Blayne Macauley: 0:01

Justin. Hi, welcome to the Penny Lane podcast. This is a podcast about investing tricky. So glad to have you on.

Justin: 0:11

Thank you for having me. It's a real honor.

Blayne Macauley: 0:14

Yeah, spelling you know what to do for a while. Question. bucketlist What happened to your face?

Justin: 0:22

Oh, I have a beard.

Blayne Macauley: 0:25

In here,

Justin: 0:27

it's for my Halloween costume. I don't want to give it away. Should I give it away?

Blayne Macauley: 0:31

Well, are you going to reveal it live on the podcast?

Justin: 0:34

No. You know, are you? I don't think so. So I guess I won't see you. So I should just tell you.

Blayne Macauley: 0:41

Yeah, let's go ahead and hear it. Alright,

Justin: 0:44

so I want to be Bob Ross. Okay, so I need to I need to get a little white in the beard growing out and then I'm going to get the Afro and Kate's gonna be an easel and I'm just gonna paint her.

Blayne Macauley: 0:55

Perfect. Have you seen the new Bob Ross documentary?

Justin: 1:00

I need to watch it. It sounds very seedy.

Blayne Macauley: 1:04

Yeah, I haven't seen it either. And I love I love a good crime documentary. But it just kept working. You know, I learned how to trade.

Justin: 1:14

Yeah, well, I think we wanted to talk about that. No, well, like I really

Blayne Macauley: 1:17

did. Like I had my best day ever today. I've had to stay Evers. Yeah. Gradually I learned how to trade.

Justin: 1:26

Yeah, so you, will you it was like Well, it's been a longer process than one month, but the past four weeks have been very intentional.

Blayne Macauley: 1:37

Right? Yeah. Well, you know, I've been sober now. Like 10 weeks.

Justin: 1:42

Okay, so the last 10 weeks have been very intentional, very intentional.

Blayne Macauley: 1:46

And I want to give some credit to my friend AC who you know, from Benzinga ACS is here. Yeah. Hammertime spent an ungodly amount of time with me teaching me how to use Thinkorswim and everyone in MTA like has been so lovely. So thankful to Brad for starting that and then real simple Ariel really helped me out. Did you listen to that interview? It's been I haven't talked to you in six weeks,

Justin: 2:16

weeks weeks. I've had a you know, I have a day job. Like most of us and I October lots of travel lots of travel around the country back up. You were taught how to use Think or Swim by AC Texas Hammer, desktop or mobile

Blayne Macauley: 2:35

desktop.

Justin: 2:36

Oh, okay.

Blayne Macauley: 2:37

I've got all my all my monitors here I've got my new big computer I'm got multiple screens working I like a trader now.

Justin: 2:46

You've got all like the screens. You got charts on charts. You've got discord. You got the news going any CNBC or chatter.

Blayne Macauley: 2:56

So you know, I also took that week off of social media and discord, right?

Justin: 3:04

Yes. And that was so you could just focus on your trades your conviction not listen to anyone else say get in get out. This is why I think this this is my thesis you just wanted to be able to do it

Blayne Macauley: 3:18

used to be one with the charts, as they say

Justin: 3:22

that. They do say that don't die with the chart.

Blayne Macauley: 3:26

Yeah, well with the charts. And that was my best week ever at the time. Paper and it had a little bit of like reentry. What's the word? three entries been hard. And someone on the podcast? I think it may have been Ellis still enter was talking it was was was talking about confirmation bias. And I'm so bad at that. Because even if I see something myself, and I'm like, I'm confident 500 shares of this, let's say and then I see someone else who I think is good say that they're really confident or that they're taking the trade. I'm like, Oh, I'm confident like 1500 shares. And then you can get really screwed that way. So I've had to sort of take a little bit of a, I'm trying to find a balance between contributing to MTA and being an MTA while also being able to do my own thing enough that like, I want to trade trade well and then also help people. But there's some FOMO right, I have some foam up from being on the floor, or FOMO confirmation bias over trade, whatever it is I I think it's kind of similar to alcohol like my whole life. I'm like, Oh, I drink a lot but I can put up all these like boundaries around drinking to make it like Sustainable my life. And then a bit. I'm always like, Oh, it's a, it's a Wednesday, why not have a purpose or whatever I felt like, same thing happens to me on the trading floor. I'm like, Oh, I won't chase anyone's calls. And then I'm like 1500 shares in a trade. I don't know how I got there.

