Edmund Sheinall Lucas III

Twenty years of infantry service doesn’t just end the day you retire, it echoes in how you see people, danger, and freedom. I sit down with Lucas, a recently retired Army infantryman with three combat tours, to talk about where he came from, what the Army took from him, and what it gave back. He opens up about growing up mixed race in Rochester, New York, living in a mostly Black neighborhood with his White mother, and learning to keep his head down, grow up fast, and build grit without a father in the home until he’s 19.

From there we move into the veteran transition that so many listeners think about but rarely hear explained clearly: Lucas’s jump into private security as a 1099 contractor. We dig into the nuts and bolts of executive protection, how travel details and shifts can work, what clients often cover, and why the lack of a federal armed security license forces professionals to get certified state by state. Lucas also shares why he’s heading to Covered 6 Academy in California to earn executive protection training and a California guard card, plus why he’s targeting tougher states like California and New York to become more marketable.

We don’t stay purely tactical. The conversation turns to political violence and division, then into a challenging idea about racism: how stereotypes get passed down, and whether the way we talk about race can unintentionally keep people sorting each other by skin color instead of character. We also tackle DEI and merit based hiring, focusing on standards, competence, and what “qualified” should mean in high trust work.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_02 0:00

That's cool. Hey, we got the brother Lucas on the my brother Lucas on the on the on the call on the Daily American Podcast. Welcome, Lucas. Congratulations on uh 20 plus years as a grunt in uh in the army. Uh

Meeting Lucas And Army Career

SPEAKER_02 0:17

what's going on today, man? How you doing?

SPEAKER_01 0:19

I'm doing well. Thank you, Dan, for having me on the uh on the show. Um yeah, everything is everything is going smooth in my life right now, and I'm blessed. Uh as you sadly had 20 20 years of service in the army as an infantryman. Um started that journey 2005. Enlisted out of Rochester, New York. Uh since then it's been up and down. I mean, as you know, you with your time in, there was it was up, there were some ups, and there was a lot of downs, too, you know. Um, yeah, we but three combat tours. I met you on my second one. Uh let's see. Finished up my uh my career in at Fort Hood. Uh that actually January. So I got out a couple months ago, man.

SPEAKER_02 1:05

Yeah, man. Congratulations for collection. Well deserved, man. I'm glad I'm glad life's uh giving you all its blessings because uh you know you just just a man of honor, dude. Just an awesome dude to to know, and I'm grateful. Uh I'm grateful we're gonna have this conversation today, and I'm grateful we've remained uh, you know, we're not best buds, but we're certainly fucking, you're always there if I call, and God willing, I'll always be there when you call, and vice versa. But uh, yo, kick it off with your childhood a little bit, Luke, because I don't know shit about your childhood. Uh what was life like growing up?

SPEAKER_01 1:38

Oh, oh life for me was a little rough. So um, so I'm I'm black and white, and I lived in a in a mostly black neighborhood,

Growing Up Mixed In Rochester

SPEAKER_01 1:48

and I grew up with my my white mother, and so being mixed uh in that in that world back in 80s and 90s, it was a little difficult. So it wasn't like you know I fit in with any particular group. Um, so the neighborhood was a little rough on me. Uh my father wasn't in the picture until I was 19. And uh yeah, I just had to keep my head low until I, you know, until I moved out of the neighborhood. But uh I I would have to say, like, my mom, she did her best. Like, even though I didn't have a father around, she she played catch with me, um, taught me how to tie a tie. She she tried to provide as best as she could. And we have a I had uh an older brother and sister, uh, and then two younger sisters. So it was it was a little rough um financially. Um and uh when it could I mean having a dad around would have been great, but I am the man I am today because he wasn't around, if that makes sense. And we had some great leaders like TK and uh Merrill and some of those other squad leaders that we served with, they they taught me some things as well. So yeah, man, that's any regrets.

