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reference","startTime":1528.86,"endTime":1532.656,"body":"at VikingsGenetics.com/Beef."},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1533.365,"endTime":1533.823,"body":"Thank you."},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1533.823,"endTime":1538.453,"body":"Reni Hvam Nielsen and Adners Fogh for"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1533.823,"endTime":1538.453,"body":"sharing these valuable insights with us."},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1538.954,"endTime":1541.248,"body":"Thanks to all of you out there listening."},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1541.248,"endTime":1544.292,"body":"If you have an idea for a topic"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1541.248,"endTime":1544.292,"body":"in the world of cattle breeding"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1544.668,"endTime":1548.004,"body":"that you'd like us to focus on, please"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1544.668,"endTime":1548.004,"body":"visit BreedCast.com"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1548.338,"endTime":1551.216,"body":"or message us on the VikingGenetics"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1548.338,"endTime":1551.216,"body":"Facebook page."},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1552.092,"endTime":1556.263,"body":"My name is Hielke Wiersma, please join me"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1552.092,"endTime":1556.263,"body":"for the next episode of the BreedCast"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1556.263,"endTime":1559.474,"body":"where we've invited Amy Hazel-Loeschke"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1556.263,"endTime":1559.474,"body":"from the US"},{"speaker":"And then to have a nice reference","startTime":1559.474,"endTime":1562.727,"body":"to tell us more 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