Music City Drum Show 2026 (LIVE Day 2)

Attendee and exhibitor interviews from the 2026 Music City Drum Show, July 18-19 in Nashville, TN.

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Interviews
0:00 Intro
3:33 Kris Mazzarisi - Story Behind Big Fat Snare Drum 
17:15 Derek Lee (Beat Note) - "Combining Passions" 
24:48 Daniel Hegerle - "Favorite Event of the Year"
28:27 Taylor Morgan - "One Year in Nashville"
30:38 Alex Mortem - "Play Hard, Play Fast"
34:36 Shawn Tracht - "The Great American Drum Shop Road Trip"
57:26 Mace Santa Maria - "Girls Stick Together"
1:03:43 Majo Herrera - "Enjoying the Process"
1:06:17 Christian Gendics - "Welcome to Town"
1:07:38 Ryan Whitt - "Keeping Things Rolling"
1:10:02 Ed Bettinelli - Thumb Thang
1:15:07 Ory Brochet - "Orybon Drums: Sound Different"
1:21:24 Josh Blount - Lucky Drums 
1:24:00 Matt Bover - "Best Pizza in Nashville?" 
1:30:34 Greg Hersey - "Innovation in Percussion Setups" 
1:35:22 Jacob Robinson - "Learning by Doing"

Transcript

Intro

SPEAKER_16 0:00

You're a drum-loving lobster man.

SPEAKER_09 0:02

I that's correct.

SPEAKER_14 0:03

Like Sandman, lobster man, sandman, lobster man.

SPEAKER_16 0:09

I just my heart beat, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm a drummer.

SPEAKER_09 0:15

Welcome everybody to a special episode of the National Drummers Podcast live from the Music City Drum Show.

SPEAKER_19 0:21

Yeah, we had such an incredible weekend. Like always, this is our fourth show in a row and the sixth annual Music City Drum Show. A huge shout out and thank you once again to Landon and JC for hosting and for having us back year after year. And so we split all of our live recordings from the booth into two separate episodes. First is live from day one on Saturday, followed by day two on Sunday. And it was truly so awesome getting to meet so many of you, drummers and vendors, hobbyists and enthusiasts alike from all walks of life and across the country. We had some really, I think some of our most interesting conversations this year. Would you agree?

SPEAKER_09 0:59

I would. And I I want to echo what you said. Lannon and JC knocked it out of the park. It was bigger and better than ever this year. Uh and that goes for the setup. It was smarter. I loved having the quiet room. Incredible. Also, pretty pumped about all the clinic traffic that came through. Smart. Yeah, it was kind of nice.

SPEAKER_19 1:21

And the quiet, as I called it the quieter zone, it's never gonna be quiet for a drum show. But it's it made these recordings definitely a lot easier. So definitely appreciate that.

SPEAKER_09 1:31

And we had some phenomenal conversations. Uh honestly, it was just basically eight hours a day, two days in a row, of either being fully immersed in a conversation on the microphone or off the microphone. I got to play drums for about five minutes.

SPEAKER_19 1:51

Yeah, I literally I didn't I did not touch a single drum all weekend.

SPEAKER_09 1:54

Insane.

SPEAKER_19 1:55

Which is like like kind of sucked, but also like I'm there to talk to everybody and as a testament to how great the communications were and the hangs were at the booth. So who give me give me a few of your favorite interviews that you did?

SPEAKER_09 2:05

Oh my god. I mean, uh I really I I I loved talking. Honestly, my favorite would probably the two favorites would probably be Lori Toscano and Sean Tracht. Yeah, yeah, Lori from New York. Yep. Yep, yep, yep. Those were standout uh moments for me. Uh I I am like my mother. I really love a good character. And I could tell the instant I looked at both of them that they were characters. And I was dead right.

SPEAKER_19 2:40

Yeah, I'm stoked. I got to sit down with Dorothy Taylor on day one. That was really special to meet her. Uh then started the day on Sunday, interviewing Chris Mazrizi from Big Fat Snare Drum. I can't wait for you to hear that. Yeah. So yeah, too. And yeah, if you were one of our interviewees from the booth, definitely help us out by sharing these episodes, telling a friend about the podcast. It truly made our weekend, just hearing all of your stories and journeys, what brought you to Nashville, what brought you to the show. And we really appreciate everyone coming by, being so supportive, and just that's what this community is all about.

