Kendrick Lamar: The New Captain America

What if Kendrick Lamar was the true hero we needed in the Super Bowl? This week the boy talk about the half time show, Captain America: Brave New World, Squid Games 2 and much more! Then they speed round Cobra Kias final season along with Dragon Ball Daima! Tune in and join the conversation on this week's episode of the WBM Podcast!!! 

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Chapters

• 0:04 Super Bowl Halftime Shows and Kendrick
• 8:51 Halftime Show Performances and Diversity
• 15:01 Comparing Marvel Movies and Characters
• 21:30 Marvel Cinematic Universe Analysis
• 26:31 Red Hulk and Movie Marketing Strategies
• 38:09 Cobra Kai and Squid Games Discussion
• 48:13 Dragon Ball Super Saiyan 4 Discussion

Transcript

Speaker 1 0:04

Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning in to the WBM podcast. This is one of your hosts. It's your boy, merc Yo. Welcome back everybody.

Speaker 2 0:12

This is your boy X-Fair.

Speaker 3 0:13

And this is your boy, oscar, in the mix.

Speaker 1 0:15

In the mix? Tell them, Merc Guys, do we have one hell of an episode lined up for?

Speaker 3 0:18

you.

Speaker 1 0:19

Dan, Dan, Dan. Somebody got to do it to him. Are you really going to do it? Somebody got to do it to him.

Speaker 2 0:23

That's right. Y'all, we're really going to do it. Guys, we're talking about Super Bowl halftime shows.

Speaker 1 0:27

That's right. Everybody's talking about it, we're talking.

Speaker 2 0:28

Squid Games. That's right, and we're also talking Captain America.

Speaker 1 0:32

That's right, captain America.

Speaker 3 0:43

Brave New World, brave's right y'all.

Speaker 1 0:44

Well, guys, I'm excited, it's been a minute and we're back to it, so let's go, let's go.

Speaker 2 1:03

We're playing musical chairs today, as you can see a little bit different.

Speaker 1 1:10

I did it because I wanted to show you all this shirt.

Speaker 2 1:14

Bro, that's Sensei as fire as hell. Sensei baby with the Japanese flag, it's like a Japanese soccer jersey.

Speaker 3 1:17

It's like official Adidas.

Speaker 2 1:19

Official Adidas Sensei.

Speaker 1 1:22

All day I dream of Sensei.

Speaker 3 1:23

It's got the 12 casas night, all day, I dream of St Sam's. You're drinking, it's got the Doce Casas night.

Speaker 2 1:29

Oh yeah, the Golden Knights up here. The Golden Knights, the Golden Knights up here. I really wanted to show you how much I love you. I started in Spanish.

Speaker 3 1:37

So to me I'm still like oh, it's the 12 houses. My boy Torres, right here.

Speaker 2 1:43

That's the first one Grande.

Speaker 1 1:46

Horde Bro, this is badass. That's a great jersey, man. Thanks man. Great pick up, great pick up, that's right?

Speaker 2 1:51

Thank you so much for your time. Y'all have a good night. Bye, yeah man Hilarious.

Speaker 3 1:58

I know we've been missing For a minute, but we'll try. It's been cold man it's been cold.

Speaker 2 2:02

It's been cold, man, it's been cold. It's been cold it's been cold.

Speaker 3 2:05

I've been sick. He's been out of the country. He's been inside some countries.

Speaker 1 2:11

That's what I like to call him. Well, we're back at it. We're back, ladies and gentlemen, but speaking of being back, we have to take a lot. Let's just pick up where it's at, bro. We're Kendrick. Right, kendrick did it. Somebody got to do it. Are we going straight into it? Straight into it, bro?

Speaker 3 2:24

I thought it was a great halftime show. Wow, it was awesome.

Speaker 2 2:27

I don't think it was considered entertainment. I think it was more of an art piece. At this point, Absolutely dog.

Speaker 3 2:30

Yeah, but I mean, that's what halftime shows are? You know they should be art pieces.

Speaker 1 2:40

What I'm tired of seeing Kendrick's performance was so simple. It was a couple stages and some people on some choreograph and good camera work.

Speaker 2 2:49

Low key. I was not expecting the message. I, low key, was expecting a turn of events. Samuel.

Speaker 1 2:55

L Jackson, as Uncle Sam Was wild. It was a statement. It was a statement, bro, america divided Too loud, you can't do that Too ghetto. I love that, yeah, that was crazy man.

Speaker 3 3:09

It was interesting to see the guest. I thought he was going to have more guests.

Speaker 1 3:13

Me too. He had Serena SZA, and that was it. That's what he was like. I don't need nobody else.

Speaker 3 3:18

Mustard came out there.

Speaker 1 3:21

He just came out for it.

Speaker 3 3:21

Mustard. He didn't, like Nobody else, did any other songs, you know.

Speaker 2 3:26

And still the most watched. More than Michael Jackson, more yeah.

Speaker 3 3:29

It was still good. It's crazy. I appreciate how simple it was. He didn't even have an outfit change.

Speaker 1 3:33

Oh, one outfit.

Speaker 3 3:35

Yeah, one outfit, bro Ash from Pokemon, all day Catching pets, like that was it.

Speaker 1 3:42

That was it. No, it was fucking fantastic. Like I said, probably the most expensive piece was the car that he stood on at the beginning of the video, bro Other than that.

Speaker 3 3:50

That was like everything else was super affordable. They saved money on this halftime show, bro. What is it? The 1989 GF 87.

Speaker 2 3:56

87. The year he was born. Yeah, oh, okay, so you guys went on rabbit trails man.

Speaker 1 4:00

I know you guys went on the rabbit holes on social media. Oh, man.

Speaker 2 4:03

So I went to horror because, like there's something, because like how kendrick I know I love his rap music but I didn't know, like how his albums are already set up, our pieces like good kid mad city. It's a one day turn of events, like it's events of getting someone like going to a party, getting lied by a girl and then ends up with a friend dying at the end of the story. This all happens in one day. It's good kid mad city, you know. And then you have the album like I'm gonna skip my favorite pincher butterfly and go straight into damn, damn damn is like you told me this story, yeah it's a story.

Speaker 2 4:29

Pretty much the album, from beginning to end, is a storyline of what is and what could have been to the story of kendrick marr. Like the last song called duck's words, it's a story about how, uh, it tells a story about a guy who used to rock kfc's and like, shoot a manager and shit. So this guy will go walk around and then he'll go to this one specific KFC but the manager worked there. Well, he was like, oh, he knew about this fucking guy, so he'll give him like a biscuit, a chicken extra, you know, just to calm the fuck down, and you know, go leave.

Speaker 1 4:52

Send him on his way.

Speaker 2 4:53

Pretty much man. And then, like they tell the laugh about it, how, like what he used to do as a kid he used to like rock KFC places and then come to find out that the guy used to give chickens to was Kendrick Lamar's dad. So the story, so the album, damn, ends like that. But it ends with this point where, like what would have happened if that guy would have committed the crime, killed Kendrick Lamar's father and that would have ended up without a father? And then the album ends with a pop and then it rewinds from the beginning, where you would listen to it backwards, the last song all the way to the first song, and what would have been the story of Kendrick Lamar never having a father and becoming just another hooligan in Lycompton? And then, at the same time, the story goes from the beginning.

Speaker 2 5:40

Who is Kendrick gets closer to God, but it doesn't become strong. He causes a weakness, which is very interesting. You guys listen to the album. However, as the story goes backwards, when you deviate from God, it's called wickedness. There's no strength in that, which is very interesting. It's a great song, it's a great album. And then like stuff like that he went on the rabbit trail.

Speaker 2 5:58

When I told you guys, and he went go to rabbit hole and then you're like, wow, you know what does it mean? The homies are out there. When he says like, uh, I lost 16 homies, I lost friends, 16 to be exact, if you count all 10 guys under the light pole under a guy, that's the dead homie.

Speaker 3 6:13

Oh, they went chilling on top of the light pole.

Speaker 2 6:14

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 3 6:16

A lot of people didn't even catch that. Yeah, bro, yeah, which is interesting.