Justin: 5:21

This is still happening.

Blayne Macauley: 5:23

It has happened this week. So

Justin: 5:27

I feel like I'm gonna confessional.

Blayne Macauley: 5:29

It. I feel like, I can talk to you. Maybe this is too much for the podcast.

Justin: 5:36

No, well, do you, I think, hmm. It's almost like therapy. Like you got to say it out loud. And then you're like, man, it sounds worse when I say it out loud. So I won't do that again.

Blayne Macauley: 5:50

I don't feel so bad about what I don't feel so bad about what I've said. Yeah, a lot of people suffer from that.

Justin: 5:58

So I won't belabor this point. Are you ready to denounce mobile trading? Like everyone who you've ever spoken to is done for you? Not yet.

Blayne Macauley: 6:10

Yeah, I think so. Like

Justin: 6:13

you were a defender for a long time.

Blayne Macauley: 6:16

Yeah. It doesn't go well, for me. Yeah, I have like all the information I need. I can't put the stop losses in. Yeah, it doesn't

Justin: 6:25

go well. Trade that stoplights is not a good recipe.

Blayne Macauley: 6:30

But you know, I'm very good at that. Yeah, correct. Except I lost a lot of money doing that. But I'm telling you, I can use that app like nobody's business.

Justin: 6:39

So how many hours now in front of this new desktop setup with multiple monitors? Are you spending?

Blayne Macauley: 6:48

Like 10 hours a day?

Justin: 6:50

Really? Yeah. Wow.

Blayne Macauley: 6:54

Yeah, I just am kind of like, I gotta do it now. Or I gotta stop fucking around. Like, it's been 18 months. Yeah. I've lost a good deal of money doing this. I'm just sort of tired of losing money and tired of like, I'm also worried about being a joke. I think there's a lot of pressure on like, women in trading? And I'm like, No, it's it's been enough time you it's time for you to learn how to do it. And be good at it.

Justin: 7:25

Yeah. And you feel like the last few weeks has been good?

Blayne Macauley: 7:29

Yeah, yeah, I've had like a good ride been read like, three days of the last maybe 12 trading days

Justin: 7:38

was actively monitoring your p&l, because we've talked about in the past, like some people just don't like I don't even want to look at that. Right. I don't care about it. I care about

Blayne Macauley: 7:47

trades. So on Thinkorswim it'll show you your like, open profit and loss for that trade. But it trades your overall day. Yeah, profit and loss, which is really nice. Because then I'm very much like, I have to finish the trade. Which, whichever way it goes, if I enter a trade, then I like want to see it all the way through. And that can, it can hurt if you're just on your phone staring at the overall day p&l Like what I've really been able to do is to stay in trades longer. Because I'd be on my phone and I'd be up like 300 bucks. I'd be like, I gotta get out. And then today, I made a trade that was a it was a $3,000 trade book, right now.

Justin: 8:37

So drinks since you're not drinking, I get double the drinks

Blayne Macauley: 8:44

on me

Justin: 8:46

and you stayed in it multiple hours longer than you historically would have.

Blayne Macauley: 8:51

No, I probably stayed in the whole trade about 45 minutes.

Justin: 8:55

Oh, wow.

Blayne Macauley: 8:57

But I kept being like, well, the charts not telling me to leave this trade and then it just kept running and running. Well, the hot markets back so so that's on my side. You know, we've been trading in this cold market for so long. That now that the plays are working like it's not really me. It's just basically I'm just getting rewarded for making it through a very cold market. Yeah, not cold market.

Justin: 9:24

Right. Interesting. So man, I was just gonna ask you something just for

Blayne Macauley: 9:33

bow guarding

Justin: 9:37

What do you mean?

Blayne Macauley: 9:38

I feel like I'm just have so much to say I've got so much energy I also am trying to cut down on my caffeine just to not be so good wired all the time. Okay,

Justin: 9:49

so basically anything that's a vise you just are does now out of your life.

Blayne Macauley: 9:53

I will now be almost perfect person. Got it. That's

Justin: 9:57

fun. You're really you're fun to be around.

Blayne Macauley: 10:01

Not to be around.

Justin: 10:04

That's not true. So the last few weeks have been Oh, I know what I was gonna ask you. This is really gonna put you on the hot spot on on the hot seat. Sure, are you? Are you journaling?

