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Cavs Advance π³π | NBA Playoff Reactions, Bold Takes & Pressure Talk
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On this episode of Steppin W/ Unc & Strand Elite Sports, Unc Dove & Fiq react to the Cavaliers advancing after handling business against Detroit in the playoffs.
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π Cavs vs Pistons reactions
π Whoβs under the most pressure this postseason
π NBA playoff surprises so far
π Which teams look built for a Finals run
π Bold takes, debates & real sports talk
No scripted takes. No filters. Just real playoff conversation from a Philly perspective.
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What up, what up, what up, what up, what up, what up?
SPEAKER_03What up, C What's up, brody? What's going on? Like done no more than a week, but it wasn't that long. Yeah, yeah, for real. Oh, we just taking it, man. Taking it watching this game. Um half time.
SPEAKER_10Up 64 47, man.
SPEAKER_03We seen that coming. I seen I don't seen it coming, but like the truth do get into a big hole all the time, but they should have to fight their way back to the biggest thing. The third quarter, they got a big third quarter. It'll be a little funny acting though, bro.
SPEAKER_01They do, they can't get no, they don't got no shooters, man. That's the that's the only thing that really be holding them back. Like when they can't hit no shots, like they don't got no other playmaker, but K.
SPEAKER_03That's the only thing that really be holding them back. Like I don't even know what his numbers was looking like tonight. I think K got like eight or ten points, maybe ten right now. But they you know, they double them, they double him and all that crazy stuff right now. Which they've been doing the whole series, but you know, the other players just not getting off. Yeah. One more time I forgot to do it correctly. Step in with Type and strain Elite Sports. You know what I'm saying? For sure. For sure. You know what I mean?
SPEAKER_06You already know.
SPEAKER_03Right. Yeah, we got shirts coming soon. They should be done by next week. We got shirts, yeah. So absolutely, bro. But yeah, I'm just I'm just watching this, man. Um, this only game for the day. It's like, yo, bro, if they were so long waiting for this game, dog, for real, for real.
SPEAKER_10Come on, I said I know, dog.
SPEAKER_03It was real man, Detroit, Detroit. If they lose, man, they gotta just they gotta go all in, man. They gotta go out there and and and give up and give up some pieces and go get D booked. That's the fact they gotta go to go do that. They're gonna have to do that. They're gonna have to go out there and just give up some pieces to get D booked. Because like, if he got somebody in the backcourt that can really run with him, like, you know what I'm saying? Like they gonna have to do something. Yeah, he's from yeah, he's from there, yeah. Like Michigan, yeah. So it's like I just you know, I told my brother that like two years, I told my brother that last year in the final, and when the OKC was in the finals against Indiana, and now everybody's starting to say it now, like, you know, like on TV. But you know, everybody's a lot of best for his thing, like I think, so I get it. But everybody like they should make that move because it'll help it'd be helpful for both of them. For real. That was Booker would have put them over the top. Yeah, because he would have made it, he won't make life easy. Well, K gonna make life easy for Booker. Booking all Booker can do a score, like he gotta do all the extra stuff, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it helped him out more. But Detroit win that. Yeah, they if they I wanted them to win too. And if they really, really like um wanna get to that next level, like they was one in the east this year, so that was crazy enough. But if they really want to go to that next level, Book would be a good job for them. Yeah, you know, it's look at OKC, bro. They be making it work for bottom stars over there. Like, they got the old stars. Yeah, they like 11. Yeah, they like 11-12. So I think I think that uh with Detroit and Book, it's a perfect match because they can play off of each other. Like they really can't get double. You know, if they keep Jalen Duran, they'd be they'd be cool too. But he just gotta step his game up more, you know. You gotta keep Young's too. Um Thompson. You know what's crazy? They the number one team in the East, and they had no spacing. They spacing is horrible. Yeah, I'm watching them on fans. Yeah, that's how you know K really that good, which he got robbed for MVP, but we'll let that go though. Yeah, I think so. Let's talk, let's talk about it. I feel like they robbed K for MVP. I feel like that's why I don't like that hype stuff. When they hype players up, they want to keep giving players the same thing, same thing. Like Detroit ain't the Troy ain't got no spacing out there. They ain't got no other superstar but K.
SPEAKER_04He took them to 60 wins, and you don't win MVP. Yeah, him and Shay miss the same amount of games.
SPEAKER_03Wow. That's why I don't that's why I say everybody just be overhyping everybody, and I don't like that, but I've never been the player that like like that's why I ain't never like LeBron. That's why I don't like Shay.
SPEAKER_04I don't like none of them because like they be like, not saying they're not good, but it's like, yo, She really took the truth from 60 wins. Anytime he ain't get MVP, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_03I don't like that. I ain't feeling that. No, I'm not. I'll feel you. I don't be feeling a new MBA. Like, they just be doing a lot of like weird stuff, like, to my knowledge. I mean a lot of time with the MVP, like the trophies in general, bro, it'd be like delays. Like, I can go back to like the earlier 2010s, bro, with the defensive player the year drawn. Um, they would give somebody the joint a year after they deserved it. Like, gave the Marcus Saul that one year. I know I gotta advocate for Braun at one year, but that Marcusall joint was crazy. But then they robbed Tyson Chandler, one of them. And they gave Tyson Chandler the joint after the year they won the chip. I don't I didn't understand. Like it just didn't make sense. Like our short one, like it's crazy, bro. And then even with the MVPs, you know, it's uh it's always gonna be an argument. Some people say D Rose or Brian, somebody some people say Brian could have got that. I wasn't mad that D Rose um got that drone. I wasn't mad, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Because it's something new.
SPEAKER_03But then there's another drone when Hartin got it, but he should have had it a year before, 2018, I believe. Yeah, and they like did some funny stuff with him and Curry. I'm like, yo, they gave it to him. Yeah, oh no, that was 18. Braun could have got it, but they gave it to Harton because they robbed him the year before.
SPEAKER_01Before that, yeah. They give the Westbrook, remember Westbrook won it in 17.
SPEAKER_03Oh, when he yeah, when he got the drum. So yeah, MVPs and like I said, these awards is crazy. The sense of player of the year Wimby. I think Wimby was like undoubted out undoubtedly this year.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah. He is he ain't like really good bear when he gets torched half the time.
SPEAKER_03So yeah, uh he he really do his thing on the booth of like, yeah. He changed the whole everything about the team, bro. Like, but you know, you know they yeah. No, I'm just gonna say that's gonna be tough for OKC. I know the refs is with him, as we've been saying.
SPEAKER_04No, no, but they want that matchup though, so that's gonna be a fair matchup.
SPEAKER_03No, Spurs, that's going seven.
SPEAKER_04That's yeah, that's on that's gonna be an even matchup because they want them both them teams to play. So that's cool. That's not it's not gonna be no, it's not gonna be like Shay getting as many fouls.
SPEAKER_00It ain't gonna be like that.
SPEAKER_03It ain't gonna be like that. That's crazy because we would expect the Spurs and OKC. Like those are two, you know, small, you know what I'm saying, words, we would say. But um, they're gonna get it in. I'm gonna watch that joint tomorrow night. Yeah, you know, they've been, you know, they would, you know, uh, they've been going at it. Well, the Spurs was down for a minute. OKC was down for a minute, but like in the mid, like 20 from 1313, I'm gonna say from 2012 to 2016, they that's like a rival though, because they've been going at it for a long time to see who's gonna make it to the championship.
SPEAKER_10Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Because you know, you know, they OKC went to four Western Conference Finals and they played the Spurs all the time. I remember that. Remember that. Yeah, they played them, they played them, they played. They got to the chip that one year. Yeah, they did they played the Spurs in 12, and then they played the Spurs again in 14, 13, something like 13. They played them in 13. Okay. No, no, no, no. They was no, they lost. No, no, that year Durant got hurt. I think Durant got hurt beginning the 14 year. That's when they didn't hit uh Harden. Yeah, that's when they did have Hartin. And they had um Deon, okay. I want to say that's oh no, they they paid him like two straight times because remember they played they played Golden State one year. So I want to say it was 12, I remember that year. And then it was and uh KD MVP year, I think what that was 14, so that's twice, and then they played Stephan Curry and um and um uh 16 years. And they and yeah, OKC lost to uh Dallas uh 2011 in the Western Conference Finals. So they went to four Western Conference Finals. So I remember that vividly. Yeah, yeah. And I know the year when Curry and them beat them. That was the year when Curry and them went. They was they was uh 73 and 9. Yeah, 73 and 9, yeah, yeah. And they played, they played the uh they were 73 and nine. I mean forgetting. Yes, they did. That's when they played the Cavs, yeah. That's when Katie went there the next year. Yeah, they got a history. The Spurs and the LKT. Spurs and the best series. They played each other like twice. They played each other like twice in the West Coast Finals, yeah. I think it's gonna be the best series in the playoffs in general. Like from first round to now, I think it's the best to be able to do it. Yeah, man. It's gonna probably be a good one. They both want them, they both want to like, you know, they want them to uh you know, they want to root for them. So what are you liking the series? Um I don't like neither one of them teams. Yeah, but if I had to choose, I probably would choose uh I probably would choose Oklahoma City. I don't want to, but I would like edge. Yeah, just experience because they did it before. They did it before, yeah. But don't I like Castle though? That's the only person I like on his players is Castle. For some reason, he's the only person I like on his players is the same. Don't like Fox. No, no, no, no. I don't like Fox. I don't like Fox because he don't really, he don't really he don't really show up like that. He gotta do more for me though. I like Castle because Castle played on both ends, though. So that's why I be liking Castle. I don't know that one year when Fox and them played the the Warriors and the uh draw.