SPEAKER_02 3:08

Yeah, dude, you were the man of the house. You uh you grew up fast, dude, without without having your dad active until 19 years old. Um it's gotta be tough for anybody, but you know, what you didn't learn when you were a child, which I'm sure you learned a shit ton. Um you learn from the leaders, leaders in the military. Uh yo, now your son. How old's your son? 18, 17?

SPEAKER_01 3:33

He's uh he just turned 19 a couple months ago. 19. He picked up the torch.

SPEAKER_02 3:40

I saw you pin the the blue cord on him, and that's pretty awesome. That's gotta that's gotta mean a lot to you, dude. It does. Um is he your firstborn? Is he your firstborn?

SPEAKER_01 3:51

He's my firstborn, yes.

SPEAKER_02 3:53

Damn, dude. Is he a junior?

SPEAKER_01 3:55

He's uh he's the fourth.

SPEAKER_02 3:58

Damn. So you're the third. You're Edmund Lucas the third.

SPEAKER_01 4:02

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_02 4:03

What's your milk name? Bartology?

SPEAKER_01 4:11

It's uh it's Sheenel. Uh what is it? That's pretty cool. What is it? Yeah, she Sheenel.

SPEAKER_02 4:17

Sheenel, that's awesome, dude. That's unique. You're definitely the only your family are the only Edmund Sheenel Lucases, probably in the world, I would assume.

SPEAKER_01 4:27

Uh, that's a good that's a good guess. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_02 4:31

Yeah, I would say so. It's Sheenel. Sheenel's unique, dude. Sheenel's pretty awesome.

unknown 4:36

Sheenel.

SPEAKER_01 4:37

Yeah, it came from a uh African-American painter that settled somewhere in Texas. So that's the only history I know about it. It's from my grandma, my grandma told me that story.

SPEAKER_02 4:51

And that's your dad's side.

SPEAKER_01 4:53

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 4:54

Gotcha, gotcha. Now, is your mom still back in Rochester?

SPEAKER_01 4:58

Um, after 2003, she wound up moving down to Florida. Uh, she looked, there was a couple locations down there, Fort Jack or was it Fort Jackson?

SPEAKER_02 5:10

Where in Florida? Jacksonville, sorry. Yeah, Jacksonville, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:15

Fort My Fort Meyer. Yeah, Fort Meyer.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:18

It's Fort Meyer, Jacksonville, and Bradington. So she was kind of all over the place. Um, my older brother wound up living down there for probably 20 years in Orlando. But then she recently moved a couple years ago to Mississippi, Macomb.

SPEAKER_02 5:35

Wow, that's cool. A little bit of all uh, you know, northeast, down south, and then all she's got to do is make is Mississippi out west or no?

SPEAKER_01 5:45

No. Mississippi is east of me, wet kind of west of you.

SPEAKER_02 5:48

Okay, southwest, of course. Guy, all she needs to do is live on the west coast, and she'll get a taste of all uh all the United States, you know what I mean? Of the country, yeah. Shit, you've lived everywhere as well, dude. You've lived that's true. Korea, Germany, right? Uh Korea. Oh, you weren't in Germany? Okay. Okay. I've been here a couple of times. Oh, you've been oh, that's right. I think you were there one point we were talking, and you were there, so I thought you were stationed there, but I guess not. Anyhow, what's life up to now, Lucas? So now you're 20 years, freaking you're 39 or 40. How old are you?

SPEAKER_01 6:29

I am 40. I was a little late joining the army. Um, had a little little trouble with the law, but uh pushed through that, and I joined at 20. But yeah, I'm 40.

Retirement And Private Security Freedom

SPEAKER_01 6:41

I am in private security, and that's been that's a new world. I'm not I've that I didn't even know even a percentage of this world uh up until maybe a month ago. So this this has been a unique journey for me. Uh because of the retirement that I receive and the extra money from this this second career. Uh I'm I'm blessed.

