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Could there actually be Two podcast hosts named Daniel Cianci?
Join us as DC and Daniel Cianci discover each other through a remarkable synchronicity and share their contrasting journeys into podcasting. They explore the psychology behind persistence, quitting, and finding alignment with your true purpose.
• Daniel from the US started his podcast after praying to replace his addiction to gambling
• Daniel from Venezuela began his podcast journey after being inspired by "How I Built This"
• Podcasting serves as a permanent record of conversations, even preserving the voice of a guest who passed away
• 90% of podcasts don't make it past episode 3, and 90% of the remaining don't reach episode 20
• Finding true alignment may mean exploring different channels beyond podcasting
• Both hosts believe in the equality of all people regardless of status or background
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Meeting the Other Daniel Cianci
Speaker 1Daniel Cianci . It's like I'm speaking to myself , Daniel .
Speaker 2The younger version of you .
Speaker 1The younger version . Yeah , that's right . How old are you ? 33 . See if there are other Daniel Cianci's in the world . And there happens to be another Daniel Cianci who is from Venezuela and he currently lives in Houston , texas , and he has a podcast on wisdom . Now , I'm not saying that's my niche , but there's no that you can't make this stuff up , these synchronicities . There's just no chance on God's green earth that this is just by pure pure luck . Now I see Daniel puts out a lot of awesome content . You know he has guests on his podcast as well , and I reached out to him via LinkedIn and we had like an hour long conversation , our first discussion , and this is our second discussion , and we were just getting into .
Speaker 1You know , I personally I hate , I don't hate it , but I dislike podcasting . I sound like a whiny little baby , but I dislike podcasting . I dislike the editing and the monotony of podcasts . I don't even put videos out there like that . I mean , sometimes I'll do some reels . I had a couple before in the past , but it's just not my forte . But he asked me a very simple question . He said well , why did you start podcasting Now , dan ? Yo , Daniel , I've said this in the past . I am a hardcore gambler . I've I've lost a ton of money in the past and before I won a lot of money and lost a lot of money . But before this , five years ago or what have you , it was 2000 and I want to say 2021 or two , yeah , 2021 .
Speaker 1I , I prayed to God to replace the gambling addiction . That's what I did . To replace the gambling addiction . That's what I did . But I couldn't sleep that night and I just clicked record on my phone and started like making jokes and I sent it
Replacing Gambling with Podcasting
Speaker 1to my brother and a couple of people and they said it was pretty funny and I was like I'm going to start a podcast . I'm going to try to do the impossible A grassroots podcast with people that are not well known but have incredible stories . Like every human being has an awesome story . So I couldn't sleep that night . I prayed about it . I couldn't sleep that night and I started the podcast .
Speaker 1But what I just realized as I was saying , that is , I prayed to replace my gambling addiction . I didn't pray to , I didn't pray to , um , I didn't pray to to give me the next best , uh , a business idea or the next best idea . I prayed to simply replace my gambling addiction . I started gambling again after that . Um , currently I'm I'm not actively gambling . I'll probably gamble again . It's not like , but now that I have a son , it's like . It's not as important to me , daniel . So that's why I started .
Speaker 2And why did you start yours ? Okay , so first of all , thank you for sharing that story . I understand , I mean I understand why you lost a lot of money , because when you bet on Philly sports teams , you're going to lose a bunch of money . That is a given . That's on you , my brother , that's on you , I mean yeah .
Speaker 1Well , I'm a Steelers fan but I do like the Sixers and the Flyers and I don't like I don't follow hockey like that , but I like the Flyers . I also like the Penguins . They were a pretty , not a dynasty , but they were very good in in like the past few years . They're always in there . They're always contentious . And then the Eagles . I rooted for him this Super Bowl , but I am not an Eagles fan . I repeat not an .
Speaker 2Eagles fan . I repeat , not an Eagles fan . I think that was your issue . You . You were betting on the wrong team . You know that's . You know haven't done shit in the last whatever . See , see if the longer last . You know Super Bowl , like that 15 years ago . But then also you're betting on the six or six aside Just hey . So you're betting on the Sixers . Sixers are just hey . I mean , I don't . It's almost like you're betting on a big player , that is a . You're going to lose money regardless .
Speaker 1Yeah , you're right , he's a , he's a , he's a , he's a whiny baby . That that doesn't , doesn't you know ? He he's very good , he's a dominant basketball player . But the whole Sixers organization . Some people think that they're tanking again . But you know , currently , daniel , I've been unplugged from sports and the news . Just the past few days I've watched a couple ABC news , like you know , ABC news , but politics , I , I , I my last couple episodes they were heavily in politics , but I , I like to stray away from it . Religion , though I love discussions on on god , or the lack thereof for certain people no for sure .