SPEAKER_10I was I didn't have the the uh the case.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that was a crazy series. Then after that the year after it was over with I didn't understand how they dropped down like that after that crazy year they had the rock and Mike Brown was on his things. Same thing we done with uh five. Same thing he does um got better talent though. This is the respect gotta love it, gotta respect it. And we shall see though. Tomorrow's that. And then uh whoever wins this, play the Knicks. Yeah, so next year. Let's let's go. If the Cavs win, you got the Knicks? I like I like the Cavs. Got the Cavs to go to the chip if they if they win tonight. Yeah, they win tonight. I got if they win a night, yeah. I got Cavs beating the Knicks. I don't really like that. I don't I mean the Knicks is cool too. They cool, but I don't know, bro, what's going on, but these last I don't know what's going on, to be honest. No, they all they offense on some other stuff right now. Yeah, no, that's how you know when your offense clicking right now, it'd be it'd be something different. But you know, they got big, then they got back guards, they got guards that can really play. So, you know, cat just can't dominate island and stuff like that. But it should that should be a fun series too, but you know. Detroit come back tonight and go to the Knicks. I got Detroit all go on the way. Yeah. I did it too before the series started. I just I just know, like, I knew this was gonna come one day where it's gonna be a game. Well, I know it happened a couple times in that Orlando series. I'm like, that's gonna be the game where it goes because they can't score. But it's like, you know, it's like it's coming back to haunts them now, though. I've been out there, spite out there tripping off. He out there like, I don't even know. He passing the rock and everything tonight. Yeah. He's playing James Harden role. No, he definitely is. Then he got his buckets. I always put him like the top three shooting guards. Oh, that's good defense. Him and uh him and um Edwards. Him and Everett, yeah. They I can't say I won't say book because like he haven't the last three three years, he ain't really been doing that. But I keep it real about my man.
SPEAKER_00He don't got the team, he had no success.
SPEAKER_03I keep it real about my man. I I know how like people be like, you know how people favorite players and they be like, they're gonna vouchro, but nah, he ain't do nothing for the last three years. So I can't really be like, I say he three, but whoever be first between D Mitch and anything, that's cool. But I know how it is. I mean, I would like to see Donovan go to the chip, you know what I'm saying, get a chance to perform on that stage. But the Knicks is so hot right now, I just don't know. And then we don't trust Hartin. Yeah, but that's what he got Mitchell for, though. So it's like he don't really got a ain't really nothing. But it's not it's I mean, he's had that bro, he had that with the Clippers, to be honest. Last year when it sold out, they had Kawaii and Kawhi was healthy.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, but I mean, but he Kawhi ain't with people than Kawhi is though.
SPEAKER_03So that's why I'm really turned to what, like a scorer? Yeah, like people do people be like, yo, man, Kawhi is things on the defense. He be he be fading, he be faded too, though. Literally too, though. So and he always hurts. So it's like, you know what I'm saying? I don't know. I hope I I mean if Hart was to get a ring finally, bro, I wouldn't even be mad. But it's just you can't rely on him at this time of the year. If him or Westbrook, if him or Westbrook was to get a ring, I would I would be overly be happy. Especially for especially for uh Westbrook. He's been through a lot. Westbrook been through a lot. I would love to see if he was on like a veteran, like I thought with Denver, it would be that time, but Dilka always fooled. Dilkish always folded, they always fold it though.
SPEAKER_10They stayed for 21 now.
SPEAKER_03Durant ain't been doing nothing in series. I don't get it. They ain't been doing nothing all playoffs, bro. They ain't been on all playoffs, man. I don't I don't get it. Like, you the biggest nigga on the court every game. All right, well, Allen is the biggest motherfucker. Way taller. Yeah, he's taller, but Durant, look at, I mean, he you heard Kenya Martin said, like, you out there like on some dicks and nut and stuff. Yeah, for real. Muscles. You know what I'm saying? No, he ain't he not he's not lying. Man, you got Ben Wallace right there watching you, bro. Like, go holler at him. They're like Stewart not getting the minutes that he usually get because they was playing Paul Reed because they needed them. You know what I'm saying? But it's tricky. I don't even think it's the coaching thing. It's like it's what they they don't what they can with what they have. Like you said, bro, they don't have another perimeter score. They don't got another perimeter score, yeah. It's a bias now resistant. Yeah, and Tobias now hooping today. It's like, you know, it's just yeah, like back to his Philly ways. Yeah, it's just I just knew, like, man, sometimes, man, you you you can't keep.
SPEAKER_01I used to be coaching at school, not together. I used to coaching at West. I used to coach at West. And we used to have J I used to coach on JV.
SPEAKER_03And we always had to dig ourselves out of hole every time. You kids can't keep doing that. It's the real job. Like, you keep digging yourself out of holes. Like, you know what I'm saying? It's just a lot. I think that's why people like that that heat team that they had with Brown, because they always was doing it, bro. It'd be like, yo, they always was doing it. All right. The next thing you know, they making the comeback. You just be like, yo, I'm tired of this.
SPEAKER_04That's how go that's how, yo, that's how like yo, when I KD was on the Warriors, they'll go down by 20. They'll go down about 20. I ain't worried.
SPEAKER_03Playing down to the content.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, they're gonna flip, they're gonna flip the squit.
SPEAKER_03I never seen three of the like three of the greatest shooters on a court on the same scene at the same time. Like, to be honest, KD is up there as far as like shooting. Yeah, yeah. You can't deny that. Play and play and stuff is like top five. I mean, step is one. Play is right there. Play like three, more. He's more of a set shooter, but I mean he had 52 points and no dribbles. Like, it was 60 points with no dribbles. I think it was like seven dribbles or something. I watched that game, they think it's Indiana. It's insane. I still like you know what I'm saying? Then you got TikTok. He's the Smash. Bro, the Splash Brothers will never be forgotten, bro.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I don't, you know, that's just you know, fem, you know, female just people.
SPEAKER_03We've never seen nothing like it, regardless if you like them or not. You've never seen nothing like that. That's the greatest team I've ever seen in my life. Bro, I would love to have seen, like, I know it's hypothetical. I would love to have seen them play one of them old teams. I would like them to, I would like to see them play the bulls against the bulls. The bulls, the heats, the Lakers, and Lakers. You know what I'm saying? I've assimilated on 2K before, you know, on some on some sports.
SPEAKER_04Especially, especially the Bulls, because I want to see like that matchup between like who can score more between Mike and KD. Oh, that'd be that'd be crazy.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, so that would be crazy. We know, we know who, like, because we kind of can, all right. I know Pippen's thick in KD. For sure.
SPEAKER_04But they're gonna put Ron Harpert on Curry. But the thing is, they'd be the thing is when they say that, I'll be like, well, is Ron Harper gonna want to run off screens all day? Because that's what Curry's gonna do.
SPEAKER_01I ain't never seen guard nobody like that. Yeah, they ain't because you know they ain't had nobody like that in the 90s where they're gonna run off a score.
SPEAKER_03I mean, size Reggie Miller, but you know, Steph can still get his shit off of the dribble by itself, though. My my Muhammad, he ain't played that long. Another um from um uh LSU, point guard, light skin ball.
SPEAKER_10What's his name? Chris Smith? No, I'm just saying, like, back in the day.
SPEAKER_00You're talking about um um uh I know Joe, I can't pronounce his name right. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I think his uh other name was Chris Schniffs. Yeah, yeah. He was like, yeah, he was the closest thing to stuff back then. But when we seen what Mike, when he did the mics, Mike had a problem. Mike even said he had a hard time guarding his little thing. Yeah, yeah, guarding little dudes. Yeah, but he would have got on a switch and Curry would have sauced them up. I think they would have given some work. It would have come down to what the with the what they do in the paint too, though, because they're doing it. I like but the warriors big men over them. Like, I don't will produce Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, or uh Luke Longley. First of all, ain't nobody ain't none of them guarding David West. People forget about David West on on the 17 Warriors. Dennis Robin, I don't know. They didn't know I'm saying, but Dennis Robin is gonna have to deal with deal with you know somebody else. It's gonna be a lot of switches. A lot of switches, like, but they the people David West really used to go out there. Yeah, no, Joe. What's the name used to go? David West used to go out there and get buckets, though. He was, especially in his Indiana days. I always got to go to the state, yeah. He used to be at that little mirror. Now, what you gonna do with Sean? What you gonna do with Sean Livingston though?
