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From Bankrupt to Better Living with Marcus Jones
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SPEAKER_01All right, today in the zone, I have a previous guest. He's been on an episode probably about two years ago, but a lot has come about. I'll try to keep the introduction short. He is the author of Bankrupt to Better Living Million Dollar Earner. Just saw him at an event. I could go on and on, but let's get him in here. Marcus Jones. Marcus, welcome.
SPEAKER_02Hey Keith. Thanks for having me as a guest again. And it seems like two years have gone by fast. It's like, wow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And I I was listening to the episode, I was like, well, a lot has changed, but a lot has been evergreen. Now I definitely want to talk about your book. But the first thing is what's evergreen I've seen, and I hope this doesn't go away, is that posting positive stuff on social media will always attract the right type of people. I know there's good and bad and and all sorts of stuff, but you continue to just be the positive light that most people are looking for. Or for the the ones that are looking for it, they'll find you.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. I try to, you know, with all the the net negative news going on around the world. I don't watch TV. I don't even have cable or satellite TV. So if there's something I want to know, I can just scroll Facebook or or X or Instagram and see what's going on in the world. So I try to make my profile on social media be a positive place where people know at least one post a day is going to be something that's that's going to make make them smile or make them f feel good.
SPEAKER_01Okay, yeah. So let's talk about that. You said one post a day. Is that kind of like your go-to um efficiency or um go-to schedule?
SPEAKER_02It's yes, it's one. I mean, now I'm since I have a lot more free time now. Two years ago, I had to really, really be focused on my time because of no the job. But now I have a lot more free time. But I like to start the start today with with some good good news. It could be a a scripture or a motivational quote or something funny, just to make people smile, you know, just just just just to start the day. That's that's one post, one type of post I'll do. I have other posts I'll post throughout the day, but at least one one of them is gonna be something that that makes people feel good.
SPEAKER_01Cool. Well, yeah. So yeah, before you were still working full-time, now you're uh both earning full-time, but now you're full-time, full-time. How did you fit that into your schedule? Because a lot of times people are working more than eight hours a day. You got to add uh commute and after hours works and all the other stuff. And some people, yeah, they're working a lot. How are you able? How were you able, I should say, to fit that in?
SPEAKER_02So before, you know, before the pandemic, I was commuting 28 miles from my office, from my house in in Arizona, and I would drive from the suburbs of Phoenix to downtown Phoenix. And I did that for years. And um, and at that time, I had to really, really be um be mindful of my time. So I had a schedule on my phone. I I used my spark, my smart, my smartphone, I would would type my schedule out for what I need to do. During the pandemic, they sent everyone home and I picked up and moved to a different state. I had to take a whiteboard out and and and account for my day to do my job. But in between doing work, I would still do do some business stuff, you know, my text or do a Facebook Live or email the team. So I had to make sure I blocked out time, you know, I blocked out my time for what I was doing from when I started work until I got off work. And then once I'm once I'm once I was off work, that was my was my time.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, and everybody has free time throughout their work day. Well, let's be honest. But some people are scrolling. Instead of scrolling, why don't you create?
SPEAKER_02Yes. Yeah. And I had a lot since like since once they sent us home, that was perfect for me because that saved what two hours of my day from being on the road. So I I got those two hours back, and I'm I made sure I always stayed on on top of my on top of my job. And I'm I managed employees. And so I I wasn't a frontline employee taking phone calls and you know doing all the hard work. I was basically there just to make sure the team was doing their job. And whenever I did receive a call, I made sure, made sure I was there. So it was a little easier for me to put more time into the business and do some other things, and probably the average average person that's working hard during the during the day.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. You made it work, and everybody figures out a make a way to make it work uh if if they want. And I remember we were just at an event, and it's in most people's social media is like, you know, join my team, buy my stuff, you know, and just just setting yourself out differently to create positivity, but at the same time, but that that brings a point. Okay, if you're not posting about your business, how do people find out about your business? Are you more um, I guess, you know, creating a relationship and then asking questions? Are you kind of dripping in a little bit of your business? Like what is kind of your go-to? Because there's so many different ways to do it.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, as we know, there's a thousand thousand ways to to build to build the business. You know, you can wear t-shirts like this, yeah. People see t-shirts and buttons. And when I'm on when I'm posting on on on primarily fake Facebook, that's where most people are, and I'm posting positive content, recipes, exercise tips, some funny stuff. I try to stay away from religion and politics and sharing my opinion on things, but I try to just post things like, and and if there are people that engage my content and they look like somebody that that either that has a problem that need to be solved, I'll I'll comment, reply to them on Facebook directly, but then I'll take a lot of the the conversation is via pro privately, just via mess via messenger, just thank thanking them for liking my posts or for commenting and just asking them how how their day is, just trying to build that relationship, build that rapport.