Speaker 2 6:20

That's when the guy comes in. He's like that's the cultural cheat code Scorekeeper deduct one life. That was my favorite scene.

Speaker 3 6:27

There was like multiple meanings. To deduct one life, yeah, deduct one life.

Speaker 2 6:30

What could it?

Speaker 1 6:31

mean? What do you think it means? Well, I love the whole thing that you talked to me about. I was like the X's and O's and triangles and I was like in the squares and I the. The way it lit up was the pattern for gta's unlimited health and body armor right, yeah because, drake's shots fired. Remember he had the bullet holes coming out with the smoke out of him. Kendra's like bro, I don't need body armor. I got unlimited health and everything. Bro, I'm not going nowhere the lights were sparking.

Speaker 2 6:57

That cheat code, yeah, but then I was just he's like.

Speaker 1 6:59

But do you know why he chose playstation? I was like I I don't get it. He's just like who owns PlayStation. I was like Sony, oh.

Speaker 2 7:06

And who owns Sony is like the label of Drake Sony Universal yeah, that's owned by.

Speaker 1 7:11

That's Drake's record label bro.

Speaker 2 7:12

That's his company.

Speaker 1 7:13

So I was like oh shit, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 7:19

It was wild. Maybe you understand better the art piece. That was the halftime show and one of it was like one of my favorite ones. When he goes mustard, it's like double meaning. Mustard is obviously the song, you know, hey, mustard, and it calls something mustard, like mustard gas, like this, or like disperse, or what I think is muster, as in assemble, which is like the whole, I think it's the end of the whole piece. It's like the only way to fight, like fact. Well, you know what I think is fascism? You gotta assemble as one. You know Everything, you know. I think that's what it meant, cause all the colors Were running together. So he goes Muster and at the end All the shirts Started running towards each other. He's telling you to assemble. I think that's what it meant.

Speaker 1 7:56

And at the very end he's like Turn the TV off, turn the TV, oh shit.

Speaker 2 8:00

Like hey, it has so many meanings. Like no, don't pay attention to TV.

Speaker 1 8:03

There's a message.

Speaker 2 8:04

There's another message.

Speaker 3 8:06

Another message.

Speaker 2 8:08

Bro. The other one that gave it away to me was like I don't want to move too far, but I may be moving too fast, but if y'all slow me down, if you want to my mother never says that.

Speaker 2 8:16

The uniform. My mother says God, the uniform, my, just like that. The uniforms, all solid colors, like all blue, all red. It gave me a lot of like squid games. Plus, like at the very beginning, samuel Jackson was like welcome to the great American game. You know just kind of talking like hey, and just like squid games. You gotta survive this country, bro, and at the end, if you do win, you get a big pot. You know you get the big pot, the American dream. You did it. A lot of people died behind you, but hey, you did it.

Speaker 1 8:45

Let me just say that segue Chef's kiss buddy.

Halftime Show Performances and Diversity

Speaker 3 8:48

That was fucking good. That was good that was good.

Speaker 2 8:51

Somebody got to do it, somebody got to do it to him.

Speaker 1 8:55

Say it, drake, I hit you like I'm young.

Speaker 3 8:57

We've been saying this shit all week, bro, all fucking week it's stuck in my head, man, I don't know where I'd be like probably hit the chords, it's probably a minor.

Speaker 3 9:10

The whole stadium, the whole stadium everybody dog that there's one dude, he's just like he's not gonna play the song he's not gonna play well, he's not gonna say my name say drake, oh shit no, but kendrick, I mean kendrick, his whole career, all his sons, like he's always been. He's always been, it's always been poetry, you know he's an artist for sure he's always been a good writer he's always like, had all that symbolism in his songs. So to see it on the biggest stage it was great it was amazing.

Speaker 1 9:36

My thing is, I think Drake still thought they were making music. You know what I'm saying and eventually you know what I'm saying, and eventually he just got fucked up somewhere.

Speaker 3 9:44

You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 9:46

But hey, the last time he did. This is how we found out he had a son, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 9:50

Oh, that's right.

Speaker 1 9:51

He messed with real people dog and then he finds out real quick that he's from Toronto. Really fast, yeah, man, anyway.

Speaker 2 9:58

Because he's dealing with hood people, people that really survive bullets man. Yeah, bro, like lost homies.

Speaker 1 10:04

Yeah, like some shit went down for them. I feel bad for those guys. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 10:07

Anyway, I digress, I did like having Serena up there doing the crib walk. It was a redemption moment for her. It really was. Whenever she won shit, I don't know what. Tennis tournament, the Olympics, right, no, wimbledon, oh, walking in 2011 and it was a controversy.

Speaker 2 10:27

Yep, I didn't know that. It's crazy culture. Yeah, but she's from compton.

Speaker 3 10:28

Yeah, bro, it's crazy uh so it was a whole thing. So for her to like do it again on on a on a world war stage. Yeah, I mean, it's just super bowl, so it's just america. Yeah, but you know bro.

Speaker 1 10:38

There was a guy who was watching, apparently in japan, who's watching this. He's like bro, I feel so bad for drake coon. Homeboy google's drake coon. He's like bro, I feel so bad for Drake Coon. Homway Googles Drake Coon. He's like oh my bad, wait, what the fuck is this? And it's like Drake in a romantic fantasy intro and Kendrick's like the love interest and shit.

Speaker 3 10:53

Oh, dude, it's so funny he's wearing a skirt and shit, he's got the heart into his head.

Speaker 1 10:56

Anyway, it's fucking hilarious. Check it out Drake, coon, go Google. No, but okay, real quick, they come up with anything. When SZA came out dog, I felt like watching Black Panther immediately.

Speaker 2 11:06

As soon as I heard that shit, all the stars are closer.

Speaker 1 11:10

All the stars are closer. I was in it, bro. I was in it immediately. I was like damn, when's the last?

Speaker 3 11:14

time I watched Black Panther Run it back, yeah, bro. Chadwick Boseman would have been proud. Chadwick would have been up there crip walking. I'm just saying it would have been him instead.

Speaker 1 11:22

Yeah, that's true, oh shit. But no man Hands down great performance, dude. Like I said, michael Jackson's was something impressible. The weekend was great, Bruno Mars was amazing, but hands down, kendrick, takes it from me bro.

Speaker 3 11:36

I mean according to the streams. I mean he's the.

Speaker 1 11:40

Yeah, most watched.

Speaker 3 11:40

I don't know how they measure that.

Speaker 1 11:42

I'm assuming everybody on YouTube, you know they. If Michael Jackson had YouTube at that day, it probably would have been a whole lot more.

Speaker 3 11:49

Yeah, that's what I'm saying, and you know what's crazy.

Speaker 2 11:51

Like I saw the Michael Jackson performance. It is one of those like top tier because he comes out like okay, this guy's so one-piecey, bro, hear me out, bro is Goldie Roger. Bro, bro stands out there literally hockey. He's just standing there, bro. People did you two minutes.

Speaker 1 12:06

He delayed it on purpose. Yeah, he did on purpose.

Speaker 3 12:08

Do you guys know the story? Okay, the producer, the producer he loses his mind like it was the uh, what's called the uh the cue. The cue was whenever he takes off his glasses, the music's gonna start. So michael comes out there and in rehearsal it's like 30 seconds that he's out there. Live in the moment, two whole minutes, and the producer, mike. Mike, take your shades off, mike, come on, mike, somebody, somebody somebody, mike somebody.

Speaker 1 12:38

Mike, watch the video. You only get 10 minutes, mike. What are we doing? What else?

Speaker 3 12:41

does he say on there? He's like I'm gonna lose my shit. I forgot what it's like hold, I'm going to lose my shit. I forgot what it's like Hold two minutes and the producer's just like take him off, please, mike, take him off.

Speaker 1 12:51

Take him off, Hockey bro.

Speaker 2 12:55

I'm scared.

Speaker 1 12:56

It's more like you know what Grown people still passing out to that man, it's hockey for sure, bro.

Speaker 3 13:05

I don't think anybody else could do that.

Speaker 1 13:05

I don't think anybody else could command that stage presence for two minutes straight, 100%. People are losing their shit, look who, bro?