SPEAKER_00No, Ron Harper gotta go to the bench at sometimes Sean Livingston comes off the bench.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because when Steve Kerr given him, he's getting torched. Oh my god. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_07Donovan Mitchell grabbing the ball, not giving it up. Yeah, well, Donovan Mitchell grabbed the ball so much.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that'd be that'd be a crazy series, though. That'd be a crazy series. Thompson came over. Oh, that's good defense. It was that was a good defense. I ain't really done a job, Steve. Like, so like I wanna end up seeing a good game tonight, you know what I'm saying? Uh damn, I hate when this happened. When I like Philly. We ain't even did we even oh Philly got sweat on.
SPEAKER_01No, we gotta sweat.
SPEAKER_03We only watched that one game, man. That was it. All right, new from there, man. It's over with. They gotta cut it to they gotta at least cut it to ten or at least five if they want a chance. But Detroit make a run yet, so it's all about a game of runs. I just gotta claim down. That's the only thing. Yeah, no. You got the most pressure left in the playoffs, you think. I hate that.
SPEAKER_04I think nobody got no pressure though. People always say, yo, pressure to do what?
SPEAKER_00Like, you've been doing this your whole life. Like, it's not no pressure. You're gonna go out there in the NBA, you're gonna make shots or you gonna miss shots. Like, it's not it's not no pressure where Oh, we got pressure to do this, you got pressure to do this.
SPEAKER_03That's like some TV stuff.
SPEAKER_01Like, yo, who got the most pressure? That's just cause you want to get content and all that. Like, they've been playing basketball all life.
SPEAKER_03Like, what's the what's the pressure? Like, you know what I'm saying? I get it, it's it makes a good, great TV, but but who players will say the same thing though.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like because I'm a player's player, I'm not like yo, like I'm an NBA here. I'm not going to say somebody got pressure. They've been they already made it to the top level already.
SPEAKER_03Like, they don't even make sense to me.
SPEAKER_04Like, you know, I'm definitely right. That really don't make sense to me. Like, literally, like you already made it to the biggest stage. What what's pressure?
SPEAKER_00That's like some TV stuff, man. I I don't I don't get it.
SPEAKER_03It makes sense. Yeah, I don't like that, man. I don't go by that no more. I think that was kind of points back in the day when you said that. Yeah, and it's like it's like, ooh God, and these these referees is horrible too. I feel like they call every soft, like every call is soft, like what team disappointed you the most in the playoffs and field? What team disappointed me the most? Houston played off the playoffs. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You know, it's like y'all go out in the first round. Even though granted y'all did have injuries, but it's like, you know, damn, I was I was like, damn, Ben Fleet. Big factor like that, but these kinds of cars so kind of and what's the name overrated as a coach too? Ime? He overrated. He overrated a lot. Like we gotta separate his emotions sometimes from the game. We got the tripping ass. Yeah, he he he he really he really take a lot of personal emotion. I know he is because Bazoula came and took him to the chip too. And one and one at that, he over he overrated, you know what I'm saying. You know, when you come through that Spurs, you know, lineage, man, they are automatic look out for you, but it just don't even be that good. Yeah, I ain't seen, I don't see, I ain't saying he's bad, but it's just like bro, like he's not elite. Because you could do that with like the way his coaches all this, his coach is out fit for like a young team. Like he like, all right, we can get y'all together, we can do some, but like that's why they were so good last year. He was faster.
SPEAKER_01They're faster, yeah. You got a young team, you know what I'm saying? They're gonna listen, you know what I'm saying? But what's the name was disappointed too, though? Shangoon was disappointed too, though.
SPEAKER_03I don't know what that nigga, he was supposed to dominate the leakers, right? And they keep letting Thompson shoot. Like, and he my whole thing is with him, like, yo, like, bro, like, what are you doing on your off time? You know you can't shoot, you know you can't shoot. So why you even like, you know what I'm saying? You talking about this Thompson or the one in Houston? Yeah, both of them. You need one you can't shoot. I think the one in Houston is a little bit more versatile on the on the offset.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He's way better. Yeah, but the other one is from like, yeah, you know you can't shoot, man.
SPEAKER_03I'm just so mad at Detroit, man. This ain't got no spacing, man. Space is just terrible. You know what my biggest disappointment was. Oh, the Sixers? Yeah. Wow. I'm not mad that they lost to the Knicks, you know what I'm saying? A sweep though, bro. You couldn't get one. That's just a bad matchup. That's just a bad matchup for y'all though. But it wasn't always. That's what I don't I don't get it, bro. Like, I don't know what changed. But they on fire, so it's like, I don't know what's gonna happen in the next series, too. But damn, we couldn't get one. And they keep doing it in Philly, bro. I can't take it no more.
SPEAKER_10Keep doing it in Philly.
SPEAKER_03It keeps happening in the Philly. Yeah. Oh boy, man on the sixes, though. They was injured the whole year. I don't blame men on you. Houston was too, but it's just like, yo, like the Lakers was beatable, and y'all couldn't like you know. But no, the playoffs came, I'm like, all right, we went to Boston, we used up everything Boston Boston. But you know, Boston, you know, Boston wasn't damn gate shooting a lot of threes. He ain't making that even he needed to get the mid-range. I feel like what they beat Boston, like, all right, you know, you know, that's cool.
SPEAKER_01Boston wasn't there, Boston wasn't they have much name all year either though.
SPEAKER_03So but they got Stewart out there getting buckets. Yeah, man, it'd be crazy. Resort to Stuart, that's like Ben Wallace getting buckets. No disrespect, Ben. You know, you might have yeah, my homie, my homie be talking about uh Ben Wallace. He'd be like, uh, yeah, he's a four-time.
SPEAKER_00I think Ben Wallace four-time defense player of the year or three-time one of them. Yeah, like he's like he's the best defender. I'm like, nah, I ain't going for that, bro.
SPEAKER_07He's up here.
SPEAKER_03No, he definitely won't be one of the niggas. Yeah, Ben Wallace definitely was up there. No, like our time, yeah. I mean, we got him. We got Ronald Tess in his heyday. Ronald Tess was a motherfucker, but you know, he really got down in guard though. So we crazy. I'll never forget when the Rockets played the Lakers. Or was no, he played for the Kings one year. Oh, he played for the Kings. Yeah, he played him and Kobe, yo. Yo, he don't, yo, he don't care. That's one person that never cares, yo. That's one person never. He might have played him, he might have played. Matter of fact, he might have played Cole in the playoffs when he played for the Rockets, too, actually. I think he was bleaking out, he was bleaking out that drone. He was doing something crazy. How would you forget that elbow you hit James Hart up with?
SPEAKER_04Yeah, oh man, I was so mad, yo, man. He did that shit. I watched that game last time. I was so mad. Like, I'm like, yo, I can't believe he did that, bro. Like, he ain't he ain't even like that.
SPEAKER_03Was just like really like nothing else, like nothing happened, bro. I was supposed to. He came a long way. World peace.
SPEAKER_04No, he definitely did. You know what we need, you know what we need to like talk about? These damn officials. These officials is the worst. When I say they stink, might be the worst officials in my life, bro. They stink, bro. Like, I've never seen none of this in my life, yo.
SPEAKER_03Like, it was crazy. Like, every one of them is just bad.
SPEAKER_04Like, it's no good officials, just so bad out there, bro. Like, it's terrible. Like, they officially is terrible. Like, look, they're about to call the file again.
SPEAKER_06It's terrible, bro.
SPEAKER_04It's like they're just like I'm watching college. It's like everything they do is just like defile.
SPEAKER_03Like, it's crazy. Look, yo, it's six minutes left and Cleveland and the bonus.
SPEAKER_10They're out of door, man. We got gun blocks forever.
SPEAKER_03Detroit like they're not that better than Detroit. But I'm I don't know, man. I'm a I don't know. Detroit, Detroit just having one of them games, all right? It's just it's just how it's gonna be. At the wrong time. At the wrong time.
SPEAKER_00Look, they getting out hustled. Look, they might call a file.
SPEAKER_03Look. Oh, just like that.
SPEAKER_01But it's hard to play like it was hard to play like that when a referee just keep calling mess up the momentum.