Speaker 2But uh , yeah , I ,
How I Built This: Podcast Origin Story
Speaker 2I , I , when it comes to sport , I rarely , I mean , I don't watch entire game , I don't have the time , I would just watch a couple highlights or news . Okay , I'm sort of saying I'm aware of what's happening across different leagues , politics . I , just , I , I just don't get into that because to me it feels like because we have a negativity bias , because , uh , because we have a negative bias , because negative views sell more than positive news , because they're trying whether you're left , right , democrat , republican , cnn functions , whatever the case may be , you know every , every media outlet out there is going to angle it in a negative way , because that's how they get clickbait , that's how they get , I mean , like , viewers . And the more you at least on my personal opinion , the more you fill yourself or your brain with negative news . That's how you're going to see the world anyway . So to me it's like I don't want that to start affecting my life . I see a lot of miserable people just being extremely triggered . Or if Trump does something , or if Kamala does something , or if Biden or whatever , like okay , whatever they do , it's not truly going to affect you that much . I come from a third world country . Whatever they , they did , those politicians or or or just corrupt people were doing were affecting us . But when you're in a foreign country , but what those people do , it's like your life is not going to change that much . Sure , the price of eggs are higher ? Uh , people , people are not making enough money to pay the bills . That's going to happen , and that is beyond who's sitting in a at the position chair .
Speaker 2Having said that , just that , I went sort of on a tangent . But going back to your initial questions and why I started out , why did I start my podcast ? You said to me years and years ago probably 2017 , 2018 I was listening to a podcast for the first time called how I built this . They interview entrepreneurs . What ?
Speaker 1was it calling them ? What was it called daniel ? How I built this . I built this .
Speaker 2Okay , okay , okay how I built this and and this guy is an amazing interviewer , amazing storyteller he has interviewed the founders of software . So boston beer company , if they see , if they see impetus chips and my cuban and Stacey Impetuships , and Mike Cuban and Liquid Deck all these amazing entrepreneurs and he has shared their stories and how they built such empires . Anyhow , the whole purpose of me listening to the podcast was to hopefully get a business idea and after binging like 30 , 40 episodes , I did not get a single business idea , which is like , okay , this kind of sucks because I didn't get any . But I gained a new love and appreciation for storytelling , for listening to people's stories . So it came out it would be cool if one day I do a podcast , or just as a hobby . It wasn't something that as important . It wasn't something that , oh , it's going to be my last name or it's going to be on my bucket list . To me it was hey , if it happens , awesome , if it doesn't , you know no big deal .
Speaker 2Fast forward a few years later to 2023, . I went through some shit in my life and that point my intuition was telling me now this is the right time to pursue that and I have such an incredible clarity for the first time in my life of what I wanted to do with my life and what direction I should take , and that's what I ended up doing . That's what I did . That's what I started . Hey , I did some research . I'm going to give myself four or five months to do as much research as I can to start building a website , to start building the entire all the foundations that I needed to launch a podcast .
Speaker 2And first week of 2004 , I launched the first episode and then I've been doing every week ever since . But I had to sit with an idea in 2022 and ask myself do I truly want to do this ? If this is my question , I think it's intuition or desire . Is this desire because it looks easy ? People are making money out of it not everyone very few , by the way but it's because it looks cool ? Or it's something deeper than my body , or my higher self however you want to call it is telling me to pursue that , like I said , for two weeks or four weeks , without idea , without thought . It's like you know what . This is what I want to pursue , because when I didn't know anything about podcasts , I found it fascinating , so that's how I got to .
Speaker 1Wow , man , yeah , dude , that's phenomenal . And Daniel , you're doing things , um , you know you're going , you're , you're , you're giving it , so , so this is , uh , I think these are where some points , some some focal points , where our podcasts , obviously the grand theme , right , having conversations with people and explaining , um , you know how they're doing what they're doing , or just about life general . See , you do all this research , you did research before you started the podcast , you're , you know some analytics about podcasts . You're like , you know what the heck you're doing , you , you , you give it a hundred percent , um , effort , daniel , see , I , uh , I must admit that that that I , I , I have , I have asked it , um , I must admit that I half-ass it , I cut corners and I half-ass it and it's really not currently it's not having my son being a father .
Speaker 1Being his dad is my number one goal , my number one priority , and I love it , I love it , I can , I love it , I can't wait till the little guy starts talking and stuff like that . As far as , like , work , things go with me , it's very
The Decision to Quit or Continue
Speaker 1rarely can I say like I enjoy it so much . I love it . Now , it's not necessarily work , I have made money off of it , it , but that's not the end , all be all either .
