It Might Be You

Trusting The Flow

August 05, 2021 Leah McIntosh Season 1 Episode 13
It Might Be You
Trusting The Flow
Transcript

Leah McIntosh  0:00  
Welcome to it might be your podcast. I'm your host, Leah McIntosh. We're here to help you understand that on the other side of that pain and trauma is your transformation. There may be some limiting beliefs, negative emotions, and private struggles that have led you to having your it might be. I'm here to help you learn to adapt, because we are created to be limitless. My hope is with each episode you feel more free and understood. The willing to accept all those some of our past decisions landed us in a place of uncertainty. We are only one decision away from living our best lives. Now. Let's heal. 

Leah McIntosh Hey, everyone, welcome to another episode of you might be you. I have a guest with me today. Jana Osta. She is a health and wellness coach, as well as a yoga and meditation teacher. How are you today?  

Jana Osta Good. Thank you. How are you? 

Leah McIntosh I am great. I'm great. I'm excited to get to know you and learn your story. So with that, you know, share a little bit about you. 

Jana Osta Well, thank you, thank you for having me here. I'm

Jana Osto  1:23  
very excited to be sharing my story, sharing it with you specifically and with your audience. So yeah, as you said, I'm a health and wellness coach. I'm also a Kundalini yoga teacher, which is a very specific meditative and spiritual yoga practice, practice that say, Yeah, and I had a long time, focused in corporate for the longest time in my life. So I come from a corporate background, which means I worked in marketing and business for over 10 years. And somewhere along the way, I found yoga and from day my journey grew, for me to become who I am today.

Leah McIntosh  2:07  
Awesome. So we're just gonna jump right in? And what was your you know, your it might be me moment where, you know, you want it to change from that corporate lifestyle to you know, what you're doing now?

Jana Osto  2:27  
Yeah, you know, ever since University, not even corporate world, I felt like, I live in a system that I don't really fit into. I always felt like I was being pushed into things. I felt like I was being pushed into studying business marketing, because it was what would make me successful imitatia Mark successful, I was pushed into applying and seeking big corporate jobs, following that corporate corporate ladder. And you know, what, I was quite successful. I was doing well. really successful, top of my game, very hard working, very committed. But there was always this question almost every day that comes up to me, which is, Is this it? And I always felt like is this Ed's? Is this my life? It doesn't it didn't feel right. For a very long time, I'm saying more than 15 years or so, with this question. This question of is this it, I have to do this or is this is the rules I need to follow. This is what I need to do. So it was a lot of this feeling of I have to be here. This is what I should be doing. This is what success is this is what is expected of me. And I can tell you, that could be so extremely draining, very draining up to a point where I was crying almost daily. Because that reached a point is the set is this it is this day after day, to the point where I was like, This is not it. But I have no clue what to do. Because I drove my life into that system. You know, I studied to get into that system. I worked hard to be in that system. I was able to join big corporate companies, I was able to go up that corporate ladder and now I'm asking all these questions and not sure what the answer is. So I went into a very deep hole of stress, anxiety, disconnection, feeling like I don't belong, crying demotivation lack of inspiration. And anyway, that that was the moment I would say that was the moment where that sparked something that sparked something, which was the beginning of the awareness of this is not the beginning of You know what, this is not it. Right. And from there, I think that awareness just started inviting things into my life. So for me, it was yoga, and for many people, it is yoga, which is amazing. And that's why so many people are seeking yoga. But what was in yoga that brought me into that, like life defining moment, and I remember it is in one specific class, when we were doing a meditation, and the instructor said, at the end of the class, so now close your eyes, and look inwards. I was the first time I heard that, like, really heard it, and now look inwards. And I left this class knowing that I needed to look inwards, that I needed to stop this seeking, maybe I should do more, maybe I should seek something new, maybe I should apply to a new job, maybe I should change countries, you know, seeking this system of doing and changing things and new job and more growth into stopping and looking inside. So at that moment, I want to do my yoga teacher training, I went to India for a whole month, up in the mountains, and Dharamshala, which is a very sacred space, very serene, very isolated for a whole month. All I did was just tune in, tune into myself. And that was that was the beginning. That was the beginning of Wolf, there is something deeper. And now this is the new, you know, this is this is. So there was hope there. This is where my hope journey starts, let's

