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<v SPEAKER_00>This morning we're going to be in 1 Corinthians chapter 14 and we're going to be reading verses 26 through 40.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So as you're turning there, just a little heads up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you aren't familiar with this passage, or you haven't gone through this passage, or you've never been comfortable with this passage, I just want to encourage you, stick around till the end, because there's a few things in here that culturally we look at and we go like, wow, how can Paul say that in scripture?

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<v SPEAKER_00>But the thing is it doesn't depend on our culture because our culture was different 50 years ago and 50 years before that, and it's going to be different 50 years from now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>This is all about what God's word is telling us, and it doesn't have so much to do with our culture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I think if you stick around to the end, you see the context of this passage, you see what Paul's point is, and we look at how God has given authority, He's given different roles within his kingdom.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, I think you'll leave here satisfied with the answer.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Anyway, like I said, we're in 1 Corinthians chapter 14, and we're going to start in verse 26.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So if you're able, would you please stand for the reading of God's word?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What then, brothers and sisters, whenever you come together, each one has a hymn, a teaching, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything is to be done for building up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If anyone speaks in a tongue, there are to be only two, or at the most three, each in turn.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And let someone interpret.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But if there is no interpreter, that person is to keep silent in the church and to s and speak to himself and God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should evaluate.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But if something has been revealed to another person sitting there, the first prophet should be silent.

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<v SPEAKER_00>For you can all prophesy one by one, so that every one may learn, and every one may be encouraged.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the prophets' spirits are subject to the prophets, since God is not a God of disorder, but of peace, as in all the churches of the saints, the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves as the law also says.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home, since it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or did the word of God originate from you, or did it come to you only?

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<v SPEAKER_00>If any one thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should recognize that what I write to you is the Lord's command.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If anyone ignores this, he will be ignored.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So then, my brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But everything is to be done decently and in order.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Let's pray.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, we thank you so much for your word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, we thank you that because we go through whole books at a time in order, Lord, that we have to cover hard subjects and hard topics like this that need to be taught and need to be understood.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I pray that you would help us to come with a spirit of understanding here this morning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That our hearts and our minds and our ears would be open to the things that you have for us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, that your word would come alive in our hands as we're reading this and that you would bring us all to a great place of understanding.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, help me to teach this well and clearly, and I pray that you would fill me with your spirit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, to overflowing to teach this passage here this morning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But Lord, I just pray for all of us that you would fill each one of us with your spirit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That each one, as we're going to talk about, each one of our gifts would be active and would be in use and in circulation within this body that you've placed us in here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We pray these things in Jesus' name.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Amen.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You may be seated.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So before we jump in and start looking at each one of these verses individually, there's a few things that I want to point out before we jump right into verse 26.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Paul, as we've talked a lot about, is addressing this church in Corinth.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's addressing, I want you to notice from the get-go there in verse 26, he's addressing brothers and, what does it say?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Sisters.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He uses the phrase both in verse 26 and then at the end of our passage in verse 39 as well, which is going to help us clarify a lot once we actually get to verse 34.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So just keep that in mind that he's addressing both the brothers and the sisters.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, the second thing, uh, and this is something that I hope we all get to walk away with uh today out of these doors, is that we remain in control of ourselves when the spirit is moving through us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We're not in a trance.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We don't lose control, we don't lose awareness when the spirit is moving.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We have the ability to even wait, you know, when he is moving, when he's prompting us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or we have the ability to even keep silent what the spirit is telling us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We can keep that to ourselves if need be.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Paul's gonna say that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the last thing that I want us to remember is that verse 26, I really see verse 26 as being the climax of chapters 11 through 14.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I know these chapters seem to be highly repetitive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you've been here for the last month and a half or so, you've noticed that these this section is highly repetitive that Paul's going through.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But Paul had a lot to sort out in this church, in this Corinthian church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He needed to give them instruction, he needed to give them direction in all of these areas, so we're gonna be faithful to continue through and do the same.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But if you had to sum up chapters 11 through 14, I think we could best sum up this whole section with verse 26.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So look at verse 26 with me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What then, brothers and sisters, whenever you come together, each one has a hymn, a teaching, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything, that word's key, everything is to be done for building up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That last line there, everything is to be done for building up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you highlight, if you underline, go ahead and do that in your Bible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because it covers what we covered in chapter 11 of how we're supposed to pray, how we're supposed to take communion.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In chapter 12, on how we function as a body, how it works together, and God's given us different roles within the body of Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Chapter 13, doing everything out of love for one another.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then in chapter 14, which we did the first half last week, we're finishing it this week, of how we should use our gifts in a public worship setting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All of that can be wrapped up in verse 26, kind of as the climax of the chapter, because it's all outward focus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've talked a lot about this, but spiritual gifts are outward focused.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I think it can be summed up in everything is to be done for building up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, Warren Wearsby has a quote that I love.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, a worship service should lift up the Lord and build up the saints, not puff up the participants.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'll read that again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A worship service should lift up the Lord and build up the saints, not puff up the participants.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I mention that quote because something that's easy to miss here is the attitude of the Corinthian church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Though their motive might be right, or might not be right, I should say, in how they're practicing these gifts, these people were coming together as a church with an attitude of what can I contribute today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They weren't coming to be spectators and to just receive, they're coming with an attitude of what they can contribute, even if, as we've seen, their motives were wrong.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Paul doesn't correct them for wanting to contribute, he just gives them direction on how to do these things better, on how to do these things more correctly.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I heard a quote a long time ago and I looked for it this week.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I couldn't find the original person that said it, but the quote is: I would rather tame a fanatic than resurrect a corpse.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Think about that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, it seems like Paul's dealing with some spiritual gift fanatics in this Corinthian church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's going to try and tame things down a bit, so to speak.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I don't think that we deal with that here, with spiritual gift fanatics.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As I look out, I've never looked at any one of you and thought, wow, that person is a spiritual gift fanatic.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But as a church, I think we're somewhere in the middle of all other churches, so to speak, where we do believe that the gifts of the Spirit are active for today.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But we don't place an emphasis during our service on the miraculous gifts.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, our emphasis, as it says in verse 26, is on hymns, and that just means songs that we're singing, and it's on the gift of teaching.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Those are the two things that we place our focus on on Sunday mornings.