Speaker 3 13:11

I mean, if it was today, I don't know. If it was like even Kendrick, I'm sorry, I love Kendrick, I don't think he could hold the crowd. No when is this guy gonna start?

Speaker 2 13:20

I guarantee you, the president of the United States Was like what's going on? You want to see that Performing, or I'm right here. Take up the shades, bro. The president of Russia Calls the president of the United States. What is going on?

Speaker 3 13:33

Why is he glitching? Why is he glitching?

Speaker 1 13:36

Bro, you can still see people Moving in the background.

Speaker 2 13:39

I don't think it's glitching bro.

Speaker 2 13:40

But if you see the performance, I don't think it's glitching, bro, but if you see the performance, I don't think it's glitching. The performance ends with, like you know, unity. We are the world, we are the future. Which gave you hope, bro. Like, if you think it's 93, bro, see like little kids brown, black, white, asian, hispanic, I guess one of the things like as a kid growing up, you're like, well, this is normal. Like I grew up in the united states, you know there's all kinds of religions, it makes sense. But now and today it's becoming a little more rare. I feel like colors disappearing. That's gonna sound so weird. I feel like colors going away.

Speaker 3 14:11

I mean the way that Things stand today. Some of the people On the extremes Would be like man. That was a DEI halftime show Even.

Speaker 2 14:19

Michael Jackson's Halftime show Is a DEI halftime show.

Speaker 3 14:22

You know Dang. It's sad, that's what they would call it, and DEI is only code for something else Because they can't say it.

Speaker 2 14:30

I'll say it with you.

Speaker 3 14:32

But I mean even that, even all the kids of different colors and races coming out. It'd be like that's a DEI halftime show. It's sad that we got into a point where it's okay for them to say that out loud. You know no.

Speaker 1 14:43

But, anyways before I get too political, get off the soapbox, bro Chill, bro Chill. It's tough, it's tough.

Speaker 3 14:48

I was about to.

Speaker 2 14:49

It's tough, let me tell you, say it. Say it Hard to bomb against me. That's what you got.

Speaker 3 14:54

Washington. So that's why I think I mean that's what we can those type of messages.

Speaker 2 15:01

Yeah, like the colors are fading, but at the same time, say Drake.

Speaker 1 15:05

If you're that young, you best not ever go to sale.

Speaker 3 15:08

block one Like besides, besides all the content.

Speaker 2 15:11

can you imagine Say Drake oh man, diabolical Fucking diabolical Talking about hacking, bro, I see it, it dropped immediately.

Speaker 1 15:22

Immediately.

Speaker 3 15:25

The presence that he had just with one smirk dog, dead ass man, the fact that it became a meme, bro.

Speaker 1 15:30

So many memes my favorite one my favorite one is when they shrink his ass down. It's like the face that all the Willy Wonka kids make whenever they all another fat one dies in Chocolate Pool. You know what I'm saying? I'm like damn alright, alright, alright continue with that.

Speaker 2 15:43

It's hard not to get political, because watching Captain America, that's what Kyle was.

Speaker 3 15:47

Let's jump right into Captain America. I love it. You want to do the Great American Game, or Captain America?

Speaker 1 15:51

We go Captain America. We go Captain America because Kendrick Lamar is the new Captain America. That's right Quote that Ooh, I like that.

Speaker 3 15:57

Thank you, sir. Yeah, so I didn't hate it, it wasn't terrible.

Speaker 1 16:02

It wasn't terrible, I was expecting, that's the. That's the review.

Speaker 3 16:06

That's the best review it's gonna get. I didn't hate it.

Speaker 1 16:09

I didn't hate it. I thought it was gonna be terrible. I expected a three or a four.

Speaker 2 16:12

I wanna say, cause it hit me up, the fact it's a wannabe Winter Soldier, like beat by beat, like secret organization. Within the organization there's a sidekick guy.

Speaker 3 16:21

It takes a lot of cues. For me, like the idea is like they want to ground it and make it this uh spy trailer. Yeah.

Speaker 2 16:27

Mind control. There was mind control in in in uh and they even mention it. Yeah, they sure do the running scene, the whole running scene where, like when, the, the X, the, the, the one, when Winter Soldier was being chased by Captain America, even the ambush, even the ambush in Winter Soldier, yes, the ambush, perfect example.

Speaker 3 16:47

Yeah, it's supposed to like. The ambush is supposed to showcase that Sam can handle himself without like his weapon.

Speaker 2 16:52

And you know how. You said in the movie theater that Harrison Ford carried it.

Speaker 3 17:00

I want to add, carry the movie Carlos Macedo is, I feel, like Serpent the organization oh yeah, carlos Macedo, that was tight. He could Like it should have been a bigger part of the movie. Yeah, they cut whole characters of Serpent out. Did you see that? I did see that. Did you hear about the quote, the?

Speaker 1 17:14

quote made me mad dawg. So the quote is they actually got a crew on set was unbelievable. There was unbelievable tension on set. They cut out giant sequences just out of the film altogether and I quote they said you could tell that they just felt like this wasn't going to be a good movie. I was like damn.

Speaker 3 17:33

I feel like that Serpent stuff should have stayed, especially some of those characters that were comic book references. Well, you know what Serpent is in my mind. They took that out and put Bucky in the movie, which is like he doesn't need to be there. He was a throwaway. Serpent is Hydra.

Speaker 1 17:45

They just didn't want to say Hydra all over again, because if you introduce Hydra all over again, it's the same thing so they used Serpent and then threw it away, so that you didn't say, oh, this must be Hydra. You know?

Speaker 3 17:59

what I'm saying, but it's okay. I mean, itpent is his own thing in the comments, right, but they didn't do anything with it.

Speaker 1 18:04

They're just like a one-time reference to it. Why would they hire Serpent?

Speaker 2 18:10

I don't know, that's it. Nothing ever else has expanded on that, bro, yeah, that was it.

Speaker 1 18:14

But Juan Carlos Esposito was amazing, harrison Ford was great and the sidekick, the Falcon, the new Falcon. I liked him, man Joaquin.

Speaker 3 18:26

Si se puede, si se puede he's a psychic.

Speaker 1 18:28

He's a psychic, genuinely psychic.

Speaker 3 18:30

Yeah, he was a cool falcon yeah he was a cool falcon.

Speaker 2 18:32

He was a good falcon, yeah All right Now, let's get our Because he was the Because Captain Falcon was the falcon in Captain America.

Speaker 1 18:39

Yes.

Speaker 2 18:39

And then you have Captain Falcon.

Speaker 1 18:45

Well, that's actually Fine ass, scarlett.

Speaker 2 18:47

Fucking punch. We have fine ass, sexy dime piece, 10 out of 10. Like gorgeous drop dead, I would stutter like, uh yeah, she would up here in the room. Scarlett Johansson I say that every time I say her name.

Speaker 3 18:59

I say it every time. I say her name.

Speaker 2 19:00

That's how you got introduced to her, and then we had well, I didn't even know what that was, bro, I thought it was the president's new daughter, I mean, I don't remember.

Speaker 3 19:11

It feels like she should have been some kind of reference to a coming character.

Speaker 2 19:13

Oh, she was Captain Israel. I have no idea.

Speaker 3 19:15

Whoa, whoa, whoa.

Speaker 1 19:16

Yes, yes, they go with it. She's Captain Israel. Who are you talking about right now?

Speaker 3 19:19

I'm so confused. The widow, the short girl, the four-foot chick, the who was?

Speaker 1 19:26

beating grown men and picking them up in chains.

Speaker 3 19:29

Whenever she first got introduced in the Oval Office in that presentation, I thought she was a super soldier.

Speaker 1 19:34

The way she was taking them out. Me too, that would have made more sense Turns out she was a widow.

Speaker 3 19:38

But I mean, being a widow can only take you so far when she's four feet tall.

Speaker 1 19:42

Yeah, I'm like it doesn't mean anything to a guy who's 250 pounds. I'm not hating him, but Nah, bro. But tell you what? She's not flipping me, bro, she's not flipping me bro, that's what really hard it to sell.