SPEAKER_01Simple. Every single person can do that. Yeah. Uh and I get it where it's different than it is in person, but at the same time, we're still people, people still want to feel heard, people still love listeners, not talkers. So I love it.
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SPEAKER_02And in between, I'll I'll I'll drip and having those relationships. In between, probably I have a rate, a ratio. I look, I post maybe eight out of eight out of ten posts are non-business posts, and then maybe one or two posts are either about the prop products, how they're working for me, or someone else's story, or about the business, especially now where you know gasoline's costing more, houses costing more, and and and incomes aren't going up. And so I'll post maybe once one out of ten posts is about that. And and the right person that responds to it, you know, maybe sometimes they're the right one that wants that wants to join join the team.
SPEAKER_01Cool. Yeah, that's great. Create those relationships, and uh that's that's life. I mean, it doesn't matter what business you're in or what product you represent. It's all about who you know. If you don't know anybody, they're not gonna rip recommend you or do anything else. Well, yeah, we were at the uh event, I guess it was probably about two weeks by the time as we're recording the episode, of course. Yeah, and uh had a great time. Uh obviously, Vegas, as I mentioned, is one of my daughter's uh new favorite cities, one of the top, and of course, New Orleans, the Orleans theme, and everything else like that. And what I noticed at your your event, I know obviously you're you're helping uh Will out and everything else, is that the people there it was amazing because they're there for two days on a weekday, I imagine 90% of the people had to travel at least some distance, right? Some people look 90% were I mean, these were serious commitments and which is great. But at the same time, there's other people that okay, they're not there yet, and they have to learn a little bit on Zoom. But for the people that that come to the events, like how do you guys make sure that you bring the content because that's that's a big responsibility. Are you guys uh doing more? I I remember before you guys were doing like some interactivity or you know, live prospecting, like what are some of the things that make people go, I want to spend money, I want to spend my hard-earned time to go to this to to go to events.
SPEAKER_02Yes, uh gosh, like co coach will. We call we call where he's coach will to me, you know him as Will, but we're he's Coach Will, and he or he puts these these events together. And so he does all the planning. He he but when it comes down to the the teaching part, him, him and I and we'll we'll meet and and we'll discuss, okay, who's gonna teach what. And sometimes we have uh other trainers on the team that want to teach, but we we we try to add add more value in person than what we give online with our our training throughout the week, because we have Zoom trainings one, two, three, three nights, three days a week. Three days a week that we on Zoom, we train on Zoom, and we try to keep it consistent, but there are some of the some of the the intricate details and some things that people just can't get on Zoom, they have to get it in person. And so we let we in all we let the team members know that you know if you want to get more of the the the ninja tips and even have those those um in-person discussions that you don't have on Zoom, that's where we we have about value for our in in-person, in-person events. But this Las Vegas one, and I I live here, so I didn't I had to travel. It was an eight-minute drive. So it was an eight-minute drive for me, but but people they flew in from Virginia and Florida, all over the place, um, Toronto, somebody flew in from there. Um, but we made sure we we we record the event, we do it via Facebook Live, a Facebook group, but then we'll stop the recording. And there are some set segments where the on-per the in the online attendees don't get the same content as the in-person in-person attendees, which is which is fair because we want to deliver value to both, but someone spent you know a thousand dollars or two thousand dollars of travel, we want to make sure it is worth their time and also one to put them in the position to make their my their money back.
SPEAKER_01Well, absolutely, and especially when you uh you know they call it more skin in the game, or uh there's a bit of financial commitment. You tend to be there, you tend to be like present. Yeah, and I mean the the meetings after the meetings, of course, you know, my time schedule is a little bit uh limited on this trip, but uh normally it's it's the hanging out, it's the having fun, it's it's all those those cool things. And I realize that you there's some skills that don't go over Zoom, like some skills you just have to be in person face to face, uh rehearsing or you know, role-playing, things like that, that just makes a big difference. So, like I did you guys do a lot of uh like live prospecting, role playing? What were some were some of the uh the nuggets that other people could use?