SPEAKER_03It just mess up. It's like, it's like, what else can I do, bro? Like, you like and that wasn't even a file for referral, though. You're right. Crazy, man.
SPEAKER_04Hey, wait, that's something you win 60 games and then you go out like this, and it's like so Detroit gotta go out there and do that, man. They gotta handle business, man.
SPEAKER_03If you want to win, you gotta go out there and handle business, man. I expect this from the young cats.
SPEAKER_04Like, give up, like give up, it's like give up half of the roster. Do something, bro. Like, make it, make it do something, bro.
SPEAKER_06Like if you want to stay like this, bro. Bro, it's crazy because it's drawn.
SPEAKER_03It's like Donovan Mitchell and them not even killing him. He out there like stretch arm strong. And K going every time, bro, K got about four or five turnovers, bro. It's crazy. Right for the game, I sent something with your group matches that said that K was going for 35 tonight. He can't get 35, he can't he got on there turnovers. Wrong pains. Bro, and it's Jerry Island. That's the thing. Like when you go home, you're gonna be like, yo, like everybody's all right.
SPEAKER_06Is it done? Like when you end?
SPEAKER_03Okay. There's something I'm trying to figure out here, like when people get calls and stuff like that, and we don't want to be the same. Which ain't cool. That's the scary part right there. I don't know. I just messed up and doing all the days. My man kept getting claws. It's hard to like really stream and do content with one with one phone or one device.
SPEAKER_10Like I even trying to be funny, but of course not.
SPEAKER_06I know how it goes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Yeah, like you never really went off the screen, froze for a little bit. I'm only saying it because I remember uh I was doing a drawing with um Barr and um tired a couple days ago, and Barr phone like went off for a second, and then when I was looking at the video and it was done, he wasn't on like the second half of it. I mean it depends. Well, I never stopped anything, so it's still going, so I don't know. Hopefully on yours, I don't know. You can try to come come out and come back in. But hit the same light.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, waiting for your feet to come back too. So we can uh get more of this game, talk for more sports, you already know.
SPEAKER_03Yo, bro, now it's recording. Now I know to tell people sometimes and all right. So we got our first 30 minutes and then you know you can clip it up how you want to clip it up and see. Yeah, man, this is insane, man. Hopefully that that's hopefully that Spurs and OKC series go maybe should be a good open.
SPEAKER_06This is bad, man.
SPEAKER_03You about to go home like Jared Allen killed somebody? They gotta get it three license, man.
SPEAKER_00They gotta get into ten, they get into ten, they in good shape, man. They down there, just gotta get into ten.
SPEAKER_03They can though, they oh my gosh, yo.
SPEAKER_06What happened? Who did something?
SPEAKER_03Jerry Holland just hit a three, then Jerry Allen come down and score. Bro, he just hit a crazy dog. Like on some satural liberty. They let Jerry Allen kill her. Oh my god, Paul Reed out there looking savings.
SPEAKER_00They let Jerry Allen kill her, bro. That's a thing.
SPEAKER_03That that happened when they uh when they played Toronto game seven, Jerry Allen was killing in that game seven.
SPEAKER_06Well, you walking in, so you got winning it all though.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Not because I want them to, but I get you. It's like I don't think these two East teams can beat them. At all. I think like either way, I think the Spurs or OKC gonna win the chip either way. Right. These referees, man. These referees, I can't, they is terrible. They calling every ticky tack call, yo. Like Wimby winning the chip this year, bro, crazy for the lead. Like, I don't even know. I know it's probably not gonna happen, but like just imagine that defensive player of the year, any winning chip. It's like his his he becomes I don't know. For me, first thing I would rather him be the face of the lead than than Shay.
SPEAKER_00Nah, I'd rather I'd rather say I'd rather somebody else, man. I'd rather not.
SPEAKER_03I mean, I'm saying he I ain't saying he's the one I would choose altogether, but I mean we want I wanted to be Ant, but it's just Ant is just different and not the league not gonna be able to handle that.
SPEAKER_04Ant need to leave, man. He didn't like he needs to leave, man. I ain't think on that one yet, but he don't need to be in Minnesota though.
SPEAKER_03I was asking because like they ain't even the league, people in the league ain't start talking about it yet. So you didn't hit your sibling, you didn't hit your ceiling already. Like it's I mean, yeah, what else can you what else can you really do? You didn't hit your sibling. I mean, you know, it's the two with two Western conference finals, y'all didn't get over hump.
SPEAKER_01Y'all try to go get KD, but he denied it because he didn't want to play in Minnesota. He need to go somewhere else.
SPEAKER_03That would have been crazy.
SPEAKER_10I mean, I hitting three don't for them going. Yeah, right.
SPEAKER_03Every time, right. I think Ain't Ain't need to come over to the East somewhere and do something like that, though. Or would that be that good jump for him? I think a lot of players should like because a lot of players should like like do that though. Start thinking about going over to the east coast. Unless y'all gonna unless y'all gonna load up and and go over to the western, y'all can be OK Z. I mean, that's the only thing I can think of.
SPEAKER_10I think that is on the level. He's definitely on the same level as uh Jay.
SPEAKER_04No, he definitely is. He just he definitely is.
SPEAKER_03He just goddamn trust me on passing 90 things. Oh my god, get out of here. So they ain't calling no foul, dude. They call every tick tick file for Cleveland, but not calling nothing for you talking about Duncan Robinson later. Yeah, like yo, you can call it that's crazy, yo. It's bad, man. This referee is horrible, yeah. Oh, Ivan is A. Bro, did you see that commercial, bro, when it was like the Knicks and the and the Cavaliers and the uh Easter Capital Spanish? Yes, that's why we think this should be really be rigged though, yo. Like it had a commercial and then it cut it off quick though.
SPEAKER_06Crazy man.
SPEAKER_03Super wow. Yeah, man. I'm just I'm I'm I'm I'm mad for my man Cage, man. I guess. I know it's gonna happen if they got to the finals. I'm like, they get to the finals, it'll be cool, but I knew it was gonna happen. Like they have a game where it's like it's not they get hit, nothing's it's over with you can't you can't keep coming back from 24 and 25 and dubs and all that. That that that they get turned at that time. Yeah, no, but no, they was doing it in the playoffs, they were doing it in the playoffs too. But yeah, but I'm just saying it catch up. Yeah, catch up to you. No, the regular season happened. You you eventually, you know what I'm saying? But you know, you ain't got no room for that in the playoffs.
SPEAKER_10Yeah, you don't. They should have won game five when it was up. That was the one. That was one. So it's like, you know.
SPEAKER_03Hey man, it's you just hate when you work so that's something they don't like about basketball. You work so hard to 60 wins, man, then you just like it's just it's just hurtful, man.
SPEAKER_01And people, and some people don't understand, like, when you when you really do this for your whole life, man, like and you like fell, like they some people don't understand that, man.
SPEAKER_04People go on these TV shows and never never hooped and never did this, and oh, he fooled under pressure. That's not the point, man. It's a Mr. Lake league. When you like Cleveland making everything, Detroit missing. It's not about that, bro.
SPEAKER_03Like, it's like God. It's really just hard, man. You don't understand. You put your blood, sweat, and tears, and just like it's just over. Like, you gotta wait a whole nother year just to you know what I'm saying. They're gonna get on TV and try to trash Detroit and like don't even know, like, you know. I mean, how it is for for I mean Jared Jack.
SPEAKER_10But um, like, what's up with him?
SPEAKER_03Well, I'm I I'm one of those guys, I'm a realist fight, man. They just came out of nobody expected them to be number one this year. I'm not giving them an excuse, but like, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. For sure. Somebody seen that coming. So that was an accomplishment in itself. And they ain't go out in the first round or nothing like that. So yeah, it's just hard, man. Like playing the NBA is just like hard, but he said, bro, it's a long season, man. So you do all that just to get up out of there. That's the best, that's the only thing, man. Stop playing over. I don't know. Like, if he was in his height day, uh, he ain't the same player, I guess, no more. But he would have been a nice we turned the clock back in game five, man. Just uh you know what I'm saying. Like you see how Mitchell gets to go out there and just play free because like he got a point yard that can just you know what I'm saying. Also, I mean, he had the green light, you know. I don't know what he got going on over there.
SPEAKER_07But uh what a shit. It's just crazy.
SPEAKER_04See how you got his backcourt made. Like R ain't even really doing nothing. Like, you know, you gotta eat each facilitate, you feel what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_10Yeah, definitely getting chill for once.
SPEAKER_03You were saying, that's how I was supposed to be in Philly, but we overusing the morning in Philly.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, but then you ain't got nobody, you ain't got nobody like Mitchell though that could just really, you know what I'm saying?
SPEAKER_10Yeah, nice and bear. Yeah, beat all.
