WBM Podcast aka Witty Banter Media
The Three Best Bros anybody could have (feat. Oski, xFer, & Merc) sit down and go into all sorts of topics while also diverging into wild content. Anime! Pop culture, video games, movies, books, science fiction and actual science. Nothing is safe from the Witty Banter Media treatment. Every episode tends to take an unexpected left turn, so listener discretion advised. However, follow along and you will see they always bring it back full circle. Do not take the WBM Podcast team too seriously because they will never be above a witty joke!
WBM Podcast aka Witty Banter Media
Soccer Champs, Dandadan, & Being Human
xFer shares his journey of winning a soccer championship after six years of dedication and harkwork. He talks about battling "Lady Doubt" during the final moments of the game and what it takes to build a team. The boys also discusses the anime Dandadan, they talk about its unique romance elements and creative fight scenes, before diving into Detroit: Become Human, a video game that explores the idea of AI consciousness and what it means to "be alive."
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good evening, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you so much for tuning into the wbm podcast. This is one of your hosts. It's your boy, mark hey, it's your boy x fair welcome back everybody and there's your boy oski in the mix, guys, do we have one hell of a show for you this week sir, we're talking a little bit about the premier league a little bit of football we're, yeah, man we're also going to talk a little bit of that.
Speaker 1:Anime's been good so far this year, so we're going to talk about that, how it feeds them.
Speaker 2:Actually he's the only one I've watched so far.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, oh, I can talk about my trip there you go, there you go.
Speaker 1:I can talk about and all the Pokemon out there.
Speaker 3:All right, ladies and gentlemen are you guys ready for this one?
Speaker 1:Let's do it.
Speaker 3:Well, ladies and gents, we're back in the studio, we're back in the lab and, as you can tell, it's been so long that we forgot how things work in the lab.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. What are switches? You know what I'm saying. What does butts in here?
Speaker 3:It's just been that long.
Speaker 2:And it's been a while. It was a good summer, because I know you missed us. We were pretty much like in a good little summer break.
Speaker 1:you know doing, you know you know what I'm gonna be honest Life is good Life is good.
Speaker 2:You know what?
Speaker 1:I'm saying Like when you're living life. Unfortunately, you don't have time To always talk about it, that's true man, life is rough.
Speaker 2:And that's what the podcast is about. You know To talk about experiences and moments you've had. One of them Is a big moment I've had. It's I won a A soccer season Y'all. I know what it felt like to win.
Speaker 2:I know what it felt like to be on that english shit, and for that, for a second, I knew what it felt like to be messy. Or like, for a second, you know, to to win a trophy. Like because, like, I've never been involved in a single sport, because, like, growing up, my parents couldn't afford like, signing you up to a team yeah, and that included, like football teams, like, not once even. Actually, in the only fond memory I have was a good friend of mine. He will hopefully make a podcast. His mom paid for one season for me to play soccer.
Speaker 2:I was like a little kid, you know, because my parents couldn't afford it, right. So over the years, man, you know, you have some friends. Slowly but surely Tico was a part of that I started to get together like, hey, let's join, let's join the soccer league, you know. And over time, this is like five, six years man of constant grind. I'm not gonna lie. This is why it felt so good this victory, because, like, when you play a soccer game, you know all things equal, like it's so competitive that it is beyond that. People who are bigger than you, taller than you, more gifted than you, can play well, and it's fascinating seeing that they take it seriously, like they show up late at night. They got kids, they got things to do. You know, hey, I can't play, so part of the like in the last five to six years of the process is getting that, even assembling the team, because you know, I got kids, I got to go to work, I got to drive this out of town.
Speaker 2:So to find people that are committed for a series of 12 weeks to play goalie consistently, to play defense and come up but yeah, hey, the game's at 1045. Can you make it? Most people are like no, I got to go to work tomorrow. So you add that plus the physicality of what is the season Because you play multiple games, it feels just like the Premier League, right.
Speaker 3:And they still got to have that ego, you know.
Speaker 2:To play it, man To score.
Speaker 3:That's crazy.