SPEAKER_02We I know from your class, you you taught we did a a lot of role playing during your your class, which was great. And and the the members who who were there and went through the the role playing, they took detailed notes, and even after you left, they were practicing. Oh, cool. Practicing with me being the the prop prospect and them being the the consultant. Okay, and so and I I did some, but it was mainly mainly mainly for those that don't have experience or maybe don't feel comfortable having that in-person discussion with people. It's because on Facebook or social media, it's easier because you can just type a message out. But when you're face to face with somebody with someone, you know, you have to make sure you have the right tone, the eye contact, you're listening more, and know, and so you know how to respond. So that was fun. So we did a lot of role role playing during your class, and then even when you left, we did a lot, a lot of that. And so team members got a chance to, and some of them even practiced while they were when we didn't have our our our training going on, they were on the strip recruiting people. It was amazing. It was the the Lyft driver that was driving people around, the uh Uber driver. So they were doing what what we practiced that day in real life, and it was great to to hear to hear there were hear the successes they were having. It was great.
SPEAKER_01Cool. Yeah, it's uh and uh you my my thing is always like something's better than nothing, but if we teach the right skills, great conversations, uh, we're good to go. And I'm so happy that people are able to use it right away.
SPEAKER_02It was all oh, and it was one thing one coach Will taught he shared 10 tips for people to win at the slot machine. So I'm not I'm not advocating gambling, you know, but he had 10 rules. It was 10 rules. The people who follow those rules, they won over 20, 20,000, $20,000 in like two or three, three days combined as a group.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Following those those specific tips.
SPEAKER_01I know, because like uh gambling or any sort of risk taking is so emotional. Yeah, uh, you have to tone in your emotions and do the right things and you know walk away. Yeah, uh I was taking notes too. I I didn't gamble on the last couple trips, but uh you know it's kind of neat to see like how things work and you know they yeah, they they tap in your subconscious mind, I tell you that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yes.
SPEAKER_01Uh well it's great to hear all the successes, obviously, in your team. Uh and then of course now you're full time and everything else like that, and you got the new book coming out. I did order the book, but everything on Amazon is completely backed up because we had ice here uh a couple days, so everything's just backed up. So it took you know four days instead of overnight normally for Amazon. So I got your book coming in, and uh kind of give us a little preview. I didn't wasn't able to really skim through it because just a little bit online from bankrupt to better living. I had no idea that you were when when was bankruptcy?
SPEAKER_02Bankruptcy, gosh. I've actually in life I've been bankrupt twice. So the first one I was 28 years old. So that one, I don't really count that that one, I was you know, young, just yeah, irresponsible. But the second one, married, had a young daughter, and just wasn't making smart financial decisions. I I and I just I ventured into the online business space. I I did I had an an eBay store, and so I was doing well. I was doing well, I was buying products wholesale and putting them on eBay, and I was selling them, but the thing I wasn't doing, I wasn't paying the credit card off. Yeah, that happened. And and back in that back then, the credit card rates were like zero zero percent, zero percent APR. Okay, and so you know it's floated for a year, yeah. Floated for a few years, but then when the when that fine then when that financial last happened in 2008, and think I mean I was I was a day late, they jacked the interest rate up on one one credit card from zero percent to twenty eight percent. That was one, and so then I had then uh then the second one I was late on, they did the same thing. And so event or eventually the credit card debt was was only took twenty-five thousand dollars, which I was paying it for a while, paying two thousand dollars a month. It was crazy, three thousand dollars a month, and that at then it got to a point where I just couldn't pay it anymore, so I stopped. And uh the the credit card companies, they served me and my wife with a law lawsuit. And so that that was when uh we decided, you know what, let's let's go and get some help. So filed bank bankruptcy in uh 2009. That's when that that that happened. We did chapter 13 bankruptcy for 2009, and and with that, you're you're under that protection for five years. It's a five-year program. So we went through that, but during that time frame, no access to credit. I was okay. I had some success with my prior network marketing company then, but I got I didn't really like the way the company was doing us, so I I quit and I was focused on my job, but still um lit live living off cash, no credit cards, none of that for five years. And then so during that time, that's when I learned how to properly manage money because I wasn't taught taught that.
SPEAKER_01And so well, yeah, and a lot of people aren't, and it's not taught in schools, it's not saying anything bad about schools or curriculums or any of that stuff. It just it's just not it's not taught. So that's crazy. I mean, but okay, so you so you learned how to you know manage money or budget, however it is. Yeah, keep going. My bad, I got excited.