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<v SPEAKER_00>With a hope that your gifts are being used before service, maybe even during the greeting time since they're so long, as Ben was mentioning, and after service as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, you may remember last year I encouraged this whole body that was here that if you consider this to be your home church, would you please consider showing up 15 minutes early before the service starts?

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<v SPEAKER_00>One of those reasons of why I mentioned that is because one of our core values is that everyone is a greeter.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's what if you're a part of this church, it's not just the job of the person standing by the back door, it's the job of everybody to be a greeter to each other and to the newcomers and to welcome everybody in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But that's not the only reason I ask you all to show up 15 minutes early.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Once service starts with a crowd this size, it's hard for everyone to use their spiritual gifts.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, this is what we consider our formal time of discipleship.

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<v SPEAKER_00>A few leading many.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But before service and after service is a great time for those spiritual gifts to be used.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, if you have a gift of prophecy or a word of knowledge or a gift of mercy or healing or wisdom or whatever it might be, that is a great time to exercise those gifts as the Spirit leads.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I want to ask you again to please be intentional with what time you arrive and be intentional with what you do with that time before and after service.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Asking God before you even come through those doors, how can you use my gifts this morning to bless the people that are around me?

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<v SPEAKER_00>To come with intentionality, to not come as a spectator, but to come to contribute to the body of Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, that's also one of the reasons we started doing home groups when we first started this church instead of midweek services.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, because if you have the gift of hospitality, it can be really hard to exercise that gift on a Sunday morning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But maybe you can host a home group, or maybe you can bring a dessert to that home group, or maybe you can make a newcomer feel especially welcome at that home group.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, it can also be a great place to share a gift of wisdom, or if you have the gift of teaching to share that gift as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I've been so blessed sitting through home groups when you see the gift of teaching coming out in people that aren't even leading the study, you know, and they just have this great insight and this great knowledge that they're sharing with everybody.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's a great place to use that gift.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, as we jump into verse 27, it seems like in the Corinthian church, just kind of from the picture that Paul has painted so far, that anyone at any time feels the freedom to blurt something out during the service.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like if I'm up here teaching and one of you just starts speaking in tongues right in the middle of it, and then another person just stands up and starts prophesying, be like, Well, what's going on?