SPEAKER_02 7:11

Shit, dude. That's awesome. And you're not and you're not grinding like, well, I don't know, you could be, you're not grinding like strenuously on a daily basis anymore. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 7:22

Yeah, and uh the beauty about the private security world, I'm a 1099. So basically, I create my own schedule in a way. So if there's a a gig that comes up, like, hey, we need you to pull security, you know, as a bodyguard for this person. Are you in? It's only two days. I can say yes, I can say no. And it doesn't, and there's no penalty against me. So I I I I pick up gigs as I want, and I tell people I can't work if I just don't want to work.

SPEAKER_02 7:53

Yeah, it's freedom, dude. Ultimate freedom. You're yeah, and you deserve it, dude. You have ultimate freedom right now. You know what I mean? Uh now you don't feel like working today. No, I actually just want to go to the gym and take a bike ride and hang out with my my kids. I don't feel like uh I don't feel like doing it today, and and it's not gonna like I mean you're already you're retired. You put in your time, so you're essentially set for you're set for life, dude. I mean, you know, you're not or you're not multi-millionaire, but who it doesn't matter. You have all your needs met and and you've earned it, and uh God bless you, dude. Now, dude, when you're doing over say you got a guy, say, you know, um Senator Schmidt. I just made that up. Senator Schmidt wants you to pull security for him for a week straight. Um, are you staying where they're staying in in say a hotel? Um you know how how how extensive does it get? Are you paid for overnight?

SPEAKER_01 8:54

So basically, for in that situation, I haven't I haven't dealt with a situation like that, but based on everything I know, you would get paid probably a 12-hour shift if it if it entails like leaving say the Austin area, right? Maybe this the senator or whoever is from Austin and I live in Austin, then it's and it'd be easy just to go back home. But say say this person traveled to Dallas or um El Paso, then and they needed a team there 24 hours. So I would get paid for 12 hours and I'd have downtime, and we have these just we'd have shifts, or we just do eight-hour shifts, and then we just stay in that location for you know the seven days that you that you mentioned, and we rotate through, and then we come back home. Now, hotels should be paid for, especially if it's a travel uh contract, transportation in in hotel would be paid for.

SPEAKER_02 9:59

Damn, dude, that's pretty sweet. Now uh it seems like I mean, I guess the Secret Service are doing their jobs, but another another Trump assassination um this past week. I mean, how does this how does this keep happening?

Political Violence And National Division

SPEAKER_01 10:18

Well, I I haven't looked more into that specific uh incident, but I I just I think that as a country we we're we're going backwards. We're not we're not progressing, we're not moving forward. Uh there's there's a lot of hate. And it's not I mean obviously it's just it's political hate. It's the it's the rhetoric that's being uh spewed on both sides that create tension and create this this hate. Um this is like the first time I I've ever read about or heard about where multiple attempts on a president's life within, I mean, what when it when was when was Butler, Pennsylvania? That was what right before the election.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

So yeah, like a couple years ago. Yep.

