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Navigating Life's Spiritual Waters
Dan welcomes his friend and mentor Cai who shares stories from his recent sailing trip through the Gulf Stream to the Abaco Islands in the Bahamas.
• Dan discusses his recent trip to Florida with his son, including a visit to an animal sanctuary
• Both reflect on seeking peace and purpose away from society's chaos
• Conversation explores how different religions often fight over the same God
• Kai distinguishes between religion (with rules) and spirituality (relationships between spirits)
• Discussion about how organizational corruption affects pure religious messages
• Cai emphasizes helping others as both men share examples of service
• Exploration of Jesus's two commandments: loving God and loving your neighbor
• Cai reframes love as an action word rather than just an emotion
• Discussion about having a two-way relationship with God rather than treating God "like a rich uncle"
• Final wisdom on staying humble: "It's pretty hard to teach a guy something he thinks he already knows"
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with. We're back with the daily american and I got my good friend and kind of like a father figure to me, kai, on the line. Kai reporting from tampa bay, how are you, sir?
Speaker 2:hello dan I'm well thanks and you're doing good happy wednesday to you happy hump day.
Speaker 1:You just got back from a um, from a sailing trip, correct?
Speaker 2:Yeah, it was about 300 miles of slow cruising from Key West to the northeast portion of the Bahamas known as the Abaco Islands, but it was very nice. We were on the Gulf Stream for a couple of days and then entered the Little Bahama Bank, had a nice anchorage at a place called Great Sail Key and another night at Spanish Key and then finally into around the outside Whale Key and down to Marsh Harbor, which is where the boat is, uh, stationed now at the nice marina there was a lovely, lovely experience quiet, wind.
Speaker 2:We did a lot of motoring, but uh, the crew got along well, we ate well and it was very pleasant man, that's awesome just to be out there on the water now.
Speaker 1:The golf stream. You said you so, so what does that mean exactly? You, you get stuck in the in, in the stream of, of the, the gulf of.
Speaker 2:I don't know, explain it well the uh what used to be the gulf of mexico, which is now the gulf of America. Thanks, to. Mr Trump.
Speaker 1:I'm still calling it the Gulf of Mexico, but all my conservative Republican buddies have something to say about it. But you know what? I think it's playing into the same thing the left side does, and I don't like that. But then I find out it's a business decision, so we can drill, drill, baby drill the gulf of mexico.
Speaker 2:I don't know the gulf of whatever? I don't really care, yeah, me neither. The water. The water flows out of there and from the lower, uh, western caribbean, and it pushes warm water up through the Straits of Florida, which are defined by that little body of water between the Florida Keys and the Western Bahamas, and up the coast of Florida to north of Palm Beach and a little bit past there, and then the Gulf Stream eventually meanders out into the open Atlantic between Bermuda and the North American coast and it kind of dissipates over off the coast of Scotland someplace, wow. But, and the water is warm, it's typically about 80 degrees or 78, at least, you know, all year long, even in the, you know, even in the colder Atlantic. And they say that there are actually some palm trees that grow in Scotland as a result of the warm climate that Gulfstream provides as it sort of dumps warm water off the coast. There there's a few palm trees growing, so not coconut palms, but you know, some other subtropical varieties.
Speaker 1:Wow, that's incredible. Yeah, I would love to get out to Scotland. Unfortunately, we missed each other while I had just I just got back from a trip down in your area for a week with with my, my son and his mother, and it was. It was amazing man, it was. It was just great. We stayed in Crystal Lagoon for about five days and then the last two we went off to an animal sanctuary, kai, and it was just like cool man, just like fought, like foxes and wolf dogs and, and you know these beautiful and where was that?
Speaker 1:this was in? Um what road was it? Trail trail, trebilly Road it was called. Oh, I can't even remember. Now my memory's gone Kai, it's short-term memory issues, but.
Speaker 1:I'll get you the name of it, but pretty much it was an animal sanctuary where they, you know, like there was a domesticated deer there that literally, um, you could hand feed there were some very rare sheep like I think there was three out of 12 of them in the entire world of this certain kind of sheep, um, that they were trying to breed there, tons of birds, peacocks, and then, like a undomesticated or, you know, an uncaged peacock, a male one, because the males are the ones that look like super beautiful with all these colors and the females kind of look plain. And I guess that's how they, you know, the, the males, the, the females, attracted to the male with the most feathers and the most colorful, or or what have you but this?