SPEAKER_09 3:12

We hope you enjoy these episodes of the Nashville Drummers Podcast.

SPEAKER_19 3:15

And we'll see you back next year for the Music City Drum Show 2027.

SPEAKER_09 3:18

Also, I kissed Ethan Harb on the face.

SPEAKER_19 3:20

He did. We have photos of that. Love you, Ethan.

Kris Mazzarisi - "Story Behind Big Fat Snare Drum"

SPEAKER_19 3:33

We are live from the Music City Drum Show, day two, 2026, and I can't think of a better person, a better brand to be sitting here in the booth with than Chris Matterisi, the big fast scenario drummer. Welcome to the National Drummers Podcast. Thank you so much for having me. This is awesome. Yeah, man. I love the hat, I love the shirt. I gotta I gotta represent, right? Yeah, man. How how has the show been for you guys? So you guys are in the big Big Bang booth this year.

SPEAKER_02 3:57

Yes, so Big Bang is my distributor. Um the booth is fantastic. The row behind us is the loudest thing I've ever heard, and some of the fastest drumming I've ever heard. So my voice might crack. I feel like I sound like Howard Stern right now on these headphones, so they know. Um, but uh yeah, the show's great. Uh it's really cool to come back and do this trade show. Uh the last time I did this was probably three years ago, I'm thinking, and uh I took the booth last minute, so I was kind of in the middle of nowhere. Um, so it's cool to be in the mix this year. Uh and yeah, I don't really do too many trade shows. I don't really like to leave the house unless I'm playing drums, so this is cool to be out there.

SPEAKER_19 4:38

And so Big Fast Hair Drum's been around since 2014.

SPEAKER_02 4:42

2014, yeah. We just turned 12, which is insane because the entire thing just started as a pure accident, and I have no business experience at all. I have a computer science degree, so I did not know how to do this at all.

SPEAKER_19 4:56

Pure accident. Is there a quick story behind that? Uh yeah. You know, here in Nashville and you know, throughout the country, I mean, you can't go you can't go anywhere without seeing one of your products. I personally use multiple of the mufflers, you know, my snare drum and and time. I mean, you guys have truly changed the way drummers perform and record.

SPEAKER_02 5:15

It's pretty incredible. Oh, that's so sweet of you. Thank you. Um, I mean, the the the quick elevator pitch version of it is that uh I was touring a bunch. I like really small drum kits. I had to obviously have some different snare sounds. I don't really like playing a side snare. Uh so I just started kind of homemaking these cut-out drum heads and played uh played like an outdoor uh like beat show, and one of my cutout drum heads just blew away while I was playing the show.

SPEAKER_19 5:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:40

So I said, you know what, there's gotta be a better way to make something like this that's weighted, maybe has some kind of gasket. Made made one of these prototypes for myself and just kind of started showing them to some friends, and friends were like, you need to do this, like this has to happen. Yeah and uh a buddy of mine, this guy Tim Pagnata, who was the singer of the pop punk band Sugar Cult. I don't know if you remember them. Uh he's a producer and uh a writer. He's like, Yeah, you need to you need to make these. And uh he's actually the one who accidentally named the company because I I had a million workshop names that were awful, and and uh we spoke on the phone one day and he's like, Hey man, he's like, How's that like uh big fat snare drum idea you got going? What's what's going on with that? And I was like, Well, you just inadvertently named the company and uh it's going it's going fine. So uh the real uh I guess the start of the company was um I worked I worked for an artist, uh Sarah Borelis. I worked for her for years as a tech and the the nicest, sweetest boss, one of the most talented people I've ever seen perform. I made a bunch of these factory-made prototypes and gave them out to a bunch of friends and and drummers that I knew, and um the very last one I had, she was able to get to Quest Love. Yeah, and so Quest got the drum head. At that point, the company was just a website with a coming soon page and an email address and an Instagram that was parked, and I knew nothing about social media. This is you know 12-ish years ago. Yeah, knew nothing about social media. Me and my wife went on a cruise, we had our phones shut off, came back to the port of Miami, and she's like, You might want to uh check that uh check that email address, and I was like, Okay, why? And she's like, Well, Quest Love just posted about this on Instagram, and it has like thousands of likes and comments, and I actually configured my email address at the port to try to get push email on my phone, and it was like that's crazy. So it just you know, the the story is that we we ordered the initial order right before I went on that cruise was a hundred, I ordered a hundred drum heads. Yeah, and you know, we thought we'd have like a fun Etsy business where you know it'd take me a year to sell a hundred heads, and I was like, cool, and the first hundred heads were gone in a week.

