The New Nomad

Personalizing Travel Through TryPeanut.com With Brady Simpson | TNN64

July 11, 2022 Andrew Jernigan and Allen Koski Episode 64
The New Nomad
Personalizing Travel Through TryPeanut.com With Brady Simpson | TNN64
Show Notes Transcript

Traveling is the most fun thing to do, but it can become a nasty affair if you don’t do it right. You are venturing somewhere completely new and you really don’t know what things will be like there when you arrive. It’s always a massive learning curve when you leap into the unknown. That's why proper research and planning are necessary to make it enjoyable & memorable.

Brady Simpson, the founder of the Peanut travel company, ensures that travelers have references and a cheat sheet when traveling to a new place. In this episode of The New Nomad, Brady joins Allen Koski and Andrew Jernigan in educating fellow travelers on the importance of knowing and setting expectations when traveling. So whether you are a novice in exploring the unknown or a seasoned traveler, tune in to this week’s episode to plan for a smarter, more convenient way to travel.


[6:20] A LOT can go wrong in your travels

[10:37] It's good to know what to expect

[20:12] The Pandemic gave the gift of time and innovation

[24:37] Great minds bond over great projects

[28:16] Just start taking action and be consistent

[32:00] The joy you feel when you’re in your happy place


GUEST BIO:

Brady Simpson is a serial founder and product manager. He founded and is currently the head of Peanut, a travel company that helps travelers know what to expect in their journey. His entrepreneurial journey started in 2009 founding 3M8 and building multi-touch solutions for businesses. He then transitioned to product management at a consumer startup in Washington DC.

Today, Brady is a product manager at LinkedIn and manages Simtek. He enjoys leading teams to ship new experiences and discovering opportunities and ideas to execute. A big dreamer and always thinking about new ideas, he cares about the details but there's often no single correct answer in product building. His superpower is recruiting + building high-caliber engineering teams, and execution. 


Brady Simpson Links:
LinkedIn: linkedin.com/in/wbsimpson
Website: bradysimpson.com
Twitter: lcdmultitouch


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Allen  

Welcome and thanks to for joining us at The New Nomad podcast. We have a really interesting conversation, Andrew, today. Brady Simpson, founder, serial entrepreneur, somebody who we've gotten to know well as trypeanut.com. Has joined the Insured Nomads family or we've joined his family, it's a great thing as we try to help people self curate travel and give people the confidence to to go to different places and actually go there personalized information, etc. Andrew, you were very much involved with your conversation with Brady. Share with us a little bit about what you know about what we're doing with Try Peanut and then we'll bring Brady into the conversation.


Andrew  

You know, this is this is so exhilarating having Peanut as part of the Insured Nomads family because providing the data, the intel, the insights is has been the highest priority for us. And now to have announced last week, the acquisition, it's just exciting. And with the news, hitting our faces every day of the epic cancellations on travel, these this type of data is essential to know what the policies are, to know when cancellations are taking place, to know when you're you know, we'll dive into some of these details in a few minutes to hear the maker actually tell us about the product. But it's gonna be good hearing Brady talk about Peanut with us today. Welcome, Brady.


Allen  

So Brady, I'm a I'm somebody who's not the most tech savvy helped me understand your journey. And you and I believe this journey started during COVID-19 are because of outcropping of, hey, we need to give people a better browsing experience. Because to this day, when I go set up trips, I just go and hit the web, and I have no idea if the weather's gonna be bad there, or this is a flight that's cancelled often or the hotel is renovated, you put something together that I now have Try Peanut on my Chrome browser, it helps, I'd love to hear your journey. And first off how you generated a thought on this is a problem that needs to be solved and then how you solved it.


Brady  

Yeah, happy to go through a little bit of the story. So you know, I think travel is an interesting space for consumers, right? We often think of travel is something that's, you know, unattainable, or, you know, it can be a big challenge to actually plan and get through and sometimes you're almost exhausted before you've even taken the trip, right. And I'm somebody who absolutely loves to travel. And when the pandemic hit, you know, that took a big hit to my well being, frankly, because I'm somebody who's always got to have the travel plans in the future. And when everything shut down, we couldn't do that, right. And so after a little while, I decided to take a trip, right and take a chance. And this was around the time that COVID-19 had, you know, hit the United States in March of 2019. And so I was booking a trip to Taiwan. And I was astounded and really surprised that on Expedia and some of these other kind of online tools that we use, there was absolutely nothing in regards to COVID-19. It's like, wait a second, you know, I get to the airport. And there's all these, you know, things happening with COVID. But none of that was told to me before buying the ticket on the site. And so I found that really odd. And then I thought about the entire industry in general, and all these websites, all of these booking sites, they're legacy, right? They've been around for decades. And so they're pretty slow to kind of change a lot of this stuff and they really care about conversion, right and selling tickets. 