Speaker 1:one this one was, um, was not like part of their sanctuary, but he just hangs out there, uh, with, like the other ones, uh, what other cool horses? Um, you know, it was just, it was just peaceful, it was. It was awesome. We did a little tour of the. It's a small sanctuary, um, and by small I mean probably like a couple acres, but it was cool. They had like a, a couple, um little little houses that you could stay in and it was only like 65 bucks a night man.
Speaker 1:I wish I would have stayed there longer than than staying in in, um, the crystal lagoon or whatever that, that area, but because it's it's less populated and it was just strictly peace. Kai, that's what I'm looking for, that's what I want to do. I, I uh, I'm actually met with the usda afterwards and to try to figure out about some, some farming programs, um, that they they have going on, and I and I start school friday for to learning, like, the basics of farming, because I just want a couple acres and, you know, a few animals and just raise my family on on the piece of a farm, rather than this insane society that we live in. Well, it's not so bad, but you know.
Speaker 2:Well, I wouldn't blame you for that. Give the young ex-Mikey a little experience with nature and regular life. There's plenty of time to be corrupted when people grow older and have access to Internet and all that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, you're certainly right, but overall it was a great trip. Yeah, you're certainly right, but overall it was a great trip. And now I'm just back to work and focusing on heating and air conditioning sales, along with a couple of side projects. I have going on and primarily just focused on raising my son. Things are going really well with his mother and, yeah, I mean I'm super grateful. I just, you know, I still get trapped in my head a lot. You know that's going to happen, but I know how to. You got to take action when that happens. You can't just sit there and and lull away. You got to do something positive and change your thought process and obviously idle hands are the devil's workshop. So I'm working on my mental as well.
Speaker 1:But you know I've learned a lot from you, that's for sure, on your 50, 57 years, or however old you are on this earth 50, 57 years or however old you are on this earth Older than I planned on being, don't forget to make your gratitude list.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I know, I know, I know, and I was going to text you this morning yet, but I have been hitting my knees, though, and saying my prayers every morning and you know, leading Bernadette and little ex Mikey to. You know, he's too young still, but he sees us, you know. We get on our knees, we say a quick prayer and thank him at night.
Speaker 1:And you know I dude, I love that kid so much, so everything's now. Now everything is like is worth it. Now I'm looking back at all the money I blew, but you know I'm not dwelling on it, I just know that you know things are different now and I won't be participating in gambling like a degenerate anymore or drinking like a rabid beast yeah, and just trying to keep my mind straight and one foot in front of the other and trying not to figure out this whole life thing, because I'll tell you what man. You just turn on the news or even have a conversation with a negative person and it's like gosh, just shut the fuck up, you can't get away from it sometimes.
Speaker 2:No, we met with a barrage of it on a daily basis. It's not good for the mentality or the psyche or for our inner spirit.
Speaker 1:Right, but we can, we do have the option to minimize the negativity by changing our environment or turning off the television, or staying off these dumb phones, because, you know, all it is is just junk.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we get fed more of that bad information and all that other crap that we don't need to be exposed to. I've been leaving it alone a little bit. I was checking some headlines earlier. But I look at that little headline and I don't even I can't read even the article behind it anymore. I just don't really care. You know some idiot in Congress is complaining about the other idiot in Congress. You know they idiot in Congress is complaining about the other idiot in Congress and you know they argue like school children and I just don't really care. Yeah, I don't have a life to live and things to do.
Speaker 1:Exactly. I mean I couldn't agree more. You know I got this book. You know I got this book. I am interested in in, in religion as a whole, just because of all the different, all the different religions and how devout some of them are, that they're willing to die in the name of what they think they're dying for, for good causes and fighting other religions. And it's just like I got got this book Religions for Dummies just to like. I haven't even opened it yet because it's like the same, it's almost the same thing, like I'm pretty sure everybody's fighting over the same God.
Speaker 1:And it's just like man has corrupted so much. Man just corrupted. It's crazy. You know money gets involved in organizations and you know rules get made and you follow these rules and you'll go to heaven. And it's like man, all this hogwash. And then there's so many people that are so devout to it and it's like have you ever opened your eyes to like anything else, or your ears in that matter? I don't mean any disrespect to people of certain faiths, but it's just people get stuck in their ways so easily and it's because it's the environment that they're used to their entire lives, just passed down generation to generation.