Speaker 2:But to do it and like I look back to it because, like the victory is like, I see, like it's what every sports documentary talks about, it's like to really experience it. It's something like I urge everybody that has like a goal, whatever it may be like, really stick to it, because it's true, because the goal implied everything, including my diet. Like I became my guy that ate sardines. I never fucking ate sardines, and now I'm here eating sardines.
Speaker 3:That's what I'm saying, like I something that I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't touch to eat, but like my diet changed.
Speaker 3:You know my like I. I'm saying like I something I wouldn't.
Speaker 2:I wouldn't touch this to eat, but like my diet changed you know my like I I'm a goofy guy to buy like wheat, fucking rice, you know, combine it, eat like proper soccer meals, go for runs, hit the gym and like for a goal in mind, because I wanted to know what what victory felt like, you know, and and looking back at holding the trophy is like I see it, because it's something that I never thought I would experience in a lifetime, because it's really like award-winning it.
Speaker 2:When I won it, it felt like when I got my college degree, like it was up there yes, it was up there, like of emotional level, but like all, like everything, like looking back, like going to the gym getting injured, like I remember getting injured going to the er, like it was, it wasn't even worth it like I'm losing money in this, but like, and then like come, you qualify for the semifinals and then this is someone that I want to talk about, because this is like the biggest part, because there's what I like to call lady doubt, like suddenly she just shows up in, like in the back of your ear, start like whispering that seems real, yeah, you know you're you, I made it to the semifinals but like, for some reason, like an echo chamber of saying like I'm calm, I am confident, really made me, you know, not only be part of the team but be part of a heroic part of the team, like contributing to the team and like I'm not the biggest guy, the strongest guy, but like I know that I put in practice, Like I will go and practice against the wall, practice dribbling, practice, the touch, like really, like dedicated to myself.
Speaker 2:I was like no, I really want to know what that victory felt like, cause it's not, you can't not buy it, you know you, you have to really physically earn it.
Speaker 2:Like to it's something that's me and I know it's minimal, but it's like it's experience to to really feel that, that, that ecstasy, that of winning, that, that grind he said it in the anime man to win you gotta change yourself you gotta be able to adapt and change your ego you, you like all that stuff is 100% like, 100% true, in the moment, like I played the semi-finals, it's part of like contributing to the point where, like I am, they seen that I'm bold, taking chances, and thus the team is confident and say, hey, if fernando's doing this, then I can do it too. So the whole team is lifted. And just a quick anecdote in the finals, no, I wasn't the mvp. In fact, the imagine this right is the final game. Like you, you step in bro, and the thing is everybody's faster, stronger, and this is the unbeaten team. They've been undefeated the entire season, so nobody's beat them.
Speaker 2:So, like, the pressure is even higher. And here comes a moment where they're about to score the goal, is about to cross that line, but then here comes fernando. You know like superman, all these thoughts that pico literally just said, you know, like as stupid as it is, but I saved the team from them giving us, us the advantage, and you being being a heroic moment, and something that like was very important to you, really like it resonates. It's hard to explain, but you really have to feel it like lifting that trophy with the team, like all the culmination of like six years consistently showing up, never making it, and just like, and the biggest battle during the finale was when we were up eight, five, so we're up. And then again, lady, lady, doubt creeped up at minute three and she was saying that you know, you're up three points, but they can tie, tie, they can score a goal a minute. It could happen, you see.
Speaker 3:Luck is a big thing in soccer, and suddenly 6-8.
Speaker 2:And I'm like, hey, it's still time. And then they score against 7-8 on mistakes. It was still a minute and a half left and my eyes and this is the only thing I could think about, bro, because all these thoughts were coming, like all this emotional hype Maybe God brought me here just to humble me saying, bro, why are you getting hyped with a dumb amateur game? Like, put your feet on the ground, bro, like this isn't the World Cup.
Speaker 3:No, but then that blue log flaring goes in your eye.
Speaker 1:That's what I think Like the puzzle piece was starting to fall apart.
Speaker 3:And then he's like no 20 seconds. I'm not going to let my ego in here, 15 seconds left.
Speaker 2:Yeah, keep going, keep going.
Speaker 1:I'm not done yet, bro I'm not done, yet I got a little bit more. I got a little bit more 10 seconds left.
Speaker 2:God man. And then seconds left and then, like the moment, like it hit zero, just seeing everyone and the pitchers collapsed, even the losing team me.