Brady  

And so I took the trip, and everything ended up being fine, but I couldn't get this out of my head. Like, why is there such limited information shown when we're booking trips, right? And if you can think about all the different things that might happen, or all the different kinds of companies that you interface when planning and booking and ultimately taking a trip, there's a lot of different things that need to go right, there's a lot of different failure points. Even something as basic as like, is this airline safe? Or will this airline, you know, lose my luggage, right? And what is their on time performance? These are like really basic questions and really basic things that you don't really get when you're looking at travel and buying tickets. And this, you know, is pretty different because if you look at other consumer products and kind of other marketplaces. Let's take for example Amazon or you know, some of these other websites, you know, you do have the star rating, and you can look at reviews for every product, right, but you don't really get that same level of confidence in detail with with tickets and with, you know, booking travel.


Brady  

And so, you know, it was kind of this mix of, hey, what if we built a product that could kind of deliver some real time insights, to kind of let you know, is this going to be a good trip or, you know, give you a little bit more expectations. And just at the most basic level, we wanted to get COVID information right in the booking process. And so that was the initial kind of idea was, let's make it a lot easier to travel during the pandemic, so that you can learn about where you can go, what countries are open, and what the restrictions are just for like a very bare bones practical level. And then, you know, we started to say, okay, what are all these other things that we can provide to travellers that might boost confidence, right. And when I think about all the times that I've been kind of screwed on travel, a lot of those could have been mitigated or could have been helped with a tool like this. 


Brady  

I'll just give you one other example. So I booked a multi city trip from the United States to Singapore, and then Singapore to Vietnam. Had a great time in Singapore. And then when it came time to go to Vietnam, I couldn't afford the flight. And that was because I didn't have a visa. And I didn't realize now it makes sense, in hindsight, right. But I didn't realize at the time that I needed a visa as an American, to travel to Vietnam. And on the OTA that I was using, there was no information about a visa needed. Only if you booked a single roundtrip ticket, when they tell you multi-city, it wasn't supported. So things like this where I felt, you know, a lot of these mistakes could be very costly in both time and both money. And just like overall pain of the trip, that you know, somebody needs to build something that can kind of act as a layer or a more informative tool to let people book better trips. And so that was kind of the initial thesis of it. 


Brady  

And we decided to use a Chrome extension for a couple reasons, we can talk about this more later as well. But one was, we didn't want to change where people were already booking travel. It's very challenging to build a new product and tell everybody Hey, forget what you're already using to book travel, only use our thing, right. And so what we wanted to do was provide that insight onto the platforms, people were already use it. And so a Chrome extension turned out to be a pretty good path to do that. And so the way Peanut works is you just install it once on your Google Chrome browser and then it will essentially follow you around on all the major booking websites like Expedia, booking.com, and, and Google Flights. And, you know, we felt like, Okay, this is going to cover most of the market who starts at one of these OTAs to look at different flights and figure out what works for them. And so that's kind of just a little bit of the overview on the backstory, and why we decided to build the the Chrome extension. 


Allen  

So Brady, I hear you loud and clear on the visa issues they pop up. But also, the other thing I think that you do marvellously is the times that I've seen a great deal on a hotel, and then you show up and you realize Well, the reason why I had the great deal was because the the pool is being renovated. There's somebody who starts jackhammering of the parking lot in the morning, and there's the whole hotel renovation going on and where cheap becomes expensive. And I think that some of the things that you pulled together or when you're talking about Vietnam, there have been Vietnam, there's the season that it's the rainy season. That may be the reason why that great deal you're getting is because it's in the middle of the rainy season and nobody wants to be there, then, so maybe you could share with with some folks here on how kind of you pull some of these data points together. And then also maybe even clear up for me is when you add the Chrome extension, do you have to grow through the Chrome extension to get to Expedia or is when the extension is there, it helps you get the data you want. So just how have clear people's minds on this.