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<v SPEAKER_00>I know I lose my train of thought, you know, it would kind of disrupt the flow, you know, of this gift of teaching that that's happening at this time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But in that church, that's what's going on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If people are just popping up and it's disruptive, and multiple people are talking, and there's tongues, and there's prophecy and the healing and all that kind of stuff, and it's just it's chaos.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everybody's speaking at once, and nobody's built up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's kind of the picture that Paul's painted so far.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we're gonna see Paul address in these next verses, verses 27 through 35, three different groups in these verses.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's gonna tell them to remain under control, and not only that, but he's gonna tell each of these three groups when they should be silent.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Okay, so that's that's what we're jumping into.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So look at verse 27 with me.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If anyone speaks in a tongue, there are to be only two, or at the most three, each in turn, and let somebody interpret.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Paul already addresses this in last week's passage, which Ben did in chapter 14, verse 19, where he said, you know, he'd rather speak five words of instruction than 10,000 words in a tongue.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I kind of get the impression from Paul, and this is just my own thought, that he wouldn't be disappointed if he sat through a worship service and the gift of tongues weren't exercised.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But he does outright say that he does not forbid them, and neither should the Corinthian church forbid them, but you kind of get that impression from what Paul's saying.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But also notice in verse 27 that he says, each in turn.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If somebody is speaking in tongues, each in turn.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Meaning, let the first one finish, allow an interpretation, and then the next one goes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then if there is a third one, then max let the third person go, and then we're done with tongues for the meeting, is basically what he's saying.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I think what the question now becomes is, well, what if there is nobody there to interpret?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or what if three people have already gone and I feel like I have this gift of tongues?

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<v SPEAKER_00>He addresses that in verse 28.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, but if there is no interpreter, that person is to keep silent in the church and speak to himself and God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You see, you may have the gift of tongues and have a tongue to share that day, but verse 28 is telling us that you don't have to share it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If no one's there to interpret, or if three people have already gone, it's okay to speak to yourself and God through a tongue in your own mind, in the quietness of your own heart, you can do that with the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because as we'll talk a bit more about after verse 33, exercising spiritual gifts is not an emergency.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm gonna say that again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Exercising spiritual gifts is not an emergency.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Look at verse 29, I think.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Two or three prophets should speak and the others should evaluate.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But if something has been revealed to another person sitting there, the first prophet should be silent.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Basically, the first prophet shouldn't just go on and on and on and on and on and keep going the whole time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But they're to be respectful that the Holy Spirit has given other people something to say as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So they shouldn't prof they should prophesy, and then they should be silent.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So this is where he's saying, under control, and this is when you can be silent.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's for the sake of order, it's for the sake of everyone being built up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then what does it say that the rest of us should be doing there in verse 29?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everybody else should be evaluating.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Tells us to evaluate.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, Ben mentioned this last week.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything that is said on God's behalf should be evaluated and held up to scripture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because far too often, you know, our flesh wants to get involved and tweak things to fit our own agenda.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we have to be evaluating while people are speaking or while they're telling us something directly because we got to make sure what we're hearing is of God and is scriptural.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, and this happens, I think, to us a lot.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The Holy Spirit reveals something to us, gives us something to say, but then we want to add our two cents in with what God wants to say as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, because we feel like God maybe left something out that these people really need to hear, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I um and this happens as well as false prophets, and we'll talk about that uh in a second, but I'm reminded of the story of Moses in Numbers 20.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's a story where Moses is leading the Israelites through the wilderness, they desperately need water.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The Israelites start complaining against Moses.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Moses goes to the Lord, God tells him to take his staff, but to speak to the rock, and the water will bring and the rock will bring forth water.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Instead, Moses speaks to the Israelites what he thinks that they need to hear.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't speak to the rock, but he strikes it in anger twice with his staff.