Speaker 3 19:52

She's flipping me, but you know I'm going to flip her Only because I got a poor center of gravity. That's a whole other thing, though we're not talking. I just never said like.

Speaker 2 20:05

Like bro, it's like I feel like it got shortened down. I feel like they hulked my Captain America. You know what I mean by they hulked him. Oh, they, mark Ruffalo'd hulked. They, mark Ruffalo'd hulked my Captain.

Speaker 3 20:15

America. I get odd choice that this was a direct sequel to 2008's Incredible Hulk.

Speaker 1 20:20

What the fuck Right why?

Speaker 3 20:22

Yes, because, okay, finally those plot lines are being closed out.

Speaker 2 20:27

But why? Why, Homeboy died the guy that played the original oh.

Speaker 1 20:31

Thunderbolt Ross yeah, he passed away. He passed away. I didn't know he passed away for real. That's why they recasted him. Yeah, he was already an old man. I remember him being old, but I didn't know he passed away.

Speaker 3 20:39

That's sad, but regardless the fact that it was a sequel to that movie, I mean Thunderbolt Ross was in a it is. He was a big part of those uh yeah, absolutely no, uh, but yeah, the fact that it was a sequel, I mean, how much time has passed since then you?

Speaker 1 20:54

know it doesn't make sense, because I'm like, okay if they got into an argument there, but the hulk wasn't losing control at that point. How does this take place after eternals and all this other shit, when the hulk already has full, like, recognizance of who he is?

Speaker 3 21:06

mind you, I am yeah and then I mean betty ross is supposed to be A big part of it. It's like at this point Betty Ross should already have reconciled with.

Speaker 1 21:13

If it's like 16 years, we don't even know Even Ross.

Speaker 3 21:16

Is in multiple rooms With banners at this point.

Speaker 1 21:18

Yeah.

Speaker 3 21:19

They're already. They're already Quote unquote friendly. So you would think Betty has already Fixed her relationship.

Speaker 2 21:23

That's true.

Speaker 3 21:25

Again. I know those are the plot holes that we could pick out.

Marvel Cinematic Universe Analysis

Speaker 2 21:29

Yeah, that's me. Mine was like why is the US in Mexican territory? First and foremost? Oh bro, Second one, Second one, I care about this guy, bro, it's like who gave Japan the technology for those missiles. Right. And number three that Japanese pilot was like allow me to shoot this music, bro. No, no, that's what your great great ancestor did years ago, brother. No too soon, bro. No, bro, that made me mad, did you say numb?

Speaker 3 21:55

that's even worse no, I mean, but the whole thing about Celestial Island being divided between the nations, yeah, adamantium being brought into the equation.

Speaker 1 22:03

I mean that's cool, that was a cool concept. Why?

Speaker 3 22:05

would they drop Adamantium? You know what's the element, the elementium, the stronger than.

Speaker 1 22:08

Is it stronger than the elementium? It is In the comics. It really is the ultimate. Yeah, it's the ultimate. Well, what I love is that really in the comics, the celestials, the leftovers, their heads or whatever, they all get turned into mining facilities in some sort.

Speaker 3 22:19

Yeah like.

Speaker 1 22:27

We know that there's really fucking rare minerals and resources there that can be used for tech, medical research and all the other shit. There's gonna be mine so like that, that whole that's a real thing for me. I was like, oh, I like that they brought the world war concept in there. Now. I did think it was crazy that the us soldier was in the kamikaze the japanese.

Speaker 2 22:42

I thought that was wild, that was crazy I was like y'all really went there, huh okay I think, now that you're playing it makes me think that the celestial planet in the middle of the ocean is kind of like what's going to enhance the world, the MCU, where they can like go ahead and move on 200 years from now. Oh yeah, because, like then, this kind of super magic tech from the Guardian shit. You know that stops the sentinel. I'm already spoiling it for you.

Speaker 1 23:09

The sentry, the sentry.

Speaker 2 23:10

But I'm pretty sure that's going to do it Like, hey, we got this super gun. You know, you do this, it squirts this and it puts the sentry down you know, I can't really see how they do it.

Speaker 1 23:19

I can totally see that that would work yeah.

Speaker 2 23:25

That's how you solve that. I think it's gonna. But what the uh, what the celestial middle ocean means from now on for marvel is like oh, any plazas?

Speaker 1 23:32

we don't feel go to celestial bro. Absolutely just pull it out of the celestial. Yeah, I mean, I like that at least they referenced it yes, this is the first time like.

Speaker 3 23:40

So are we not gonna mention that there's a fucking giant in the middle of the ocean?

Speaker 1 23:44

are we just not gonna, you know?

Speaker 2 23:45

but I'm glad that they finally brought it back up. And did you ever watch Eternals?

Speaker 1 23:49

I watched it and fell asleep in it.

Speaker 2 23:50

Did you watch it? Do y'all want to just know right now? Hear it now. I just know the best part. I know, yeah, I know what happened.

Speaker 1 23:56

Okay, okay, and the speedster fight is the best fight that the speedsters ever had. It was an awesome speedster fight.

Speaker 2 24:06

Yeah, but like DC take notes. You know that's Captain.

Speaker 1 24:08

America Okay, real quick, secret ending. Secret ending could possibly be incursions, could possibly be mutants. We don't know yet.

Speaker 3 24:14

What was the secret ending? Oh him talking to the thinker, and the thinker never gets his name. I got to admit, the thinker looks good.

Speaker 1 24:21

He looks good, but he never said he's just like. There was a moment where he easily could have said his supervillain name and he was just like I'm the good guy.

Speaker 3 24:28

Oh yeah, I was like I'm the thinker, the movie's already cringy and kind of cheesy Just say the thinker bro yeah say the thinker Oski made a valid point.

Speaker 1 24:36

He's like bro, it's already balls deep this far. Why are we stopping?

Speaker 3 24:38

It's already cheesy and cringy, just fucking say, it Just say it.

Speaker 1 24:43

Yeah, I'll say it with you better, bro. They just gave him his title, but they never did.

Speaker 3 24:48

Actually, the most grounded thing and the best thing about the movie is the Red.

Speaker 1 24:52

Hulk.

Speaker 3 24:52

Which is a weird thing to say the most grounded, but that tension that the movie's building throughout and Harrison Ford losing his shit throughout the movie.

Speaker 1 25:00

Slowly losing his shit, yeah.

Speaker 3 25:01

It's the best part, it's what carries the movie. He takes the pills in that carrier in the ocean. No, no, no In.

Speaker 1 25:10

Carrier in the ocean whenever he's like about no, no, no in the carrier.

Speaker 3 25:12

Oh, my bad, my bad, he's holding on to his butt, yeah, whenever he gets that call and the tension in that call, it's good. It is good. I mean, those scenes are peak. I almost feel like if they would have held back the Red Hulk from the trailer, if they would have held back the Red Hulk from all the promotional material it would have been so hype to see it in the movie theater, Probably To see his eyes turning red.

Speaker 2 25:32

You would have been like oh yeah, I'll give it to you. You're right, because it should have more like just the face or the foot, you know, like just you know how that is the shield I mean they have hidden big stuff.

Speaker 3 25:45

I feel like they. About the thinker. I agree it should have been real. Hey, the thinker is the bad guy in the trailer. Instead there's like he's shrouded in darkness the whole movie. It's like, bro, what the fuck? Nobody gives a shit about this. They should have put the thinker in the trailer, held back on the red hulk, and then in the movie theater, me watching that movie not knowing that the red hulk was going to come out. What the fuck was that? And then he finally turns in the press conference.

Speaker 2 26:09

It would have been amazing what could have been, what could have been, what could have been.

Speaker 3 26:13

I'll get off my soapbox now.

Speaker 2 26:14

I will say that you listen to this, why, come on, mark it in.

Speaker 3 26:19

Come on, mark it in.

Speaker 2 26:20

Man, no, I'm with you, I'm with you 100%.

Speaker 3 26:25

Again, a lot of people had to show up to red hall, because what else does the movie have going for it?

Red Hulk and Movie Marketing Strategies

Speaker 1 26:29

but I'm like that's you know what. If I didn't know the red hook was in it, if I knew the thinker was a bad guy, would I have gone?