Brady  

Yeah. So on the second part, you know, the way it works is you just open up Expedia on your browser when you have Peanut installed, and it'll just pop up right there. Right. And so it's not like you've got to go to a specific website or try to change your booking habit, whatever you use between Google Flights or Expedia or booking.com, you just use that normally and Peanut shows up on the side, similar to Honey and you know, Grammarly, and some of these other Chrome extensions that people might have. So, you know, in terms of some of the data points, you know, the weather one was actually inspired by a cheap, cheap trip I took to Denmark. I went in March, a few years ago, and you think, oh, spring in Scandinavia, it's gonna be great, you know, no, no tourists, no crowds. Turns out, it was freezing and raining sideways, huge ice buckets. I mean, we were bone chilling cold, and it must have been like, you know, upper 30s, low 40s. Just kind of miserable. And, you know, I was okay. But my wife wasn't, you know, I like to, I think a Scandinavian say there's no bad weather, just bad clothes. And I think they kind of said that for, you know, spring, to be honest. But there's a lot of that right. Think about hurricane season in the Caribbean. Right? Think about monsoon season, right, if we're talking about Southeast Asia monsoon and typhoon season, you know, or go into Palm Springs in August, you think great, I'm gonna go golfing. Wait a second, it's gonna be 115 degrees? I don't think so. So, you know, weather, right? These are, these are things that impact travel considerably. And can mean the difference between a great trip and, frankly, one that you might have felt better staying home. And something as basic as weather is actually difficult to figure out. And it's incredibly difficult to figure out when you're booking something six months in advance, you're not going to have a forecast, right? And so what we did was said, Okay, what are all of the things that you need to Google, when you're booking a trip that are essentially not shown on some of these booking websites whether it's a big one, right. 


Brady  

Visas are another one, flight delays, flight cancellations are another one. But you know, when we think about what insights do we want to show, right, it's all about providing things that can help you make a decision. Right? So if we can show you kind of something around weather that can help you make a decision decide, hey, do I want to take this trip? Or do I want to actually look at a different month, right? That's what Peanut is ultimately all about, right? It's not necessarily, you know, trying to kind of force your hand one way or another. But what it's really trying to do is say, let's help you book the best trip possible, and help you have confidence in that. And one thing we've learned is that, you know, people are okay, accepting some risk, right, and some degree of uncertainty. But if you can let them know about that ahead of time, they will feel much more prepared and much more confident in it. You know, so for example, if you knew a flight that you were taking, while it was cheap, may feel a little bit risky to be on time on the performance side. And you knew that ahead of time you know, you might feel a little bit better, right? If it gets a, you know, 30 minute delay or an hour delay, because that was within the bounds of the expectations. So, beyond weather, right, we have visa insights, we have the hotel insight that you were talking about. The hotel one is pretty special. I think what's interesting about this is, you know, hotels are booked a little differently, right? People do have star ratings, right? There's kind of industry standards around around star ratings. And there's typically also user ratings and photos. The challenge with this is you can't 100% rely on star ratings and user submitted reviews. Oftentimes, they end up being like a U curve, right? Where there's like either a bunch of ones and a bunch of fives and there's nothing in between it. And it's hard to make sense of it. How old are these photos? Are these staged? Right did the hotel taking the stage photos years ago and they look great, but it doesn't match what's happening on the ground now. And so I think we've all probably had this experience where you book a hotel thinking it's going it'd be really nice and you get there, and you're like, wait a second, this kind of looks a little drab. It looks really old, you know, and it just doesn't meet your quality bar. And so what we've done with hotels is tried to build a product that, you know, at least gives you some objective data, to sift through all of that subjective, you know, user research and user submitted reviews.


Andrew  

You know, Brady, you you hit on something here that actually used Peanut is when we were looking into travel to an international city recently Allen and I went and the conference hotel, I checked it out and Peanut told me, it was renovated 13 years ago. And of course, we actually opted for a different hotel much newer, nicer, and got there, and we're pleased that we did stay where we did. But Peanut was very helpful in that case, because beautiful website, conference hotel and be so much more convenient. We have no regrets in staying where we did and Peanut was instrumental in helping us make that choice. That it's, you never know which piece of data you're going to need. And being multifaceted like this. It's I'm greatly admire the team and how you guys have built the scraping the data? And can you speak into the team that that has put this together over the past two year and a half, two years? 