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<v SPEAKER_00>God's still faithful, he gives the Israelites plenty of water, but Moses is in big trouble because he disobeyed the Lord's instruction.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He spoke what he wanted to to the Israelites instead of following the Lord's instruction because his flesh got in the way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He was fed up with Israel and he wanted to let them know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he's in big trouble.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He doesn't get to go into the promised land after that with the Israelites.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I bring that up because in our spiritual gifts, we need to be careful not to add to what the Holy Spirit is giving us and telling us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's why the rest of us should evaluate everything that is said on behalf of the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You should evaluate, please hear me in this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You should evaluate everything I say.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Every single thing that I say.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The only thing that you should outright believe for me is when I'm reading scripture and you're following along.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's the only time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything else needs to be evaluated.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And you need to evaluate everything that's spoken through the lens of Scripture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, just because somebody says, God told me to tell you, or God wants you to know, doesn't mean you shouldn't evaluate what they're about to say.

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<v SPEAKER_00>1 John 4 1 tells us, dear friends, do not believe every spirit, but test the spirits to see if they are from God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because many false prophets have gone out into the world.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, we can't just believe somebody because they have a platform, because they have a pulpit, or a TV, or radio, a program, or a YouTube channel, or a podcast, or because they wrote a book.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Evaluate everything through the lens of Scripture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, that's why we so highly encourage each and every one of you to be in God's word, to be in Scripture on a daily basis.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We encourage you to read your Bibles cover to cover.

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<v SPEAKER_00>No matter how long it takes you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, if you started the Through the Bible in a year with us last June, we had, you know, we're announcing it, we had the handouts and all that kind of stuff, and you got a quarter of the way through and you gave up, keep going.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I really want to encourage you, don't get discouraged, keep going.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Do the Bible through four years, if that's what it takes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But read your Bibles cover to cover.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Be in Scripture daily because you can't evaluate if something's scriptural or not if you don't know what's in the Bible.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it's so important that each and every one of us is in the Bible and understand it, and you're not just coming on Sundays, and this is the only scripture that you get every week.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But we need to evaluate everything.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Paul goes on in verse 31.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, For you can all prophesy one by one, so that everyone may learn and everyone may be encouraged.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the prophets' spirits are subject to the prophets, since God is not a God of disorder, but of peace.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And there it is, spiritual gifts are not emergencies.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, the leading of the spirit is not an out-of-body experience, you know, where we lose control, you know, and like we have to act as soon as we feel that nudging of the Holy Spirit in our lives.

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<v SPEAKER_00>These verses confirm that you're still in control of what you do, and you can wait.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I've heard it said that the Holy Spirit never interrupts himself.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think that is very true.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, look at verse 32 again.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says the prophets' spirits.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's a lowercase s on spirits there, meaning that it's talking about our spirit, our the prophet's spirit, not the Holy Spirit, but it says the prophets' spirits are subject to the prophets.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Though we're in we're inspired by the Holy Spirit, we still have control of what our spirit does with it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what our spirit does not do with it as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Which means that we have the ability to quench the spirit, where he nudges us, says, hey, do this, and we just say, No way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's too weird.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What if I'm wrong?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What if this is my flesh?

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<v SPEAKER_00>What if they think I'm weird?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, all those thoughts start to come into our head, and we have the ability to quench that and say, no, I know, Lord, this is what you want me to do, but I'm not going to do it right now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because our spirit is still subject to us, to what we want to do with the guiding of the Holy Spirit.

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<v SPEAKER_00>All that to say, when the Spirit moves within us, we do not lose control of our faculties.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, otherwise chaos would ensue.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As verse 33 says, God is not a God of disorder, he's a God of peace.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I don't want us to miss what it says in verse 31 either.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says, so that everyone may learn, and everyone may be encouraged.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, we are not slaves to spiritual gifts.

