Battle Ground History

Episode 13 - Winston Churchill versus Nebuchadnezzar II

July 22, 2018 Season 1 Episode 13
Battle Ground History
Episode 13 - Winston Churchill versus Nebuchadnezzar II
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Episode 13 - Winston Churchill versus Nebuchadnezzar II
Jul 22, 2018 Season 1 Episode 13
Mark Schauss
Today's episode is between Winston Churchill and Nebuchadnezzar II.
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In today's battle of the leaders, we pit the former Prime Minister of the UK, Sir Winston Churchill against one of the greatest kings of the ancient era, Nebuchadnezzar II.
Speaker 1:
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Yeah,
Speaker 2:
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welcome to battleground history, episode 13, Winston Churchill versus Nebuchadnezzar, the second today's podcast and the leaders bracket pits the former prime minister of Great Britain during one of its most trying times, world war versus one of the greatest rulers of the ancient world, Nebuchadnezzar the second who ruled ancient Babylon from six. Oh, five, two, five, 62 BC, Winston Leonard, Spencer Churchill was born on November 30th, 18, 74 at [inaudible] palace and Oxford Shire to Lord Randolph Churchill and his wife. She needs a room. His mother was a beautiful American board and social light coming from Brooklyn, New York. His father was a descendant of the duke of Marlborough and a staunch conservative part of the Tory party. His family was considered wealthy when you look at them from middle class viewpoint, but poor if you compare them with the genuinely wealthy Brits of the day. One of Churchill's biographers, a German author, Sebastian Haffner, was quoted as saying that Churchill's were reached by normal standards, but poor by those who were rich.
Speaker 2:
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Churchill was a handful, especially in his early years of school. He wasn't very good in academics and often with disciplined because of bad behavior. In 18, 88, winston passed the test to get into the heroin school and institution that was chartered under Queen Elizabeth the first and 1572, as with many people with his standing during the golden age of Great Britain. Winston went into the military after spending his last three years at Harrow, preparing for service by 18, 95. Churchill was a second lieutenant in the fourth hustlers regiment. With this position, he was given the ability to travel the world first heading to Cuba, where he fought with the Spanish against the revolutionaries, were trying to gain independence. Winston was very much against this, as we shall see. Next step was a trip to what was then known as Bombay British India, also known now as Mumbai. Churchill was a staunch imperialist and believed that it was the right of the British control, vast swaths of land around the world.
Speaker 2:
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He also did not believe that many of the people in the countries that Britain ruled over, we're capable of self rule. In fact, he was pretty much a racist. He's quoted to have said that I hate Indians, beastly people with a beastly religion when a great feminine occurred there in 1943, partly due to policies put in place by Churchill, he blamed the Indians for it because they bred like rabbits because of this and several other statements, Winston may during his life, he's generally despised in India. Politically, it's somewhat hard to pin down and his beliefs, whether he was a liberal or conservative as he belonged to both parties at one time or another. He was totally against Irish independence for the right of women to vote, but he was a reformist especially of government policies he disagreed with. Initially. He joined the Conservative Party when he ran for the position of MP in 1900.
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His positions early on anchored a number of his fellow conservatives as well as members of the press who sided with him when he gave a speech that was pro labor unions. The Daily Mail said it was radicalism of the reddest type on May 30, first 19. Oh, four Winston Churchill across the floor and joined the Liberal Party when the liberals took over the government in 19. Oh, five. Winston was made under secretary of state for the colonies until 19 oh, eight. He traveled quite extensively throughout parts of the British empire, given his use about native people. We also have to show his other side when responding to rebellions of native Africans during the Bombora rebellion and natal, which later became a state of the Union of South Africa. He stated that the way the Europeans responded was quite disgusting. Butchery of the natives by 1910 church who was appointed to the senior post home secretary.
Speaker 2:
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It is here that he began to understand the importance of the Royal Navy. He was witnessed to a little known episode of history that were priests age, the coming of World War One, and it's known as the AG, a deer crisis. Morocco was the focus with both France and Germany at each other's throats with the Germans threatening war. Churchill saw the growing militarism of Great Britain's future opponents and warned his government that they should prepare to join France and the Russians and opposition to the Germans. If war broke out, h h asquith, the first earl of Oxford with was now the prime minister of the United Kingdom. He appointed Winston to become the first lord of the Admiralty in 1911, a position that he would hold until 1915. Seeing that the Germans were preparing for war. Churchill proclaim that for every naval ship that the Germans would build, a British would make to his primary tasks at the helm of the admiralty was to boost sagging morale, improve conditions for the men, build more submarines, and invest in growing new royal naval air service.
Speaker 2:
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By the time the first world war started, the RNA has had 93 aircraft loan with 727 personnel. By 1918, they had 55,000 men, almost 3000 aircraft along with 103 airships and 126 coastal stations. World War One was not to be Winston Churchill shining moment. Quite the contrary as you would go down in history as one of the authors of the disastrous military campaign known as Gullapalli, thought in what is now known today as Guillebeau Lou Turkey, the British empire, along with France and Russia, tried to launch an amphibious landing on the Gallipoli peninsula and fight their way to Constantinople. Ending the Ottomans part in World War One. It was an utter disaster with over 300,000 casualties on the allies side and 250,000 on the Ottomans. It would be the only victory the Ottoman side would win. One of the commanders was Mustafa Kemal known years later as Mustafa Kemal Ataturk, the founder of the nation of Turkey, and one of the contestants in our rebels, rogues and scholars bracket the conservatives blinged Churchill for the loss, right or wrong.
