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We're still here, we're still hashing out some philosophical conversations, we're talking about religion and religion stuff, and G just said he literally just said that religion you know he doesn't. He believes, he has full faith in Jesus Christ and his second coming, absolutely unwavering second coming and and absolutely unwavering, unwavering, unwavering was was the word and uh, and. But here's the thing, gee, let me ask you a question. This is a tough question, this is I ask myself this all the time.
Speaker 1:So the say say you know, uh, your neighbor, whatever, uh, he, he prays to his God. Now I, I hit my knees every morning. I, I asked for God's, will not mine to be done? Now, I hit my knees every morning, I ask for God's, will not mine to be done? And sometimes I thank him at night and then maybe think on him during the day if I listen to something or watch something on TV, blah, blah, blah. But say the guy next door, say he was born in wherever Turkey and he's a practicing peaceful. And I'm not saying and you know, I am saying a peaceful, yeah, I am saying a peaceful Muslim who prays to his God seven to ten times a day, but he means nothing besides peace and good intentions and we don't know a man's heart. But from your perspective, the neighbor, or from my perspective, the neighbor. But from your perspective, the neighbor, or from my perspective, the neighbor, he's got a stronger relationship, from what it looks like, with his God than we do our God.
Speaker 2:It's not a stronger relationship, Dan, it's more obedience to his religion. Okay, so the relationship with God has nothing to do with religion. God never came down and said you will be Catholic or you will be Muslim. Jesus never said you will be any of these things. He said seek and you shall find. So as long as you're seeking, as long as your faith in God above is unwavering.
Speaker 2:Which it is. You truly, truly believe and you you honestly see. Whenever I look for something, it takes me a long time to find it because I'm stubborn and I and I picked through stupid shit in my head that I probably shouldn't. You know, and I'm not gonna be the picture-perfect disciple of Christ, but I will always let somebody know that I'm a follower of Jesus Christ. I will screw up.
Speaker 2:Even if you look at all the different disciples that Christ has had throughout the years, they've all had different aspects of their personality that didn't quite fit in any modern day religion. There was always something that was a little bit off with a little bit bit of all of them. But God or Jesus. God and Jesus wanted people from different walks of life, because someone like me isn't gonna resonate as much with somebody who's been raised in a strict Catholic faith. Or if, if you go and try to preach what you know about Jesus to your Muslim neighbor, is he going to hear you? But if you have another Muslim neighbor on the other side who was Muslim but through constant seeking and constant striving to come closer to God, he found himself, jesus Christ, and he realized that he's through Jesus he'd grown closer and closer and closer to God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I guess where I get to, where sometimes I get confused, so I shouldn't say unwavering. I think I'm a firm believer that my pathway to paradise is through Jesus Christ, however Right that my pathway to to paradise is through jesus christ, however right and it says you know only only I think. Once in the new testament does jesus say I'm the truth, the way in the life. Nobody comes to the father except through me. Now, with translations and after translations, I think personally I think man's corrupted religion period period, especially organized religion, man has corrupted it. Jesus also stated wherever two or more are there speaking my name, I'm with them. That's the church of.
Speaker 1:Jesus Christ. You and I doing this right now is the church of Jesus Christ.
Speaker 2:He is with us Exactly Right now.
Speaker 1:Yep, exactly 100%. The problem I see with other—or not with other or not problem but the the, the confusion that sets in sometimes is like, say the Hindus, the Indians? Right, they believe in all these different gods, a God Shiva, a God for this, a God for that, semi similar to the saints and the Catholic organization. Now, some say they don't worship or idolize them. But the Catholic church is one of the most corrupt organizations there is on earth. It's the mafia. It's the mafia and they have a crucifix or a cross around their neck.
Speaker 1:Um, but I guess what I'm getting at is like, sometimes, even at a very young age I was like four or some. Should I ask my mom what like reincarnation was? I have no idea how I thought about that back then, but I had thought that I had already been here before. That's my first early, that's like my earliest memory as a kid. But you know, reincarnation, the interpretation of the Bible, the Old and New Testament, there's so many different ways that you can perceive it. Sometimes I think when we die is when we see Jesus.