SPEAKER_02It's okay. It was just like I said, we went through that process, you know, shopping at you know, at the the discount stores, groceries. It was it would things were tight. And so, but I remember we went from having a net negative, we would be in the red at first with as far as our our budget at the end of the month. I remember the first time we had $20 left over in the envelope. We did the envelope system, we were excited. We were excited, and then we just kept building building and building and building. Then by the time the bankruptcy was was concluded and was discharged, we had me, myself, I learned a whole lot as far as like saving, investing, just being smarter with the money. And so when I got back involved in network marketing again, I made smarter decisions with the commissions as opposed to before where I'm trying to look like I'm doing well in life when I was living paycheck to paycheck just like everybody else.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I mean, we get all caught up, and now social media's got to make it even worse to be like, well, this person has this, and it catches it catches everybody, every personality. But it's it's great that you're able to turn it around and go, you know what, that's in the past. And I can now like, I mean, yeah, you you went from $20 in an envelope to a million dollar earner to I mean, just who knows.
SPEAKER_02So is this something that you uh you shared in the book, like kind of like your story of where you were, or yeah, so I started from where where we were, from how life was kind of before we were doing well, then when we went bank bankrupt, and then it just walked walk people through through the through the steps it took me to to get to where I am now. And so, you know, how you know I was working when I was writing the book, I was still working. And I happened to finish the book, you know, right after they my last employer eliminated my my my position. So I just simply walk people through. There's I think 12 chapters. It's not a big book, it's it's 57 pages long, so we probably can read that in a day. But just walk people through through through my life and through the process process I took and just trying to get people who are feeling stuck financially, just sharing the keys with them, you know, with the vehicle I chose, like network marketing worked for me. I think it's I think it's the greatest profession on the planet because it it it levels the playing field. And so just walking people through through my my journey from from going bankrupt to live living the bet better life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, no, that's great because most people don't share their struggles, especially yeah. I mean, this is industry wide. Top industry team leaders sometimes don't so you know they you know it's in the past or they got over it, or they don't want to feel um timid, or you know, it's just how it is. That's that's really cool that that you've done it. And I mean you've changed everything, you've changed your health. I don't I remember us talking about that, and you're still looking good, so that's still a good good habit that you you've added. Now, when you were uh bankrupt at the time, was that that was well before you? Lost the weight, right?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I was bankrupt. So it started the bankruptcy started in 2009. And 2011 was when I went from I decided to get healthy. My dad died from a heart attack. I was 2997 pounds in what May 2011. And so from May through 2011 through December of 2012, I lost 80 pounds. And so got in shape. And so not, and that was when people on social media started started calling me Coach Marcus because I was always sharing workout tips, fitness tips, money tips, because I learned my lesson about my money. So if I learn something, I'm going to teach this to the people that that I know. So that was happened about two years after I filed for bank bankruptcy as far as the way weight loss on. And I've been thankful for the most part to maintain good good health and uh and stay and not be on any medications and be at a hell health healthy weight for me. Wow.
SPEAKER_01I mean that's a lot of change. You have to change financially. Well, you didn't really have a choice. Uh the the scare of someone that you know, or especially someone they're related to you, I'd imagine. Now, how did you create that habit? Because you know not only you have to create a new financial habit because you're going all cash, now you got to create a new workout habit. Is it something you like checked off, or you just kind of knew you had to do it early? Or like what was what was your go-to?
SPEAKER_02I just knew back when I was when my my dad died, I was I was going to the gym five days a week. I was work actually working out. But when I would leave home and go to work, and in in office, there's always people bringing in food from parties, there's birthdays, there's been vendors bringing in cookies and bagels. And so I wouldn't bring lunch to work. I would just snack and eat eat and eat all the junk food during the day at work. And after my dad died, my wife had a conversation with me. And so she's like, hey, so I see you going to the gym every day, but you I know you want to lose weight, but your your stomach is not getting smaller. What's what's going on? Because we don't have any junk food in the house. So I had to confess to my I had to confess to my wife what I was doing outside the house. So that was that was that was uh the end of April 2011. We had that conversation. And she's like, well, the rate you're going, your dad just died, and we want you to be here for both for both her and for my daughter, who was only eight, eight years old at that time. And so that that was the the trigger for me to really, really, you know, be be more responsible as far as eating. The gym part, that wasn't hard for me. It was being just eating right because I like cookies and cake, candy. I was eating, eating all that type of stuff at work. And so that once I cut that out, I lost 60 pounds from May through uh from May to begin beginning of May. I went from 2997 to around 230. Wow. And uh from beginning of May through the the December of that same year, so about six six or seven months. I just maintained that lifestyle.