SPEAKER_01 11:12

Yeah. So that it just to me that's crazy that we've we've come to this point in our in our country that we we fought for freedom. Like you can talk about things you don't like, but that doesn't mean you have to force people to like them.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Right, exactly. Yeah, that's one of the biggest problems. I think it's very deliberate, though. They um, you know, they want divide between between races, between everything, socioeconomic classes, because you know that hate and and violence and it it essentially, you know, it gets attention, right? And these these people want attention and they want control. It also controls if you can get a group of people to really hate each other, um you're controlling them. So, you know, there's really nothing there's nothing like that any one person can do about it. You just gotta try to spread love more. Love, you know, have have an immediate impact on your local environment. And uh, you know, I get it. Like there's there's hate and and and sometimes race has a lot to do with it, like like race is deliberate or or not how do I say this? Race plays a part too in in regards to this, like your grandfather, people's grandfathers, like uh, for instance, my dad growing up couldn't didn't like uh until he was much older, he didn't like black people. I don't know why, but my but I know my grandmother, his adopted mom, wouldn't let like black people in the house. Um I remember at a very young age, she was like chasing a Mormon around the house with a broom and screaming all sorts of like profanities because you know he he was he was allowed in the house by like my brother or something. Um bottom line is that all gets passed down generation to generation. So eventually it comes to a point where you gotta put an end to it. You gotta you you gotta just stop it rather than carry on certain traditions or certain stereotypes that get passed down. Like that that's how hate that's how hate exists. For instance, if if you have an encounter, a bad encounter with a Chinese guy, you did work on their property, you have a horrible encounter with them, and now you think, oh, all Chinese people are cheap, they're ignorant, and they're the worst customers ever. So I'm done doing business with Chinese people. Like you can't take that one instance from that one human being and and utilize that to carry on your beliefs about an entire culture or an entire group of people. It's just like it, it's it's in you know, it I don't know if I'm explaining this correctly, but that's how it's like broken down, you know what I mean? That's how it's like broken down, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:14

Um, and Morgan Freeman, I I there's something going around for many years that he I'm I'm maybe misquoting paraphrasing here though, uh, just don't talk about racism. Um what I got from that is that that's true, true, true, true. Back to your your family, for instance, your grandmother hating or or demonstrating you know those those uh reasons of don't want a black person over or whatever the case was, and then your your father seeing that or hearing it right now. Imagine if your grandmother kept that to herself, didn't say anything about it, right? Your dad probably would have had a different outcome growing up towards other people.

SPEAKER_02 15:02

Yeah, true, true, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 15:04

So if we stop talking about it, because let's keep it real, we've been talking about and bringing awareness to racism for how long now? Since the beginning of the civil rights movement, and there's still hate.

SPEAKER_02 15:20

That's a good point. I never even thought about that, dude.

SPEAKER_01 15:24

I don't think there's I don't think hate is increased when it comes to race. I think it's just it's it's there. I think honestly, there's more uh more love in in the communities for other races than there was back in the 50s, for instance. But if we continue to talk about it, you're not you're not shedding any new light.

SPEAKER_02 15:52

Right, all it does is spread, it's just spreading more.

SPEAKER_01 15:55

It just it teaches our youth that there is a difference because of skin color, and there should never be a it should be based on individuals, like you said when you brought up the um the example with uh a Chinese man. Like if it's a person that's being a bad customer or a bad um uh contract worker or whatever, it's the individual, it's that last name, first name and last name, yeah, who's the problem, not not the community the person comes from. And that's what we need to teach is not is not let's not talk about race anymore. Let's talk about responsibilities of individuals. Has no has no impact on a community, just has an impact on the individual uh transaction between you know just between two people.

SPEAKER_02 16:47

Like that's actually I've never I mean I've been around for 36

Stop Talking Race And Judge Individuals

SPEAKER_02 16:52

seven years. I've never I've never even thought about that. Um I never even thought about that. Like that, like addressing it or or talking about it is essentially kind of like spreading it, right? It's just like damn, dude, that's fucking brilliant.

SPEAKER_01 17:09

Like if if you if you label we'll just take a tip, like one of those stereotypes out there, uh black people like watermelon. All right, if you keep talking about black people liking watermelon, everyone's gonna look at black people like, oh, you like watermelon, right? Like it has been for a while. Now, if you say people like watermelon, now I'm gonna assume every person on planet earth likes watermelon, right? If you say if you say Edmund likes watermelon, now we know who likes watermelon, specifically one person, Edmund.