Blayne Macauley: 10:17

Yes, I've been journaling and I've been doing watch list and charting everything that we have been hearing for six months that you're supposed to do. I'm doing I'm freaking rules. And I don't even recognize myself.

Justin: 10:32

So some people it takes like, hours on YouTube, some people it takes paper trading some people it takes reading books and rules. And for you it takes a podcast to make it all happen.

Blayne Macauley: 10:46

I would actually have to give them make it all happen credit to AC he was really hard on me.

Justin: 10:53

Wow.

Blayne Macauley: 10:54

I no really in like, I would just try to be like kind of, like girly and be like, well, you know, I don't understand how to do that. And he was like, well, that's not acceptable. And

Justin: 11:06

he's like a non with a ruler.

Blayne Macauley: 11:08

Yeah, he's really hard on me. That's all I learned how to hate.

Justin: 11:13

Yeah. So. So I don't want to be too negative before we move on. Or

Blayne Macauley: 11:21

about my sobriety? No, no, no, I'm

Justin: 11:24

not. I can't be negative. I can't be negative about that. I will vicariously live your sobriety through you and I will stay as a consumer.

Blayne Macauley: 11:35

Sure. Wait, are you doing you're sober October people are doing that. Ah, you've had stints of sobriety that Oh, do you have coming up?

Justin: 11:45

Not maybe I've actually had a cutback October Xperience, some some minor health issues. So I thought alcohol was an easy thing to kind

Blayne Macauley: 11:55

of cut out. You did? Why didn't you tell me? Why?

Justin: 11:59

I didn't just call you up and say, Hey, you want to hear some gross stuff?

Blayne Macauley: 12:03

Are you okay? Yeah, I'll be fine. Let me ask you a question. How much of it is stress related?

Justin: 12:11

I think a large majority. I

Blayne Macauley: 12:13

think so. You're very even had a lot of shit on your plate recently.

Justin: 12:17

Just yeah, the past few months. But yeah, um, yeah. What was my blood pressure? 170 over 110

Blayne Macauley: 12:24

had been there. They put me in the hospital immediately. I've

Justin: 12:27

been there. Yeah, yeah,

Blayne Macauley: 12:30

I was. Eight months pregnant. So

Justin: 12:33

Oh, that's very different. Oh, I don't think I am

Blayne Macauley: 12:37

so 171 70 over 110. How did you discover the blood pressure?

Justin: 12:44

I was already in the hospital.

Blayne Macauley: 12:47

Justin,

Justin: 12:48

I'm fine. All right.

Blayne Macauley: 12:51

Fine. Were you in the hospital?

Justin: 12:53

There's you know, HIPAA violations. I can't be disclosed in this kind

Blayne Macauley: 12:57

of stuff. Oh, just tell me. Tell me later. Sure. Yeah,

Justin: 13:00

it's pretty boring. We don't put it on the podcast. It's not that entertaining. So

Blayne Macauley: 13:04

has to be stress related. Yeah. Cutting down on your caffeine.

Justin: 13:14

Yeah, coupled with alcohol, and I think I'll just be a better person, not only physically but mentally. Alright, I want to ask you about your recent trip. Very exciting to the NASDAQ. The NASDAQ for a very special event that got you all access behind the ropes Red Velvet carpet, badge and everything. Vaginal I saw a cool picture of Andrew Ross Sorkin. big big fan big fan.

Blayne Macauley: 13:52

Here's Andrew Ross Sorkin say hi, Justin.

Justin: 13:56

Hi, Quinn sir. CNBC.

Blayne Macauley: 14:02

Oh, was that the guy was filming?

Justin: 14:05

Yes. Cool. It was inception. You were filming him while he was filming? Squawk on the street? Or? I'm sorry. skwawkbox.

Blayne Macauley: 14:14

I'm, I would love to get into this. But I wanted to ask you a question. Do you ever think that you're living in a matrix?

Justin: 14:21

Um, you know, I think if I adopted like, if I did some, we've talked about this psilocybin, LSD. stuff. I did that stuff. And then I accepted the fact that we lived in a matrix, I can assure you, my blood pressure would not be 170 over 110.

Blayne Macauley: 14:41

So step one, yeah.

Justin: 14:45

Psilocybin, who needs the medicine? They gave me just do LSD.

Blayne Macauley: 14:49

Are you on a beta blocker, or are you on a diuretic?