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<v SPEAKER_00>They're for the purpose of serving others.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if we talk so much about, they're for the purpose of building others up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, before we read the end of verse 33, this is a pretty controversial verse, by the way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I want to talk about a few things because, like I said, this is one of the most controversial verses in the New Testament.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And like everything, we want to make sure that we are seeing this verse in context.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, first, I want to remind us of the beginning of this section that we've been going through, 1 Corinthians 11, 3 through 5.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, Ben covered this very well a few weeks ago.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if you weren't here, I would suggest that you listen to it specifically regarding authority and how God views authority.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And how in our culture, you know, we see authority as a hierarchy, and we see being under authority as demeaning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But Ben talked a lot about how God doesn't see it that way.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, he created various things with different roles for different purposes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And he created men and women to be fully equal, yet to hold different roles in his kingdom.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I worked as a house painter through college, and I got my contractor's license after opened up my own house painting business and did that for a couple years before I got into ministry.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And the the first thing that they taught me, and the first thing that I would teach new painters when they would come in, is how to cut and roll.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Those are kind of the basics of painting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Cutting just meaning all the brushwork and then rolling, you know, being the roller.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So if we were to walk into a room like this, say we're gonna paint this wall, there's usually a crew of three.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's kind of the optimal way to do it, where two people are cutting with the brushes, you know, one on the top, one on the bottom, and then somebody would come with a roller, and that would keep everybody busy, nobody got too far ahead of each other, and you would complete the wall together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Different roles, but they were working together for the same person for the same purpose.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But I want to ask you a question.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Which is more important, the people that are cutting in or the people that are rolling?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Yes, yes, somebody said yes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, exactly the people that are cutting in, they're moving slower, they're not putting as much paint on the wall, but they're having to be a lot more careful with what they're doing, they're moving slower.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The person with the rollers put a lot more paint on the wall, they're moving faster, they don't have to be quite as careful.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But the thing is, if we only cut in this wall around with a different color than is up there and we left it, how do you think the Lutheran church would feel?

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<v SPEAKER_00>You probably get a phone call, you know, the next day.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or if we just rolled the wall and we didn't cut in around it, you know, how do you think the Lutheran Church would feel?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Either way, it's not going to be complete, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>But it's different roles.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Different, but but the cutter isn't more important than the roller, and the roller isn't more important than the cutter.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, different roles equal importance.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We just need to remember that when we're talking about these things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just as God the Father and Jesus are equally God, but as Paul said in chapter 11, God is the head of Jesus.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I'll read that to you.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, but I want you to know that Christ is the head of every man, and the man is the head of woman, and God is the head of Christ.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Again, if you miss Ben's sermon on this and this stuff still makes you uncomfortable, please take a listen to that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if you're still uncomfortable, then go talk to Ben, because he's the one that no, I'm just kidding.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The second thing that I want to remind us of before we jump into the end of verse 33 is the context of verse 33, because this is all about context here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What have we been talking about?

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<v SPEAKER_00>We've been talking about evaluating, right?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Specifically evaluating prophecy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So we have to keep that in mind as we read this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Look at the end of verse 33.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says, as in all the churches of the saints, the women should be silent in the churches, for they are not permitted to speak, but are to submit themselves as the law also says.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the context, I'm gonna remind you again, of women being silent in church here is regarding evaluation of prophecy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As we just reviewed from chapter 11, Paul already addressed how women should pray and how they should prophesy in a public context.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Two weeks ago we reviewed that verse from Joel that was cross-referenced in Acts 2, where it said, I will even pour out my spirit on my servants in those days, in these days we're talking about with the Corinthian church, both men and women, and they will prophesy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, the first verse that we read this morning, I pointed it out to you already, verse 26.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It says, What then, brothers and sisters?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Whenever you come together, each one has a hymn, a teaching, a revelation, a tongue, or an interpretation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's addressing brothers and sisters there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The end of today's passage in verse 39 says, So then, my what does it say?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Brothers and sisters, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So is Paul saying women must be silent in church all the time?

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<v SPEAKER_00>No.

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<v SPEAKER_00>The only way that we can come to that conclusion is if we zoom in on verse 34 and we take it completely out of context.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So the question is, what does it mean in context?