Leah McIntosh  7:23  
say. And you know, what I can I completely relate to that feeling of in question. Is this all there? Is, is this it? Like it, this can't be it. I don't want this to be it. And minds was, like, early, right after I was 2021. And I just decided, you know what, this is not going to be it for me. And I'll just reinvent myself until I figure out what it is. And it's taken me like you like 15 years to finally figure out exactly. What brings me the most joy and the alignment and just knowing that I'm being authentically Lia. And it was hard pressed, it was a fight to get that, but it's been worth it. And like you said, it's that peace. There's no feeling like it, I think mine's I haven't felt freer just to be me, ever in my life. And it really started for me, my, the big pillar for me was learning, self forgiveness, or so many different things, but mostly adapting, you know, identities that didn't really fit me. And like you said, with society. You are forced to kind of fit into a mode that maybe you don't, you know, want to be and I've always kind of considered myself a rebel. And doing the norm was never of interest to me. But like you said, I didn't want to be poor. You know, I wanted to have nice things. And so I did what I thought I had to until I could figure out what really brought the most joy for me. So with that, I have some questions about making that transition for you for you. Did you have support in doing that?

Jana Osto  9:48  
I would say at the beginning. No. At the beginning, I didn't have support because I was really moving away from Something that I've built for myself, I was married, I was, you know, starting, not not kids, but it was kind of building for a family, our successful like I was saying, and suddenly I was I stopped, and I said, I'm, I need time to think about everything. So of course, I didn't know how to get the support, I didn't know where to get the support from, there was a lot of fear. There was a lot of fear that was coming up for me. But as soon as I started, I found the support. So what I'm trying to say is taking the first step was me on my own was me saying, I don't care who's gonna come in my way, no one really came in my way. But you know, you hear people, they ask questions, sometimes it could affect you, it could stop you from doing what you want to do. So at that time, it was just me pushing through. But once I took the first step, so for me, it was my teacher training in India, I met so many people who are on the same journey, and there is when I started to find support. So I think it's just this first step, that is difficult. And for me, it was I had to do it on my own, because I was going against all of the support that I had, which was support network support to be successful supportable the family support, to follow the system, support to live in big cities, and all of that, you know, so yeah, but along the way, I would say what allowed me to grow was support. So from there on, for the next seven, eight years, after my the beginning of my yoga journey, without the support, I wouldn't be where I am today. So through mentorship therapy, guidance coaches, I was able to dig deeper heal from from any past trauma, I was able to trust myself more reignite that inner power. So yeah, along the way, support was definitely a big pillar.

Leah McIntosh  12:09  
And I and I completely understand that, you know, when you go on a journey, or healing, those closest to you sometimes have the hardest time understanding what you're doing. It's the fear of the Unknown, Unknown. You know, when I told my, my family, I wanted to learn more about neuro linguistic programming, the first stuff that they said is what you need to know, that is, you're messing with stuff you don't know. And I'm like, you, you know, you don't know what that is. And that's okay. But, you know, this helps me, you know, this is what I want to do. So, I have to say, I guess I was, and have been really fortunate. Because my husband has always kind of supported my, my ideas as far as, like pretty much anything that I want to do. He's like, Well, fine, what brings you joy, basically, is his his thought process. So, you know, you said you were your mayor, you were married? And, you know, kind of preparing for that family? Was your husband able to grow to understand, you know, what you were seeking?