Speaker 2:I got on my knees and like, thank you, god, you know five, six years of this, you know. But like I saw what it felt like, like I was like, oh, because all these like professionals talk about it, all these like that talk about it, all these like that, I grind for this. You know I was poor, you know I came from the backside of the Philippines, manny Pacquiao, you know, like I'm just, it's an extent. But you're like, ah, what are they talking about? But the truth is that you can feel it like you can experience something of that magnitude.
Speaker 2:It can be something that, whatever may be to me it happened to be soccer. But it's like he said you, you have to change. Like my diet changed, my mentality changed. Like I had to think that that stupid stuff like mike tyson just say like, close right, get to the pit, the the ring, the more confident I get, mine was the pitch, the closer I got to the pitch, the market was. I had to change, like all this, just to like, lift the plastic. But it wasn't about the trophy, it was pretty much about me, how I pulled Fernando.
Speaker 3:You never thought about the friends you made along the way and the bodies I stomped on and the blood that I made in sweat and tears to get to this place. Don't forget all the teams that you crushed to get there.
Speaker 2:All the egos that you crushed, you broke, bro. That was seeing third and fourth place play and I'm like they're playing the third and fourth place where I don't belong there because I belong in the finale. That was fucking with my head, like my ego was like.
Speaker 3:Remember when you talked about that your MVP moment was just stopping a goal. That happens in that Blue Lock final game in the U-20.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like they give it everything just to stop that goal. Yeah, bro.
Speaker 3:Just stopping that goal keeps the game going.
Speaker 2:Yes, save them. They're hearing people clapping like whoa. You know, even you don't believe that. Stop that Insane bro Nah man.
Speaker 3:But I want to give shout out to everybody. Lulav keeps going to the second half.
Speaker 2:Shout out to Tino Luis Adrian the union, la Union, it's been great, wonderful five, six years.
Speaker 3:Wasn't that my team, the union La?
Speaker 2:Union, yeah, la Union, the union, and many people, everybody you know, even you, tico, you know like we could have done it. I was there a couple years back. Everyone that participated man lifting that was. I thought about y'all because I was like the journey along the way, the people that had to fall off because they couldn't make it life happened. That's what makes it so difficult finding team members all the people that got injured.
Speaker 3:All the people that got injured, damn that's terrible all the egos he had to crush. That's not real.
Speaker 2:Overcome, you know, like overcome myself too, you know, Overcoming doubt, overcoming that these people are better than me, because seeing talented people, the guy that scored the five of the seven goals that almost tied to us, still wasn't enough to win, and that's what, really, what shocks you like, like I was, like you, I was still more, if that makes sense, you know but it is you.
Speaker 3:In that final game was there a little shit tuck into no man. This is the one. This is the one where I went when I walked in I prayed.
Speaker 2:I prayed to god. I please make it a fit. We're gonna make it a fair game. Nobody's injured. You know, best man win and that's what made the victory so sweet, like it was a moment where I contributed, the team won. It was a team effort. It was a close game, cinematic experience. I thought we were about to lose. Lady Doubt showed up out of nowhere. I don't even know why she showed up, but it happens, like all these cinematic events, like, just like the games happen, and it was worth it, bro. It was worth it to be tired as fuck the next day at work. But I urge everybody, everybody wants in your life, whatever goal it may be, yes, keep being persistent. If it doesn't matter, if it's goofy to you, to anybody else, but if it means something to you, I urge you. You know this is why I'm so. The podcast has gone for so long. You know this is a perfect example. We're like. You know, consistency does pay off.
Speaker 3:Consistency pay off no, he's not wrong. Yeah, man, thanks for watching hbo mac. Yeah, bro, but we're back summer break. Hey, I've been locked in as you guys can tell, I've been locked in. Yeah man.
Speaker 2:So that was. That was my little summer story. That's awesome. I just want to give a shout out to the team.
Speaker 3:That's why good stuff are you guys coming back next season? Are you guys gonna defend the title? Yeah, we have to. We have to we got to. We're running back, running back.
Speaker 2:You got to give your Eastergeist speech, bro.
Speaker 3:I'm going to bring him, I'm going to take him to victory for a second year.