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<v SPEAKER_00>When evaluating prophecy and speaking up about it, God has set it up as something for the men to do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's part of their role that He has given the men to do in the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Notice though, he doesn't say women shouldn't evaluate everything that is said.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's saying it's up to the men to bring the correction should they need to bring correction in that time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, I think it's because correcting somebody in a church setting has so much to do with authority.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If a man prophesies and a woman stands up and says, he's wrong, you know, that's exercising authority over that man.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So Paul just says, leave it up to the men.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's the role that God has placed them in.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's not more important than a woman's role.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It doesn't make them superior in any way over the women.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's just one person is cutting in the wall and the other person is rolling the wall.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Equal but different.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He goes on in verse 35 regarding women.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, if they want to learn something, let them ask their own husbands at home, since it is disgraceful for a woman to speak in the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Remember, we've been saying all along as we're going through 1 Corinthians that we're reading somebody else's mail.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's like hearing one side of a phone conversation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We didn't see what Paul was given, whether that was a verbal report or whatever.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We just get to hear Paul's response to all of these questions and the report that he received considering this church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And it seems as if Paul's addressing something very specific here.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Like maybe the women are not heeding the headship that God has placed over them during these meetings.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, as we've established, Paul talks about when women pray, when women prophesy, when women speak in tongues.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he can't be saying that they can't speak at all.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And I think Paul's words to Timothy in 1 Timothy 2, 11 and 12, are very helpful to this conversation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I want to read you those verses real quick, and then we'll bring it all together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, A woman is to learn quietly with full submission.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I do not allow a woman to teach or to have authority over a man.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Instead, she is to remain quiet.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So both this passage in 1 Timothy and the passage that we're in this morning in verse 35, in our context this morning, they are both in the context of learning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So during the teaching time, he's basically saying, don't disrupt the meeting.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If you have questions or something to say while being taught, you should go to the one God's placed in authority over you after the service and ask that question.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now remember, this whole section is about keeping order within their church meetings because they've been experiencing chaos so far.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And this is just one more thing that Paul's giving them to help keep order in those times.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, some will speculate that the church in Corinth may have been set up kind of like a traditional synagogue where women are on one side and men are on the other side, and maybe some of these women that don't know church etiquette, synagogue etiquette or whatever, are interrupting the teacher with questions, like, hey, wait, hold on, what's that mean?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Can you bring clarification?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or maybe, you know, there's some Gentile women that have never been in a church setting or synagogue setting before, and they didn't grow up that way, and so they're yelling across the room to their husbands, like, hey, what does that mean?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or this guy's full of it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Let's get out of here, you know.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Fortunately, you guys can sit next to each other and do that now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But that may be what's going on.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We don't know uh exactly what's going on in this church, but some speculate that maybe that's what he's addressing, you know, in this time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What we do know is Paul needs to address something having to do with women interrupting during the time when everybody should be learning.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So it's during the teaching time or during the time of prophecy.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So he, through the inspiration of the Holy Spirit, put some restrictions for the sake of order and authority in this church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And these are the only restrictions that we see in the New Testament on women, are these two regarding teaching and authority because they're kind of the same thing.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And Paul basically says in verse 36, you know, after everything I'm telling you here, if you still take issue with this, you need to take it up with the Lord and not shoot the messenger.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Look at verse 36.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He says, Or did the word of God originate from you?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Or did it come to you only?

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<v SPEAKER_00>If anyone thinks he is a prophet or spiritual, he should recognize that what I write to you is the Lord's command.

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<v SPEAKER_00>If anyone ignores this, he will be ignored.

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<v SPEAKER_00>He's basically just saying, if you're gifted in any of these ways, or you think you are spiritual, you need to listen to God's word and not just do things the way that you want to do things.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, the the Corinthian church has already doubted, we've seen, we've doubted Paul's apostleship.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I think he throws this in here just to say if you don't like what I'm saying, you just need to take it up with the Lord.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, don't shoot the messenger, just talk to God about it.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Look at verse 39.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So then, my brothers and sisters, there it is again, be eager to prophesy, and do not forbid speaking in tongues, but everything is to be done decently and in order.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Do these things, wait your turn, do it under the guidance of the Holy Spirit, according to the Word of God, decently and in order.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, this is really a great gauge of discerning whether a church is operating by the Spirit of God and by the Word of God or not.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, if it's chaos, if everyone's participating all at once and no one knows what's going on, then it's not operating by the Word of God.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, and you'll hear, and I've heard this argument before, you'll hear people say, well, in our church everybody speaks in tongues all at once, but it's okay because you know it's our prayer language, it's for our personal edification that we're all doing that at once, so we don't need an interpretation, we don't need to take terms.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Well, Paul makes it abundantly clear in these last handful of chapters that it's great to do these things in the quietness of your own mind or when you're alone.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But when the church gathers together, it's not about self-edification.