Jana Osto  13:39  
Yeah, definitely. I mean, I also strongly believe, like, you were saying, without the support of specifically immediate family, it's really hard to grow was really hard to stay on your journey. So he's very supportive. And I don't think I would be where I am today without his support, because he financially he's he took, took a lot on his shoulder because I was leaving the corporate world, for instance. But also mentally, you know, he had to change his kind of mindset into, you know, what, maybe we have to wait a bit for China to grow before we start thinking of building a family. So there was a lot of patients from his side along the way, and I totally appreciate that. But definitely at the beginning, that takes time, because suddenly, you're coming up to someone who's known you for a long time and saying, Hey, listen, I'm now about to discover new things about myself. So I'm not sure what's gonna come my way. So be ready to expect changes around. So really realizing as a journey along the way that I changed tremendously. And that's not easy for my husband. That's not easy for him to see. Whoa, like you're not the person I met. Thankfully, it's true. The better. But I appreciate that for him. It's not an easy change journey as well. But he was able to keep up with that.

Leah McIntosh  15:09  
And with that, like, has he changed some of his you know, sometimes I've noticed that it's, it's hard for a spouse, or significant other to stay where they're, when you're up leveling, you know, they get interested, like, my husband is not into any of this. But he asked me the other night to teach him how to do EFT. And that was so like, out of the realm of ordinary, I was like, What is going on? But it made me happy, because I'm like, okay, you're taking an interest? And you're, you know, you're noticing that this could help you. So yeah,

Jana Osto  15:53  
exactly, you know, along the way, because I was changing a lot, then you start to build expectations of other people having to keep up with your change, right? Like, why don't why aren't you doing this? Why aren't you meditating warranty on that journey. And I had to learn that, you know, each person has their own journey, each person is on a different journey and finding space to respect that. And that was a big learning process for me to respect that he is on his own journey. And I'm not here to judge what he's going through. And I'm not here to change what is coming through and say, you should do this, because that's what's right, because his journey might be very different than mine. And the most important thing I learned along the way is when you change, you know, you start this energy starts to flow all around you. And without you having to tell your husband or your friends or your immediate family, that this is what you should be doing to live a healthy and happy life, they start to feed on to this energy, subconsciously. And yeah, sometimes I catch him chanting, sometimes I catch him do the breathing, you know, so so things happen without you having to force them onto people around you. And that's something that I really learned as, as the best process for couples, when one person is changing, and the other is on a different path is trusting the process. And learning through that process. There's also a lot of learning of him mirroring my judgment towards myself, you know, why are you smoking? But that's me judging my past in terms of smoking, why are you not doing this? It's me judging myself in a way. So also trusting that, you know, our partners are also a mirror of our inner selves, as well. And they're here to teach us something even with the struggles, even if they're not on this ultimate path that we think they should be on. Yeah, so it's, it's, it's one of the best learning experiences is to grow with your partner. And that way,

Leah McIntosh  18:04  
definitely. I couldn't agree more with you, because I know he's on a different journey than me. And even though I know some of the, the tools and techniques that I use, you know, to dive deep, to heal the traumas, could help him immensely, he's just not ready for that, and exaggerating, and, you know, browbeating somebody about their journey is not going to help them and not really entice them to you know, dig deep at all. So if and when he even wants to journey deep he will, and that's fine. And I guess I want to I want to talk a little bit more about your yoga practice and the meditation. Because for me, I learned Transcendental Meditation. I tried all kinds of other meditations, but I can never stick with it, like my mind would just race. I tried the guided stuff, I just couldn't do it. And sitting there for an hour. I couldn't, could not do it. But learning Transcendental Meditation was a game changer for me. because like you said, you're never really taught to look within, you know, and to sit in and try to have a quiet mind. You really get to know yourself. When you're in a quiet place with you. There's no other distractions. So what I like I want to No, you, you said that the yoga, the two teachers are different than some of the other yoga practices. So what? What's different about it?