SPEAKER_00 17:44

Yeah, yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_01 17:46

Change how we talk, change how we talk. That's all it is. Now, I it's great to say that will it ever happen? Can we ever get people to just never talk about it again? No, right, not in a perfect world. Uh, not even in a perfect world, would that even work? Because there's gonna be somebody out there that's gonna say something and continue to grow, but that's how that's how I view it. If if you really want to get rid of racism completely, you would just stop talking about it, right? Because talking about it is it keeps spreading, it just keeps educating folks to you know see the difference in people based on skin color and not the character of their uh of individuals.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Yeah, yeah. I mean that definitely that's definitely a unique perspective. I guess one one I was thinking about it while you were talking about, I guess one downfall would be like, all right, well, then if it's never addressed, then how do we I guess we're not living in like you said, we're not living in the 50s or 60s, or segregation's not a thing anymore, but how would that have ever been addressed if if everybody took the just it doesn't exist, it's it's not a thing, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_01 18:58

Well, and I get what you're saying. Like, obviously, there was a problem. They addressed the problem. Yeah, tell me tell me what you can do today that I can't do as as a black man, right?

SPEAKER_02 19:09

That that's one thing I agree with, especially can we both vote? Yeah, everything.

SPEAKER_01 19:15

Okay. Can you buy a house? Can I buy a house? Should I own a house? So, like, yes, there's nothing that can stop me today by law because of the color of my skin.

SPEAKER_02 19:28

Yeah, I agree with that 100%. There that that aspect, if anything, like there's certain um, I mean, I guess that was like the whole DEI thing. There were certain like um qualifications or like, you know, for anything. Like, just because somebody's homosexual

DEI And Merit Based Hiring

SPEAKER_02 19:50

doesn't mean that if everything's the same across the board, or not, no, I'm sorry, if if candidate A has an ability to do the job a little bit better, and candidate B does not have the same qualifications or ability to fulfill the job, but they are homosexual, we gotta go in. Right, right.

SPEAKER_01 20:22

Yeah, I don't agree with DEI because of that. I think you should be working in a job, and your employer should be picking people of higher quality for more efficiency. Agree. Because imagine, imagine you have a job, you have a business, right, and you need 25% whatever, 25, 25, and then that's it, right? And you're uh you're in some type of manufacturing company, but you're but you've noticed since you added the EI, like production has gone down. Well, what do you do? You know that you hired underqualified individuals because you're not keeping a high standard. So what do you do then? You know, do you just continue to suffer because you're a large company and you know some people think that big companies should make money? Because it's America. Like, if you want to make money, make as much money as you as you want. Because that's the freedom of that in the in this country. But I don't know. I I think I I I value the the quality of work that comes out of all places of employment over statistics and uh representing different groups of people.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

Yeah, whoever's um whoever's most qualified. I mean, that's how you're gonna have the strongest workforce. It's based off of actual like qualifications and education. So Yeah, well, they did away with that anyway. I th I think the administration did away with DEI and all that all that nonsense anyhow.

SPEAKER_01 22:05

There was within the first month of administration taking over, yes. But there are some companies that still practice DEI.

SPEAKER_02 22:15

So But it's not necessarily federally mandatory at this point.

SPEAKER_01 22:20

No, there's private companies, yeah. There's just some private companies that still that still practice DEI.

SPEAKER_02 22:28

Gotcha. What's on the road? Um a little bit later conversation. What's on the so so you're about to help on the road? Where where are you going?

SPEAKER_01 22:35

Oh, yes. Uh so today uh I will be going to Covered Six Academy in California. Uh, this academy specializes in

Executive Protection Training And Licensing

SPEAKER_01 22:46

security work, uh security training and certifications. I'm gonna be taking their executive protection five-week resident course. Um, this is gonna help me be a little bit more marketable here in Texas as an EP officer. Uh, it will give me my certification for uh uh the guard card to be a bodyguard and to operate in California under their state laws. For instance, um, say you're our client, Dan, and you live here in Austin. Well, you want to travel to California for a week. The company I work for, Company A, for instance, they say, all right, we can do this, but we're gonna have to subcontract your needs to another company in California. But say, say, Dan, you and I have a good relationship, and you you like my my skills as a as your as your bodyguard.