Speaker 2 26:34

yes, after you find out. But here's the thing no investors want my. I want the return of my investment. Then, right after, if I give you a dollar shit, if I buy something on amazon, I want it like already, even though it has like a 24 hour wait. Right same thing with the movie investment. They want that nightly release. So that's why they marketed shit out there. But you which, yes, I would have made that sacrifice If I don't think that hardcore capitalistic way I would have waited, just like Tico said, and then you would have heard rumors. Is it really true?

Speaker 3 27:06

I guess it would have been a gamble, Because then okay, release this, and I mean it's still the number one movie.

Speaker 1 27:11

It's still making money right now? No, this weekend it made $192 million on a $180 million budget, which is pretty fucking good.

Speaker 3 27:17

Okay, but say you had held the Red Hulk and it would have hurt itself Absolutely. Word of mouth, word of mouth. Red.

Speaker 1 27:23

Hulk is in this bitch, watch it. I agree they didn't want to take the risk, though They'd rather not take the risk and they just cashed in immediately.

Speaker 2 27:29

They know the risk because they pushed the shit out of Captain Marvel. They pushed the shit out of Captain Marvel. I never saw it.

Speaker 1 27:35

I never saw it. I don't know.

Speaker 3 27:36

Part two it's strange you know if I saw Captain Marvel Part two. I never saw it.

Speaker 1 27:39

That's what I'm saying I saw the first one.

Speaker 3 27:48

Never crazy. I watched WandaVision. I watched.

Speaker 1 27:50

WandaVision and I watched Ms.

Speaker 2 27:52

Marvel. I love WandaVision.

Speaker 1 27:53

I watched both of those series. I haven't watched Ms Marvel. I liked both of the series.

Speaker 2 27:58

WandaVision was.

Speaker 1 27:58

They could not get me over Brie Larson. I'm sorry, I just couldn't.

Speaker 3 28:01

The movie also had a lot of exposition Just exposition dumps throughout.

Speaker 2 28:05

Yeah.

Speaker 3 28:06

Because, if you don't sit there and watch Falcon and the Winter Soldier, if you haven't watched Celestials, if you haven't watched, if you don't remember Incredible Hulk from 2008. I mean, there was so much exposition. Just because it's pulling on all these, it's a sequel to multiple things, some movies that you could only catch in.

Speaker 1 28:25

Disney+. That's true 1,000%.

Speaker 3 28:27

right, but I mean again.

Speaker 2 28:29

And a big shout out to the product placement, because we saw nothing but we are like GMC electric cars are fucking promoting out the ass.

Speaker 1 28:36

C-mobile Peloton, peloton was fucking.

Speaker 3 28:39

You know what I'm saying? Hummer 3 electric is crazy, crazy.

Speaker 2 28:45

I mean the shit that was out there was wild, the presidential seal that was for sale too, Everything bro, the White House had to be revealed.

Speaker 3 28:51

Yeah, dog, the whole thing.

Speaker 1 28:53

Now I will say the best part about the Red Hulk is that this Red Hulk could kick Green Hulk's ass. Yeah, Right now he would whoop.

Speaker 2 28:58

Mark.

Speaker 1 28:59

Ruffalo's Hulk's ass. So bad dog.

Speaker 2 29:01

No question, not if you take him to fucking Pink Flowers.

Speaker 1 29:06

So it's getting real low If you haven't seen the movie that happened. Captain America went like this I guess we shouldn't touch this face and the fingertip roll. And then he turned back to us.

Speaker 3 29:23

And then we are the world. He had bitten him. I thought it made sense, because he had bitten him to a pulp.

Speaker 1 29:31

That was cool.

Speaker 3 29:33

At the beginning it wouldn't have worked. But at that point Red Hulk Carson Ford was tired and he was like oh man.

Speaker 1 29:40

I like the way that he made him use his. I'll give it to them the way that he used his suit. His suit was actually really fucking dope the fact that it was Wakandan you would have learned that in Falcon and the Winter Soldier.

Speaker 3 29:53

Yes, that's why you have to explain it and name drop it like three times. Yeah, so you don't forget. Yeah, by the way, he has Black Panther suit technology, yeah, which we know from Falcon and the Winter.

Speaker 2 30:02

Soldier, absolutely, also whenever the Hulk ripped it, when he ripped that shit, that's so fucking strong he can rip. What kind of vibranium, oh?

Speaker 1 30:13

So adamantium, he can't rip, but he can dislocate Wolverine's joints. That's what he does whenever the Hulk and Wolverine fight.

Speaker 2 30:18

Jesus.

Speaker 3 30:18

Yeah, ow Red Hulk, that CGI looked pretty good actually.

Speaker 1 30:22

Fucking great dude, yeah Great.

Speaker 3 30:24

The CGI has been lacking lately, but he looked good. I don't know Harrison Ford.

Speaker 1 30:29

Red Hook looks sick. Yeah, him and his bass dog. Without the Hulk he was ripped vascular as fuck dog. I was like why is this 80 year old man so ripped right now? He worked at that Peloton bro.

Speaker 3 30:41

Peloton, I'm telling you every morning to the doctor I did five miles five miles son fucking hilarious. But I mean it looked good man, cause I know She-Hulk, the Hulk's in She-Hulk look fucking dumb.

Speaker 2 30:53

Yeah. Yeah, I'm glad the CGI for the movie actually made the Red Hulk look good and the fight was tight.

Speaker 1 30:59

The whole main thing about the Thinker being kept in a prison you know what I'm saying being experimented on being his think tank, putting him into a presidential office, all this to get you out. Roll with that, bro. That was cool. That was cool. I really like that.

Speaker 2 31:11

I did have a discipline with the thinker because I did look in the comics. The thinker does shit like build big ass robots and shit. Yeah, the hulk yeah so I was kind of hoping on that, like he was kind of had like a little mini robotic army like that would be cool, yeah, but tony stark built this in a cave with a bunch of scraps. So, tony, you're telling me Tony Stark, greater Dan the Thinker.

Speaker 3 31:30

Absolutely yes, yes, I mean. And again another thing about it being a sequel to 2008's Hulk. My hot take is that Edward Norton could have been a better Bruce Banner.

Speaker 1 31:41

Absolutely. I couldn't agree more to your problem. Absolutely, yes, Absolutely bro.

Speaker 3 31:44

To this day. To this day, especially now that they're bringing back Betty Ross'm like man they should have brought they should have kept him.

Speaker 1 31:50

They should have just kept him. Was it money? Was it money? Remember, he was difficult to work with scheduling conflicts he's such a high level he's, you know he's high level, but they said look, we can save some money and have a really easy person to work with.

Speaker 3 32:02

Give it to Ruffalo bro nah, and that 2008, the Incredible Hulk movie that was one of.

Speaker 2 32:16

I mean RDJ. You know Benedict Cumberbatch, what's her name?

Speaker 1 32:20

Well, benedict Cumberbatch wasn't there. Remember in the beginning, though, it was only Chris Evans, chris Helmsworthy, and they were fucking.

Speaker 3 32:27

Evans or somebody they were on the come up.

Speaker 1 32:28

Right, but Helmsworthy was a fucking nobody at that point and then it was. Robert Downey Jr was the next big name in the room.

Speaker 3 32:41

And after that they got Ruffalo as another big like rdj spearheaded. That shit hands down. You know, like he was the star power in that room. Yeah, 100. And now, if you hadn't, it would have been a shared light. Yeah, but I think like banner would have even done more.

Speaker 1 32:47

Yeah oh, dude, see their. Their banter in my mind would have been so much fucking better, dude. Yes, then him and ruffalo being friends. I'm like I don't want them to be friends, be assholes and be dicks towards each other, to push each other to be better.

Speaker 3 32:57

I feel like they could admire each other a little bit, be friendly, but maybe like a little bump in the head, absolutely.

Speaker 1 33:03

Two geniuses aren't always going to get along. There's going to be conflicts at some point.

Speaker 2 33:08

Ego gets in the way.