Speaker 2:Well, you're not wrong about that, and my take on it is God is pure and without fault and defect, man not so much, no. So when man gets involved as the representative, self-appointed representative or salesperson for the one and pure God, there's a pretty good chance that man's character defects are going to get a hold of him, and then that will change how the presentation is made. And so religious wars are not really fought over religion as much at least my take on it is not fought over religion as much as man's character defects, his sense of pride and his greed and his need to be right and you're wrong and all this other crap, and his need to be right and you're wrong and all this other crap. I could never understand how the Catholics and the Protestants were all the time fighting one another. They work out of the same book. There's not much difference.
Speaker 2:Except if you look at history, like in particular in France, and I think it was the 14th or 15th century. You know, the famous Cardinal Richelieu, I think his name was, you know, was trying to cover favor, curry favor with the king and exert his influence, favor with the king and exert his influence, and the uh, the protestants who were known as huguenots. Uh, they were, you know, had their own thing. They were trying to be left alone, but they had their own leadership, and so the conflicts evolved. But it's it's not so much at least my take on it is, it's not so much over my religion's better than your religion, it's just, I want power and I don't want, let you want, to share it with you. So therefore, you know, I'll exert my influence, and that's just what people do. It's always been like that and it always will be.
Speaker 1:Yeah, even man's nature yeah, even dating back to, I guess, yeah, this predates, um, that reform, reformation or whatever the frick it's called. But the roman catholics, and then the eastern orthodox, they, they split off and and, uh, you know, same thing, they didn't want to report to the pope, and and the pope didn't want to share the power, and you know. And then you had—.
Speaker 1:And they're still like that till this day. You know, you got the Roman Catholic Church and then you got the Eastern Orthodox, which traditionally is east right, so east of your.
Speaker 1:Russia and I don't know, probably some other countries. Probably a lot of them were split when the USSR was around. I mean, it's just like I can't even keep up, but there's so many different denominations. Yeah, it's ridiculous. And you know, I just had a.
Speaker 1:My old squad leader came on. He's a, he's a LDS member. He's the least person I would think would join a church period, but you know he's. He's the least person I would think would join a church period, but you know he's a solid dude. But now he's getting involved with the LDS.
Speaker 1:All I know about the LDS is there's the FLDS and then the LDS FLDS. They had a Netflix documentary about the LDS, I guess was the original. I guess this guy, whoever the leader was, you know Jesus visited him in America or in a dream or something and he wrote a book. He was a prophet. But anyhow, they have these promotions on social media of these good-looking chicks that you click, and I told this story on today's podcast that came out. You click them and it's clickbait. But then they knock on your door and my retarded Marine buddy, who you've talked to before, he clicked on it because he's on a search for God as well and he puts my address in because he parks his truck in my driveway and he was there, so he puts my address in.
Speaker 1:Next thing, you know, knock, knock, knock. These two good-looking girls are knocking at my door and I'm thinking, oh, this is great, maybe I'll. No, you know, I was respectful and they gave me the Book of Mormon and you know, they tell you, you know, pray about it and you know, the truth will come to you this, that and the third. But like you know, it's like the mind's a very powerful tool. I'm one to believe that if you pray for anything, you can manifest it through the power of God. And you know, I'm not saying the LDS is right, I don't know anything about the FLDS, except that Netflix documentary where they it's called like Sweet Pray and Obey. It's called like sweet pray and obey. And you know there's there's a big I think the Mormons are known for for a lot of them having these girls said that no, they don't, they don't partake in multiple wives or anything like that, which, hey, I don't see a problem with that. Necessarily Multiple wives, I mean, if anything, that would be a, that would be a good thing for somebody like myself that tends to want more, but as of now I'm content with my son's mother.
Speaker 1:I guess the bottom line is you know, who knows what the truth is about all these different sects, unless you dive in and you live in them. Obviously there are some ones that are, you know, very odd to certain people, but it's the same perception that those participating in it have against another religion. So it's like I don't know man, it's all very, very confusing. I don't know man, it's all very, very confusing. But yeah, I mean, I just believe in myself personally, one God, and I think he's the God of Abraham. Major Abrahamic religions have manifested on their own a way to cause divisiveness and war and hate through man and through corruption and through money and greed and power, just like we're talking about. But what the hell do? I know, I'm just a village idiot Kai.