Justin: 14:54

I don't I haven't done that much research. It's

Blayne Macauley: 14:56

a history of heart problems. So Oh,

Justin: 15:01

You could never be conscripted into the military.

Blayne Macauley: 15:04

Right so we got palpitations, you wouldn't believe it. Good. Yeah. Also, a teaser for an upcoming episode, you know who else has heart problems is Hugh Hani? I really want to get into that with him on the podcast.

Justin: 15:19

Do you think his is also stress related? His

Blayne Macauley: 15:23

from what I've heard on Penny's going in raw, his was like in high school, and he was unable to play football. And that's how he got into trading. So he's, it was he's pretty young to be having stress related heart. I mean, that's more for me. You know, I'm always 40 I mean, you asked me since my birthday

Justin: 15:45

day, because where were you going that weekend?

Blayne Macauley: 15:50

Thank you for getting us back. I was gonna your to open the NASDAQ open it up. Yeah.

Justin: 15:56

Tell us about that experience. That's not something I don't think many of us will ever do. I don't have I will never do that.

Blayne Macauley: 16:04

We don't know that this podcast could go my bed. You know. Next year, I think so it I went with Rose Hill, and that's a SPAC and to family friend, they invited us to come up, which I was like, This is my Super Bowl, of course, which Funny enough, the Braves are actually 24 minutes ago just kicked off the first game of this or World Series, Super Bowl, whatever. So like go NASDAQ is my Super Bowl. So my mom and I went up on my birthday, which was October 14. We stayed at the Carlyle, which, if you guys don't know what that is, there's a very, very cool movie about it like a documentary. It's a super super cool Hotel in New York. Got a little Italian. I don't know if you've been to New York since the pandemic, but you can eat on the street, everywhere, which is awesome. Because you get to really experience the city.

Justin: 17:11

Do you mean just like a hotdog cart?

Blayne Macauley: 17:14

No, no, like all the restaurants have seating outside?

Justin: 17:18

Oh, got it. Yeah, cuz you could always walk around with a hot dog just so you know.

Blayne Macauley: 17:25

For sure street neat. Street. Yes, street. Um, and then we went to we were going to the NASDAQ and we were supposed to be there. So I'm gonna confess to you that I didn't fully realize that the NASDAQ building was different than the New York Stock Exchange.

Justin: 17:49

I don't think a lot of people know that. I don't think that that's something to be because everything now is you it's it's all digital. It's online. You're trading through your phone. You're I mean, all the brokers are digital. The floor doesn't mean obviously what it did like even the early 2000s Right, so it's not I don't think a lot of people know that especially retail traders. So I don't feel like that's anything to be ashamed of. People should probably now go look it up and see where the NASDAQ is the New York Stock Exchange that they're on completely different sides of the city.

Blayne Macauley: 18:28

Well, and we almost got really screwed on that.

Justin: 18:32

You start going to Wall Street.

Blayne Macauley: 18:34

Well, my mom kept saying it's in Times Square. And I was like, No, is it like it's not there and then she was like playing we're gonna be in the middle of Times Square and I think that you like might be mistaken on this. Bye but turns out she wasn't no, no at Times Square. So on. She all the morning. We were supposed to be there at eight. And we got at the Carlyle is very close to Times Square. So the all of the figuring out where it was was luckily done prior to going it but we only found out 48 hours before the bell ringing ceremony that it was happening. So within 48 hours, had to like change all my kids stuff. Get a hotel. My mom broke her foot the night before. We're on a plane headed headed to New York and Jimmy luckily found us the hotel and figured out where everything was. You know he loves that. So, but so the morning of we're supposed to be there at eight. We got up at five. I mean, it was like Santa, it was like the biggest Christmas morning and then my mom made me call the concierge to see what time we should leave the hotel to get To NASDAQ, of course, I'm on my phone. I'm like Mom, Uber says 10 minutes and she's like, call the concierge Call. Call the concierge. And I'm like, Sir, we're going to the opening bell on NASDAQ. Like, what time do you think we should leave? And he was like, Oh, now, like, you'll never make it up? Oh, no. But he thought we were going to the stock exchange. No idea. Ah, Mom, I we have to just trust the Uber app. Right? We can get there. Anyway, we were the first people they're

Justin: 20:35

not it's not a bad thing.