Brady  

Yeah, certainly one thing to just add to your hotel thing, you know, even if it's a lower quality hotel, or a lower tier, what we've found is sharing that information, right, can be a great, tiebreaker. Right? So in your case, right, you might have narrowed it down to one or two, but now that you've got this information from Peanut, it kind of makes that decision a lot easier to make. And even if it's a Holiday Inn, right, even if it's something a little lower tier, if that was recently renovated a few years ago, that's still gonna be a nice day. So that's, ultimately what we're trying to do is help people have better trips.


Brady  

So onto the team. Yeah. So we are a team of engineers, designers and different tech folks, based in California, Seattle. Actually, you know, our partnership manager, Casey's down there in Birmingham, as well, which I know you guys have have ties to and Andrew, you're from there. So, you know, I come from, you know, tech, right in the Bay Area, and previously had worked at Facebook and now I'm the Senior Product Manager at LinkedIn. So for us, me in particular, like my specialty is, you know, building products, building a good engineering team, and really just kind of focusing on that, you know, heart, you know, on the technical side of things. And so, pretty much all of our team is, you know, former or current big tech like Facebook, LinkedIn, Figma, you know, Google, etc. And some of the folks actually most people I didn't actually even know prior to starting Peanut. So I had this concept, you know, went to Taiwan started thinking about the idea and really started crystallizing it in a one pager. So I kind of wrote down who we were targeting what the overall product would be. And then I started to reach out to my network. And what I found personally, that works in recruiting is kind of a friends of friends approach. So you know, not asking people that I actually know intimately but asking somebody I've worked with before and somebody respects and Hey, who's one person that you think would be a good back end engineer. Right? And then they can Oh, you know, I do have somebody in mind. And so that's kind of how all of our all of these initial conversations started. And it turns out, you know, no surprise, if you've got a really interesting kind of problem and space that you're working in. Recruiting is is not the hardest thing in the world. It is manageable.


Brady  

And then I think the other huge thing about the team is, you know, everyone was really motivated to work on peanut but still had their own other job. And I think this is actually a really important thing, because it meant the commitment wasn't as mentally heavy, severely, oh, you know, I would love to work on that, right? Because they don't have to quit their jobs. Right. And even though we ended up probably putting in, you know, pretty much full time hours every week. It still felt very fulfilling, and not quite as risky as if we all were to leave and Oh, you know, I only work on this. And so I think that was a big part of this too. But you know, it's amazing what you can accomplish with consistent day in and day out work. 


Allen  

Brady do you think this may have happened because you were unable to travel through the pandemic quite a bit, and you had some spare time. But you also knew we were going to come out of the pandemic, and there was going to be this pent up demand of, yes, we got to get going. But I'm finding that more and more people will only travel now if they feel a greater level of support. I mean, like Andrew and I, on the insurance side, you know, those 20 or so countries that people need insurance to enter, they're asking more questions, more data. I mean, frankly, I think your timing was tremendous, to not only develop, but also to roll something out. I would just love your thought on the timing of Peanut, because I know Andrew and I have an opinion on how and helped Insured Nomads during this period of time, also to get some undivided attention if we were all traveling all over the place.


Brady  

Yeah, no, I think on your second point, certainly, we have benefited from COVID freeing up lots of time for us, right, not as many social commitments, you know, well, frankly, in the first year, there was basically none for me, right. And it was very easy to go heads down into into Peanut because, you know, suddenly, every weekend, you know, every night, you know, it was just kind of devoted to this. So I do think, you know, in that sense, COVID was kind of a blessing in disguise in terms of productivity and being able to work on and have that focus. In terms of timing on the market, so this one's hard, because we actually didn't know. So if you think back to how COVID has evolved, we actually thought pretty early on that we had missed the boat. Because once that vaccine came out, we thought, you know, everything is just gonna go back to normal, like the snap of the finger. Right? And we were we were kind of nervous thinking, Okay, well, how useful is this? If just overnight, you know, everything goes back to the way it was. And then we realized, oh, wait a second, like, even without COVID, right, there's all of these different data points that you need to make decisions for travel. So of course, it will be useful. 