Speaker 2:Right, no, you're right, you're right, but again, you said it yourself like it's the interpretation of that. God never told us to take somebody else's interpretation as our truth. Right, we're supposed to take all the experiences well, well, that's, that's perfect. Take the experiences you get from everybody around you, whether it's's me or Luke from the Bible, matthew from Abraham, everybody throughout the Bible. Take their experiences, take everything they offer you seek more, because there's always more. The Bibles have even been manipulated. Just take the Old Testament, just take the.
Speaker 1:King.
Speaker 2:James Version. Yeah, king James versus New International, the way they speak is completely different. They translate the words differently in just those versions. So if this has been translated and translated and translated over 2,000 years, it's all different. So, seek, get your own interpretation, but don't push away Even your Muslim brother from across the street. Listen to what he has to say, of course. Hear him, ask him to hear what you have to say, and that itself is seeking. That's you reaching out to god, saying I'm looking for you where our hands are up, where do we go?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, no, you're right, yeah, I always um, I mean, I try to always. I think it's just natural who I am, that I I like to hear other people's perspectives, especially when it comes to very important topics like the two you're not ever supposed to talk to in a professional setting, or you know, you know how people are. But politics and religion, I mean those two, those are the only things I I politics, I'm not as interested in, because I understand that again, just like man corrupted these books with translations and they left books out. And there was a and there was 12. There was like, not 12, they weren't the disciples, but they were these appointed men in the catholic church, before the catholic church, to to decide what books do we keep, what books do we leave out of the Bible, and it's just like. But like you were saying with Trump, just like you were saying with Trump.
Speaker 2:They have their own opinions and their own agendas.
Speaker 2:So, yes, they're seeking God, but they're also.
Speaker 2:Even if you were having a conversation with God right now and you were the only one that could hear God speaking to you and you were trying only one that could hear God speaking to you and you were trying to explain everything, if God's telling you a list of 100 things that he wants you to do, some of those things would be a little bit contorted. Or say he's speaking to you in a language that only you and God understand. When you retranslate it to me and the rest of the world, you're like, yeah, that's cool, but that one about no drinking, I think he said nothing, over 90%. You know like I'm not saying that you would, I'm just saying everybody, once they retranslate something or they get something, or say you translate it perfectly, then when they go to put it to print, or your disciples who learn from you, say that seems a little bit extreme. Why don't we tape it down, because everybody's going to be turned off by this? Like, why don't we slow it down and we can tell them he really meant something else later on?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, you know what. I just pulled this off my fridge. I wrote this, uh, for my son, in case you never know what happens. You know what I mean. But I wrote these as like, uh, as like a little for him, my, my personal advice to my son if, if you know, if I can't teach him these things on my own, um, each morning, hit your knees and ask God for his will to be done.
Speaker 1:I said a relationship with God is the most important aspect of this life. Love your mother. Do not take this life so seriously. Do not worry about the opinions of others. Follow the 10 commandments. Travel the world as much as possible. Serve your country honorably. Take calculated risks. Do not take drugs, get drunk or gamble. You are protected by your grandfather, michael the Archangel. More importantly, god does as well meaning protect them. Everything is temporary. Take care of those less fortunate. Love your neighbor and your enemy. Temporary. Take care of those less fortunate. Love your neighbor and your enemy. Set goals. Smile in the face of adversity. Death is only a new life. I will always love you. Spare the rod with your young. Each night, take the man to thank the man upstairs for another day. I was about to say take the man upstairs.
Speaker 2:That's good advice, man. Like I mean, heaven forbid anything happen to you. But honestly, is it even our choice?
Speaker 1:Like if it's our time to die. No, it's not our choice.
Speaker 2:Like you could have died that very first mission. If God wanted you home already, little X wouldn't even be here.
Speaker 1:Dude, and I, yo, yo G being a father. I mean it's really like Yo G being a father. I mean it's really like he's changing me man on a daily basis. His mother drives me fucking nuts, but that's expected, that's expected. And you know, I'm not in control as much as I think I am, and God is. So I thank him. I thank him every day, man. But yeah, that's my advice. I'm sure that list may change a little bit, but who knows, man Yo, what was the other thing you had, jay, I?