Speaker 3 33:10

Back to Ultron. I'm like Banner wouldn't have just helped him build Ultron without any pushbacks. Absolutely, we're going like that. Sorry, I love we going like that you know what?

Speaker 1 33:18

I'm sorry, hot takes, hot takes, but that was my plot hole. It was true.

Speaker 3 33:22

I love it take that shit back. Hold on no, but Norton's banner would have not helped him build.

Speaker 1 33:28

He never would have helped him.

Speaker 2 33:29

I agree a low key secret contingency like pull this button, that kills Ultron bullshit yeah, that would have been cool.

Speaker 3 33:34

I feel like in the comics he played something like that that that would have been cool.

Speaker 1 33:37

And then look, ultron being smart enough to be like. I know you can't even trust your people, bam. And then you know, like-. It would have been the whole subplot.

Speaker 3 33:42

It would have been great. That would have been great. Marvel, Y'all guys are sleeping bro, read your content. You guys got great content, man, I got you, jesus.

Speaker 2 33:55

Anyway, we're going to end with the secret ending of Thunderbolts. I think at the very end they need a big tank, so they go to that underground prison where the fuck he's at, because I heard that Homeboy does join the Thunderbolts, the Red Hulk.

Speaker 3 34:09

Oh, you know what that actually would be cool? I mean, I don't know how much that could be in Harrison Ford's bag.

Speaker 2 34:17

Oh, like two movies at a time, If they just keep him in his red hope form.

Speaker 3 34:19

Two tops that's it Personally, because I don't think he'll be okay with all the criticism that movie's getting. Yeah, but at the same time, the best part of the movie is him.

Speaker 2 34:26

Is him? Yeah, he carries and he hates shit. He hates being popular yeah, he does.

Speaker 3 34:30

It's already in the press junkets Do you know how much? And he has to play it off. He's like the money, my boy.

Speaker 1 34:38

The money, bro. He's just like yeah, I signed up for money to have a good time.

Speaker 2 34:41

He hates being Hans, he hates being Indy, he fucking hates being Thunderbolt Ross because he's so cool at it.

Speaker 1 34:46

He's like bro, you're so cool.

Speaker 2 34:48

He's like I want to smoke weed.

Speaker 1 34:55

Weed.

Speaker 3 34:56

Oh, bring him back and be like uh. Main cast of the movie it'd be interesting to see him be. I'll be really cool.

Speaker 1 35:00

I wonder if that pans out because that's how it is in the comics. So red hulk is in the team. Red hulk is on the thunderbolt raw so he's always the leader of it.

Speaker 3 35:10

Yeah, why does thunderbolts have an asterisk on the uh?

Speaker 1 35:12

that one. I don't know. I guess it's for like uh oh maybe because he's not there? Oh, because it's not fully assembled yet.

Speaker 2 35:19

Well, well, I think it'll probably be him Assemble it. It's gonna be like pre-before, and at the very end it's like they add him. This is my guess, I could see them taking.

Speaker 1 35:26

They get rid of the action At the end of it. That would be cool.

Speaker 3 35:27

Something like that. Okay, well, you know, we see that Madam Hydra Is the one.

Speaker 1 35:33

Oh yeah spearhead and shit. She's like running the.

Speaker 3 35:36

What if, like even from inside the raft, he's the one that put it all together as one of the Tinker's plans or something? It's like a backup or something That'd?

Speaker 1 35:44

be cool as fuck dawg.

Speaker 3 35:46

Hey, hey, hey, what's?

Speaker 2 35:47

his name. A statistical measure.

Speaker 3 35:49

There was a 75% chance he's just Anthony Mankin, like help me rebuild the Avengers. Maybe that was his plan all along. Oh, now we get into some really late.

Speaker 2 35:58

That's really good, are you really going to do it? Somebody got to do it to him. All right, I'm sorry. I'm ready for speed round. I'm ready for speed round.

Speaker 1 36:03

All right, go watch Thunderbolts. That's what we're looking forward to next. Yeah, that one.

Speaker 3 36:06

Okay, I wasn't going to watch.

Speaker 2 36:19

Brave New World. I'm right behind you too. Seven, seven, I'm going to go. I was going to say 6.5, but he's right. Seven, seven, good, hard as ever.

Speaker 3 36:25

That same night I was like six but I slept on it and I'm like passion four man. I got to give him some points, yeah.

Speaker 1 36:42

And that's me. I'm giving it a 6.9 because it's my favorite number. Are you really going to do it? Somebody got to do it.

Speaker 2 36:46

So average seven. We're going with us three there you go.

Speaker 1 36:48

Average seven. Three out of three people give it a seven. Would I have?

Speaker 2 36:51

it on. I think it's kind of like the office feel Like it's on but on my phone. But I watched it. I knew I watched it.

Speaker 3 36:58

I knew what happened, it's on and then I got to lock in at the end, exactly when the red hole comes out now. I'm like all right, give me a second Phone down. Give me a second Phone down.

Speaker 2 37:06

Lock in.

Speaker 3 37:06

Lock in bro. Absolutely, that's a perfect description.

Speaker 1 37:18

That is a really that's a a terrible movie. It came out highly, it was wildly mediocre and we loved it yeah.

Speaker 2 37:24

Love is a strong word. I didn't hate it.

Speaker 1 37:28

I and it, I and it so hard yeah.

Speaker 3 37:31

Alright, alright, speed round.

Speaker 1 37:32

Speed round, let's go, let's go. Squid Games Season 2 was fucking phenomenal.

Speaker 3 37:36

My boy Thanos. Welcome to the thanis world oh, he was fucking great.

Speaker 1 37:40

He was great, I loved it, dog I played these games before it was great, man. I love it. I can't wait for the next part. I can't wait for the finale of it or whatever the fuck it's supposed to be my whole take.

Speaker 3 37:51

It was like I didn't think it could be better than season one, but it was like up there it was just the first episode where, like, the two guys are looking for him playing that whole.

Speaker 2 37:59

What do you call it? The game, the proper procedure, game, yeah.

Cobra Kai and Squid Games Discussion

Speaker 3 38:03

That was such an intense part. That was my favorite episode. That was my favorite episode Absolutely. I was like Rob.

Speaker 1 38:10

let's fucking go. Put them all in there, bro, somebody's going to lose. Are you really going to do it?

Speaker 3 38:17

When he plays against the main guy. I know what you're thinking. You can take that gun and shoot me with it and overpower me, but that's only going to prove that.

Speaker 2 38:26

You got to admit that you're shit or something. Yeah, something like that, bro.

Speaker 3 38:30

And then he fucking poof Ball ball bro. And he passes it. I know what you're thinking I was like damn.

Speaker 1 38:37

Yeah, no, he became a badass in the second season, bro. He really did from like the scared Timmy guy.

Speaker 2 38:42

It's been 15 months, so that makes sense, because he bought a hotel. How much is it? I think it's like $37 million cash, Like. I think that's the amount. Yeah but there's nothing to him, though, and he bought a hotel in the underground. I can see why he's a completely different character, because at the very end there was a gun down, at the very end Spoilers. It's a gun down, but he's aiming, he's catching people.

Speaker 3 39:07

He's in some military. He had a shooting range in that hotel. He did, he fucking did in the bottom. He had been training the whole time.

Speaker 2 39:14

Do you?

Speaker 3 39:14

even know how to use that.

Speaker 2 39:16

Bro, do you really know how to do it? Yeah, absolutely. Bro, do you really know how to do it? Yeah, absolutely. He was in that shit and I like to show they showed the other side of the story too hard. Like some of these soldiers are like ex-north koreans, so like it shows how, like the, how difficult it is for people that migration again, who are pretty much migrating because of how terrible it is into another uh country and they have to resort to these kind of horrific things that they were forced to over there.

Speaker 3 39:38

But now here, here, you're getting paid for it you know it's still very much part of the story.

Speaker 2 39:42

yeah, I mean, I really.

Speaker 3 39:43

It's a Korean show, so I mean, they adapt all that North Korean stuff too.

Speaker 1 39:47

I love seeing the background of the Basically the guys behind the mask, you get to see what goes on behind doors between them interest and shit, like that Homegirl's double tapping all the people I thought the homegirl was going to be one of the participants, the way they were sending her up. That's what I'm talking about, yeah.