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<v SPEAKER_00>When the church gathers together, it's all about building one another up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So I can't give that argument a whole lot of validity based on what Paul has been telling us here in Scripture.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And what did verse 26 say anyway?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Everything being done for the building up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>That's why we're here right now.

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<v SPEAKER_00>As a church, each one of us is for the building up, to love God and to love others.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Now, as I said at the beginning, you know, we as a church we like to focus on the hymns, you know, the songs, and on the teaching from God's word in our services.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But as an elder board, we've been talking about, you know, what if somebody does have a gift of the Spirit that the Holy Spirit is impressing upon them during a service that is meant to build up the whole body.

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<v SPEAKER_00>What do we do with that?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because we've never given you instructions on what to do that.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So for now, this is where we are, we're still discussing it as an elder board, but for now, in this season as a church, if you sense the Holy Spirit impressing on you something to share that's meant for the whole group, you know, since we have the ability to wait and it's not an emergency like we've been talking about, just go find an elder in the back that's not doing something up here, you know, during worship or or or during the time of teaching.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because 90% of the time there is an elder that's in the back of the church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And just go back to them and tell them, hey, the Holy Spirit gave me this to share.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And then that elder will evaluate with you know if he agrees, if it's for the whole body or not at the time.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if it is, he'll just come up during the next natural transition in the service and give you the space to be able to share that with the congregation.

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<v SPEAKER_00>You know, we don't ever want to quench what the Holy Spirit might want to do here in this place.

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<v SPEAKER_00>But like I said, with a group this size, you know, if people just start standing up at will, it could become a little bit chaotic.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if somebody comes in that we don't know and starts to do something disruptive, then that could be chaos as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So for now, that's what we're gonna do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>And if it's from the Holy Spirit, I want you to know we won't see it as an interruption in the service.

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<v SPEAKER_00>We won't see it as disruptive.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Because we want, if the Holy Spirit wants to do something for this body, we want to be able to allow that space for him to do so.

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<v SPEAKER_00>So, like I said, for now, in this season, that's how we're going to handle this.

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<v SPEAKER_00>May change later as the the church changes.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Uh, but for now, if you feel that impression, just go in the back.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In the back right now, Ben's back there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Where's Pete?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Is Pete in here or is he in the with the kids?

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<v SPEAKER_00>Always being like Jesus back with the kids.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Um but Pete and then Brian Barnes, who isn't here this morning, but he's always outside at the door greeting or in the in the kitchen as well.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just come to one of the four of us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I'm one of the elders as well, um, and just tell us, because I I say 90%, it's almost 100% of the time, one of the elders is back there.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Just go grab him, tell them what's going on, and at the next natural transition, then we'll see what the Holy Spirit wants to do.

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<v SPEAKER_00>It's it'll be as simple as that, but let's pray together.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, I thank you so much for your word.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I thank you for each and every person that you have brought here this morning, that you have made a part of this body, Lord, of this church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>I thank you for the giftings that you have given each one of us.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, not for ourselves, not for self-edification, but that you've given us for the building up of your church.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, ultimately for the building up of your kingdom.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, I pray that you would show us how to use those gifts in our everyday life.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Before service, after service, at work, Lord, when we're in home groups, when in discipleship times, when we're just hanging out with people and in fellowship, when we're barbecuing tonight or tomorrow or whatever it might be.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, that you would uh just have your way, that you would show us how to use these gifts to build one another up, to build this church, the body of Christ, up.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Lord, help us to be willing to step out in faith, to be stretched in ways that we might feel awkward at first or even afraid.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Would you just show us how to listen, to walk by the voice of the Holy Spirit, and to act out in the ways that He's inspiring, that He's nudging, that He's telling us to.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Show us how to do this well as a body, we pray.

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<v SPEAKER_00>In Jesus' name.

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<v SPEAKER_00>Amen.