SPEAKER_03Like, what's it ain't definitely nice, but you know, actually definitely nice, but he ain't dying so he still ain't ready. He ain't ready yet, he ain't dying. I mean, uh that that that New York series shows you, right? Once he slowed down, though, he gotta slow down. Once he slowed down, yeah.
SPEAKER_10That's the clean.
SPEAKER_03The game comes to him, he's gonna be he gonna be he gonna be nice. I mean, most people probably gonna say that Jalen Brunson is better than him. I think Jalen Brunson's game is more controlled. He's on the foul tip too, so it's a little different. Yeah, people are gonna say Wilson ain't better than uh better than Brunson better than him too, but I don't think they I don't even think he nowhere near better than Cade. That's just my that's just my point. Brunson better than Kate, though. I don't think I don't think that at all. I don't think they I don't think at all because Wilson ain't don't play no defense.
SPEAKER_10Brunson?
SPEAKER_03Brunson don't play no defense. At all.
SPEAKER_06No, it's just that he would still wait to shoot better than Kate.
SPEAKER_03He can shoot the three, but K can score just as much as he can.
SPEAKER_01I mean he can and he do. And he do.
SPEAKER_04And he gets more assistant, and he get more assistant, and he play on the other side. So yeah, you know what I'm saying? But people gonna go on there. Well, that's just why Brunson is better than um Brunson and went through crazy L's in the playoffs so far.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, for sure. That's real. Remember, I'll ice cream dead to him. Don't forget that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, for sure. Like, I get it. It's just like, you know. You know, that's what people that's how they talk on, that's how the TV is be talking. They're gonna touch it, talk a bunch of BS tomorrow. Yeah. Instead of being a realist. I can't stand that, bro. Just be a realist, bro. Like, you know, all right, man. One thing I can't say about Cleveland, though, when they when them two bigs be gone, they really can't be beat, though. They they mobile big. They yeah, they yeah. Two mobile bigs was crazy, like it was big pain. They got 44 paint, they got 44 points in the paint, though. That's crazy work, nah. So you knew they just driving that kicking.
SPEAKER_10Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Okay, I wanted to win, bro.
SPEAKER_01For real, man. But you know he's gonna have this. I knew that stinker was gonna come though.
SPEAKER_06I knew it was gonna come, it was just a matter of time. One more quarter of this. Yeah. Oh god.
SPEAKER_04They really get it, man. They really get it, man. Mvp is crazy working.
SPEAKER_03I knew it was happening though, bro. It was no no banner for me. Like they don't even they they were Giannis only got it what once or twice.
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SPEAKER_03I don't know. Yann only got it once. Joker got what? Two, three times. Yeah, Joker gotta be in. They be pushing that international thing to the to this to the T though. How many MVPs does Giannis onto Cooper have?
SPEAKER_04I think he got one or two. I think he got one. Maybe two. I think it's one though.
SPEAKER_03I think he got two uh Devental Sarah the year. He got two different, but I know that for sure. Yeah. That draw, I mean, that's all big man, where they never. I mean, even Wilson ain't got the draw. Who that uh Marcus Smart.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he be running around just like Patrick Beverly be doing. So I ain't understand that one either, but I'm gonna let that one go now. I'm gonna let that one rock though. Yeah, he does got two MVPs.
SPEAKER_03He got two MVPs? 19, 2019, 2020. Yeah, back to back.
SPEAKER_10He got back to back and then Joker got three after him.
SPEAKER_06Oh y'all say back to back.
SPEAKER_10I'm gonna go down that list from 2016. 2016 is when we just talked about this earlier.
SPEAKER_032016 is when Steph got the unanimous draw. Yeah, it was carried 17 with Westbrook, bro. Yeah, yeah. R was 18. R was 18, Johnny was 19.
SPEAKER_1021, 22, and B was 23, Okis was 24, and Shade by Shea.
SPEAKER_03Look at don't got no MVPs. That's insane to me, yo. He was so close. I think if the Lakers was better, like they he can win the drawing over shape, because he's definitely right there with Shay as well.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, why he ain't won one in Dallas, though. Like he looked never won MVP.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the year when they went to the chip, he could have won that draw. Oh, he bro.
SPEAKER_04I don't understand.
SPEAKER_03When they played when they played uh when they played Baltimore.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, I don't get that though. He really don't got no MVPs though.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, that's it.
SPEAKER_04Do you think he's gonna ever win one? He's been in the league for like what six six yeah, he got some time at six. Well, he's been like six or seven years?
SPEAKER_06Yeah.
SPEAKER_04I'm trying to think. KD when K KD came in 07, he won it in 13. So what's that? Luca was back in the middle.
SPEAKER_06Lucas, man, Lucas 2018.
SPEAKER_04Luca 2018?
SPEAKER_10Yeah, I mean pray.
SPEAKER_06And um uh the uh eight in bum ass. That's crazy. He ain't got no that's crazy he ain't got no MVP.
SPEAKER_10He hasn't one way, but 2020 he finished fourth, 21 he finished sixth, 22, 5th, 23, 8th, 24, 3rd, 25. He was in the top conversation again.
SPEAKER_03He got hurt though, man. That was a bad drawing. Yo, so we need to talk about that. He really ain't got no MVP though.
SPEAKER_06That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03Yo, we really don't got no MVP. You know what, bro? I actually liked him and Kyrie together too, by the way. I didn't do some dumb stuff on that though. I didn't like the way they didn't get them time to like, first of all, they went to the chip together. Yeah, and then you got to go to the phone. You know what I'm saying? Then I just boom right after that. It's crazy, bro. Remember, they had Brunson, but that's the time Brunson. Yeah, that's crazy. That's like Luca got some crazy highlights. You know, so that seemed to be OKC, like well because he when they run though, because I like who can you you see like the backcourt they got?
SPEAKER_04Like, you can't really if you you know they play they you know what's crazy though? OKC think they slick, but I'd be peeping game on them. You know my 13 used to you know Miami 13? They should put that trap defense too. Two on the ball. You see how they be putting two on the ball? That's how my that's how Miami, that's how Miami used to play.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, put your be your best player, you put two on the ball on the roof. You won't make somebody else beat you. And what's they do that all the time too? That's how they do that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's like be catching on them, but you can't really do that with you can't really do that with some with a crazy backward, though. Because you put two on him and then he's gonna either score, or it's gonna be somebody else open in the corner, or it's gonna be a cut to the basket. Bro, Spurs got some hitters, bro.
SPEAKER_00No, Spurs do got some hitters.
SPEAKER_03They got Fox, they got Vassell, we got Brian Harper Jr. or Devin Harper. My fuck. Him too. Harper's he's uh he he way he he way behind his ears. Like he already a bet. Yeah, he way behind his ears already. Like he already got the game down back. They got another guard too. He'd be shooting it.
SPEAKER_10I can't think of his name. Okay, we'll call my um cooking last series a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, might be it might be whoever missed that game went and shot that one game. It's crazy because that's the thing that was saying a lot of stuff, but they came back into the thing. They came back in the a lot of things happening that series. Julius Randle was playing like uh like the real Julius Randle. You know, so he had the out of body experience against the Lakers last year. Believe that I see him playing person, believe that, yeah, the out of body experience uh for real. He probably was motivated because they got rid of him. Yeah, stuff like that, get people over there. But then you played on, he's like, come on, man. You ain't even had nobody special guarding him. Right, no, especially when the Lakers ain't had nobody guarding. That's a bad matchup for the Lakers too.
SPEAKER_04Uh my man, my guy, man, he's going out, man. It's alright though. You know, you build by build. They was a they was a team that ain't win nothing that they played in the playoffs last year to being in the first round.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely, you know, they'd be like that. It's like a building block. Right. You said so okay, so the Spurs on KC play tomorrow?
SPEAKER_10Yeah, or we don't.
SPEAKER_03Nah, we want it. I'm off tomorrow. So I ain't gonna I don't gotta work my other, I'm gonna work my um, I'm gonna work my uh I gotta work at the record tomorrow. That's it.
SPEAKER_10I ain't gotta work at the hospital, so I think we'll start uh we'll start game time.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we could pre-game too, bro. Alright, that's cool. That'll be a good junk. You know, people don't be doing that though. Right. You know, pre-game before the game talk about what's gonna happen this and what's gonna happen that. We we definitely gonna do that. I might I'm gonna try to do it live instead.
SPEAKER_10We could do that. That's a good job. Oh, looking off the dog. Jenkins? He got a little corny old man game. Who that you talk about? It's Jenkins.
SPEAKER_06Oh, we're Jenkins. Oh man. I at least if they would have like had a close game and they lost, I wouldn't have been mad, but going out like this, man, it's crazy. Oh man, the bus ride. I didn't think about my man.
SPEAKER_10Oh, my man Kyrie.