Brady  

But just purely speaking about Peanut's COVID, you know, information. We didn't know that early on, it was going to be quite as long of a journey, as we've seen. And the honest truth is, I mean, we're still kind of not 100% out of this. I mean, we don't exactly know, what's going to happen this winter, for example, or how variants are going to evolve. I mean, certainly, we hope all of this has done and travel will continue to grow, as we've seen it hit essentially pre pandemic highs as of late. But what we focused on was continuing to build and continuing to generate ideas to, you know, help people find the insights that matter in the booking process. And so we certainly didn't get to build out everything that we've wanted to we've got a great roadmap still that, you know, Andrew and I have been working together on and talking about which we can go into another time. But there is a lot of information and there's a lot of people travelling. So ICP net being valuable with or without COVID just so happened that that's kind of what we launched with.


Allen  

Brady it one quick question also about taking with this group, that you've developed some new friends, I loved your comment about how you talk to a friend and who you would bring into this. I know during the pandemic, you know, having personalize you can't meet people personally, but you meet people this way. I assume that also through this product project. There were new relationships and friendships made, they're probably also helped get through the period of time, just like your in Insured Nomads, which we started during the pandemic, being able to catch up with Andrew and for other members of our team. It helped us through just a quick comment on personal relationships that are developed on when you build a project like this for our remote worker audience. It sounds like working on off the side of your desk. A project like this brings people together also. Your thoughts? 


Brady  

Yes. Many years, multiple time, you know, multiple times a week right? And often you know what is supposed to be a 30 minute meeting turns into an hour and a half right? So you do end up building those bonds and forming these relationships and friendships really over for, you know, 18 months of building nights and weekends, right, that's a lot of hours. So that happens. But what's interesting is, you know, we didn't meet in person, we never met in person as a full team, I probably only met a couple of the team in person in the, you know, 18 plus months that we've been working together. And it just is kind of a testament to me for another topic, which is remote work, right, and just how effective that can be. Right. And, you know, no office needed, you know, in person meetings, right. Everything happening kind of asynchronous, and through weekly meetings, and all of that. And so, we did form some pretty strong relationships. Ended meet a couple of times in person with some of the people to do research, but that was that was about the extent of it.


Andrew  

So So Brady, I've heard a couple of things here, one, in the midst of full time job, you started this company, but I don't think this is your first right, your you've done this before successfully. And I know many of your team members have been involved with different side projects that have become very profitable. And I believe that a lot of our listeners are saying, Okay, I'm building something, I need some hope this is encouraging, someone's creation was acquired. And they're, you know, light bulbs are going off as people are listening. And one, thanks, everybody for listening, subscribe and review us on on the channel you're listening to please, does help visibility. And so Brady, speak into that, if you will, into founding startups while you're in a full time role somewhere. And no, one major factors is that your employer has to endorse that kind of work.


Brady  

Yes, yeah. There's, there's basically a checklist, right, and the first thing on that checklist is, make sure your employer is legally signs off, right, your manager, you know, at LinkedIn, there was a formal process. And it's really mainly to make sure that there's no conflict of interest, right, and you're not building a product that will directly compete with your employer. That is definitely no, no. And, you know, you certainly don't want to poach any, you know, co workers and kind of all of that. So get the legal side taken care of. But, you know, I think one of the one of the best kind of quotes or things that I like to think of is from this founder called Sara Blakely, who started Spanx, right, she was selling fax machines, you know, and, and had this great idea, and then just went for it. And, you know, now she's a billionaire, right, and created a massive brand and just super successful, very inspiring kind of rags to riches story a little bit. And she likes to say, is it day one or some day? Right, and you just have to get started, you literally just have to start doing, you got to take action. And I think for me, what helps is having a very consistent routine, you know, everybody's going to be different. But setting a very consistent routine, okay, I'm going to work on Peanut, you know, at seven in the morning until 9am. And then essentially after dinner from, you know, let's say, you know, seven to 11, or something like that, right? And maybe you don't need five or six hours every day. But even if it's just one hour, two hours, you know, you don't want to underestimate even just one or two hours a day, every single day. Right? Replace that TV time, right? We don't need that, right? I mean, maybe some of us need that for a little bit. But everybody's got 24 hours in a day. And we all you know, manage our time. So I think that's the big thing is just being consistent. And then of course, you've got to have great people, you know, it's easy to I feel like my life is a lot of analogies and kind of adages and things but there's another great one, which is like, if you want to go fast, go alone, if you want to go far go together. And that is 100%. True, like you've got to put together a good team. Otherwise, you're just going to be spinning your wheels after six months, you know, you're gonna feel like you're not able to make up as much ground as you can. So put together good team, get everything signed off legally, and creative routine. Those are the kind of three biggest things that I would advocate for. 