Jana Osto  20:13  
Yeah. So all your guys ultimately take you towards the same ultimate purpose, right? So all Yoga is there to take you towards a journey of inner bliss, of being able to find peace, even when there's chaos around you, few being able to be centered within yourself in ecstasy, even if nothing around you is working. So it's tapping to this deep power within you to find ecstasy and joy in life, right. But each style of yoga takes you towards that purpose in a different way. So we're all going there through yoga, but different styles, different methodologies, like you said, some meditations worked for you some didn't. The style of yoga that I teach is called Kundalini Yoga. And Kundalini as a word means it's this energy within you, it's this creative energy within you. But most of us live throughout our whole life, not tapping into this energy, it's a sleeping energy that lies at the bottom of your spine at your lower spine, right. So once we tap into this energy, this energy awakens, and it's rock rotating around our spine, till it reaches the crown of our head. So it's this expansion from our lower energy centers, to our higher energy centers to bring you this awakening. So Kundalini really is this untapped energy that we want to tap into, to access our inner and infinite power as human beings. So in Kundalini Yoga, we work a lot on harnessing and awakening that energy. And how we do that is using using different tools, like breathwork. So powerful breathing exercises that really trigger your energy that's really awake in your blood circulation and oxygen levels. Definitely meditation movement as the but the kind of movement we do, and this form of yoga is very dynamic, dynamic as then it's, it's a powerful, strong movement for a long period of time. So it's like three minutes of arms up and down, arms up and down, I'm just giving one example. Right. So it's this dynamic, constant movement while breathing with the eyes closed. So it's using the power of movement along with the breath along with meditation along with chanting mantra. So using the sound frequency all put together in one session, to take you on this inward journey. You see, it's a bit different than other forms of yoga, which focus a lot on the physical practice. But Kundalini Yoga is directly even if you're just a beginner session one, you're already meditating, chanting, breathing deeply, eyes are closed and tapping with them. So it's more internalized rather than externalized as a practice. So it's more spiritual, right? So it's less about my flexible body, my my ability to stretch in certain ways, or handstands, or all this cool stuff, which we need in yoga. But it's much more about how are you as a spirit today? Where are you as a spirit today? Our how to connect to that spirit body within you. Hope that makes sense.

Leah McIntosh  23:43  
Makes a lot of sense. I think that this conversation has come up a couple different times this week, where we focus so much on the body, but we do not focus on your insight, you know, your inner spirit, soul mind. That's where the disconnect comes. I think that the most healing comes from when you go with them. And so it sounds like this is a pretty powerful practice. Yeah, and when you were learning this, did you know about it beforehand? or How were you introduced to it?

Jana Osto  24:28  
When I did my first teacher training, it was not in Kundalini Yoga, it was hatha yoga and vinyasa flow. I had no idea what Kundalini Yoga is. But then during the first teacher training, a teacher came to give us a special class and it was a Kundalini yoga class. And this one class just I experienced something tremendous for the first time maybe ever I've experienced eyes closed. For more One and a half hours dancing, freely, shaking, trusting my body, breathing deeply into my body. And it was an experience. It wasn't just I moved my body and a few relax. It was a deep spiritual and healing experience this one class. And since that moment, I knew that I had to learn. And I went on to do my second teacher training, which was in Kundalini Yoga, specifically. So Kundalini Yoga, like you said, actually taught me how to connect to God. And when I say God, in not in a religious sense, but in a, again, spiritual divine sense, that allowed me to connect to something bigger, something higher, allowed me to trust that God, no matter what that means, to whoever is listening, you know, God as in this, this infinite energy is within me, it allowed me to know that I can access this infinite energy at anytime I want. And it was the first time I experienced that. And that's what the practice of Kundalini Yoga, yoga gave me. The stress that within me are the answers and within me as a power that I can tap into with tools that are natural and accessible anytime. Right? And that was life changing. Literally.