SPEAKER_19 7:47

Dude, that's just the coolest man. I love hearing that such humble beginnings, and you know, I think for anyone listening, especially it's it's fitting that we're at the drum show here with, of course, a lot of new companies that you see, a lot of accessories. It seems like every year there's there's new companies, and you know, it's like drums have been around forever, and yet we find new ways to innovate and create new solutions for problems that maybe aren't always a big deal or problems that we didn't realize needed solving, you know, especially with tone and totally, you know.

SPEAKER_02 8:14

Yeah, it's uh it's an interesting time. I I think so I guess maybe a few years ago there was like this way. I don't want to badmouth anybody, I'm not gonna obviously say anything specific, but uh there was this wave of companies that were coming out that were kind of creating a problem that didn't exist and then making a product for a problem that didn't exist. And I don't know, I was able to kind of not like mentor these companies, but I would get these random DMs or phone calls where I got your phone number from blah blah blah, and I have like 800 questions about patents and manufacturing, and you know, I would I would talk to people, it's you know, I I you know I'd want to help as much as I can. And it got to a point my wife's like, you need to start charging these people, and I'm like, uh, you know, but uh it we kind of saw this wave of these companies coming out, and then unfortunately a lot of them just stopped existing. And but I think there's a new I think there's a new wave of companies coming out, and a lot of it's represented here where people are really trying to solve a problem, and I think it's a a more well-thought out game plan and a more well-thought out program uh product that's actually gonna impact the industry rather than just making a uh a product for the sake of making your product.

SPEAKER_19 9:22

Yeah, I mean I feel like you guys kind of set the tone for what could be possible. No pun intended. I did not exactly no pun intended. So okay, uh fast forward to 2026. How many uh models, how many different products in the catalog?

SPEAKER_02 9:34

So the crazy thing is it started out as one, and then I had two heads, and then I would package those two together and have three products. Uh I think at this point we have like 250 skews. Wow, okay. So a lot of it's like uh variations of sizes and packaging, and and that's like 250 skews without any merch or any of the crazy things that I just make in the basement and I sell like five on the website just for fun, you know. So my wife uh hates me for all that stuff because uh it gets complicated at times, but yeah, you're you're paying the mortgage though, right? Well, I mean, yeah, she's got a good job too. So there you go. That helps. Yeah. Well, I I do play also play in a band called Wineka Bowling League. Okay. We're uh like an LA-based indie rock band. Yeah. I I live in Massachusetts, so the rest of the band is LA based, which is which is fun. Like Coast Coast. Yeah, so uh yeah. I so I when I'm not doing this, I tour doing that, and very cool. That's even more awesome to try to remote run a business while I'm on the road.

SPEAKER_19 10:30

So I know what I was gonna ask. Um you guys also have a podcast, or is that more so Ben's venture?

SPEAKER_02 10:35

That's Ben's. Uh so Ben is the AR guy for Big Fat Snare Drum and kind of the catch-all. He does uh, I would say fifty plus percent of the social media stuff. He does if you're talking to anybody on Big Fat Snare Drum on DMs, it's it's most likely Ben. Um we kind of share the responsibility on the posting and and uh well yeah, if we could quickly touch on that.

SPEAKER_19 10:55

I mean literally your pay it's just it's a meme page.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 11:00

But sprinkled in with obviously, you know, legit uh product promotion. People forget we do that. Well, it's just it's just so perfect, I think. And maybe you can talk a little bit about like the brand and the culture, and you know, I mean, with a name being Big Fast Air Drum, it's like you kinda I feel like you're playing into it. Totally. Like it's a serious product, but like we're gonna just kind of be silly and I mean I I love it. Um thank you. I'll I'll go through one post or video that you guys share and then I'll just be stuck the rest of the afternoon. Oh, I'm sorry. Yeah, I mean it's it's it's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 11:29

Um I'll I'll touch on the Ben question super quick and then I'll tell you about the meme stuff. So Ben, yeah, Ben runs all the podcast stuff. Uh I'm lucky enough to be a guest every once in a while. I I guessed uh with him and Eric uh Surreya.