Speaker 1:don't even remember now yeah, this has been a uh dynamite, dynamite, uh podcast. You, you're the shit jay you really are man I mean, yeah, so how are things? So what kind of church are you going? So we'll wrap this up in a few minutes.
Speaker 2:I'm gonna go get a the back of my hair's cut well, right now we're going to Church of Christ of Latter-day Saints.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:Okay yeah, we look everywhere, like I don't stop with one religion. I've been researching religion and trying to be part of different religions since I was probably 9 or 10.
Speaker 1:Okay, lds, it's funny, they these more.
Speaker 1:They're mormons yeah and then there's the flds, which is a branch of mormonism, which is what that netflix documentary was made after. But you know again, just like there's going to be corruption in the cath church, there's going to be corruption in in any, any organization. Um, that pretty much runs off of the dollar, the mighty dollar. Just like politics, there's going to be, there's going to be corruption. And I've never experienced, uh, the LDS church. But you know, I know they're, they're, they're stout believers and they are, yeah, and, and, and you know, some of them are there to to some, some churches are really there for I mean most of them, even the catholic church. They're there for for the greater, they think they're there for the greater good.
Speaker 1:But what happens is yo, gee, did you see that movie? Um, did you see that movie? Uh, what's that? That saint, that about the, the, the politics behind the election of a new pope. Do you know what I'm talking about? No, I never saw it. Oh, my gosh, oh, the, what the fuck is the name of it? Yeah, I gotta, gee, you gotta, watch this shit. So the entire movie, not the pontiff movie about election of pope. I can't believe it. Anyway, it won awards and shit, conclave, conclave.
Speaker 1:So this movie is essentially about the election. The Pope dies, right, just like the Pope's about to die now. Well, at least he's on his deathbed. I don't know if he's going to croak or not, but either which way I don't wish death upon anybody, but the bottom line is he's on his deathbed. So, anyway, the Conclave just came out in 2024, g and freaking. You know the entire movie real, like suspenseful.
Speaker 1:Somebody had told me to watch it about the Catholic Church and there's politics involved and all the archbishops from around the world are there and the bottom line is the Pope that gets elected. You're not going to believe this shit. Are you listening? Are you sitting? He, the Pope that gets elected at the very end turns out, at least they say. But I, I looked this up, I don't think you can be he. He was, um, he was born with, with ovaries and a pecker, and I'm like, what in the fuck is this nonsense Like? First of all, I don't think that's possible. Second of all, this is the way of like organized religion man, even this, and again, the transgender thing. I know I've fucked around on social media.
Speaker 2:I think it's a joke, but I don't think it's a joke. Medically it is possible to be born a hermaphrodite, because we all start off as women and then men, of course, adapt and change. But if you don't complete the process of changing, heaven forbid, you're a preemie and you're still in the process of shedding half your female traits.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you can be born like that.
Speaker 2:Medically. I don't think that like. Like you have a full ass, you know winner yeah, yeah, I'm 36. I still don't have a full I didn't want to say it, but we know. We know what is that. Oh my gosh.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the funny thing is is when Xavier was born, his like I was stressing about the DNA test, like I need a DNA test. His mother didn't want to be with me before she got pregnant. So I'm like what the fuck? Like I got to get a DNA test. So the day he was born he was born at home or whatever I called him handed him to his mother and I had him for like a split second by myself. I swabbed his nose or whatever. Anyhow, 99% chance, 99.99999% chance. He's my son, obviously. So he's my son.
Speaker 1:But I was telling my mom, I was like mom, something feels off about this. Blah, blah, blah, before I got the results and everything. And she's like blah, blah, blah, before I got the results and everything. And and she's like, well, you know there's, does he look like you? And I'm like I don't know if he looks like me. Not really. I mean blah, blah, blah. So I'm waiting on the results, stressing out. And then my mom's like, well, there's another way to tell. But I'm not going to say. And I'm like what do you mean? The doctor was like whoa, he's gonna give the lady some trouble. So I was like oh shit, he's definitely my son. That's the end of the story.