Blayne Macauley: 20:36

Not a bad thing. We went in, it felt like a movie. Maybe a TV studio. It did not. There was no one running around selling stuff. Any of the things that I thought might happen like it just felt like a big television studio. There was a nice coffee bar there. We got our picture taken. I went over to get a cup of coffee. And they have these coffee mugs that say NASDAQ on them and like a very retro script, like Miami. Yes, yeah. Yeah. So I look at the barista, and I'm like, what does one have to do to get one of these coffee cups? And he was like, Oh, we don't sell them. And I'm like, I understand you don't sell them. But hey, I would really like one home with me. Right?

Justin: 21:28

I wasn't asking where you sell them.

Blayne Macauley: 21:33

Go to Atlanta, but I didn't feel like I could steal anything. Yeah. lest we be kicked the nest.

Justin: 21:42

crier to ringing the opening bell. Got it. Yeah, that's a good play.

Blayne Macauley: 21:47

Yeah. So I thought he might give me one. But then I put him in a situation where he had to ask his boss if the crazy blonde girl could steal the mug and I got turned down. So I don't have one of these mugs. So if you're looking for a Christmas present for me, yeah.

Justin: 22:04

travel up to New York, hit the NASDAQ steel mug. Get out alive, returned to the southeast.

Blayne Macauley: 22:12

And that's all that's all there is. simples. So had our coffee did a little schmoozing. I tried to get us some guests for the podcast. And then it was time to just mosey on in to the bell ringing. We heard a couple of speeches. And then everyone who was there, you're only allowed to have 75 people to the ceremony. And all there were probably about 40 people there. And we all got up on stage. So we were like live on CNBC. Do you have a recording of it? No, I was there. I couldn't be recording on my phone. Um, but Jim Cramer, like, was on the TV and he cut to the opening bell and there I was. And I see myself on the TV.

Justin: 23:04

Was this the 15th? Yes. NASDAQ opening bell October 15. You haven't even Googled this? Well, it's it's here.

Blayne Macauley: 23:18

I'm wearing a blue dress and standing behind my mom who's all in white. She's the only person in real time photo.

Justin: 23:25

So I was in a car in the middle of Florida. And I was trying to watch it not safe. So I didn't. I have not Googled this yet. I'm watching this in real time. NASDAQ October 15. This is not that's a Chinese company. That's not you

Blayne Macauley: 23:45

know,

Justin: 23:47

are you sure was the 15th?

Blayne Macauley: 23:49

Yeah. Was it the 16th It was the 15th. Friday. Yeah.

Justin: 23:57

NASDAQ open. Oh, that's 2020

Blayne Macauley: 24:01

the tickers are Oh, s on you. Oh, it's

Justin: 24:05

right here. Yeah. Rosehill. I can see you in a blue shirt and a blue dress.

Blayne Macauley: 24:09

blue dress. You see? I do. You can't? You can't miss.

Justin: 24:17

Ah, yeah, no, it's right here. You need to send this to everybody or link this in the bottom of every single episode.

Blayne Macauley: 24:25

I'm not kidding. I have a ton of photos. And I also on my phone recorded the sound of the bell which I was hoping Joel could like cut into I guess this episode. I guess it's the episode where we're talking about it. So, Joel well cue the bell.

Justin: 24:45

Every time I call you can that be the ringtone?

Blayne Macauley: 24:49

Sure. Just visualize us ringing the bell. I didn't get to touch the bell. No,

Justin: 24:58

no, I I wonder what those buttons are actually like. So I have obviously never been inside of the NASDAQ. I have been on one trading floor before. It's a commodities floor in Philadelphia or Chicago, Philadelphia,

Blayne Macauley: 25:16

and memorable story we're hearing.

Justin: 25:19

No, well, I was really cool because this was it like what you see on TV, this was a basement. Right? And they like these guys are still a while woman's that 2011 Something like that. They're still running around with tickets at that point, right? Like it's it's a commodities floor, there's a lot less volume. They're trading in lots, you know, here's 1000 Pigs, here's 18 million soybeans, right? It's it's still I mean, it was, it's somewhat rudimentary. It's kind of like, there's paper all over the ground. These guys have their sleeves all rolled up, like it's a real tree. Right. And obviously, historically, that's what you would have seen in the New York Stock Exchange. Now, it's just all computer screens, right? Like what you see behind Jim Jim Cramer? Right. That's what you see. You're saying that the NASDAQ there's nothing it's just essentially TV set? Because NASDAQ is is is a tech technology based exchange. Right. So there's really no floor traders,

Blayne Macauley: 26:16

right? No floor traders. It looked very much like if you're outside of the Today Show looking in. Yeah. Like that's what the whole

Justin: 26:26

sadly enough. I've been there done that.

