Thursday.
Speaker 4:Yes, sir, love you too, man Y'all have a blessed night man.
Speaker 1:Let's go. Dolphins, big voice, no silence. Revolution televised Ain't no good in private Not. Knowledge to the ignorant Ain't never been. We'll be right back. We condition to die. Most people fail before they start because they don't ever try. Man, they told us we was worthless. We believed in the lie. We took it way too literal when Big said ready to die. You know, the KKK turned the cops in disguise. Man, a lot done, changed, but race still applies. Five-oh hands up. Don't even ask why. Trey Vaughn, mike Brown man, another mother's cry hey, bwo, let the con rope begin.