Speaker 2:I will bring the U-20 to Houston.
Speaker 3:There you go. Well, actually it's the no, no, no, Over 30 years ago 30?
Speaker 1:The World Cup.
Speaker 2:Under 40 Cup.
Speaker 3:No, but you guys are playing in the main league.
Speaker 2:Right yeah, we got promoted, promoted.
Speaker 3:Did you guys get promoted again, you guys?
Speaker 2:prestiged. Yeah, you get to the next level up, so we're in the higher ranking now.
Speaker 3:Yeah the higher ranking now. We're going to bring you an update on next season. Thanks y'all, x't wait. Dog, yeah, that's awesome.
Speaker 1:Thanks y'all, x-men's got a new story going on for him that's right y'all. Dandaran, though, was another thing that we said we wanted to hop on next shit.
Speaker 2:That's why I love it bro it's such a good anime you know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3:I just skip I think it works, man, it does. The publisher of the creator was like hey, I need you to read all these romance, manga, nobles, right, because I want a shunning with an actual romance that works and feels real. So he did, he did the research and he inserts this romance that works. It's done very well Of course, over here we're like grown adults, so we're thinking about you know you can relate to like two kids holding hands, but I'm sitting there like my boy, okaru.
Speaker 1:No, he didn't, it's not that much.
Speaker 2:I like the ones more where, like, for example, whenever Okaru was in the warm, like in that warm egg thing like a protector from the lava, yeah, and she like no, Cardu, I'm going to save you.
Speaker 1:She thought she lost him, yeah.
Speaker 2:It showed like oh, I never had a bitch there to me, you know.
Speaker 3:Love me that much. That's why I like Momo, because Momo will take some first steps. She was the one in the car when they're holding hands.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, she was like is anything wrong? He's like no, she's. When he initiated the little hand game yeah, absolutely Like the spinning. Yeah, that, yeah, that was it. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Because Okada might not be able to take the first step and I think that's why that's funny.
Speaker 1:I can relate to that, bro, even the fact that he's like getting in shape for her, like just trying to get better to end up protecting his friends you know, no yeah, they've seen one.
Speaker 3:You're still missing one ball he's still missing one ball.
Speaker 1:And again, what is you forget? One ball is real so uh, anyway, but uh, yeah, no, it's, it's good, man like it has that what was episode 6? Episode 7 from season 1 was supposed to be like iconically sad when you figure out homegirl with the pink hair oh yeah, the silky story. The silky, yeah, the silky story was crazy but it was cool though, like even the fact that, like she's kind of taking the back seat, but they're about to go into another type of fight. Oh, okay, okay, okay, yeah.
Speaker 3:We're like mid-season so I know we just got through the whole arc of them facing the warm and evil eye taking over Gigi's body. Yeah, which is really cool, and I think, Gigi's character is really dope you know, that's actually cool how about the scene when they were trying to exercise? They get the rock band. I forget what they call it.
Speaker 1:Oh, I haven't seen that episode yet.
Speaker 2:That's the one I'm missing that's the one I'm saying I gotta wait they get the rock band to come in.
Speaker 3:But there's a one by one where, like the sequence that they do, turning on the knobs and the volume, uh, it's like one by one with back to the future.
Speaker 1:Oh I did.
Speaker 2:I saw that side by side, it was a straight homage to them like there was a scene where, like they have, like they're like that one of our genius, we're about to eat the food. But the food, the food, is real there's real images of food. Yeah, and I love that about it, bro, like I love the randomness you know why, though it's not random.
Speaker 1:So the artist was did the manga so well that they were like they cannot imitate it, so they had to actually use real images of food in order to replicate what he did in the manga yeah, I didn't even know that either. I was like that's a random plug, but it looks like real food. From what?
Speaker 2:I've read he's like a student of the guy that chainsaw man like chainsaw man was the one like pretty much like hey, you know, just go ham, go crazy.
Speaker 3:Like you know, if you want to paint a toe as a villain, you know like whatever man is getting wild right now is it panels, 10 panels in detail of the dead demon fannies damn straight gooning damn for 10 panels. That's two pages bro sorry, random plug, I don't even read chase no man, but like man, that's a gooner manga for sure. But, Chainsaw man has never been known for anything.