Allen  

Brady excellent, excellent feedback. So Brady, this is an area that we asked all of our guests and we'd love to get your answer on. Can you share maybe an overlooked person, place or experience? You've given some great attitudes by the way, I love those I actually wrote a couple of those down. But an overlooked person, place or experience that you would suggest our listeners discover, given how much travel and how entrepreneurial you've been? And if you got a couple of them, no worries there, too. I'd love to hear it. 


Brady  

And yeah, well, I just can't help myself, but talking about travel. And I will talk about an overlooked destination, one that I happen to be going back to in a few months. So you know, for folks who who know me, they know my love of Italy, especially in the last year or so. And there's a region called the Dolomites, which I absolutely love. And it's essentially, you know, the Italian Alps. Right. And this is an area which I had really only discovered a, you know, somewhat recently, you know, I hadn't really heard of a lot of people traveling there, you kind of hear about people going to the Swiss Alps, or the French Alps, but the Italian Alps, oh, what is that even, right? And there is a great, you know, series of towns all over the border of the Italian Alps. But there's just one place called Selva Gardena and there is a specific sauna hotel. I don't know if any of you are into saunas, if you're listening, but they've got a whole bunch of different kinds, hot ones, and steam shot, you know, steam rooms, all kinds of different things. And, you know, I always find that travel is extremely perspective setting, and rejuvenating. And I kid you not every time I even just think about going back to this specific place, this specific sauna hotel, it just immediately kind of brings me peace. So I'm excited about that. I think getting out to somewhere that is your happy place. I think it's just really, you know, beneficial. So that is an overlooked place that I can recommend and talk about all day.


Andrew  

Love that Brady. And I won't go to the data data team and say, Hey, let's grab every hotel that has a sauna. Because I do actually look at hotels and check to see if they have a sauna often. But, you know, I look at Peanut and think okay, wow, there's a lot we can, a lot is there. 


Brady  

That's an amazing feature. Everyone loved that.


Andrew  

Right? I have to agree with you there. Okay, folks, I've heard things I've gotten ideas. They want to figure out the other companies you've started where can people find out more about you? And this will be


Allen  

head on over to LinkedIn and search Brady Simpson, you know, follow me there and you know, you can check out everything else I'm up to right. 


Allen  

Great. Brady, one other thing you suggested in one of your writings about a durian the fruit that is your favourite. I was I was I was betting that that was going to be one of your overlooked i And I love the Dolomites. But two seconds quickly on a durian which is I really think it's a tremendously unique fruit. And I'd love for you to share with our audience.


Brady  

If you like stinky cheese, you are going to love durian. Yes. That way. It's a It's an acquired taste. 


Allen  

I know you're gonna, well played my friend well played. So great, great episode today. So happy that, frankly, I have tried peanut.com on my browser too, Andrew. We're so happy to be having this personalized browsing experience where people self can self curate. What did we learn today? We'd love to get your your perspective, Andrew.


Andrew  

I've, you know, I've not been to the Dolomite Alps and I want to know, I must admit. I opened a new tab and checked it out. But it's a region I like but I haven't I didn't even know that was there and want to go. You know, this is this has been great having you on Brady and and just to hear some of the depth beyond behind the team and what you guys have built is it's been really good. 


Allen  

So folks, we yeah, 


Brady  

we appreciate you having me on. 


Allen  

So folks, we really hope you do go to try peanut.com There'll be in our show notes. I think it makes a huge difference in your experience. We want everybody to travel safely, securely, and it makes a fantastic change on things. So for those of you we want to remind you The New Nomad's, not just the podcast, it's community of people, ideas and spirit. We want you to travel safely. The best way for people learn about the podcast is just tell one other person and have them look for our podcast and join us. Thanks again and we look forward to catching you next week once again thank you from The New Nomad podcast