Speaker 2:But yeah, it's true, but I guess, I think, I guess stop growing, trying to hit a toddler or something.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but dude, that Conclave movie, check it out. I mean it's interesting with the politics behind the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2:Dan, it's funny you brought that up too, because my biggest issue with this LDS church was their belief in their prophet, russell Nelson. My biggest issue was that, and with them, like I, like that they don't say well, this is the rule behind it, this is why we do it, this is why he was elected, they, they go back to well, pray on it like find some peace, find some solitude, take a knee, ask God, talk to Jesus, pray and see where it leads you. They don't try to force it through their point of view. Of course, I like getting it directly from the source. So I literally prayed on it A lot, a whole lot. And it's funny because my dad that night sent me the copy of the Apocrypha, which is the books that are banned from the Bible and one of the first books I opened up to when I first got it, because it showed up at like 8 o'clock in the morning, like right after.
Speaker 1:Gee that word you just used what you call it on a pocket. What is it? I'll send you a link. Is that basically? Is that basically just for this bible or for all bibles? That's the term that's used in and that's what I'm. That's what I'm because I know their bible is just based off of that. One guy wrote it and jesus visited them here in America, right?
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, I don't know. Every religion manipulates how many books are in their Bible, or what they're going to use and what they're not going to use. This is the one I have. The one my dad sent me was a 54-book Apocrypha, and there are a lot of people that will say that there's only 13 books left out. So I don't know. I got 54. I haven't read them all because you know I'm busy, but I will. But anyway, that night I opened up, or that morning when I got it, I opened up and the first page I turned to was the book of the prophets, which I just thought was funny. But like, like, when I prayed that night, I got nothing. You know, I'm sitting there looking like a boob, I'm praying and god still hasn't said anything. I was like, all right, well, you, let me know what you, what you, come up with. I'm gonna go to bed, man. So I went to lay down, I went to bed and I I know it sounds stupid, but I legit had a dream that I was talking with jesus.
Speaker 2:But like, oh damn it's weird though like because, like, I didn't turn around, I didn't get to see him. Like you know, if you're, uh, you're hanging out with your best friend, like, say, we're on a deployment, and I walk up behind you and I start talking to you, do you need to turn around to look at me to know who I'm, who you're talking to? So it was like that, like I was just sitting out there looking over just like mountain range, because I like the mountains, man, like I'm just I love the mountains. Yeah, that's like my peaceful place. So I'm just sitting here just kind of hanging out this mountain range, and I knew where the mountains were too. But then, uh, jesus came up behind me and he sat somebody next to me, but a little bit still behind me.
Speaker 2:I was like, oh man, I've been, I've been waiting on you, I've got to know, like, like a lot of the history behind the LDS church and stuff, like some of it is a little far-fetched, but a lot of the ancient history is matching up with actual, legit evidence that we're finding today. Like, in my logical mind, this is leading me to this church, but this I can't get over this. And Jesus just said, said, like this is where I want you for now, like if you have faith in me, you believe that I'm not going to lead you astray. This is where I want you for now and I was like.
Speaker 2:Well, I can't deny that I absolutely have faith in you. You're like my father, brother mix and if this is where you say you want me to go then I'm not saying that it's for everybody, but I'm just saying, on my walk and in my journey, this is where God has led me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I think it's phenomenal to even bounce around the different churches and just get a vibe for them. I mean, most of the time you're going to just meet and run into good people, yeah.
Speaker 2:Well, but you can't always base it off the people. Somebody could be just having a shitty day and ruin your whole taste for an entire religion. So I like to get into it, like to see the whole thing and to actually understand it, why they're different than, like what's different from a Protestant and a Catholic like it's just. To me it's just the strictness of the rules, but I'm sure they have their own version or their own idea.
Speaker 1:That's the impression that I got is their difference yeah, they split off because, well, it started with Catholicism and Eastern Orthodox, so, like Russia and obviously the east of the world, so the world, so the Orthodoxies and the Catholics, they split. They were one but they split. Obviously, war and politics played a big part of it, but the Orthodoxies didn't want to, didn't believe in the Pope, but then like, yeah, there's so many different branches, like Lutheranism and, uh, I don't know, there's the Protestants, are the non-denominational ones. I can appreciate religion, just like you and I are talking right now. Man, it's not about. It's not about just like you said, just like Jesus told you in your dream you're exactly where I want you like in your dream.
Speaker 2:You're exactly where I want you like in your journey. It's a journey, yeah. Like you're picking up whatever you can. Like I'm absorbing.