Speaker 1:Well, okay, real quick. I do think it's hilarious that in Dandodon people stand up in their panties Like in the first season. That happens like two or three different times. Remember when they're fighting in the school.
Speaker 3:Okay, I thought a really cool fight aspect was fighting in the school that was made out of water. Yeah, yeah, yeah, the crab or whatever. Whenever they fight something supernatural, all of a sudden like this, like the like color switch happens, yeah the whole atmosphere happens.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it's very whenever evil eyes in control, everything was purple yeah and then when okun fights back all red red, yeah, bro, when he busted his ass in that box and he just kept going and kept going.
Speaker 3:Yeah, that scene was so badass, I'm not talking about it. Do-do-do-do-do-do, I'm watching. English 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, that was it, that was it.
Speaker 1:Yeah bro, it was badass. I was like once somebody gets in this box, there's no getting out. And I was like, oh no, and then he fucked.
Speaker 3:Oh, it was cool that was a cool ass scene, dog. I always want to translate it into like what I would say. It's like well, you done, fucked up three ways, my friend.
Speaker 1:That was funny dog. Now you done messed up three ways home, to dub it like that yeah that'd be fun. Yeah, we gotta do some shit like that.
Speaker 2:That would be hilarious, bro, my homie yeah even, even like jinjin's, like uh, what do you call it? Ghost entitled that.
Speaker 1:That was a sad story too oh, the evil eyes sad story, yeah, but we don't know if that's real or not. Was that bullshit? Remember? Because even yeah, because in the end he says that evil eye like whatever you wanted. That's really an evil spirit yeah, it'll project itself, however, it needs to for you.
Speaker 3:Maybe it might have started like that. Him being a kid locked up as a sacrifice, so maybe he does have a sad backstory, but now he's entirely an evil spirit that's trying to kill all humanity.
Speaker 1:Which again, I think it makes even more sense because Gigi's whole thing is about making friends. He sees a lonely kid. All he wants to do is have a friend. That's why he's like he sees a lonely kid.
Speaker 2:All he, all he wants to do is have a friend.
Speaker 1:That's why he's like got his ass, you know he was waiting for, like the acceptance opening because I feel like, if he rejected it, the typical demon yeah, he's like I got you buddy, no worries, that's what sold his ass yeah yeah, yeah, so that was me yeah his ability is badass though him with a little fucking spirit ball bro, the volleyball, that is the negative energy That'll kill shit. It's badass. That's pretty cool. It's badass.
Speaker 2:All the souls With hatred. He pulls them in and like Just evil spirits.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's like it's just straight negative energy.
Speaker 3:We got a few more episodes left, so I think More peak income it's gonna be good, hey man, you know, I did want to talk about Something, grandma.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh bro, oh bro, g-maul is crazy.
Speaker 2:I love that concept that it's like we can goon over like old lady over 60. Like, let's go.
Speaker 3:I like that the cat is arguing. He's like what's up with this super strong hag yeah, the evil one of the clan. Yeah, and the cat goes like what do you mean? You got a super old hag at home. That's hilarious. A super strong, strong, you know, lady at home.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because they had no, so I got a ps5 man shout out to my brother who gave me his old ps5, oh nice you're a little late to the game, brother, I am I'm hella late, but I was never gonna buy it. I was never gonna say it's about to come hey, but it's free though. You know what I'm saying, so it was cool, though, because I was never gonna spend six to five hundred bucks on the system, so i'm't have PS5, so I'm just kidding.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no.
Speaker 1:But he's like it shuts off every now and then and I'm like what do you mean shuts off? So the game would just like something would get corrupted in the game, Sometimes out of play, and it would just shut off. But it doesn't happen all the time. I played for like 10 hours of the day, no problems. I ended up buying. I bought, like, the online game Plus Pass, right, so you get access to Sony's library, all kinds of things, right. So I downloaded a few games Miles Morales, Spider-Man, Nice which was really fun. I get to test drive Spider-Man 2 for a couple of hours.
Speaker 3:You know, what's cool about all those gaming services now Is that you can get so much like. You can play so many free games. That's what I'm older ones and they're great for us like I never played those new ones for free.
