I decided to hang out with Democratic Alliance leader and politician Mbali Ntuli. We challenged ourselves to not speak party politics, and what unfolded was a beautiful conversation about the myriad quandaries of parenting (she is a mom to a little daughter and also currently pregnant), illness and mental health (she speaks openly about some severe existential challenges), the upsides and downsides of public life, and so much more.
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