Blayne Macauley: 26:30

I have it but didn't use my mind for did you go with your wife? That sounds like something she might like to do?

Justin: 26:40

She wouldn't know mother. Long time ago, I was a kid. So once in a lifetime experience at the NASDAQ.

Blayne Macauley: 26:47

Yeah. 10 out of 10. Oh, it was incredible. It was like you're recently married. You know how, during your wedding weekend, there's a lot of pressure to like, you know how important it is. So you're like, I need to like, be here and be present and soak this up. And like, or at least I did that I tried to take little moments for myself to like, remember what was going on. And the this opening bell thing is the only other thing in my life. I mean, maybe having the babies but like that I was, it was so clear to me how, what a huge deal. It was. Yeah. Yeah, that

Justin: 27:40

is that's so cool. That's really really awesome. Yeah, very jealous. Did you? Did you learn anything? Besides the fact that the stock exchanges are different and not in the same place? Did you learn anything big by being there?

Blayne Macauley: 27:55

I learned you. They don't sell NASDAQ mugs. That's true.

Justin: 28:00

Yeah. Well, alright, last thing. Did you get Andrew Ross Sorkin to commit to coming on the podcast?

Blayne Macauley: 28:08

I slipped him a note. Good. A little check. Yes or no action? God, he's

Justin: 28:13

so smart. real smart guy.

Blayne Macauley: 28:17

We also after the bell ringing ceremony went out on to the time square like this huge walled off area in Times Square to take photos in front of the NASDAQ building. That was really cool.

Justin: 28:32

Yeah. That's awesome. What a treat, hopefully again, but most likely not. So.

Blayne Macauley: 28:41

Well, good for you. Thanks. Thanks. I mean, thanks to my mom for making that happen. It was very nice of her.

Justin: 28:51

Yeah. That's awesome. So between now and the end of the year is like eight trading weeks left. What's up, guys? Genda. What's on the agenda for you?

Blayne Macauley: 29:02

Well, you know, I'm still so read from my overall trading career. And I know this is not this the smart thing to do, but I've never kept track of how much I've made or loss trading. Because I was like, this numbers gonna get the loss categories going to get so big that I'm going to leave. Yeah. So I have no handle on exactly how much I lost. But I would like to start being a lot more responsible about that. And like keeping really good tabs on exactly what I'm what I'm doing. And just hope to start to like slowly climb out of this hole.

Justin: 29:46

So can you start from like October 1 from the last 25 days and say this is where the p&l begins?

Blayne Macauley: 29:53

Sure, I mean, there's a lie but no, but

Justin: 29:56

it's like a balance sheet. This is just a snapshot in time. We're just Same Day Zero was October 1.

Blayne Macauley: 30:04

Well, then I think that I would be pretty green. So maybe

Justin: 30:08

better. Does that feel? It feels good? We're not GAAP reporting here. There's no, there's no accounting guidelines to follow, let's just say October 1 and stick with it.

Blayne Macauley: 30:18

Sure, sure. I'm sure when I get my like packet of shit from TD Ameritrade at the end of this year, it'll be a different picture. But that's

Justin: 30:25

what accountants are for. So but you use that now you have all this momentum going into the end of the year? Because from October 1 on in the green,

Blayne Macauley: 30:36

and the green? Yeah. Yeah. You know, all that all those things. They say, like, market tuition, the market size, easy, you can't you'll be humbled. Like, there's all these kind of cliche sayings about trading, that somehow I just thought didn't apply to me.

Justin: 30:56

All of them do. Every single one.

Blayne Macauley: 31:00

Yeah. I've had some people in my personal life reach out, like, I'm gonna, I might get into trading. And I was like, let me tell you some cool large one, you're gonna lose a lot of money. You have to you have to freaking love it to get up every and get your ashes handed to you for a long time. And it's just so like, the market tuition thing was totally right. I probably paid tuition for like, one semester of a college. Not a super nice college, but a college.

Justin: 31:38

Yeah. Where they have investment courses and classes. Yeah.

Blayne Macauley: 31:44

So, guys, it's just not for everyone. And I was just so naive getting into it. Like, I just think back to the first couple texts that I sent you, like, gotta open a Robin Hood. Dollars and workhorse like,

Justin: 32:03

Do you got to start somewhere, but you do have to stick with it? Or?