Speaker 2:Like Jesus knows my mind, he knows he gives me that critical thinking. Like if Jesus didn't want me to question things, he wouldn't have given me such a skeptical mind. Like Jesus would alleviate all my fears in an instant if he just said this is it? This is like jesus alleviate all my fears in an instant. If he just said this is it, this is the end. I'll be all stay here and that's exactly what I would do. But he wants me to question things, he wants me to seek, he wants me to keep pushing and keep finding and discovering more and more. Like, like I don't know what my end state is. I don't know what his final goal is for me and I don't think any of us will ever know until we're sitting in front of him when it's all over, if we stay true to him, we truly, with that praying thing, I know a lot of people that are listening are going to say BS, that didn't happen.
Speaker 1:Or I don't sound like a typical LDS.
Speaker 2:The first time I started with the Mormon religion, I was asked to do the same thing. Like well, why don't you pray? I was still having some problems with the prophet. I actually had quite a bit with him, but I was like you know, I can ignore that and I went to go pray for it, pray about it, and then I went to this mountain that that actually had this dream with Jesus on, and I didn't get a dream or anything like that. Nothing happened, Nothing changed. I was like, alright, well, I'm going to go back down. My buddy in Colorado has a beautiful ranch and he's right next to a wolf preserve, so I like to go to this hill and it just kind of overlooks the wolves.
Speaker 1:It's just really neat, neat.
Speaker 2:It's a beautiful place yeah damn yeah, it's like a like people get like hybrid wolves or they're the wolf dogs and and then there's some wolves that come from like zoos or wherever that they can't. This is like a rehab place where they get them and like keep them safe so they don't just slaughter them, they can't be re-released where's's this at G?
Speaker 1:Where's it at?
Speaker 2:It's in West Cliff Colorado.
Speaker 1:Damn dude Wolves. My father called my brother the wolf dog. Him and I are at odds. Wolf dog was him and I was the fox wolf. There was two other brothers.
Speaker 2:They didn't get names, but if you ever want to go out there, man, let me know. I'll call him. Like he won't make you pay to stay there, like you get to go out there you can shoot some guns and he's got like 170-something acres and his nearest neighbor is a cattle rancher and the wolf reserve.
Speaker 1:Damn dude, that's so sweet, All right.
Speaker 2:If you ever get the urge, beautiful place to take the family. I mean I'm telling you, get close to God there, Take a few walks, Go up a hill somewhere and you'll find him. But anyway, what?
Speaker 2:I was trying to say is when I first prayed about this LDS religion, I came down and kind of nothing happened and it's kind of out there, you know. So we drove back to town and then like right then, like that day is when we started hearing about this COVID nonsense and I was like well, that's one hell of a fucking answer. Like I mean I'm asking you, am I going the right direction? And then half the world dies Like I don't know what the heck I just got into. So I just kind of I didn't stay away from it, but I was a lot more critical. Like they'd send missionaries to my house and I wasn't quite as lenient with their half answers, you know, like I really pushed them, Like come.
Speaker 1:I really pushed them. Come up with a real answer.
Speaker 2:This is crap. I don't want this half-truth stuff. I was probably too hard on some of them, but some of them actually kind of needed it, probably too. I finally slowly calmed down, relaxed and they showed up back at my house. We came back to El Paso and we had these girl missionaries that showed up to my house. I don't let random girls at my house. We came back to El Paso and we had these girl missionaries that showed up to my house. I don't let random girls into my house, even if they're missionaries. If my family's here, my wife's here, then sure.
Speaker 1:But if it's just me, it's not going to happen, of course.
Speaker 2:I talked to them for a second out on the porch and then I sent them away. They kind of just went away. But then they came back a couple weeks later and my wife was here, my kids were here. So I was like all right, well, let's do this, like don't be mad when I hurt your feelings.
Speaker 1:Right, right right.
Speaker 2:And I don't know, I just got a lot more peaceful about it Like you ever know. You're gonna have a conversation with somebody and you just kind of like, and you know you're about to fire somebody, you're about to get fired, you got to go and have this conversation.
Speaker 1:you're just like oh, it's already like that and we sat down to talk.