Leah McIntosh  26:25  
Yeah. Yeah. And that was like the experience that I got, even though you know, with transcendental, you're sitting up in a chair, and you know, you're quiet, most of the is quiet where you're at. I remember doing it we I learned in a class with other people. And I'm sitting in this room, and it was like, everything, all the noise, all the sound, everything just dropped, I couldn't hear anything. And I got this overwhelming sense of peace that I had never felt ever in my life. And it's like, you said, I knew that I had tapped in. too, too bad. I felt that otherworldly presence. And at that point, I couldn't get enough of it. I was like, Oh, I have I like this, you know, there's, I want to be able to have that, like you said, to be able to do it naturally, is big. But I'm really loving the idea of the Kundalini. Because if you have past traumas, it takes a little bit more than just meditating. You know, the more I learn as I delve deeper into the subconscious, and things like that, is not only was your subconscious mind there, when you experience that trauma, but every part of you was there, and trauma gets gets stuck in your body. And if you're able to move and you're doing the breath work, and you're meditating, you're releasing that stuff. And you may not even know that that's what you were doing. But because you know, for me learning more, that that's a big thing. I've had other guests on that. Talk about getting up and moving to release the trauma from your your body and from yourself. So at adding the other two elements of the breathwork. And meditation is definitely powerful. So how I'm teaching it now,

Jana Osto  28:50  
Kundalini yoga for almost two years now. So not too long. It hasn't been in my life for a long time, but it's just been the most powerful two years of my life probably.

Leah McIntosh  29:01  
Do you feel like you've accelerated like healing during these two years of using this particular point? Oh, yeah. Oh, yes,

Jana Osto  29:11  
big time, big time. Like you said, it's subtle as then you might not know that something is working its way out of you something is being processed. But how I knew is you start to see things shift around you. Suddenly, the people who used to trigger you don't trigger you anymore. Suddenly, the block that you had is removed, suddenly an area you wanted to grow and which was very challenging becomes easy. And you and this is how for me, I knew that I was healing, a lot of trauma there was talking, like I said, in my body as well. So indeed, Kundalini Yoga is a lot about using the body as a tool for healing and processing. And, you know, actually, if you just put three minutes of drumming music and just shake your body to it. That's a very healing practice, right is shaking the body, expressing your body freely. And I will say that if you look at animals, that's their natural response, right? I mean, if if an animal is injured, the first thing a dog or a cat, you would see them do is get up and shake the body. And then they just move on as if nothing happened, like instantaneously. They're like, trauma, healed, processed, I move on. But with us human beings, we hold on to it for a lifetime. But if we could just shake it off, literally every once in a while, that helps a lot. So, so much healing, just through this practice of yoga came into my life. Definitely. But I must say that along the way, I did open up more to to mentorship and therapy, because I knew I was being triggered and things were opening up. And I was opening up to talking about things and expressing myself in new ways. And I knew I needed guidance and support there. So I did seek guidance along that journey. Yeah, definitely.

Leah McIntosh  31:16  
Yeah. And do you? Well, how has, you know, COVID affected? Your practice as far as seeing students?

Jana Osto  31:27  
Yeah, that's an interesting question. Specifically for yoga teachers, all yoga teachers on the yoga teachers, but everyone who's, who shares a practice in a suit your personal trainers, we've all been affected, because obviously, there's now a different kind of demand. And there's a different kind of way to, to support people and serve people. And it's not as simple to do it online. The connection with people is different. So for me, personally, I teach yoga, but it's not my main. If you want, it's not my job. As then, yeah, I don't do it as a job really. So it hasn't really affected me in that way. I just miss being in a suit do I miss being in community because for me, yoga is all about sharing is all about what happens after the class is all about the reflection or the connection, the support that you get from being in an any kind of healing circle or healing practice. And that's what I personally miss is the connection to community. At the same time, I have attended many online courses during covered. And you know why I've made so many good friends online. And I had so much support also online. So it's always a learning process of adjusting to the new. And I guess it's a nice new challenge that, yeah, I'm kind of open up. I've opened up to Yeah,