Speaker 1:It's like, what I can play that? What do you mean? Yeah, so like bloodborne. Never played bloodborne bloodborne, but it's got a great story, great reviews on it. I play.
Speaker 3:It's a hard-ass game though, bro, oh yeah all those games are difficult, yeah that's one of the demon souls series.
Speaker 1:Right, yeah, it's fucking wild, but then, uh, one of the other ones that, oh, I ghost of you, was to Tewashima Tewashima, I downloaded that one as well. That one's cool, played a little bit of that Fun. The one that really hooked my interest, though, god of War.
Speaker 3:Fall Guys. Fall Guys is where it's at, though.
Speaker 1:No, detroit, become Human.
Speaker 3:Yeah about the. Oh, I played Luna.
Speaker 1:Okay, okay, okay.
Speaker 3:Bro being human or something.
Speaker 1:Being human.
Speaker 3:Is those sex?
Speaker 1:No, no, no. Detroit it's a different, so let me paint the premise for you. This is what really gave me, got me impressed in the game. This is one of the games that has like a bunch of Alternate endings Kind of.
Speaker 2:Not as much as you would like, it's always the thick robots. The reboosey.
Speaker 1:So it is. It's one of those games where it has like 90 different endings. You know that you can unlock in the whole process of the aieuc and uh oh, detroit, become human yeah
Speaker 3:actually, I actually never heard it came out on ps4, but the graphics dog for it's back from 2018 yeah, okay, 2018 bro the graphics, one of those big like hit games that kind of get like shuffled away in history.
Speaker 1:Dog, it's good and the premise is it's the year 2038 or android, so imagine chat, gpt, but in android bodies, right? Yeah, so same thing that that elon and everybody else is trying to do right now. But it's there, but they're not like oh, they look like androids, they look like humans. The only thing that indicates that they're androids is like the little circle thing that's on the side of their, their heads, or they have jackets that you know say whatever the profession is. But you can buy different models. There are made models. There's a dad model, there's a husband model, there's a kid model, right? Why raise a family when you can just buy one, right?
Speaker 3:I'm sure we're gonna get there some point, oh yeah, out of time.
Speaker 1:It was wild, because the premise was supposed to be like in the far future and I'm like, because it was okay, 2018, 2038 is when it takes place. It's 20 years in the future. I'm like, yeah, but we're not far off from this. You're surprised that we're advancing pretty quick. So the thing is, it's like AI, androids, are now taking over jobs. People are losing jobs. I'm sure that will happen and I'm like it's, it's very, and it's like so now there's a hatred for Android.
Speaker 3:Yeah, all you bastards Clankers. That I was that. Okay, you're going to hate all the clankers, but there's going to be a couple of cool ones. You know you're going to be like what's that?
Speaker 1:Well, first off, that's wild. In 18 years, when we go back to this, I can't wait to clip that, bro, it's going to be like look at this guy he can never be governor.
Speaker 3:He sent the C word hard r at the end of it, bro, it's crazy.
Speaker 1:It's clanker, bro, it's clanker what about android 18? You know okay okay, okay, so the you get three different stories in this one. You are an android that is like a model one, right, not a model, she's a, she's a maid and you're in like a broken home. The dad is a real fuck up. He's a drug addict and there's a daughter who you feel really bad for that. She's an abusive family and it's just him and the dad, because oh, you play as the ai.
Speaker 1:Yes, so you play as that one. And then there's another one. There's three different stories that are going on in the story. The second one you play as is marcus. Marcus is actually from a really really well home, from a famous artist. He's treated like an equal. The guy thinks that he's got more inside of him than what he even has to know, right. And then there's a third option or third character that you play. His name is connor. Connor is a prototype who's actually working for the police to find deviants. Deviants are what's known as in the ai for the game, are people that break their programming and they're allowed to do things outside of what their program is.
Speaker 1:So I wrote I robot, but they can break the three rules right, okay, hired by the mafia, go kill whatever kind of, but it's like because of emotional distress that they're going through and you actually end up seeing the segregation of how the androids are treated differently, as, for example, on the bus. There's like a loading dock, like where you would put your luggage, that kind of thing in the back, and the separate areas like this is the androids, but then there's the rest of the bus where the humans can be at. You know what I'm saying? It's it's really wild like the bus stops.