Speaker 2:I made a little pond in my front yard and I got a couple coy in there, so I'm sitting down there and they I made them sit around. We started a little fire in the front yard and we started to relax. I started to relax. That animosity that I had just kind of started to go away and I started to hear what they had to say. They weren't saying anything new, anything that a thousand other missionaries hadn't said. It felt different. This time I was still going to push off.
Speaker 2:I met this new guy from the church, like brilliant man, like just you would absolutely love him, like I'd actually really like to set you up to talk with him. His name is actually I don't know if I should say his name, I'm going to anyway, but his name is Rick Bushman. Okay, and he was a Ranger back in the day. Okay, he went from E1 to E7 as a Ranger and then he became an officer. But now he's a doctor, still active duty, but I think he's calling it quits. He put in his retirement packet and I think he's had enough.
Speaker 1:And he's a part of the, the lds, yes okay, well, he's the.
Speaker 2:He's the reason that made me start to to to ask god, is this the right way? Again, like before then, I was like I'm just not doing this, I'm not feeling it. It just feels so stupid. You guys can't give me a straight answer on anything. And, and I think, the way he explained it because he's a science and logic he talks like a man, but he was also so. He is also a soldier. So you know what we? We see things, we understand things differently. Then I guess most civilians, sure, and he had a lot of similar experiences that that we did when we were young. So when he spoke to me, we asked a lot of similar experiences that we did when we were young. When he spoke to me, we asked a lot of these questions.
Speaker 1:He was giving quick, direct, concise answers, like I'm used to.
Speaker 2:No BS, no beating around the bush. I'd love for you to talk to him one of these days.
Speaker 1:I'm open to talking with anybody. The LD, they showed up at my door too. They must have my retarded marine buddy. Um, he, he bars his truck here and I guess he saw two good-looking girls because he's on his spiritual journey as well.
Speaker 1:He, I shouldn't call him retarded, but he's fucking retarded anyway, he's a marine thing yeah, it's a marine thing, yeah, so, so they show up, he, he sees him on uh facebook or social media and he obviously inquires dude, gives them my address because he leaves his truck here, because he's a truck driver on the road.
Speaker 1:so these two like girls are knocking at my door and they're you know they're, they're fresh out of high school maybe. Yeah, yeah, fresh out of high school and they're from out that way. I guess Utah is where LDS, I think, started and they sent them out here to the East Coast banging on doors and you know they're good-looking too. So it's actually like you know what guy it's like women salesmen and again, know what guy it's like? It's like women salesmen. And again, what guy is gonna just like shut the door on them? Probably, probably not many. Um, but they gave me the book, or whatever, the book of what's his name? Uh, nelson or mormon, yeah, yeah, yeah, but, yeah, but what's what's the guy's name? The, uh, the prophet, the prophet the russell n.
Speaker 1:Yeah, russell Nelson, and then I just asked a few questions and, like you know, obviously Jesus came after America came, so it's a much newer Christian um denomination. Uh, jesus came to America and visited him and then I was, you know, I guess, like you know, anything's possible with God one, but I didn didn't, I didn't make any further, further movements towards it because I don't know, like between my uh, son's grandparents being super catholic, with with her mom, and and super, super catholic, it's like, dude, the catholics they believe, when you take the blood of christ, or the blood, the wine and the bread, the body and blood of Christ, they literally think through transubstantiation it's called that it actually becomes Jesus, his body and his blood. Dude, so they're eating Jesus Christ like, and they really think it like that. That to me is like another reason that's retarded. Just, it's just retarded.
Speaker 2:I mean, come on, like there's so many different things that the LDS church, we also take sacrament, but it's in remembrance of the sacrifice. We don't believe that we're actually taking a chunk out of Jesus. We do it ceremonially in remembrance of the sacrifice that he made damn dude.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so yeah, it's. Yeah, I'll definitely have us have a conversation with the, with the gentleman now now this isn't his dude who I? I'm interested with the about the, with these wolves. Man, I went camping for the first time since I was, you know, my parents never. I went with my buddy's parents back when I was like going into ninth grade or whatever, and I went. I went, like this past weekend with with, with Xavier, xavier and and his mother, and it's like, dude, I love camping bro. So maybe a trip to, maybe a trip to Colorado is is is on the bucket list. Shit. I would love to look at wolves.