Speaker 2:Well, the truth is not really knowable, Right? And anybody who thinks they know it are probably not right.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no, that's true.
Speaker 2:We might know it when we die, but we certainly won't know it when we're alive.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so, and then dreams itself. Man, dreams are, are, are, are. Just sometimes I wonder if, if this I know this is going to sound weird, but if this is the dream, and when we're asleep is when you're actually alive.
Speaker 2:Well, I don't worry about it. I try not to get all up in my head about those things and just try to help another human being. Don't drink and go to meetings and clean house. Trust God and help others.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's certainly the philosophy you live by, and it works.
Speaker 1:I'm all about helping other human beings and currently not drinking, thank God, or partaking in any of that nonsense. But I don't, you know, participate in meetings nearly as much as I should. But, like you always say, I know where to find God at meetings and, you know, usually sober-minded people, like-minded people they're all good people. I just sometimes, you know, I think that that's like another, it's almost like another. I know it works and I don't mean any disrespect to to anybody that attends meetings, but I know it works and and I just feel like that's like a whole, that's like another religion, it's like another. You know, it's like another form of of gathering of of people, um, all with a common goal.
Speaker 1:Now, that common goal is a very good common goal, um, but you know, I I think sometimes we all are connected directly to God and following those principles that are key for anything good in your life helping others and reaching out to your hand, whether it's the homeless guy or the addicted man who needs help. And I've been helped in the past and I should do a better job helping people. But I preach hypocrisy. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2:You know the, the, uh, the dream state might be interesting, but you can't really help somebody when we're dreaming we're on the matrix, kai.
Speaker 1:We're trying to get out of the matrix here, trying to escape the matrix, yeah whatever, it's all strange, but it really is.
Speaker 1:but you know wisdom that comes is, but you know wisdom that comes from you, man, you've been doing this for for many more years than than I have, so I take, I take what you say. You know, I always gravitate towards the older gentlemen, no matter where I'm at, because they've lived longer and they have more wisdom and live usually by better principles, because they've made mistakes and have learned from them. And you know.
Speaker 2:Well, the main thing is, when I think about it Dan and you and I have talked about this a little bit previously it's about being spiritual, or having spirituality, as they say, more than being religious. A religion can encourage that, but they're kind of two different things. Religion sort of has rules that goes with it, you know conventional religion and spirituality does not. And what spirituality really is is the relationship between your spirit what's inside of you and my spirit, which is inside of me, or the spirit with any other living breathing human being, between you and ex mikey and and bernadette and uh.
Speaker 2:You know parents, friends, people on the street and how, how our spirits react, inter, interact with one another and how we we help one another. And I've been helped many times by strangers and by people who had no real reason to help me. They were just nice and uh and I try to pass that on now like this young fellow, uh dan came on the sailing trip with him. Dan is 27 or 8 years old and he's never been to the Bahamas before. So I fixed it up so he could go on this trip and helped him with his expenses, because you know he's a young guy, he's got a kind of a regular job. He can't afford to be taking a week off work and buying expensive plane tickets and all that. So I helped him because other people helped me when I was his age and you know we just pass it on.
Speaker 2:And as a result, you know, I feel better about myself, I have a little bit of self-esteem and you know, just being generous to others, yeah, wherever the opportunity presents itself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's awesome that you did that, kai. Yeah, I mean I got to do more of that, but you know I'll help anybody realistically. I mean, my landlord was digging holes and putting up a fence and I happened to be off from work that day and I just said, hey, can I help you? And he's like 77. And you know he's a Greek guy and he's in damn good shape and you know I just helped him. I dug some holes for him. I did whatever I could.
Speaker 1:Anytime I see somebody doing anything physical and if I have free hands, do you need a hand Especially an older lady or gentleman coming out of the grocery store carrying bags, I try to put them before myself. Um, but I don't. I can't say I do it, I do it all the time, um. And then you know I get hit up for money and anytime I can give, I give it, I. They usually all pay me back, so it's not really giving or anything. And then any proceeds from this podcast I do donate to 501C3, combat veteran organizations helping with mental health and stigmas and the DAV, disabled American Veterans.