SPEAKER_03Uh, I used to love Kenny Smith when he used to do the jaw back in the days. Uh I can't remember the name of the memory of the name of his segment, but it's uh Kyrie used to be the bus driver. Oh, the bus driver. That was the that was the best segment, bro. The bus driver. Kyrie's the bid on that joint. He's always clipping somebody. The bus driver was a crazy name, but it made sense. That's crazy work right there. Yeah, people getting up and leaving, man. That's a bad job, man. Look at that. It was something missing, man. I don't know. Kyrie was Kyrie was my guy, man. I I I miss I miss when him and KD played together with me. That was supposed to be skill skill fest. Kyrie and I just couldn't, like, you know what I'm saying? Okay. That call yo, COVID really messed a lot of things up. A lot of things up, yo.
SPEAKER_06Literally, COVID messed a lot of things up. Literally. Crazy work. I was there on. He was watching the dog crazy. You a goddamn, I'm a kid. John didn't go off again, did it? No, no, no, no. That's because nobody ain't calling me. So we're going to uh leave.
SPEAKER_03Um boozer. The one though, the one that's getting directed, he already NBA ready though, because he's kind of strong and all that. Big one? The big one already, yeah. Uh the other Bruiser, I don't know. Oh, you know what we need to do tomorrow before the game come on? We need to break down the NFL, the NFL schedule. All right, we can do that. We need to do that, because you know, I you know, we can break down the Eagles schedule, like, you know. Because you know you're an Eagles, you know, you you know you're an Eagles fan, so we can break down the schedule, see the wins, and which I don't even know. I don't even feel I'm gonna put some thought on it. I'm gonna probably take off tomorrow, so I'll put some thought into it during the day because I seen it and I was like, okay. I know AJ Brown's supposed to be leaving for a first round pick or something like that. Yeah. Shout out to y'all though. We thank y'all for that, though. We thank y'all for that. We're going to y'all?
SPEAKER_01We thank Patriots. We know we're going to the Patriots. We thank y'all for that, man.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah. We could have just traded, we could have just did a trade for him and digs for all that. Nah, I think it was something where they didn't want to do something to the league officially start June 1st. So wherever all that goes, though. And they got digs right up out of there. Yeah, but I think they're gonna end up bringing Diggs back, probably. Or he won't probably go somewhere else. He'd probably go to Kansas City. That'd be a good jump for him. That's a good jump. That's probably good. That's why I wanted Wilson to go.
SPEAKER_01But they he ended up going to San Fran. I want the though. The year before that, a couple years before that, I wanted Mike Evans to go to Kansas City, but he ended up staying.
SPEAKER_03But now he ended up going to San Fran though. Don't um don't give Patrick Mahomes that ball. See, that's all he really be missing for for real. That that guy, guy, yeah. Yeah, where you can really like listening, throw it up to somebody. It was weird last year. But you know, we definitely could we should do your whole division though for real for real. All right, we can do that. That's fine. That'd be that'd be cool. We could do like divisions and stuff like that. That'll be cool. We could do that. We can break them up.
SPEAKER_06I can't really eat this, man.
SPEAKER_03They screams getting Brian if they lost. That's the crazy part.
SPEAKER_04What you gonna do? You think brought you think brought sleeping? You think brown need to retire? This referee right here. Whoever he is right here, this referee right here, man. He's gonna have more games.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to run for no more games, bro.
SPEAKER_10All you want to write with the 24.
SPEAKER_03Numbers, uh the white with a white one.
SPEAKER_10Yeah.
SPEAKER_03He horrible, man. Just calling every ticky tech file, yeah.
SPEAKER_04You know, Cleveland really a soft team, so if it's going away like that, it's it's it's over with.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, that's NFL, but the Cowboys and Eagles on Thanksgiving. That'll be a good job. I wouldn't mind going down there for that. Y'all really got real like beef. Forever. That's how you know the Sixers and the Eagles are so different, bro. Because like the Cowboys could never do that in Philly. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuff that the Knicks have done to us in the last couple years is unthinkable. I keep saying this, bro. The Eagles would never, I'm not saying this right the way they act, the Eagles fans act. But that right there could never happen in Philly. It would be like everybody getting locked up.
SPEAKER_05Oh, yeah, no.
SPEAKER_03There's no way. And we we we travel everywhere, you know what I'm saying? No, Eagles playing something different, though. But Max Truth keep cutting every time.
SPEAKER_01They must have felt they must have been watching film because I ain't seen them play like this. They found something that was I could make clean for that, though. That driving kick. I'm gonna go back and watch and see like what it is though. They overplaying everything, like, and they just took the back.
SPEAKER_03So they've seen something out of the thing. I don't know how many stills they got. A lot of stills.
SPEAKER_01I'm talking about the point, paint points.
SPEAKER_03Like, oh yeah, that's something they got 52 paint points. Like they seen something in the last film, like, oh yeah, we can get away with this. And the rental is a good one. Yeah, that's why it's always good to watch film, yo.
SPEAKER_01People people don't understand that, yo. That's why what's the name was so smart. That's why you couldn't really get that over Ronda. So smart. Like, yeah. Like he's so smart.
SPEAKER_03He watched a lot of film. Like, and you know, and KG. KG watch a lot of film too. That's why they oh, that's why they lose the Mark Davis called every soft call. That that that referee, boy, the boy called every soft call. Yeah, man, I don't know what for reasons, man.
SPEAKER_06I'm gonna keep getting on them because he was terrible. I'm gonna keep getting on them. They was terrible.
SPEAKER_03But yeah, though, tomorrow definitely should be a good genre, though, because we can break it, we could break it down, we could break everything down and you know before the uh it's a even before the game come on.
SPEAKER_00Even like we don't even gotta go live for referral.
SPEAKER_01We can do how we're doing that for referral, because you know they're gonna kick us off when we try to do live, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07I'm gonna do that. I wouldn't make sure.
SPEAKER_03It has been dawning for me. So yeah, probably put this out in the morning. Yeah, you know, another thing.
SPEAKER_01We can do that for football too. Like, you know, get it down.
SPEAKER_03Oh, football season, we're gonna get it rocking. Yeah, that's true. I had to wake up early on Sundays, but yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, Sundays, yeah, Sundays I don't know.
SPEAKER_03No, put something out. Every Sunday picture something, yeah. Yeah, and then like do something Saturday night, and then Sunday, you know, you watch why watch an Eagles game live or something like that, you know. Like, you know, try to get on something. Because you know, football gonna be different. It's more like a game of the week, you know. Yeah, game of the week joint, yeah. You know, just put it out there like that. It's always ideas.
SPEAKER_10Only difference is football is so lost, so we're gonna make it work.
SPEAKER_03That's all day session. That's all day joint, like out there. I can't believe him now. I can't believe it. Killing me. Nah, he definitely is, bro.
SPEAKER_06I'm definitely from the biddy. He w he went out, he went out soft though.
SPEAKER_04See all the other johns you were done too, though.
SPEAKER_01They was looking, they were nice though. All the other the other podcasts and gone.
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SPEAKER_03Nothing wrong with that. Yeah. Like this job looked blurry while we were doing it sometime, but then when it's done loading, it'd be like Pair's Day. I'm like, yeah. Yeah, no, but for real, it's too. I'm like, yeah, because I'm I'm doing it on my my 16 Pro Max, but I prefer to do everything on my 17 Pro Max, but I never can get that link on my 17 Pro Max. And the crazy part is I got the app on my phone. I got the ribs app on my phone on my app on my phone. I got my uncle be doing it, I'll be cracking up. I understand. It's better than the other drawing though, because the other journal is too many problems. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, this journal here is cool. This journal be rich always be coming up on TikTok and everything and be telling me it'd be, you know, everywhere. Tell you how good it is.
SPEAKER_10So any commercial.
SPEAKER_06Oh, of course, the game started at eight times. Yeah. That's a bad man.
SPEAKER_10Luca never got an MVP. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_03I think Lindy's gonna get one. He's gonna get one before Luca. That's crazy. Luka don't got no MVP. I don't know if Luca's gonna ever get one at this point.
SPEAKER_04I don't think he'll ever get one at this point either. Because it's been he's been he's been there since 2018, it's 2026.
SPEAKER_03So all the guys that got him outside of him, you know, guess he got it for different reasons.
SPEAKER_04And you know what's crazy? He really better than all of them. That's the crazy part. Yeah, I agree with you. Like Luca. Yo, he really, he really, he really better than Shay, he really better than Jokic. He never got an MVP, though. Like he young, like he younger than both of he younger than both of them. Like Luka about to be what, 26, 27? Yeah, never won an MVP. That's crazy, yo. That's shocking to me, yo.
SPEAKER_03You think he maxed out?
SPEAKER_04No!