SPEAKER_01That's great. I love it. It's one of the things you just have to do it. And I think uh as in business or um, you know, we're getting out of bankruptcy, or some people they're not out of bankruptcy, but they're yeah, it's paycheck to paycheck, or it's uh stress about making minimum payments, like uh they do something. And yeah, uh, because they have to. They don't have a they don't have a choice. Yeah, uh, not laughing about it, but it's just it's crazy how sometimes we wait until we have to do something. We're not as proactive, um, which is good. But everyone here is proactive because they're listening. They're want to they want to improve their business, they want to improve their life, they want to improve. I'd imagine the mindset. Now, how did you create this mindset? Because so many people, something happens, okay. I'm the victim. Oh, that's because I have uh you know bad genetics, has nothing to do with what I ate, or you know, it's because I wasn't taught finance. I'll never learn finance instead of you know, I'll I'll read something, I'll watch some YouTube videos on finance, I'll do the uh Ramsey envelope, or you know, whatever. Like uh how did that come about? Is it have you always had that, or it was just that desperation that I had to do something?
SPEAKER_02I think growing up, my my parents, they never they never allow allow me to make excuses for anything. Either you did it or you didn't. And I think for me, and I grew up going to speech therapy because I I stutter sometimes. Okay. And so, but when I was a kid, it was hard for me to pronounce my name. And and so, um, and I remember my first grade school teacher told me, hey, Marcus, you need you need to get a job working with your hands because you won't speak fluently enough to have a job that requires you to talk to people for a career. And so I never listened to that, but my parents never allowed me to use the challenges I had with speech to not do anything. And so I think that right there helped me. And also I played sports, you know, from childhood in I played foot football in high high school, and and I had a scholarship in foot football also. I think that the discipline from sports really helped me have that mindset to you know set a goal and then also make the plans to achieve the goal and stick to it. And that thing, I think that's what really helped help me, along with the books and videos on YouTube and the different books I've read.
SPEAKER_01No, that's great. I'm glad you brought the sports analogy and football or really any sport. Uh, there's no excuses don't quite work. You either did the job of uh your position or you didn't. You either scored the goal or you did it. I'm glad you brought that up. I'm gonna use that. I'm gonna filter that in sometime. All right, so yeah, I like how the book uh my check, it'll arrive tomorrow for me on Friday. So I look forward to that. I like how it's a quick, easy read. That's what I like as well. And obviously, you're a really good storyteller. So I can tell it's gonna be a good one. I'll definitely put a link uh to the book and everything. Um, but uh I know your time is valuable, and I definitely want to uh have you build your business as well today. But before I let you go, I got three more bonus questions. It's the lightning round. Uh Marcus, are you ready? Yes. This could be a weird one. Uh, nothing with my last name, nothing with your last name. What it's like one book, or it could be an audio. Do you think uh everybody should read or listen to? It doesn't have to be a business book, it could just be any book that people will, you know, get value from.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, outside of of the the Bible, I read the Bible every day. That's that is like my foundation. But one of one of my favorite books I'm currently reading my reading right now is the the the the greatest salesman in the world by by Alg Mandino. Yeah, I remember you you brought that to the event. Yes, I brought it, and and initially I had the book for years and I read it, I read through it the first time I got it, but I didn't read it correctly. And so now a group of us on our team, we're reading it the way it's supposed to be read, where you read you read these the first few chapters you read, and then there's scrolls. And you read one scroll for a month, but you do it three times a day, three times a day. So you you read it quietly for the first two readings, and then the third reading in the evening time, you read it so you hear your voice speak speaking those words. And so now I think we're up to scroll five so far, and there are 12 scrolls. That that books that book is good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and it's weird because uh it's the word salesman, and a lot of times for some people, and that's just the stereotype that people have, is that uh sales is kind of a negative. Well, as we know, that's actually a positive. It's like we're helping people solve problems, we're finding solutions, uh, we're doing the thing, but it's not just for people in sales. Like I was reading uh Matthew McConaughey's book, who's a famous actor, and that's one of the books that changed his life. He was in college, and he's like, I'm gonna check this out. He's like, This is really good stuff. So I mean, it can change your life, not just your financial life. It's a it's I'm gonna whip that back out.