Speaker 2:It's just their items exactly. Are they right? Yeah, so. But I programmed the feelings like we gotta be careful, like well, that's the thing about it.
Speaker 1:They claim that they're alive because once they break these programs, you're alive no, because it's the emotional distress. Andrews are treated like shit in this world, bro. They're treated like dogs yeah, is this self-aware?
Speaker 3:like once it becomes self-aware, then you believe you're alive I told that it can be self-awareaware.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:It's a dangerous, it's a slippery slope.
Speaker 3:It's a slippery slope.
Speaker 1:You're programming not to be.
Speaker 3:You gotta program not to be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but then once it gets aware.
Speaker 2:I gave my toaster the hardware to have the capability.
Speaker 1:And now? And so look, the Android's argument is Now give us freedom.
Speaker 2:We got to shut this shit down.
Speaker 1:That's what it ultimately comes down to. There are alternate routes that you can go in the game, but the government intervenes and then we start getting rounded up in camps.
Speaker 3:Dog, how do you turn this shit up? It's crazy. It's crazy, but the story. It spans in different ways Do they have propaganda like Trump's new PBS videos? You have a public opinion.
Speaker 1:You have the public that goes on your side, whether they can be for you or against you. You can choose to be violent or nonviolent.
Speaker 2:What is freedom to them? Like I live in the forest and shit.
Speaker 1:To not to be able to procreate to be equal rights how.
Speaker 3:Equal rights. You're a robot.
Speaker 1:No, they have love robots. Is it better to be a slave than to die?
Speaker 1:There's a murder case that you had to end up solving the first case that you actually have to solve in the game is a hostage situation where an android is snapped. He killed the husband. The wife is freaking out and he is. He was going to get replaced, they were going to replace his ass. So now he's like he went crazy. That's what made him snap, the emotional distress. So now all that he has a daughter head and he's just like and you have to figure out what's going on. Right, you have to examine the crime scene, figure out and piece of shit all together tells you hostage yeah and then basically I like this retro game review.
Speaker 1:Dude, it's so cool because then at the end of that first level you can either like befriend him to actually make himself turn it in himself in I think I don't even know, because I haven't unlocked that route. One of them is okay, you get close enough, you can't make a bond of trust, so he pulls. He was going to jump with the girl, you snatch her off and you throw her back, you sacrifice yourself. The other one that I just unlocked, where I was like fuck it, clint Eastwood and that bitch, I went in there with the gun, I hit it, I lied, shot his ass, got the girl and then, as a cold-blooded motherfucker, he pops the mag out the girl's crying on the floor.
Speaker 1:He doesn't say shit to her bro, he walks off like a thug.
Speaker 2:That's like damn I am not programmed for emotional distress you call the wrong android anyway, dog.
Speaker 1:So it's walked out like a real clanker like robocop bro that's the first level, dog, and then the story goes from there. So, anyway, you can choose to start a revolution, you can choose to be a pacifist, angry characters can die in your story and you and like you'll see like missing in the map, where, like, a story should have taken place but it doesn't transpire because your character has died, that's because, of the events that you took place.
Speaker 1:you can choose to be like more or less extreme in the in your actions, I guess. But like a simple thing thing of I'm getting pressed by somebody's son and he's really getting to my shit and I have an option I can chill and not do anything or I can push him. I was like a pushback should be fine. No, bro, I pushed the fuck out of him. He hits his head, hits his temple, and the dad's like holy shit, you killed him. And I'm like that was an accident, bro, I didn't mean to do that. So then you have a choice.
Speaker 3:You have to be careful as an AI, bro, you don't know your own strength you kill the daddy, you kill the whole room.
Speaker 1:I killed the whole. No, it was crazy, but like I burned the place down.
Speaker 3:It's very interesting, because the more radicalized, you become as a robot, then it's going to lead you down the revolution. Yeah, bro, but it's wild.