Leah McIntosh  32:59  
yeah. And I know, you know, last year was a lot for people. Especially with that community, if you're somebody that thrives more in being around people, I know, people were struggling. I am more of a homebody, so it didn't really affect me as it did other people. But I did notice like, nobody wants to be cooped up in the house. 24 seven, and I'm bored. Unfortunately, you kind of had to be. So I did do a lot more exercise and walking and stuff like that than I had done in years. So have you seen like a I know your health and wellness coach, have you seen an influx of people reaching out for those services? Because maybe, you know, I know, there was their stress eating there's, you know, the whole nine there's, there's so many things that could happen I know during last year so and people just, you know, not knowing how to cope and trying to learn new coping skills, because the ones that they may have had just were not serving them anymore. is have you seen? Have you seen that in the communities that are part of?

Jana Osto  34:32  
Oh yeah, definitely, especially for people who work and offices because suddenly you have to switch your whole lifestyle, your ways of working, and you have to be literally ready for the camera camera ready all day long. And you know, this what what we call, which I don't really like but work life balance. There. It was no longer aligned drawn between when do I stop work, I'm at home anyway. So definitely a lot of people reaching out specifically, I mean, from what I saw, at least in the corporate worlds, I think corporate specifically, have been awakened to not only the needs that the most and having, you know, corporate wellness incorporated as part of the company. So this has, I think, now and moving forward, this will be kind of a key pillar for any company to survive, is having a wellness strategy for their employees. And, you know, we all know the levels of depressions are increasing stress and anxiety is increasing. And it's for obvious reasons around us. And it's, it's the role of companies to show up for their employees and to support them on this journey. And that's what I see people asking for more than ever.

Leah McIntosh  35:59  
Yeah. And you're right. I know, like, fortunately, I already worked from home. So it didn't like I said, it didn't affect me that much. The only thing I had to get used to was my husband being home. And so it was like having to draw lines of Where are you going to go work to be out of my hair, so I could have some time. But what happened for me last year, where I think it was my stress level, increase with edit and get a break at all, yeah. being like, my main job, besides being a life and success coaches, I take care of two individuals that are differently abled. And because, you know, their program for shut down in schools were shut down, they were here. So I had it, I went from just me being at home by myself to three guys being loud, obnoxious, and you know, just no space to get things done. And energy wise, for me, I'm somebody that needs quiet and kind of alone time and space to recharge my batteries. And a few times throughout that last year, I wasn't able to do that. And so a manifest in my body is breaking out in hives and things like that. Which, of course, is not a good thing. And I've learned over the course of doing this podcast that, you know, that was a boundary issue that, you know, wasn't taken care of the boundaries and working at home. And having to change that lifestyle, and maybe having kids in that mix as well, where you had to be a teacher. You're right, there was no balance. So I can see, you know, the struggle for people. So what, what piece of advice would you give someone or our listeners right now listening? That might be, you know, on the same journey, or a similar journey to what you were a few years ago? Yeah. What was the biggest thing? I guess that helped you?

