{"version":"1.0.0","segments":[{"startTime":2.469,"endTime":6.473,"body":"Feed efficiency is one of the hottest topics"},{"startTime":2.469,"endTime":6.473,"body":"in cattle breeding right now."},{"startTime":7.474,"endTime":12.045,"body":"Consumers are demanding lower"},{"startTime":7.474,"endTime":12.045,"body":"methane emission from agriculture"},{"startTime":12.045,"endTime":18.418,"body":"and up to 88% of the variable costs"},{"startTime":12.045,"endTime":18.418,"body":"on a dairy farm relates to feeding the cows."},{"startTime":19.686,"endTime":22.822,"body":"But how do you actually become more"},{"startTime":19.686,"endTime":22.822,"body":"feed efficient as a farmer?"},{"startTime":23.623,"endTime":27.56,"body":"How can you save feed"},{"startTime":23.623,"endTime":27.56,"body":"costs, reduce climate impact"},{"startTime":27.894,"endTime":30.864,"body":"and improve the welfare of your animals?"},{"startTime":32.766,"endTime":36.302,"body":"To give you the best 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welcome, Jan and Anders"},{"startTime":64.197,"endTime":67.934,"body":"and thanks for joining us today."},{"startTime":68.601,"endTime":70.97,"body":"Thanks for inviting us."},{"startTime":68.601,"endTime":70.97,"body":"Thank you."},{"startTime":70.97,"endTime":71.604,"body":"Wonderful."},{"startTime":71.604,"endTime":73.84,"body":"Well, Anders, let's start with you."},{"startTime":73.84,"endTime":77.41,"body":"Why is feed efficiency"},{"startTime":73.84,"endTime":77.41,"body":"a hot topic in dairy farming today?"},{"startTime":78.111,"endTime":84.851,"body":"When you are a dairy producer today,"},{"startTime":78.111,"endTime":84.851,"body":"you need to look into the agenda in our society."},{"startTime":84.851,"endTime":90.056,"body":"And there is a clear agenda"},{"startTime":84.851,"endTime":90.056,"body":"on climate and environment."},{"startTime":90.056,"endTime":94.127,"body":"And we as dairy producers,"},{"startTime":90.056,"endTime":94.127,"body":"we need some 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