Blayne Macauley: 32:08

I mean, it's all for nothing. Yeah. Or

Justin: 32:11

put that money back in the, in the self driven money management that you have with fidelity or whoever. Right. Right. And then drive that boat.

Blayne Macauley: 32:24

Just so you don't think like it's all coming up roses for me? Yeah, I did get kicked out of my gallery today. My art gallery

Justin: 32:34

for not contributing enough paintings.

Blayne Macauley: 32:37

I just was I just hadn't been as focused on it as I was. So there's a

Justin: 32:45

that's a win some you lose some deal. Rice. Yeah. But you also had your most profitable trading day. That's

Blayne Macauley: 32:55

I mean, matrix random matrix,

Justin: 32:58

right. Like that's just laying it out there. Like, it doesn't really get much. It's there's no gray area or ambiguity there. It's like, Yeah, this is what you get for doing what you did.

Blayne Macauley: 33:11

Yeah. But, you know, my paintings are like,$3,000 apiece. Yeah. So so it's not like, oh, forget, like, you know, it's not like so much money that I'm like, Well, I made it nothing giving up my art career, but I just have not. I hadn't been focused on it like I was for so long. Like, I like feel some guilt about that.

Justin: 33:41

But, man, I'm sorry to hear that.

Blayne Macauley: 33:45

It's okay. I have my very, very best year of doing art when I was like, as popular as I ever was. I had$100,000 worth of revenue, selling art. Just bad. I probably took home $20,000 worth my ass off.

Justin: 34:06

So your hourly rate is very low.

Blayne Macauley: 34:09

Yeah, that was very black and white to me of like, you're not going to get rich doing this, even if you're good. And I was I was good. And I was very successful at it and like, really good, but it just it's not going to be enough money to pay for our family. Right? I'm so yeah. But a sad

Justin: 34:32

it is. You could also use this as an opportunity to parlay into NF T's right to digital art.

Blayne Macauley: 34:40

So exactly. Go exactly. I have some ideas for that. I'd love to talk to you about I think we could do like a whole King. thing. Like a whole you know my kings. Yes. Yeah, I feel like you could. I could do like a whole King release and some people We get it. A lot of people wouldn't. Yeah, see what happens.

Justin: 35:04

I don't see why not. So do you want to tease the episode for tomorrow or for whenever it comes out?

Blayne Macauley: 35:11

Sure. So this episode you're listening to on Thurs day Tober 28 And on Monday, springing up my calendar, Monday, November 1, you will hear an episode with Hugh Henny. Now that's a very big deal. For me for us as a podcast. You know, I love our guests and Alice Salinger on our last episode actually was like, You guys just get the best guest, which I'm so proud of. I think we do have amazing guests. But without him you, there would be no Penny Lane podcast. I mean, he absolutely, like paved the way for all of this. And he, like what he and Dan have done has been so inspiring and just made me think, like, if they can do that, then surely there is like some kind of place here. For me. It's really, really been inspiring, and I'm less interested in talking to him about his trading and more interested in just like you have a stock podcast. I have stock podcasts like there's not that many people who have those. Nose also it it the apex of

Justin: 36:36

right. Yeah, he's at the pinnacle. For sure.

Blayne Macauley: 36:39

Pinnacle. That's a better word. means the same thing as Pinnacle Excel. Okay. Pinnacle is better. Yeah. It's also a golf ball. So it is for you.

Justin: 36:50

This will be a good one for sure. So yeah. Monday, Monday after you've

Blayne Macauley: 36:55

listened. You've listened to their podcast. Yes, I have correct. Okay. Yo, is there anything that you would want to talk to him about?

Justin: 37:04

Probably.

Blayne Macauley: 37:07

Maybe we'll make a list a little outline. Where we go in there cold. With you? Is there well in the wrap up episode or the catch up episode? There are some things you want to just talk about. I just bow guarded the microphone. No, literally.

Justin: 37:25

What we will back pocket those things for another episode when we need pod fodder.

Blayne Macauley: 37:31

Okay, yeah. Cool. Well, I will see you tomorrow.

Justin: 37:36

Yep. Thanks. Alright, everybody.

Blayne Macauley: 37:40

Bye. Thank you to our producer Joel Edwards and Chessy low for our banjo music.

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