Speaker 3 40:03

Because she's like, how is she going to pay to find her son in North Korea?

Speaker 1 40:07

Right Me too.

Speaker 3 40:07

I was like, okay, she's going to be a participant and next thing you know, it's like she goes there to like double tap.

Speaker 1 40:17

He lost, bro, he lost. I saw him flinch. Damn yeah In Twitch, bro, the motherfucking Twitch, she comes back yeah it was crazy, but I mean her character is really cool. I mean she's kind of also trying to bring down the system in itself. There's trans characters that are involved into this thing now, which is really freaking wild. You have drugs that are brought into the equation, which is really insane.

Speaker 2 40:36

Oh yeah saying, oh yeah, never thought about that yeah, like they're.

Speaker 1 40:38

They're and it's not going. It's almost going. The same, but then totally different. At the same time, I knew he was fucked after the first game. After the first game, I was like he's always banking on that. This is the exact same game. You think they're?

Speaker 3 40:48

this is the only four games that they've ever played in the playground.

Speaker 1 40:51

Yeah, I was like you're so fucking dumb in the second game. Everybody's like what the fuck is this? He's like I have no idea and I'm like bro I figured it would have, like you know yeah, I like.

Speaker 3 41:01

I like that dream whenever he gets the cookie and he's like the fuck.

Speaker 2 41:05

Yeah, that was like bro. What the fuck, oh shit that was fucking hilarious.

Speaker 3 41:10

He said triangle.

Speaker 2 41:12

It would have been wild this shit would have been crazy dog, but again like people believed in him.

Speaker 1 41:16

He's like, but you played these games right. You made it out, therefore you can do it again. Yeah, nah, bro, only one makes it though and again I think the main, the bad guy, is gonna win. He's like. I want to show you that, no matter what, people are still gonna be when that motherfucker joined.

Speaker 2 41:28

That blew my fucking oh that was good.

Speaker 1 41:31

That was good it was really good. And then, like he was really getting mad too, bro, remember when he was like fuck, whenever they were all chained together, yeah, and then he was a bad guy, his chair, yeah.

Speaker 3 41:40

There's something wrong in the head. I mean, he does have something wrong in the head, that motherfucker is great. One of the big things about this time around was the boating. Oh the brother. They even tagged them. They even tagged them like X's and O's for like yes, let's quit. No, we could quit now. And it really showed that divide about let's keep going. I mean if I was in there I'd be like let's keep going.

Speaker 1 42:07

There's one more game, bro. One more game. That's the problem, See.

Speaker 3 42:12

that's why we don't play league.

Speaker 1 42:12

Good bro, I already know myself I'll be at one more shot bro, look, look, we can't end on a loss, bro, come on, run that shit I made it out when's the next part of squeak game dropping?

Speaker 3 42:27

uh, this june this june, is it really? Yeah, oh, we'll do a deep dive on that one.

Speaker 2 42:32

Yeah, I do have a theory that the main bad guy right was like the our protagonist at some point, but he came to realize that humanity does do that. So because you know at the very beginning, when that random guy was going and handing out bread or a lottery ticket or a piece of bread, and just like stomping on it like what a dick, but I feel like that's what he's.

Speaker 2 42:51

I think that's what it's about. Like this game has been continued for generations like underground. He's in control of it now, but he picks people that are like the lowest of the low. You know, like you know, this guy is a scumbag, this is this and this bitch did that, and so he'd rather pick people like this than you know, civilians that try to like, actually like the guy that ate the bread.

Speaker 2 43:09

You know it's like a hundred people. But he's trying to save the guy, the bread eater, because you know he had a story about his. His wife died. I think something happened like a drunk driver hit or some shit. He started hitting humanity after that. I'm just guessing right now, but I'm guessing that's where leading to right, the bad guys trying to show that like hey, I'm a bad guy, but these are real bad guys just because I'm a bad guy doesn't make me a bad guy like it presents in the choice, like if they were offered bread, of the lottery ticket, they're always going to pick the lottery ticket, so they're going to pick the choice I would have.

Speaker 3 43:39

They're always going to pick the choice that's bad for them. So why do you want to say these?

Speaker 2 43:42

That's true. That's true. I, low-key, would have picked the lorry ticket. If I'm an idiot on the fucking bench, I can get a piece of bread all day, bro, but it might be my day, see, and that's the motherfuckers that end up in.

Speaker 1 43:56

Squid.

Speaker 3 43:57

Games.

Speaker 1 43:58

Hey, bro, it might be my lucky day, Bro. I've lost 17 times today, but hey, I may hit this next one.

Speaker 3 44:05

I wish I would have watched that Squid Games reality TV show.

Speaker 1 44:07

Oh, the one they actually did, right I didn't watch it.

Speaker 3 44:09

People didn't die. Yeah, I wonder if it was fun, man that's true, probably. I wonder if it was a fun watch or not.

Speaker 1 44:16

Mr Beast did his version of it too. Yeah, okay, real quick, going on. Well, you guys are all excited for it. Yes, anybody have any final notes on it?

Speaker 2 44:24

No no.

Speaker 1 44:25

Next Netflix series Cobra fucking Kai bro oh Peak writing. Oda must have helped, though they used him as a reference, bro, did you? Watch it already. Yes, bro, bro Was. I can't believe they wrap up that many storylines. It's so fucking good, 35 years in the making Everything.

Speaker 3 44:42

The whole circle. It was like gut punch after gut punch. I'm crying. Last five episodes.

Speaker 2 44:48

Like ugly crying, bro. Wait, is it last?

Speaker 1 44:51

season. Yeah, it's this Last season. It's over. I'm fucking watching now. There are no more Cobra Kai's now.

Speaker 2 44:56

How many episodes?

Speaker 1 44:57

15 episodes.

Speaker 2 44:58

This was like I can do it. I'm watching that. I'm going to start tonight.

Speaker 3 45:02

It's like so good so fucking good Me as a kid I was a big Karate Kid, because it was one of the trilogies that they played on that Kanashinko that we reference every now and then. Yeah, so like every three months or so, I would watch all three movies Day on Channel 5 in Mexico. Anyways, backstory, backstory.

Speaker 2 45:22

You start 8.30 am. You're done by 2.30.

Speaker 3 45:25

Yeah, but to me. I was a big Karate Kid fan and they had all those flashbacks.

Speaker 1 45:30

So many flashbacks.

Speaker 3 45:32

I mean spoilers, we're spoilers.

Speaker 1 45:36

Yeah, bro.

Speaker 2 45:37

Let him leave for a second. We're going to mute this guy, or?

Speaker 1 45:38

something. Spoilers, bro Kreese and Johnny Dude Bro, that shit, right there broke me dog.

Speaker 3 45:44

Good oral Bro, I knew it was coming Me too, because I know these boys on that redemption trip.

Speaker 1 45:57

Johnny talked into something real there, bro, Because I'm like he must got cast in.

Speaker 2 46:00

Anything, bro, you know what I'm saying. Can we do an episode on it? I got to catch up.

Speaker 1 46:02

Damn it. Yeah, this is a lot of good stuff. Okay, so Crease and Silver? Great fucking finale for them. Oh bro, what a motherfucking way to go. Phenomenal, Phenomenal.

Speaker 3 46:15

The thing after I saw that was like Cobra Kai never dies.

Speaker 2 46:18

We gotta do a whole episode on this.

Speaker 1 46:19

We are, we're not gonna, we're not gonna.

Speaker 2 46:20

I'm just saying okay, so that was cool, you gotta slow down on the, on the speed rockers, like you know.

Speaker 1 46:25

It's great, Anyway. So we'll do a whole deep dive for you guys. We'll do a deep dive.

Speaker 3 46:28

We'll come back next Friday and do a deep. No, should I watch it all three? How should I watch it? Watch one.

Speaker 2 46:42

A few episodes and then two A few episodes, or like one two.

Speaker 1 46:45

They give you the flashbacks From every film.

Speaker 3 46:47

I mean, you've seen them?

Speaker 1 46:48

Yeah, you know them, bro, you're good, you're good.