Speaker 1:I'm going to cut them a check this week for a lifetime membership of veterans. I'm going to cut them a check this week for a lifetime membership. Um, and you know, I, I, but nowhere near is how much I should donate. Oh, according to, I guess you're supposed to give one I don't know what it is one 10th or something, maybe that's what I tell myself 10% to to charities and donations. But I don't, I don't, I don't do that, um, but I definitely give way more than 10% away to, you know, my, my son's mom and and, uh, you know, anybody who really needs, needs help.
Speaker 1:But I don't donate it to organizations.
Speaker 2:No, charity begins at home and we have to take care of your family first. That that's a requirement, and then, after that, you can't be charitable to others at the expense of our family. Yeah, you're right, that's only you know, reasonable, reasonable common sense, yeah, and anyway, the you know this. I was having a conversation last night with one of my AA friends that was over, you know when you were talking about religion. Aa is about a search for an understanding of God, and it's the search that's interesting, interesting. And so I look for clues and I look for experiences and things that might lead me in a direction to begin to understand how this mysterious God power works. Religion never did that for me.
Speaker 2:I went to church when I was a kid and I'm not a thorough Bible reader, but I'm familiar with the usual simple things. You know the Psalms and Revelations and the beginning stuff in it, but those are stories and they have meaning to them. If we dig into it, the search, it's a little more individualized, and so I begin to see how, from my experience, how this, this power has interacted with me and helped me in my life. Some of it has been quite dramatic and miraculous in ways that I wasn't really expecting, and so whatever explanation might be for that in the Bible, I don't know, but it kind of doesn't matter. The point is smooth.
Speaker 2:The deal is that it's clear to me that there exists a power in the universe, a God of my understanding, that is very benevolent and kind and loving and very helpful, but it requires that I do certain things in order to, you know, stay in the relationship. You know, stay in in the relationship. I don't. I try not to treat God like a rich uncle. Treat him more like you know, god needs my help as much as I need his or hers, as the case may be whoever, and so you know. The question then becomes what have I done for God today? Have I, have I done anything to help this kind and loving power source? Or am I just treating God like a rich uncle?
Speaker 1:Right, which many people definitely do. I've probably been, I mean, not a rich uncle, but definitely like just a father figure. I mean, your perspective is pretty unique on God, kai. It always has been. I look at it just as you know. I think that there's I dive deep into it Multiple pathways to heaven, based off of their individual beliefs and how they're living, A little bit of reincarnation, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:But, more importantly, jesus was definitely on this earth, he walked this earth and his message wasn't, you know, organizing all these churches and do all this. He picked sinners or those that were afflicted and, in today's day and age, those that would be looked down upon by society, and he picked those as his disciples. And for those to follow him, that was the church, just his small gathering, and it grew and grew, but then organizations, or just his, his, his small gathering, and it grow and grow, but then organizations, or, or, you know, corruption and money got involved and created. You know, you know Catholicism, but his message was just very, it was very clear, and his two greatest commandments was just to love the Lord, thy God, with all your heart, mind and soul, and love your neighbor, and, and, and you know, that's, that's, that's pretty much what I. I'm really bad at the second part of it, which seems like you're really good at it. So that's probably why we're, you know, we're we, we bounce off each other. But yeah, I mean, those were his two commandments and if everybody did just love their neighbor and then love God I mean realistically what they're or Jesus' message was pure as well, and it's like there wouldn't have been all this nonsense. And you know, unfortunately it's all written and there's a lot more wrath to come from my perspective. But you know, I do see the loving God, but there's also got to be. You know, there's the other side of what's to come, and it's not necessarily God I mean, he is in control of it, but I guess it's because they say we won't turn away from our wicked ways as a society and war against brother against brother and nation against nation, and you know. But what do I know? It could just all be, maybe you're, you're 100 right with it and and I'm 100 wrong, but who? Who the heck knows?
Speaker 1:The point of this podcast is to share unique perspectives on um, on both, and to to open the minds of of people with interesting conversations. Well, that's what we do. That's exactly what we do, kai. I uh, you know it's getting, it's getting late here. If, um, I hit the sack early now, kai, because I I'm up at like I'm crack when I mean crack of dawn, like I'll be up around 3, 30 in the morning I'll I'll do a little reading. I'll first I'll hit my knees, then I'll do a little bit of reading and then I'll work out, um, make like a shake or something, and then work on some side projects and then off to off office. I go for an honest day's work and then, you know, I repeat, but I wanted to ask you if you had a last piece of advice or one last story or anything for the audience. What would it be?