Speaker 1My biggest thing is I have a problem quitting like I just want to . I just want to . I want to just like quit but the bot , but . But I have a problem with that , even if I know that if I give it all my effort and energy it's going to make it . It's going going to be one of the top podcasts in the world , which essentially it already is , compared to most podcasters . But it's like I don't , I don't care that much about , about the limelight or the podcast , but I do think that my perspective is better than most .
Speaker 1But you know , our podcasts are very similar . It's just you , you're going all in on yours . You know our podcasts are very similar . It's just you , you're going all in on yours . Um , and you know , give me break out some analytics from your research , cause I know you know you know about the podcast game . So , cause , last time we talked , the first , the first and only other time we spoke , you you had some analytics about it , about like , so how many , how many people quit after , like you know , a couple episodes or whatever . So that's my problem I can't quit , I want to quit .
Speaker 2But I can't Okay , let me ask you this . Let me ask you this who made the rule ? Who made the rule that you cannot quit ?
Speaker 1You know , I just feel like such a little or a pussy .
Speaker 2I shouldn't care , but yes .
Speaker 1I feel like that .
Speaker 2But why ? Okay ? So now and this is fascinating , by the way I'm going to ask this question because I'm a very curious person . Clearly , that is attached to a story , right , if I quit , I'm a bitch , I'm a pussy , I'm a loser , I'm you know , fill in the blank . But at the end of the day , that's a story , a story that probably was created in childhood . Childhood and you were not aware , like many , like most of us it's not every single person out there is not aware of these stories being created in childhood . Stories , at the end of the day , were created by our brains to give a meaning , to help us understand a situation . But those stories are not necessarily true anymore and we do have the power of rewriting the story . But the question that I would ask is why do you feel that you will be like that , called a loser , called a bitch , called however you want to call it , if you quit ?
Speaker 1Because , you know , the whole podcast itself is basically overcoming , like , persevering , and overcoming , um obstacles , and one obstacle that that I have is myself . It's my biggest obstacle , it's it's everybody's biggest obstacle is the man in the mirror . So , you know , I'm out here getting people to come on and share their stories and talk , and then here on a podcast about persevering , and then here I am just quitting , but it's not because I don't respect or love their stories and talking with people like yourself or myself , since you and I are pretty much the same , different humans , but same name and same podcasts we're dealing with here . But I don't know , and not the fear of judgment so much , but the fear of I , the feeling I would get if it became like number one or something would be awesome or something would be would be awesome because I know that it was . You know , although I don't I don't do all the research and do all the things that a professional may do I , I still think just making it and and and and making it to the top would would , would you know , prove everybody that ever doubted me , um , all the naysayers and and non-supporting people , prove them wrong . Um , and also , like , not make a joke out of myself after doing it for almost five years and then stopping , and you know , I don't know obviously if if it made it to the top .
Speaker 1It is a shit ton of money and I know I want to say , like donate a lot of it , but currently I I don't do enough donating or or or helping those less fortunate , so I tend to to run um for , for for veterans . I tend to to when I can donate to , to smaller non-profits for veterans , so I'd be able , when I can donate to smaller nonprofits for veterans , so I'd be able to do that with a lot more money . So there's self-interest involved , but it's all ego and that's pretty much it . And the cool thing about podcasting is it's like a journal , right for people . The cool thing about podcasting is it's like a like a journal right For people . So if one of one of the guests died on my , on my podcast , he of terminal brain cancer and you know his story is there for anybody that was close to him to hear his voice and and and hear us joking around and and stuff like that , you know . So it's something that lasts forever if it's active or if it keeps .
Speaker 1I don't know what happens if I just stop podcasting and stop paying the Buzzsprout subscription fee . I wonder if the podcasts stay on there , but I think that's one of the benefits of it . I don't know , daniel , I don't know where I'm at with it . I think that's one of the benefits of it . I don't know , daniel , I don't know where I'm at with it . 70% of me right now just wants to fold up shop , walk away , and 29% of me I don't really know what to do . But 1% of me is saying keep going .
Speaker 2Don't be a quitter , you know . I think it's interesting and fascinating because you started by saying that you started a podcast just to overcome your addiction of gambling . And one thing I learned about addictions is I don't think we truly overcome addiction . We just change addictions to something . You know how it could be working out . It could be hiking , it could be running , could be anything else . However , however , and and and . We just pick healthier addictions , I guess . But for you , by the way , I have . I have started business in the past . I've tried other things , I've had half it and then I've quit .
Speaker 1In the past , in fact , in my mind , Wait , you did half-ass it or you never did half-ass it . You never half-assed .
Speaker 2With other businesses . No , I have . Yes , I have half-assed it . And then I realized , and I realized , and I realized that they were not truly aligned with what I'm looking for . See , we , and that's why I stopped myself and I wanted to ask myself the question am I doing , truly wanna do this ?