SPEAKER_10Exactly, yeah.
SPEAKER_04That is mind-blowing that he don't got an MVP, yeah. And his numbers is crazy. He's a walking triple double.
SPEAKER_10Yeah. At the same time, the league is expanding so much, it's crazy.
SPEAKER_04But you gave Jokic three MVPs and they do the same exact thing. Uh, what's the name? Just a little taller, it's just taller than him. They do the same exact thing. They can both rebound, score, and pass.
SPEAKER_10When he first got his drawing, like, all right, but then the next year it's like, all right, you know, it's like recency bias, I guess.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, man. It'd be a lot.
SPEAKER_04They just keep giving it to him, but yo, but but but but but Luca should have got an MVP. There's no way Luca that good. He he won the top three players in the NBA and he ain't got no MVP.
SPEAKER_10Why is that creating the uh why is he an MVP here? I'm trying to figure that out too.
SPEAKER_04I'm gonna figure that out too. Like, if you give me a legit reason, I'm trying to figure it out. Like, why not get that to somebody else that really, really deserved it though? You could have gave it to Luca, you could have gave it to K. You could have given it lead to one of them too. Like they when they want to push somebody, they're gonna push, they're gonna push them to the max, yeah. And then about listen, I'm gonna tell you this right now. If OKC don't win this year, then they're gonna come back down to reality.
SPEAKER_01And then they're gonna try to push somebody else. That's how this goes all the time. It'd be somebody dominant for a year, like Jokic, like the same thing with Jokic. We need to talk about that too, but we'll have enough time to talk about that. But just a little bit, he ain't won that since 2020.
SPEAKER_04Well, when he won the championship, 23. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I think it was gonna have a repeat though.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_04And y'all beat the HC team. So it ain't like y'all played anybody that was good. And then yeah, they beat and then yeah, they beat everybody four one except for uh Phoenix.
SPEAKER_03Phoenix is the only team that got two games on him. They beat everybody else four or one. Why was Miami in the chips? Because they beat Boston. They was killing Boston, they killed Milwaukee too. Jimmy Butler took one on the run. I remember now. Boston. They was cooking Boston. I just couldn't understand.
SPEAKER_01That's how it beat. That's what the same thing Sixers did. I didn't understand how the Sixers would pull that one off.
SPEAKER_03But the Sixers were playing defense. That's what helped them. But then when they played the Knicks, it was none. That's what I'm saying.
SPEAKER_01I feel like Boston, the only team that can really match up with Boston and the Squares the only team that can really match up with Oklahoma State. And that's the only team that really can, though. And now they but you know what's clearly though?
SPEAKER_00If Boston do this, I'm done with Boston. If Boston break up Jason Tatum and Jalen Brown, bro, I'm done with them. I don't, I'm done with them, bro.
SPEAKER_04That means y'all listen to the media too much.
SPEAKER_06If y'all break them up. Listen.
SPEAKER_10Man, this give me some false information on here. On who? What was it about? I put the last 10 NBA championships.
SPEAKER_03They put Denver twice. Nah, yeah, they lying.
SPEAKER_1025 was OKC. Oh shit. They about the Rumble. 25 was OKC. 24 was Boston. Boston. 23. Warriors. Warriors really got another one. That was crazy. 22. That was a crazy job. Yeah. Boston 21. The Lakers 2020. Toronto 19. Warriors 18. 10 17. 6 Cavs got 16.
SPEAKER_03Yep. I didn't. I only chip out of this I I didn't watch. I don't think I really watched the uh the Raptors draw that much.
SPEAKER_10You wanna be honest?
SPEAKER_03You wanna be honest? Last one I really really watched was like really into was the rep was the Raptor ones too. That's the last time KD played in the final. Was the Rector Zone? I don't really, I don't really watch it.
SPEAKER_00I don't really, it's not my team.
SPEAKER_03I ain't gonna sit here in front, bro. The Boston Zone versus um Well the Boston no no no I'm lying. That Boston Warriors draw, I watched that one. I'm lying.
SPEAKER_00I'm lying.
SPEAKER_03I watched that. I didn't watch the Boston versus Dallas like I wanted to.
SPEAKER_01No, I really no I didn't watch that. I didn't watch that. But that Boston versus Warriors though, I watched that one though.
SPEAKER_03Last year, which was just out of control. I don't know how I ended up watching last year. It was just so that might have been the worst finals ever, and they went to seven games. That's what I'll be saying. Like, how they roll seven games? I uh you know Indiana, Indiana is like a frantic team, like they just they're gonna keep they're gonna keep running, running, running, running, running, running. They frantic, like real running. Yeah, they frantic, yeah. Hope young boy will come back, right?
SPEAKER_04He should, but we we definitely got just the Luca with no MVP is really crazy to me.
SPEAKER_06Okay, see the truth.
SPEAKER_03On that tip. Well, for but like a drafting and all that.
SPEAKER_04They've been doing it for years since they've been drafted good since 20 2010.
SPEAKER_10I think they biggest mistake.
SPEAKER_00I mean 20 seven, I mean 2007. They've been they got KD in seven, they got hard, they got they got Russ in eight, they got hard in nine, they got Bachet, I think Bachet and nine too, and then they they've been drafted well ever since then.
SPEAKER_10K just sat down.
SPEAKER_03How do you feel about the Ant Elrich Dawn when he went and depped everybody up with eight minutes left?
SPEAKER_09That's respect.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, bro. I don't get it, bro. The game was over, he wasn't getting back in. Yeah, so what? But this this you I'm gonna come back to it again.
SPEAKER_04It's the TV shit. They gotta make it for content, you know. If anything, be authentic. Like you don't have to be like everybody else. This is not 1993 where everybody don't like each other, and you know, I ain't shaking their hands. Everybody, everybody now played AU together. So like I know him. Like, what's up? That's my man. Like, that's respect. He went out there and debt to everybody. Now, if he didn't go over and shake hands, that would have been it a problem.
SPEAKER_06So it was like he can't do nothing right at all. They can't do nothing right now.
SPEAKER_04Now he can't shake their hand, debt their hand, but whatever.
SPEAKER_10Which is crazy, man. Now if he didn't, then he would have been worse ever.
SPEAKER_03Worse ever he'd have been Isaiah Thomas.
SPEAKER_04I said Isaiah Thomas' still paying for that, and that was then forty years ago.
SPEAKER_06Thirty years ago. Hey Cavs.
SPEAKER_01I really thought about the series uh with the Knicks version, the Cavs really that's gonna be an offensive, that's not even gonna be a defensive joint, that's gonna be an offensive joint the whole time.
SPEAKER_03I'm definitely gonna be flying around. They're gonna be flying around. And the Knicks got home court, that's the crazy part.
SPEAKER_04Like if the Knicks make it to the finals, bro, like they gonna have they about to yours. If the Knicks make it, bro, they ain't gonna, they ain't about no. They'd be like, this is good for this is good for them being.
SPEAKER_03That's what I'm saying, but I can't handle them next going to the trip. When a lot I can't handle them to before us, it's like the Dallas Cowboys, they would have won the Super Bowl before the Eagles, man. I'd have been hurt. We old like 30 pieces.
SPEAKER_09We old.
SPEAKER_03Bro, I'm sorry. I I understand some teams, you know what I'm saying? I get it, but like just the Cowboys, like I just, bro, it's been so long. Like, I don't even like how like I was arguing with Barr. He he a uh he a uh Redskins fan, but he didn't see their chips, so I don't understand, like never understood that dynamic. Like you wasn't there, not like physically, but like you can't claim that if you wasn't watching football at the time.
SPEAKER_04Yo, yeah, yo. You know what's crazy though? Because like they used to say that about me. Like my homie, my homie used to be like, yo, Patriots first three championships. You weren't a fan, you can't say nothing about that. You can't say nothing about that. I should be so mad, but I get it though. But yo, you can't say nothing about it. Like, yo, like you wasn't there, you wasn't a part of it, you weren't there. You know how many fights I was about to get in about the New England Patriots, they don't even dig, like, yo. He's like, yo, like, you weren't even there for it. But he definitely wasn't there for the year. That was like 90. What they won, what, 90? Wait, what ninety? I think Washington won a 90, and then I forgot it was another time. Definitely wasn't there, though. But they could two, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, the Dallas. No, the commanders, they got two, right? Yeah, I think they got two. The Bulls. I uh I hate the Redskins too, not as much as the Cowboys. Cowboys was on the lane of their own. But if anything, if any team that you should hate the Bulls, you should have hate the Giants, because the Giants won like before the Giants, you know what I'm saying? Like Giants fans, they can pop it.