SPEAKER_02 23:47

I love your skills as a bodyguard and your act. I love your skills as a bodyguard and uh and like your ability to to speak. You're really well spoken.

SPEAKER_01 23:59

Thank you, Dan. So go ahead and so I can only go over there as an advisor and stay stay close to you, but I can I won't be I won't be operating in an armed capacity. I will not operate as a bodyguard, I'm just an advisor or an observer.

SPEAKER_02 24:18

You can do that now, clearly, but but but with this new license.

SPEAKER_01 24:23

Correct. I will be armed and I will be your bodyguard if you traveled, you know, if you traveled to California.

SPEAKER_02 24:30

Now, how do you get one? How do you get one? How do you get a federal armed security license, bro? There's not. There is none. There's none. So that's that's that keeps the market competitive.

SPEAKER_01 24:43

Yeah, that's the problem in right now, is that you pe if people want to operate outside of their state, they have to go to each state and take the course, get the fingerprints taken, do the background check, and apply through each each state.

SPEAKER_02 25:01

Now, is that the act is in Pennsylvania it's called Act 120. It's like a week-long arm security course where you very basic stuff, small arms.

SPEAKER_00 25:14

Right.

SPEAKER_02 25:15

Very, very basic, nothing like personal protection, not in that arena. You can't karate chop anybody and and take the weapon from, right? Any cool shit like that.

SPEAKER_01 25:26

No, there's no, there's there's really not a course out there that will teach you the karate chop uh in in the ep world. But that would be that would be pretty dope. If if you and I get into this the realm of training ep in any city, either Pennsylvania or here in Texas, we're gonna teach people how to karate chop and take guns.

SPEAKER_02 25:47

All right, so dude, federally, so you cannot so so that means locally the competition it keeps the market open at the state level, right? Because if you have a federal company that's got a ton of money, right? Some ex CIA guy, he can have a federal company with a thousand EP guys and control the entire market.

SPEAKER_00 26:11

Correct.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

But here, it the way the states do it, it's kind of cool. You got to get certified through each state. But California is, I mean, you know, common sense would lead you to, I mean, there's wealthy people everywhere. Um, but California with Hollywood there, it's a good state to perform security duties in, right?

SPEAKER_01 26:38

Absolutely. So California, we all know Hollywood and Beverly Hills and the rich and famous. So that is that is why I chose California to be my first uh out of state uh certification and licensing for this world. Uh my second state that I'm gonna try to achieve uh the same credentials is New York. And I'm I choose I choose these two states because one, they're extremely difficult to obtain any licensing to operate with a firearm.

SPEAKER_02 27:14

And you don't have to have an address there.

SPEAKER_01 27:18

Um for California, no. I will I think in New York you can get a non-resident guard card.

SPEAKER_02 27:27

Okay. That's cool.

SPEAKER_01 27:31

Oklahoma, on the other hand, you need to be a six-month resident. I read that the other day.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Okay, let me ask you something. Are like does every like who's uh obviously a lot of people that you don't know um wouldn't even need security, but like right now your clientele, what's it made up of?

Clients Pay Rates And EP Reality

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Like bankers or politicians, like what uh so for because I also do uh uniform arm security, and I'll include that in in the list of things. Um so there could be uh someone that that's famous through uh podcasts and political uh opposition views. Um there could be uh uh for instance uh there's a politician that I do work for. There's uh uh places of worship, so churches and mosques. I do I do secure. There's CEOs and people you know in the business world that uh I've done work for as well. Okay. So it's it's kind of everywhere right now, and uh I I want to focus more on politicians, but I'm I'm open for anything and every and you know, anything this world has to offer, especially like the EP world. Um the uniform guard uh uniform security stuff, it's it's kind of like what we did in actually it's exactly what we did overseas in Iraq. Uh just stand there and and guard uh a tower or guard uh the ECP or you know protect the building or something, you know? Yeah. So it's pretty much the same thing we've we've been doing, we did and we were trained to do. Now, when it comes to EP, it's a little bit more different, but and that's that's the realm I'm I'm starting to you know look into and starting to work, and I really enjoy it so far.