Speaker 2:
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When a new coalition government was formed, the one stipulation to conservatives demanded was demotion of Winston Churchill. He was deeply hurt years after the war. Churchill, we joined the Conservative Party, but he wasn't sold on all of their policies, which kept them on the outs for some time in the years leading up to World War II. Winston was to move from being ambiguous about the fascist dictators in Italy and Germany as he felt that the Bolsheviks and the Soviet Union were far more dangerous to becoming the loudest advocate for the preparation of war against the fascists. When Britain declared war against the access, as they were to be known, the British people lost all confidence in their leader, Neville Chamberlain. So in 1940, the King George, the sixth as Churchill, the prime minister. This was not a very popular decision, especially among his own party to conservatives, but they ceded to the appointment. The pressure was when Churchill was going to negotiate a peace with Germany, but Winston vehemently opposed any such talk.
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Was he so sure that the allies would win the war? Oh, quite the contrary. He wants told his chief military system. General Hastings is May and June of 1940. That quote, you and I will be dead in three months time, just before the battle of Britain was fought. Another contestant in the battles bracket, Churchill Stiffen. The backbone of the people of Great Britain with is rousing speeches. And here's one of his most famous lines that he supposedly told to the Brits, we shall fight in France. We shall fight on the seas and oceans. We shall fight with growing confidence and growing strength in the air. We shall defend our island. Whatever the cost shall be, we shall fight on the beaches. We shall fight on the landing grounds. We shall fight in the fields and in the streets. We shall fight in the hills. We shall never surrender. I'm sure many of you have heard it, but the problem with that premises, uh, the people of the UK didn't hear that speech until after the war.
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Still, he did bring a never say die attitude amongst the people, especially when things were at their darkest. Churchill would lead his people through the war to its successful conclusion. In 1945 during the war years, there is a stain on him which right or wrong is debated until today, which is the Bengal famine of 1943. It is estimated that two to $3 million people died of starvation and the Bengal province at a $60 million inhabitants after the war, Churchill lost the election to the Labour party, will still very popular with the people. It was felt that there was a yearning for change and that having them continuous prime minister would remind the populace of the suffering they endured. Churchill would continue to be the voice of the opposition for six more years until he returned as prime minister in 1951 where we would serve until his resignation in 1955, his health was declining slowly after he left the government.
Speaker 2:
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Churchill would make speeches and appearances, but he was less and less able as he had suffered. 10 strokes, starting with a minor one in 1949 on January 24th, 1965 at the age of 90 Sir Winston Churchill passed away 70 years to the day of the death of his own father. Now on to our second contestant, the longest reigning king of Babylon, Nebuchadnezzar's, or the second morning, 6:34 BC as the eldest son to Nebbiolo Plasser, the king of Babylon has father rose to power when his troops along with the help of the metis and ancient Iranian people along with the Persians, over through the Assyrians never palacer then may Babylon his capital and began consolidating his power in the region just as Philip. The second and massive don would do for son Alexander, so to didn't have a pulitzer for his son. And Nebuchadnezzar, when the father died in 600, five BC, the sun gave a speech to the God's saying quote, Oh, Merciful Martin took me the House that I have built, endure forever.
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May I be satiated with its splendor, attain old age. They're in with abundant offspring and received there in tribute of the kings of all regions for all mankind. The house he built was indeed filled with splendor at is as it is considered one of the ancient world seven great wonders the hanging gardens of Babylon. He created the garden for his wife, Emiratis and media person, daughter of the king of Medis cyber czar, skis, Nebuchadrezzar also built up all of the city of Babylon to make it one of the largest and most beautiful cities of the ancient times today. The 2000 acre ruins of the city are the largest archeological sites in the Middle East. The king of Babylon was also talked about extensively in the Bible in the book of Daniel, although not always in a positive manner. He was vilified for his attack on Jerusalem and the siege of tire in Jewish tradition.
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He viewed somewhat favorably as he ordered the prediction of Hebrew Prophet Jeremiah, but also forced many Jews to be deported from the area of Palestine. There's also a legend about Nebuchadnezzar in that he had a seven year period where he supposedly went insane, but there's some debate as to whether this actually occurred. Nonetheless, he was considered the greatest ruler and military commander of his era. When he died and five 62 BC, he left a vast and powerful kingdom. That was the dominant power in the Middle East. It only lasted until 5:39 DC when Babylon was conquered by the Persian king cyrus the great. Now onto the scoring first stuff is a 15 points for length of time and power for Winston Churchill. We have his two terms as prime minister, which add up to nine years for nebby condenser. His reign lasted 44 years. This means that the king of Babylon gets to 15 points. All the British prime minister gets five. Next is the effect on the rest of the world. For 20 points here, we can easily give the full 22 churchill because of his role in the events surrounding World War II and comparison well, Nebuchadnezzar did have considerable influence on the entire Middle East is not nearly as impactful as Winston for these reasons to get Churchill 20 and tend to Nebuchadrezzar.
Speaker 2:
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Next step is the 25 points for the effect that each leader had on world history. In my opinion, time is soften the impact that Nebuchadnezzar had on the world. While Churchill's influence remains with us today and will for many years to come, that's why I give 25 to Sir Winston and 22 his opponent. Finally, we need to award the big prize of 40 points for the effect each man had it as country at the time of their leadership. I debated this in my mind for some time and have concluded that they both deserve the maximum number of points. So by a slim margin 90 to 85. The winter of this battle is Sir Winston Churchill. We'll move on to the second round to face Peter the Great. Join me next time when we will move on to the military bracket for great face off between two American generals who served together at the same time, Dwight David Eisenhower and Douglas Macarthur. Will, I hope you enjoyed today's episode. As always, I'd appreciate it if you went to itunes and gave the podcast review and I want to thank the people that have already done that. I've got 13 reviews. Uh, really appreciate every one of you and I'm going to be reading some of them the next episode and thanking those who've already done it.
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