Jana Osto  38:35  
Yeah, thank you for that, if I am to start with just tapping into the last, you know, point that you were making, on this, this topic of productivity, you know, society and our culture will always ask for more, we will always be asked to give more to more will be judged based on our performance, on your achievements. On how much are you showing up? How much hours are you putting in, and that's, that's the system, right? So something so important that I'm in the process of also learning is, is not falling into the trap of always doing always being productive, because there will be a point where your body is going to crash, and you're going to pay a price for for that. So really stopping and finding a way of Can I do less, but be as productive or more productive, and not valuing yourself or putting worth onto yourself based on how much I'm doing in terms of hours and showing up and productivity at work really, that that that is not going to make a difference in your life. That's not that's not that's not what's gonna push you forward into success. What's gonna push you into success is doing the right thing is doing the right thing. For you, I was successful for a long time at the wrong thing. Right? So finding something that you can enjoy what you do at and put all of this productivity into something that you love, so that it doesn't seem like it's draining your energy to burn out, right? So if I have to give an advice, really it would be to that that voice within you that we all have, you know, that deep voice that's always kind of creeping and saying things that we sometimes ignore, whether it is I'm tired, as simple as that, or whether it is the big question of is this? Or who am I? Or why am I doing this, you know, stop to the sun. Right? For a few few reasons. But the key reason as this voice will never go away, this voice is gonna stay there. And if you don't listen to this voice, it will manifest somehow into your body. And then, hopefully, God forbid, but most illnesses, energetically, if we were to speak of illness comes from something that dealt with, right, something that you're ignoring in your life. So if you're ignoring this voice, it's gonna keep coming back to you until you listen until it says, I told you, this is not aired, why are you still doing this, get up, change, do something, right. And it's gonna keep creeping, and until you listen, and until you create change in your life. So if you have this kind of voice topic, knowing that, that's my number one advice, my number two as advice is, you don't need to know what you're supposed to do. Because many people come to me and ask, but I don't know. I'm not sure what I should be doing. I don't know, what's my next step? You don't need to know. That's not your job to know what and how it will exactly happen. Yes, but your role is to know what do you need today, now. So I'll give an example. For me. As I was saying, for me, I just enjoyed doing yoga. And I kept doing it. And I kept doing it. And I did more and more. And I went on a teacher training. And I went into the community, and I had yoga friends, and I started teaching yoga. And slowly and slowly and slowly, my life transformed. And I'm now doing exactly what I love to do in my life. So you just need to trust where you're at. And take one step forward to what you think might be at now, whether that is it, or it will transform into something very different in the future, that doesn't matter. You just need to trust to take that one step into the closest thing that feels right, that feels something within me, it's telling me to go to that class, something within me is telling me to take that trip, something is telling me to say hi to this person who might be the person that's going to open the door to the rest of your life, but distrust what something within you is telling you to do next, without having a view on exactly how things are going to unfold over the long term, in terms of the long run in terms of your life, stop wasting your time and energy figuring that out. Focus on what you know now, because that is the door that's gonna take you on to a long path of transformation.

Leah McIntosh  43:31  
Awesome. That was great. It's nice. Because I think, you know, some people struggle with billing, like they need to know is still that control aspect. And that's a trauma response really. So learning the beauty of letting go is really important. So right, how can our listeners find you one, online and on social and all those things?

Jana Osto  44:06  
So my Instagram handle is @tuneinwithjana. And yeah, my website is tuneinwithjana.com. So you can reach out at any time I do health and wellness coaching, I really focus a lot on stress management because I believe that that is kind of what stops us from connecting to our potential what stops us from connecting to the deeper self. So that's something I love to work on and to do follow me for inspiration. And for any support that you might need along your way of growth and self discovery. I'm here for you. And if I might add to that layer is you know what you were just saying, you know, many people are scared of the unknown. But really the unknown is the space of infinite potential. The unknown is the space where you can create we can Do anything you dream of doing is in the unknown because if it was known, then there's not much to create then. So trust the unknown jump into the unknown and yeah, let it go let it be trusted journey.

Leah McIntosh  45:13  
Awesome. Well, thank you for coming on and sharing your, your story in your journey thus far. I really appreciate it. And definitely learning you know, more about the yoga practice that was insightful.

Jana Osto  45:31  
Thank you. This was lovely and I love sharing, you know, anything that could inspire people who feel stuck who feel like you know, there's no hope like, what is happening is this it, you know, this knowing that this is not trusting that voice within you. So thank you. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to share that this was lovely.

Leah McIntosh  45:52  
Thank you. Okay, guys, I will

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