SPEAKER_02 29:40

Yeah, there was actually um JR JR McIntyre. Um he he was on the podcast before he was in our unit. He was out before I was in, but he came on the podcast, shared his story. Um Renoso is really, really close with him, and you know, he's a solid dude. I went down there to Florida. Um, he's cool. And he was in the executive protection field for a while with Rat Pack Security, but I think the company ended up going under, and uh, you know, now he's on the bigger and better things. And yeah, Byron Rogers, are you familiar with him?

SPEAKER_01 30:20

I am not.

SPEAKER_02 30:22

So he's like he's a former Marine and he's really heavy in the EP game or was. I don't know. I just heard of him through uh JR, and you know, he posts some cool shit. You would definitely you would see eye to eye with him. Um but yeah, I mean, I don't know shit about executive protection. I know that Rat Pack, though, they did get contracted to do like the Super Bowl a couple years ago. Yeah, which was cool, right? Like he wasn't the only company, but he was one of them. Um, I don't think they were armed for that event, though. Okay, yeah, level two yeah, but dude, landing something like that, I mean, it's gotta be big bucks, right?

SPEAKER_01 31:02

Um, it varies. So I can only speak about numbers here in Texas. So on average, your level, your uniformed arm security makes on average, maybe 20 to $30 an hour.

SPEAKER_02 31:18

Uniformed armed, okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 31:21

Now, when we talk about EP, you're wearing, you're concealed, you're wearing regular clothes, okay, most likely a suit or you know, some type of casual wear. And they can make anywhere from you know $35, $40 and up. Okay. Now you're if those events that like like the Super Bowl, unarmed, uniformed, you can you can still make a pretty penny depending on the event and how much the your your company's charging the client. Um, but it could be low as $15 and as high as I've I've seen a contract come through my message boards unarmed, uniformed, for $45 an hour. And that these are just events. These are events. Yeah. So that's I mean, that's good money for not being armed.

SPEAKER_02 32:18

Yeah, for sure. Yeah, when the risk, when the risk is low, I mean $40, $45 an hour just to chill and and uh, you know, it tells me the risk is very low if you're not gonna have weapons involved, but dude, I'm sure you can look, I'm sure you could just do personal security. Like, bro, if I had the funds, I'd I'd hire you full time, bro, just to hang out with me.

SPEAKER_01 32:43

Yo, hang out with me. That would be fun, dude. That would be a lot of fun. Yeah, I'm like, hey man, I gotta put these cards down real quick. I gotta do uh I gotta do a photo. Bye, bro. What do you think?

SPEAKER_02 32:58

Yeah, that's so cool, man. So well, dude, I'm actually we're gonna let me see. We're we're gonna wrap this up for now, Lucas. We're gonna continue it though. Um at a at a later date. Uh, I got some shit to handle real quick, but dude, you're it's been an honor having you on, bro. Enjoy your freedom, dude. Don't work too hard because I mean,

Wrap Up And Respect For Service

SPEAKER_02 33:21

you know, brother, you've been through some fucking shit. Um, a lot of shit. Uh, you know, especially being a Purple Heart recipient. Um and, you know, this country and myself, we thank you for your service, brother. So thanks for coming on Daily American, all right.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Dan, it's been a pleasure and thank you for having me on your show.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

You're the best, man.

SPEAKER_01 33:42

And I cannot wait to see you see you in the future on these on the on the episodes.

SPEAKER_02 33:47

Yes, sir. Yup. Let's make it happen, brother. We'll talk soon, all right?

SPEAKER_01 33:50

Yes, sir. All right, you have a great day.

SPEAKER_02 33:53

All right, Lucas.

SPEAKER_01 33:54

All right, peace.