Speaker 2:Dan, I think you want to take all this different input that you get from every different source, every different person you talk to for your podcast, every person you just happenstance, you just happen to run into throughout life. Yeah, they may be telling you something and not even realize that they're being influenced by by God himself, like they may. Your buddy using your address yeah, what if it was a joke? But it was also God saying I think I might need to come and talk to you, but maybe that's not the place that you're supposed to be right now in life. And me bringing up the the west west cliff ranch called the nest, uh, is god's way of saying maybe you need to go out here and pray to yourself and you and god can figure out where you you're supposed to go yeah, yeah, like.
Speaker 2:So like all these little things. Like you, I know from what you do like you're going to get input from so many different directions so it's going to get confusing, right. But pay attention to the bigger picture. Don't look at just right, here and now, right in front of you. Don't get the tunnel vision. Keep the big picture and see where all this different input is leading you. Keep God in your mind. Ignore all the stuff that's holding you down, all this shit. Like somebody's a Catholic. So I can't do that. That's an anchor. Anchor, yeah, like boats don't move anywhere with anchors. Man, pull all that shit up like figure out where god wants you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, that's the best advice, dude.
Speaker 1:I always ask people for, for, for their, their one advice you know that but that was uh, that changed from from from the last time and uh, you know, that's awesome, jay, because that's exactly what I needed to do. Yeah, as long as I can remain, you know, unfil, unfiltered, unbiased and there was another word, I don't know what the fuck it was, another unword but unfiltered and unbiased, pretty much and just listen and soak these things in and allow other people to share their opinions and beliefs, ask questions. Not make it a, you know, just make it a good, peaceful podcast. It doesn't always have to be peaceful, but a good podcast where people can learn different things. And then, as long as I keep God first, brother, that's it, man. That's all I can do. Everything else will play out.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I'm talking about for your walking life, man doing this stuff for a podcast too, but you know, I actually care about you as a man, right?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah, I know. I want you to always keep your, your mission, your goals, your objective forefront.
Speaker 1:As soon as you stop thinking about what your final objective is, that's when you get sidetracked always see, my final objective is to make it to, uh, my final objective is to raise this young man, um, with with him knowing or at least having an understanding of God, which I'm still working on. And then, secondly, for me to, to meet, to meet my creator, and and and be given um, given a pathway to, to paradise. And you know, if I got to come back here, if he's like, hey, turn around, you're being reincarnated and now your life's going to be a little shittier because you were a dickhead, then I'll, I'll take that and and and start over. But you know, part of me believes in some sort of reincarnation to J, for, for, for, for, for humans, man, and maybe those that have souls.
Speaker 1:You know, maybe we get who knows man, I mean, who knows what God's got in store for us. But I believe that Jesus is my pathway to heaven. But I don't I wouldn't discredit you know other pathways, because it only says it that one time in the Bible, but I don't know man. I also like to play the devil's advocate sometimes and just argue with people strategically just to, just to get the other point, because there's always going to be two points of an argument, or two points to, to a perspective.
Speaker 1:So you know, I don't know, but yeah I love you. Right, you know that it's right wrong, I'm right you're wrong well, dude, it's been, it's been an honor and pleasure man it has, dude, and and let's uh, yeah, we can have these regularly if you want, man, because you're always finding new shit out. You're always on on the search I'm searching man.
Speaker 2:I've been searching since before I met you. I've taken some breaks. I've done some dirty things. That man, I wish I didn't. I'm about as unrefined as you can get. Nobody in the LDS church would suspect that I'm actually one of them. I still haven't been able to get my language under control, but I don't even hear it until it's already out of my mouth half the time.
Speaker 1:It doesn't say anywhere in the Bible, no-transcript. You know it's not like that. That's how it is for military guys, for the most part, you know.
Speaker 2:Dan, I'm glad to hear you speaking more clearly these days. Like I know, you had a real dark spot in your life, not too, long ago. Yeah, and I like the direction you're going. Like, just don't stop trying.
Speaker 1:Nah, I won't. My brother, I will not, and you make sure you stay in touch. All right, absolutely All right, g, I'll talk to you soon, brother.
Speaker 2:All right, Later man.
Speaker 1:Later Bye.