Podcasting Statistics and Perseverance
Speaker 2Because we , as humans , we tend to go after the shiny object . I'm not saying that , that's what you did . But then we see people making a good living or doing something where they eat , just like drop shipping or crypto or Amazon , you know , like FBA and things like that , and we just want to make money . And then when we jump into it and then we start doing it , it's like okay , shit , I don't even like this thing . And then you sort of have to ask it because you're not involved emotionally and passionately for that specific thing . And it doesn't mean that if you quit you're a quitter , it just means that the passion or the true alignment I don't know if podcasting is aligned with you To me , in my personal experience , or at least in my podcast journey , I've done it for a while and I've done it without getting any results , without making any money , with having very little growth in the last whatever , uh , 15 months , I still go for it because it is , once again , it is aligned and I have like a the clear , clear vision .
Speaker 2But what I'm trying to say with this like maybe , maybe I'm not , I'm not 100% sure about this the only person , the only person that could , the only person that can answer this question is you . It's like , okay , I understand that doing something like quitting might have a very significant impact on you , on the ego that is normal , we are all humans , right but it's almost like you can just reframe it Instead of saying , hey , I don't want to quit because I'll be a quitter , well , maybe I should stop doing this and I'll find something that aligns more with what I want to pursue and aligns more with what I want to achieve . I'm not saying that you don't want to achieve success on podcast . I'm not saying that , but probably because it's important to me . I would love to achieve success on many different areas , but then which one aligns better with me ?
Speaker 2And not only with the values , but mostly with your internal self , I guess . And once you find that , then it's so much easier to stick to it , even though you have been doing it for five years . I mean , that is endurance . And if you were asking me earlier what the numbers are , 90% of the podcasts . According to some you know numbers out there 90% of the podcasts don't pass episode three and of the 10% remaining , 90% of them don't pass episode 20 .
Speaker 1So if you have- Wait , don't pass which one . Don't pass what ? Episode 20 . Damn Okay .
Speaker 2So by you having 21 episodes , you are in the top 1% of all the podcasts . In the future of podcasts Now I don't know how updated those numbers are Podcasts can have , you know , like just well , it's just , there's so many podcasts out there now , but it could be still relatively to that . I know a few people who sort of started a podcast because , again , a lot of a lot of people see the new shining object oh , I would just sit with my buddies or with my friends , I'll have a nice conversation , we're going to have a great time , we're going to go viral and then we're going to make money . It is not like that . Some people might need , you know , that luck , but for the large , large , large majority from the probably 99.8 percent of people or just podcast , it's not going to be like that .
Speaker 2So the fact that you've been doing it for five years talked a lot about the , the endurance and the consistency . But at the same time , the endurance and the consistency but at the same time , when you say that you can only enjoy the conversations to some extent , we all enjoy conversations because we are social species . We like to connect to others . But if you don't truly , if you don't enjoy at all , like zero , like , hey , I hate this or I extremely dislike doing everything else . Probably podcasting , no , might be , might not be the thing for you , but you're the only one that can truly answer that question yeah , you're right .
Speaker 1I mean yeah , I mean that's pretty much . Yeah , that's pretty much where I'm at , daniel I . I mean it just doesn't align with who I am . But then I think , well , does God want me to continue Because he understands that my perspective is is more unique ? Or I do think that my perspective on things and my , my open mindfulness and and my ability to articulate things although I am very uneducated on many things , I think that I can speak to a bunch of different people from a bunch of different cultures and not sound like a complete jag on . But , who knows , man , I mean , why do you ? Why do you so ? So so now , so
Finding Your True Alignment
Speaker 1now that , how many years are you in ?
Speaker 2okay . So before I answer that , you can still deliver your message , but it might tell it might be not through podcast , it could be a blog , it could be just writing articles . It could be not through podcasting . It could be a blog , it could be just writing articles , it could be writing a book , it could be giving speeches . I mean , if you feel that you have a unique message and a unique perspective because we all have a unique perspective whether yours aligns more with what people need to hear or what people need to know , podcasting is just one avenue . You have so many different other avenues that you can exploit or at least explore and see which one aligns more with your lifestyle , with who you are as a person .
Speaker 1But then I mean there are limitless possibilities to what you can do with your , but eventually , Daniel , the , the easiest method to reach as many people would be would be podcasting it to spread a message . But I really , more so than spreading a message , I think it's more so like just my ability I'm not just my ability to communicate and listen , listen to to others and and hear their message without without , like you know , although I have my values and my views . I would invite them on the daily American because I , the daily American , I mean I believe we all do have that one , Um , we all have one , we're all one . I mean , no man is better than another the homeless guy or Donald Trump or Joe Biden , Um , and the janitor . We are all equal in the eyes of the man upstairs .