Speaker 2:you think of love as an action word. Okay, the two commandments to love thy God and love your neighbor. Well, is that just an emotional feeling? No or are you performing an act of love? Yeah, and what? Performing an act of love? Yeah, and what would that act of love be?
Speaker 2:Yeah, no, you're right, and so I would say that love is more about behavior than about emotion, sure, and so. So if I'm going to perform an act of love for my neighbor may not need it every day, but if I see him it might be. You know, like you know my, my next door neighbor, I take the trash bins if he's not home and I put his trash bins away. Or, uh, you know, it doesn't have to be your next door neighbor, it could be the neighbor that lives across town. You run into the gas station, open the door for somebody carrying, you know, packages or drinks or something, and be helpful along the way. And the same would be true.
Speaker 2:If I'm gonna love God, then I have to do some action step that would help God and his desires. Yeah, well, you know, what would that be? What have I done for God today? Well, that would be my help. Is you know all powerful and can do everything? Not true, I don't think. I think God needs our help. Yeah, he certainly needs our help in an AA room, that I know for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, there certainly is. Yeah, there's nothing besides good people filled in those rooms.
Speaker 2:Yeah, so you know, people helped me when I went there to get sober and have a better life, and so I need to pass that on and help others who come behind me, and so that would be helping God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's exactly what you do, Kai. So you're on to something, that's for sure.
Speaker 2:And the last part, if you think about it's often talked about having a relationship with God, which is different than just thinking that God's there. Okay, great, but what do I do? Relationships have two people in it. Therefore, if God's doing something for me, I need to do something for God, and that's partly what prayer and meditation where that comes in, because that's a little bit of a conversation. You can't have a good friendship with somebody if you never talk to them, right, yeah, right. So if you talk to somebody and communicate every day and find out what they need and, you know, be helpful along the way, and so it turns out, I think and this is just me that my relationship with my fellows is tantamount to my relationship with God, because my fellows are all of God's children. It would be counterintuitive for me to think that I was all right with God if I was busy being mean to his children or lying, cheating and stealing from them.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But if I'm good to his children when the opportunity presents itself, then there's a fair chance that I will be on good terms with the God of my understanding.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean that makes perfect sense as well, because if you're lie-stealing and cheating from anybody, obviously you're not living by even human standards, let alone God's standards.
Speaker 2:And even if I'm not actively lying, cheating and steal, if I'm just being selfish, you know, and inconsiderate, I don't have time to help that person, I don't know, forget them, I'm just not going to make myself available, whereas the neighbor or the person or fellow citizen or one of God's kids, that means I'm not available to be helpful if I'm too busy thinking about myself and doing self-serving things. So anyway, if you ask for a final comment, I would just say you know, love is about action, and take good, loving actions toward all those that we encounter, even if it's just a simple smile at the checkout lane, and God will be very happy with us.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think so. I agree. I agree with that, Kai, and the search never ends. You know that relationship never ends, Because if we're not searching, then we're not really that interested in. You know, God, If we're not searching right, if we're not trying to figure out, you know the meanings of Scripture, or the meanings of relationships, or the meanings of love, like you just explained. You know, then you know, I don't know, I think the human, and I love your concept on the human relations we got to do both.
Speaker 2:Well, Dan, we know what the wise man said it's pretty hard to teach a guy something he thinks he already knows. So if I think I have all the answers, then don't bother me. Right, and to be kind, and remember that kindness is the language that a blind man can see and a deaf man can hear.
Speaker 1:That's right. Yep, be kind, especially to that's right. Yep, be kind.
Speaker 2:Especially to those less fortunate. Yep.
Speaker 1:Especially to those that are less fortunate, Alright Kai.
Speaker 2:Good talk, Dan. Thank you so very much. Thanks for thinking of me.
Speaker 1:Of course Always I will talk to you soon and thank you for coming on. The Daily American, my friend. Yep, talk to you soon and thank you for coming on. The Daily American, my friend.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, you know.
Speaker 2:I love you and I love your listeners. So there you go.
Speaker 1:You're the man guy. I love you too.
Speaker 2:All right, All the best Dan Thanks.