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#NEC SYMPOSIUM 2023 - Open Mic with 👩⚕️ Geoanna Bautista
Geoanna Bautista is an assistant professor and neonatologist at UC Davis. Geoanna's conversation is a testament to the power of collaboration in tackling neonatal diseases. As she highlights, the need to work with peers, stakeholders, and merge the basic scientists and clinical researchers' work is vital. Geoanna's insights on the gut's role in various diseases and the potential of big data and artificial intelligence in this field are thought-provoking. Brace yourself for a deep dive into the world of neonatology as she touches on the revolutionary ideas being translated into practice and her anticipation for the future developments in the field.
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Hello everybody, welcome back to the neck symposium. Tell us a little bit about what you're from.
Speaker 2:I'm Joanna Bautista. I am a neonatologist assistant professor at UC Davis and essentially I have a basic translational physician-scientist at a fellowship about two years now. So really focused on gut development, gut physiology and kind of what is creating the susceptibility towards injury to the neck et cetera. But my focus really is, like the babies that end up getting short-cut. A lot of the intestinal rehab subs. There's a lot of overlap. Obviously my baby disease is gastroschisis is my absolute favorite, but I love those babies and they get neck.
Speaker 3:Absolutely. Tell us what you were most looking forward to hearing about this week.
Speaker 2:This has been fantastic. This is my first time at the Neck Society meeting and, God, it's like I literally put out a review on all the neck animal models and meeting everyone that I've just cited and read all their works.
Speaker 3:Good.
Speaker 2:God, I'm like this is so cool. I've been kind of fangirling a little bit, but yeah, exactly, and I think that's been the best part of it. But the patient stories have been phenomenal. I'm glad they brought tissues out today. Because, yesterday I was trying to find something to wipe eyes off. It's actually really, really invigorating.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's energizing and it re-centers. It re-centers you.
Speaker 2:My goal. I am doing this because I don't want to just say one baby, I want to say the majority. You know what I mean. All babies, not just like yeah.
Speaker 3:I think it's interesting your perspective, actually, because we say that neck is a disease of prematurity and that's not entirely true, no, not at all. And so there is this population, obviously of babies who are at additional risk of gastroschisis?
Speaker 2:The cardiac babies, exactly, and I think it's just and that's our understanding is changing about the gut, and I feel like I always talk about like I got into the gut because I was like I don't want to do the lung, because I feel like we have some legends and giants already in that field, and then the brain was next and then I was like but you know, and heart, but everyone overlooked the gut and now we're seeing how it actually causes so many issues from head to toe.
Speaker 1:So I think it's a yeah, I think this is the as the next generation of big data artificial intelligence is. I think we're going to help us think about this, like you said, in a more unified way, where it's not just like one axis, not like the gut lung axis, but it's like the whole baby axis.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think that's very exciting. Obviously, we're talking about the microbiome, but how it is impacting or can potentially balance all of the other neonatal pathologies.
Speaker 2:Exactly exactly. I just think they all relate and I think forums like this are particularly exciting because it really builds on the collaboration like a collaborative approach. And I think that's the message that the next society like constantly puts out there. It's like we have to do this together, Like there's no way everyone can, one person can do everything. You have to break it apart and work together and kind of really enhance everyone's strengths.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think the collaboration. I think maybe 10, 20 years ago we understood that we couldn't do this from like just a single center. Actually, maybe even more than I said, we thought like single center you can't. You need to collaborate. And I think now the next society is showing us that not only do you need to collaborate with your peers, but you need to collaborate with all the stakeholders Exactly, and you'll probably get, as you say, the right answer to the right question. And not yeah.
Speaker 2:It's also, like you know, the basic scientists in the clinical research. You need to be hand in hand, god.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to do a couple little things on clinical.
Speaker 2:I'm like it is such a doozy for me. I'm like my mice are so simple. Where's humans? I'm like God, you have so many factors Like I'm feeding the results. So I think that that partnership, also on that like really basic level, is actually really important and not recognized before. Before is like a really big. You're siloed off. Yeah, you only did your basic science, you only, and then like, or you tried to do both and they would be not great.
Speaker 1:So you'll be back next year.
Speaker 2:Yes, so I'll be back next year. Yes, absolutely. Thank you guys, thank you.
Speaker 3:You can give us a little recap about some of the take home points from this basic science kind of project, basic science kind of pathway yeah, so far, oh my God, it's been phenomenal Pathways.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think a lot of it is the exciting stuff that's going, I mean, literally just now. I'm still, it's still mind blowing this whole remote ischemic conditioning. I'm like how does that work? Cause again you're like on a little arm, cuff you know this is.
Speaker 1:This is insane right, this is insane.
Speaker 2:Wait, how did your nurses let you do that? First of all for four, five minutes.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, we're going to take something that's perfectly healthy the private of oxygen for a little bit, and this will train you and this trains your body Like what?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so that that's just tells you, though, right, that there is multiple axes, multiple things that you need to understand.
Speaker 1:When you go back to your unit. You have to convince you, like I promise you.
Speaker 2:This is a. Thing.
Speaker 1:I promise you, I heard it. I promise, I heard it from like the.
Speaker 2:BPD settings. Like I literally still stand by the bedside to make sure. Are we all in agreement?
Speaker 3:Is no one going to change my settings tonight?
Speaker 2:Can we please sign off the same thing to our counterparts? That's great. I think a lot of the novel ideas that are actually getting translated is really exciting, and this is a form where you have surgeons here too, so it's pretty phenomenal kind of seeing that the world's kind of absolutely. Yeah, so it's super exciting. I'm very early in my investigative years, but I'm very excited. There's a lot of things to look forward to.
Speaker 1:Awesome, Joanna. Thank you so much for dropping by.
Speaker 2:Thank you guys so much.