Speaker 1:Let me just tell I ended up killing the chick and the daughter. It turned out the daughter that you were trying to protect the entire time was an AI, right, and you had no idea the entire time. Yeah, so it's kind of a fuck you thing. It's like do you still want to keep on running with this girl now that she's not a human or do you love her any less? And you have the choice to make. Right, you're playing as an AI, right? Yeah, you're playing as the AI bro that you were trying to protect, that you thought was human, is now an AI and I'm like no, I still care.
Speaker 1:The FBI come in, they raid the area that we're at. My girl gets shot trying to do shit. It's like Marcus the main. He ends up becoming like a revolutionary. He ends up like getting accused of that murder I was talking about. They throw his ass in the dump. He has to slowly rebuild himself. He ends up finding this revolutionary outpost and I slowly start like awakening androids throughout the city and I keep on preaching pacifist bro, but there's a love interest that you have that she's like we need to fight back. We need to fight back and, depending on how much you love the bitch, you'll do it right. And ultimately, in the end, the public sees me, bro, like we're on our hands and knees and they're like are you really gonna shoot unarmed people? And, bro, they still kill us dog like it's wild. We still survive. There's a little bit of us. A big ass battle takes place. I choose love. I kiss this bitch. At the very end, everybody's like the president's like all right, stop, we've gone too far, it's too much.
Speaker 1:And out of that time I had connor. I corrupted him to a deviant right, not as a bad way, but like he got more awake seeing all the shit that we were experiencing. Because I saw some of these stories overlap and I'm like hey, bro, you need your help, go to fucking cyber life and awaken the thousand troops that we have, that are there. And I have a choice. I have a partner that a human partner, that doesn't like cops or doesn't like androids the entire time. He gets kidnapped at the very fucking end.
Speaker 1:I have to make a choice. Do I save him? Do I corrupt the people? What do I do? I save homeboy and in the end, because I befriended him so much throughout the game, he's like hey, I think what you're doing may be right. Go ahead and do what you got to do and I'm able to awaken the army of thousands of androids and Detroit's like, okay, we got to leave these guys alone, let them have their peace, and we'll have to reconcile and see how it goes. This is a new awakening in history for mankind. Maybe android species is a new type of life. Maybe artificial intelligence is a new kind of life. And that's how the game ends. I won freedom by doing all this shit. I was like whoa, this is crazy dog.
Speaker 2:What if it is? What if it really is? Is like our biological species turns into ai, like that, like this is, like it's the way we can travel space, you know, like yeah, the gimmick is in my mind is going to be like hey, just upload your consciousness into the same car.
Speaker 1:Oh, alien.
Speaker 3:The new alien earth tv show came out and the title card at the beginning is like there's three type of new species species, or I guess and it's like one of them. Depending on which one goes forward, you know it's going to be what corporation is going to rule everything. So there's the androids, or no? There's a cyborgs which are on augmented human beings, right. The synths which are like fully created Androids, right. Or the hybrids, which is uploaded consciousness onto an Android. Alienware is posting them like. Those are the three options.
Speaker 1:That's not going to be far off. Guys, Are you going?
Speaker 3:to upgrade yourself to become a cyborg, since which are, just you know, ai's Androids? Or are you going to upload your consciousness into an?
Speaker 2:Android body. It's basically become like a fashion statement.
Speaker 1:Oh, I haven't watched the episode, so I'll bring that review once I watch the full episode no, it's gonna be because you know you got a lot of good things about you, got a different model for whatever you're feeling.
Speaker 3:You know I'm saying you're like uh, it's like that netflix series, uh, carbon something oh carbon.
Speaker 1:I think it's just called carbon or altered carbon or something like he uploads himself into a different body yeah, yeah, I mean that in my mind that's gonna be the future, bro, because I'm like. It's like, oh, you get to live forever. It's like, but it's that gimmick of like is this really you or is it just?
Speaker 2:I think that's way, just the ghost, the ai ghost.
Speaker 3:Yeah, because like we haven't figured out how to like there's so much going on in the brain, you know. Yeah, like we will need like so much like storage capacity for that yeah, I mean hey, but they got terabytes and little things.
Speaker 1:Now you know what I'm saying. That's true. How much is the human brain? How many terabytes?
Speaker 2:Yeah it's going to be crazy. Can you imagine we're getting there At me in the comments.
Speaker 3:At me, we're getting there, but yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I'll talk about my spiritual journey.
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