Speaker 2 46:51

They're back here. Yeah, yeah, yeah as long as they're there. You're fine One, two and three If you have time.

Speaker 3 46:55

They're on Netflix, netflix, so you can watch the three movies and then just start the series.

Speaker 2 46:58

Wait number two. Did he win or lose? Number two, I forgot.

Speaker 3 47:00

He wins in every one of them.

Speaker 2 47:01

The third one, he wins again right.

Speaker 3 47:02

The third one, he goes to Japan.

Speaker 1 47:04

Yeah, and then Fokunawa, no Hilary.

Speaker 2 47:06

Swank.

Speaker 1 47:07

No.

Speaker 2 47:07

Hilary Swank.

Speaker 1 47:08

Damn, that would've been cool, though that would've been cool if they brought her in, but no.

Speaker 3 47:12

You haven't watched any Cobra Kai at. I'll watch it. I swear when they bring back Some of those characters. No, it's so good, alright, alright, one week I got one week I can do it?

Speaker 2 47:21

How many seasons?

Speaker 1 47:23

Six, I can do it. I can do it. I got something to watch. No, he's not gonna do it, I'm gonna do it. Somebody gotta do it, somebody gotta do it Just watch.

Speaker 3 47:30

I mean fuck.

Speaker 1 47:31

It's so good.

Speaker 2 47:36

I just didn't think episode. We'll do a whole episode again.

Speaker 3 47:37

It's older level writing, bro, like the character development the overarching stories, I mean the fact that it goes all the way back to fucking the korean I mean it was great, it was great, it's amazing.

Speaker 1 47:50

So we'll talk more about it. Last thing, last thing, and this is our wrap up uh, it's oh dragon ball, dragon ball.

Speaker 3 47:56

Speaking of, uh, peak level writing, bro, I think I think ss4, goku and daima is like Akira Toriyama, is like final present, absolutely Like final present From beyond the grave, from beyond the grave, giving us like fucking peak Peak. The fights are amazing.

Speaker 1 48:13

When Super Saiyan happens, it's such a big deal. You know what I'm saying when Goku hits that Kamehameha, bro, it's top 10.

Speaker 3 48:21

I'm sorry, kamehameha. Super Saiyan 4. Okay, I saw this hilarious meme that you know. It's like Yu-Gi-Oh Seto Kaiba. It's like I summon Super Saiyan 4 Goku and then Pegasus is like. I think you know this card. It's Super Saiyan Daima Goku. Super Saiyan Fortune Goku. Damn, that's exactly what he is. It looks a little silly because it's like kid Goku.

Speaker 1 48:42

His forms are way too big for his body. Yeah, like in the chest, it's hilarious, but it looks so badass but it's still so hype. Yeah, it looks so cool, that's the criticism.

Speaker 3 48:51

It's like okay, he should like turn adult because he's in then doesn't return to adult. From what I remember, yeah, that moment is 100% positive, so they should have turned him adult.

Speaker 2 49:02

But he probably drew. He was a man I love this cute shit and he probably kept it.

Speaker 1 49:06

I think he just went the cheapy versions of everybody bro it still looks bad.

Speaker 2 49:09

It looks badass, I think he's taking it back to that Dragon Ball era because you know how, for the Dragon Ball to the King.

Speaker 3 49:21

Goku. Obviously, the dub is not out, but the voice actor. Six episodes are dubbed out right now yeah, and they're really cool. But the voice actor in the Super Saiyan 4 fight she killed, it Kills it Amazing.

Speaker 1 49:32

It's really really good. Yeah, dog 5v1 fights. We don't see it in Dragon Ball, we don't see it in Super. Toriyama was like fuck it, we're not doing this one-on-one shit anymore. And they tried to stick with that in the beginning for a little bit and they're like fuck it, Five-on-one, bro, I need your help, oh shit. So here's Piccolo Vegeta. Supreme Kai gets in the fight.

Speaker 3 49:55

When's the last? I think before he passed away. I think it was just him having fun with the story.

Speaker 3 50:00

And he was like you know what I'm going to make all this shit canon and people are talking about he was making it canon so he could bring it back in Super down the road. I hope so, because Super Saiyan 4 against Black Frieza would be epic Right, oh my God, we can still talk about it because, okay, we don't see Super Saiyan 4 in Super because he taps into the demon realm yes, was there going to be a Black Freezer versus Super Saiyan 4?

Speaker 2 50:24

we don't know. We don't know yet. The story hasn't gone anything since.

Speaker 3 50:26

Black Freeza so it's still it's on a hiatus, yeah nothing's happened.

Speaker 1 50:30

So I think they're telling Daima to give more story to tell.

Speaker 3 50:32

But I did see something about in the manga, yeah, they're going to bring back maybe Janemba yeah, which, of course, it would make sense to bring back some of these older forms.

Speaker 1 50:41

Yeah, bro, it's cool as shit. Dog Daima Daima.

Speaker 2 50:46

Go watch Daima guys. It's like Dragon Ball all over again. He was hanging out a lot with Oda and Oda's a Dragon.

Speaker 1 50:52

Ball fan. As a matter of fact, oda even took time off. He said look, I got to chill, I got to take care of myself.

Speaker 3 50:57

It'd be cool if he's helping Toyotaro with some of his story.

Speaker 2 51:00

He probably called him like hey, I remember once we were having beers and we talked about this.

Speaker 1 51:03

Can you help me out dog and he's like I got you Fancy Les.

Speaker 3 51:06

Of course it's his thing, but like hey help me wrap up.

Speaker 1 51:15

Fucking Oda, help me wrap. Each one of the worlds is another island, and each one he goes to, he makes friends and he's a badass and he's just going straight to the shit.

Speaker 3 51:23

Go Cadentes back in the day, exactly, go Cadentes and Dragon Ball Z. So Wapis actually has I mean not Dragon Ball Z, dragon.

Speaker 1 51:29

Ball. Always Wapis has a Dragon Ball 5.

Speaker 3 51:38

So no, but this took me back just to that.

Speaker 2 51:40

He's right, Because Odo likely be like yes, I actually got that from Second gear is. Keio Ken. Yes, absolutely, he's all red, absolutely.

Speaker 1 51:46

He's all red, bro. Yeah, it's not ridiculous.

Speaker 2 51:54

It's not a ridiculous statement at all. Not at all, bro.

Speaker 3 51:56

Yeah. So I'm thinking, I'm thinking it's going to be great if, if, like, he's somehow helping to throw and uh, I mean again, he had all of uh Toriyama's notes before, uh, absolutely before he passed. Hopefully there's there's enough notes to like. I hope so.

Speaker 2 52:11

That's my only. Thing.

Speaker 1 52:12

He has his wife.

Speaker 3 52:21

I'm sure that was that Toriyama was like I'll see you guys on Friday. You know that would make me. The way that Toyotaro got picked is that he wrote a fanfiction manga that was a continuation of Dragon Ball GT.

Speaker 1 52:28

That's right.

Speaker 3 52:29

Wasn't it.

Speaker 1 52:30

Dragon Ball. It's not a bridge, it's something. It's when the white hair and shit came out.

Speaker 3 52:35

Right, super Saiyan 5 came out. Yeah, that was Toyotaro's fanfiction manga I. Super Saiyan 5 came out, super Saiyan 5. Yeah, yeah, that was Toyotaro's like fan fiction manga.

Speaker 1 52:41

I remember that. Yeah, I remember that, so I mean Anything is possible, bro. Anything. Anything is possible. But, we're going to wrap up here.

Speaker 2 52:48

We're going to do our Cobra Kai episode coming soon.

Speaker 3 52:49

They teased it for you and we're going to talk more about Daima I. You guys have been bopping off. It's been amazing guys.

Speaker 1 52:58

And again somebody had to do it. So we're happy we're back for you guys and remember you guys know that we always take comments, emails, requests and all that other good stuff that's right guys, suki what did?

Speaker 3 53:08

you think about the—. Find us at Kunz coming up.

Speaker 1 53:11

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Speaker 2 53:28

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Speaker 3 53:36

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Speaker 1 54:09

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