SPEAKER_04Because they won in this, and this, you know what I'm saying. But y'all be popping it too, though. Like y'all be popping it too, though. And I'll be laughing at y'all because it's like, yo, think about it. Y'all wasn't really until y'all won 17. And then it took y'all, y'all won in the in the span of 10 years, y'all won two championships. Y'all be talking like y'all, y'all be talking like y'all won about six or seven of them joints.
SPEAKER_01Y'all be talking like y'all got about seven or eight of them joints.
SPEAKER_06I'd be like, yo, like what's going on in here? I mean, so my thing is supposed to be single shoe, but they're going to wait for the same issue.
SPEAKER_03My thing with the Eagles versus the Cowboys was like, alright, so I started watching football around the time when the Rams was nice. I think the 99.2000. Yeah. So and in between that time, bro, the Eagles was always better than Cowboys 75% of the time. Like we was going, we was going to NFC championships, and Cowboys wasn't going up.
SPEAKER_00You're not lying.
SPEAKER_03Then the years when we was kind of corny a little bit, like when we was like we're building the game between time. Cowboys had they had opportunities, bro, and they could never like it. It couldn't get out the first round. Like, I could see like if they was going far, but they wasn't even getting out the first round. Tony Romo, and then that like back to back. Hold on. 14, they got cheated.
SPEAKER_01Oh, the uh that's all you ain't you can't tell me no otherwise. Other than that, you're right about that. Like everything else.
SPEAKER_03I'm not I'm not a fan of them, but to me, that's all we're gonna catch. I like that.
SPEAKER_04That was the best team in this in this decade. That was the in this, like that was the oh, they had dug.
SPEAKER_03They had um the running back. What's the running back name? Oh my god, um, what's the running back name? For Dallas, they had it was Doug. Barber Tony Romo. No, not Barber, no, the running back. What's that?
SPEAKER_01She ended up playing Tennessee after that, after he got that big contract, after they let him go. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Um, I'm not just looking at it right now. I it's on the tip of my tongue. I just can't remember his name.
SPEAKER_04Because remember, he was nice. Wait, didn't y'all get him too, though?
SPEAKER_03Marco Murray. Yeah. He sucked with us, but yeah.
SPEAKER_04Murray, yeah. You had Dunn, you had the tight end. A team was loaded. They old line was loaded, yo. They, dude, they was loaded.
SPEAKER_06Yeah. Yeah, it was a place that they switched. They lost to uh Aaron Rodgers.
SPEAKER_04They also man, yep, in a divisional. They went 12-4 that season.
SPEAKER_0312 and 4. The Marco Murray led the league in Russia. That's Bronson. That's Bryant was a monster that year. Yep. Tony Romo put up big numbers, bro. Actually, like I like Romo. What'd you say? I like Bromo.
SPEAKER_10You like to lose Romo? I like Romo, yeah.
SPEAKER_04I don't care what nobody's saying, bro. They would have given him another chance. He wouldn't be no deck press guy.
SPEAKER_03I like Romo. And he can hoop too. Believe it or not.
SPEAKER_04You know what's crazy though? I like him better as a Nasser, though.
SPEAKER_03He's crazy.
SPEAKER_04Bro, Brady, my guy, but I prefer listen to Romo all day long.
SPEAKER_03This was about to happen for the big though. I like to be you him and what's the name two? Groot? I can listen to them two talk football all day. Romo and Gruan. I can listen to them talk football all day. Yeah. All day long. All day long. I like Troy Eggman sometimes. I'm used to Troy Eggman. He's very unbiased for him to be a cowboy, like for a two.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, he don't play like that.
SPEAKER_06If he's driving the boys up.
SPEAKER_00He don't play like that, bro.
SPEAKER_06Nah, for sure. He definitely don't play like that.
SPEAKER_03You know, he definitely unbiased. Damn. Chris Collinsworth was the worst ever. I don't care.
SPEAKER_04Everybody see that though. Yo, everybody see that.
SPEAKER_03Bro, he just it'd be like he go out his way to say stupid stuff. I don't know. Especially when it comes to patching my arm. Oh my God. Bro, when they come to Pat my arms, bro, we can't tell him nothing.
SPEAKER_01Detroit, man. They gotta really go out there and make a big splash, man. They gotta just go ahead and do it, man.
SPEAKER_04And they do it, yo, you know what's crazy? Like, that's crazy because they go to the East Captain Final.
SPEAKER_03You know, they ain't been there since LeBron. Like, that's a big accomplishment though. Because you know, LeBron fans quick to say, well, Cleveland ain't do nothing since he left. There we are. I do want him to retire. I'm gonna on his note. Let last next year be his like little, you know, farewell tour. And Kobe had the best farewell tour to me. Him and Mike had the best fairwell tour to me. Talking about the the Wizard's Mike or the Wizard's Mike. Yeah, because the other one he had one yeah. You know what's crazy though? What's the mic really was averaging a dub? People don't even understand that. Willie was averaging a dub. Yeah, the dub. That's it. First finals appearance in 2018.
SPEAKER_06Game six, Detroit.
SPEAKER_032001-02 season, he averaged 22.9, 5.7 rebounds, 5.2 assists, multiple 44 games. He had a 51-point game at age 38.
SPEAKER_10Back to the basket. That's what Kobe played like, though.
SPEAKER_03That was crazy. The slow down, like absolutely. Yeah.
SPEAKER_04But DeRozan played like that too, though. You're watching the interview when he was saying like Rosen played like that too.
SPEAKER_03Like that midi, it changed your whole life. It changed your whole life, man. Keep you in the league for the year. You don't like Kawhi Mini game?
SPEAKER_00No, I do. No, no, no. He top. He top. He tough. Like in our era, in our and like in our he top. I want him. I want to say Katie.
SPEAKER_03I want to say Book. I want to say Leonard. I want to say Kawhi. I wanna say DeRosen. Like Farr with the mid ring. And Shay, too. I I just don't like him, but he definitely up there too, though. He definitely up there though. He making his way.
SPEAKER_01He just don't shoot a lot of them. He don't shoot a lot of them. I put no car definitely in there.
SPEAKER_03I should already miss that one. Okay, well, we up there, Kyrie. I used to put niggas in a post, man. I used to love it. Yeah, clean the post on Christmas.
SPEAKER_04Did you ever didn't he remember when he told KD, yeah, well, I'm not your height. But I'm like, if I was your height, like he's I'll post up, like I'm your height.
SPEAKER_03Like, literally, like he did, though. His post game is ridiculous, though. To be to be 6'2, 6'3, his post game ridiculous, yeah. Right. No, his post game is phenomenal. Spin, yeah, upfake fadeaway. Fade away is nasty, bro. You get that off off over a 6'7 footer. He played like Kobe too. He just small. That's all. He's just small. Real baby Kobe. I told you him and LeBron. Hem and LeBron was the baby version of Kobe and Shaq. They just ain't do it long enough. Yeah, Typic. I want to play my own team. So I want to play my own team. I really think their games just were so good together. Yeah, no, they matched well together. That was crazy.
SPEAKER_04When they was clicking, but you know you know who he played good with though? Like art. When he played with heart that back court. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_03This was crazy, man. That toe, man. He almost got him there. They would have probably played.
SPEAKER_04They just got injured, man. They all got injured, man.
SPEAKER_03And y'all got one. AD could have had a third joint and could have shut it up. People wanna talk though. They gonna always talk. Tell the story. They're gonna always talk. That's what they do. Tuesday, Knicks in Cleveland.
SPEAKER_10I hope it's Ernie and Shaq. I can't stand that line, man. I'm gonna say I forgot you don't like bell.
SPEAKER_06I don't think he's but yeah, no, we definitely come back and you know tomorrow, man.
SPEAKER_10That's gonna be a good job. Yeah, we're gonna do it tomorrow for sure, man.
SPEAKER_03Thanks for rocking with me, bro. That's over with now. So time 7:30? Uh that's fine. It might be 7. I'll let you know beforehand. 7? Yeah, because we want to do the NFL and all that.
SPEAKER_10So you just double check on the score one more time. Maybe.
SPEAKER_03Blake and I'm about to do their thing. I'm a Blake fan. I like Blake on the um on the LC.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, no, they draw gonna be cool. They draw gonna be cool.
SPEAKER_10I can't believe they gotta cook like this, though.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, me either, man.
SPEAKER_10125.94 is the is the final.
SPEAKER_03He gotta wait.
SPEAKER_04He definitely gotta play with it. You wanna know why? Wanna know why? Because Donovan Mitchell said, that's why you gotta have a backboard court mate.
SPEAKER_03Alright, we'll have something to talk about tomorrow. We give our predictions for tomorrow and everything. Nah, for sure. Make sure I clip it up and I'll put something out in the morning.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, clip, yeah, clip it up. This is at me and I don't.
SPEAKER_10I got you. Alright, bro.
SPEAKER_06Stran League Sports. We out. Alright, see.
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