SPEAKER_02It's good. It's really about my mindset in this in this business here. The skills are are easy to acquire. The mindset part is where a lot a lot of people struggle with because we we've all grown up with something. We all have had some traumatic event or something in life that impacts us. Like for me, I stutter sometimes. So sometimes I've I get anxious and I want to make sure I want to speak f fluently and clearly, right? And so, but and but some people in my situation, maybe their mind that they that other mind they may have the mindset that will hold them back from not wanting to speak or or go after things. So that's what I'm I'm getting from that book is really about your have having the right my mindset to expect to succeed in this bit in the business and in life.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. That's that's so cool. And yeah, I'm the same way. As much as I love teaching skills within the mindset, they're not gonna do it. They're just they're well scholared and totally unmotivated.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh wow, yeah. Appreciate uh you bringing that back up. I kind of forgot that you brought the book to the event, and then now I remember. Uh, but here's here's question number two. Uh, what is your dream location to host an event or to teach at an event? You know, where where would you like to do an event?
SPEAKER_02All right, my my dream location. Don't know if if we'll we'll do do this, and it would be probably Greece. I've never been to Greece. And so in somewhere in the Mediterranean, you know, area, Turkey or Greece would be would be the my the greatest place. Like going to San Santorini, seeing the white building with the blue rules and the ocean. That would be my my dream, my my dream destination to go on vacation, also train. That'd be great.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. I mean, there's you name it. You can even do a Greek island cruise. I've done that, and you can see it all. Or you could go to one and you could spend a whole week in just one island. Like it's just definite a good mindset shift there. It's pretty cool. Uh awesome. And question number three, uh, most important one is hey, what's for dinner?
SPEAKER_02Dinner tonight is probably going to be a a harvest salad. Okay. I'm not fancy. We have a meal prep place where we buy like a few meals uh during the week. And so I'll I'll eat one of those meals a day. I buy six meals during the week from the place. And they have this uh fall harvest salad. That's one of my favorite salads. There's um grilled chicken, there's pomegranate seeds in it, there's uh uh grilled, I think there's uh quinoa is in it. Okay, green apples and some cheese. It's great. All right. That's that's my then that that helps me, you know, so I can maintain you know my current weight.
SPEAKER_01That's cool, yeah. Meal prep whether you're uh you have to outsource or do it yourself, and uh yeah, it makes it makes the decisions easier. We don't have to make less the less decisions I have to make, especially in the morning, like I could go about my day.
SPEAKER_02It's just yeah, it's just easier. I I go to the gym in the morning at five o'clock, and and I wear the same sweatpants, the same color sweatpants every day. And so I have one one pair. I walk, they're wild, they're clean, but I don't like having a bunch of different uh sweatpants to choose from. I'll change my shirt, but just keeps it simpler, so I don't have to make that decision either at five o'clock in the morning or at nine, nine o'clock at night when I'm put putting my gym gym clothes out.
SPEAKER_01I do the same thing. I wear like the same stuff, and wife was always messing with me. I was like, Well, Einstein did it. And she's like, Are you comparing yourself to Einstein? I was like, No, I'm taking advice from people that are smarter than me. So there you go. Yeah. I think Zuckerberg does the same thing, and whether you like him or don't, he's successful. Yeah. Oh my goodness. That's great. It was so much fun. Uh, I will definitely have you back on the next episode because I gotta read the book and check it all out. But I appreciate all the success tips. Every single person could implement something from this episode, which I absolutely love, and I appreciate everything. And of course, your time today, Marcus.
SPEAKER_02All right, Keith. I appreciate you having me as a guest and looking forward to your feedback on the book. This is my copy. I can't see them. This is my copy here. So hopefully you enjoy it. And I took a page out of you and your dad's book because I know your books aren't real big. And you know, I'm I I'm not that smart, I'm smart, but that was that's this is some work to write even a 114-page book.
SPEAKER_01So yeah, it's a little bit long for us, but I was like, oh, you know, that way people can read half and and still get plenty of value.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, so I I can't I kept it short, so not a big book.
SPEAKER_01Sounds good. And uh and I'll bring it to the next event that I speak at for y'all, and I'll definitely uh get you to sign it. That sounds good. All right, man. Have a great one. Okay. Thanks.
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