SPEAKER_19 11:40

Um that's drummers on drumming. Uh yes. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:43

So yeah, so Ben's like, we're actually workshopping, maybe doing another smaller podcast as well, too. Yeah, so that's Ben's like Ben does the book stuff, he has the book based off the podcast, which is fantastic. Um and yeah, he handles all that stuff. So that's him. Uh as far as the the social media stuff goes, it's like I was saying earlier, I actually knew nothing about social media at all. Like I barely had a personal page, and so I'm just trying to always navigate what works. And you know, I'm not a big like back-end metrics guy. I'm not studying all this crazy stuff, and I kind of I I casually look at the trends of what's going on and they tell you when to post and blah blah blah. Sure, um, I just see what works. Yeah, I see what gets interaction. It's not always necessarily how many likes it gets or how many plays, but it's it's the comments that people have and it's the shares and that kind of stuff. So, I mean, when I first started the page, it was you know, Instagram and stuff, it was uh photos of drunk kids were working great. Like we were getting orders and and people were interacting and they were excited to see it.

SPEAKER_19 12:38

Here's the product in action. Here's the product.

SPEAKER_02 12:40

So I I and then I kind of quickly figured out that I almost do it's like uh it's like ninja marketing that I do where I never actually just show you the product and like buy my product, here it is. Right. Because it doesn't work, people don't care. I do it once in a while when I people when people do it, I guess.

SPEAKER_19 12:56

I think consumers want to feel like they are being marketed to.

SPEAKER_02 13:00

Yeah, for sure. And I don't want to be either. It's like I'd rather, I'd rather, if there's a product out there, I'd rather see it in use. You know, it's like I love going on Instagram and they're like, oh, there's some because I have two kids, they're like, oh, check out this like toy. And you're like, um somebody's demoing the toy, and I'm like, oh, that's cool.

SPEAKER_19 13:13

Yeah, which is why QuestLove obviously put you guys on the map and why artist marketing is so important.

SPEAKER_02 13:18

For sure, yeah. It's I mean, that's I have uh basically next to nothing on any uh like Facebook ads or anything. I I don't pay anything. Yeah, it's great. I mean you don't have to. It's great. It's I've been so lucky. But you know, so we're constantly evolving and changing. It's it's you know, the uh like I said, the pictures are working for a while. Then it was like, all right, videos are working, people are really responding to the the drum head off and the drum head on, and it's that that worked for a while. Okay, cool. And you know, then I kind of saw that stop working, and uh I was like, let's just be like ridiculous, let's let's just do funny stuff and post funny things and kind of lightly make fun of people and make fun of like the absurdity of how some of these drum companies take themselves so seriously, and it's like dudes, we're playing drums at the end of the day. It's like you know, I don't know, it's it's stupid. But so I mean that works, and you know, sometimes it doesn't, and you know, we have to kind of assess why, and you know, we've kind of molded our humor a little bit, and you know, me and Ben always have the joke of uh it's like the back end conversations of our text threads are like I posted that today, I thought it was gold, and like nobody got it, and and then we'll post the stupidest thing, and it's like you know, we've done we've done posts where it's like so stupid and it's gotten like 900,000 views.

SPEAKER_19 14:28

Like that's that's the internet, yeah. Like, what? And do you guys have like a I don't know, like a Friday morning meme planning hour, or like is it just kind of off the cuff?

SPEAKER_02 14:38

It's like literally, I mean, our text messages we probably would get in trouble if anybody really saw them, but but it's just like it it literally is Ben sending me like two things. Is this funny? Is there an angle here? Can we like workshop this? And then it's me doing the same thing, it's like scrolling at like midnight before I go to bed, and I'm like, is this funny? Is this funny? Is this funny? Or like I'll just post something that I think is funny and he'll do the same, and you know, we'll we'll kind of like lightly have a competition. I forget the actual um the actual font formatting, but Ben does like I think Ben does like a black background with white font, and I think I'm the opposite, so you can figure out who's posting.

SPEAKER_19 15:14

Uh kind of okay, there's a little inside knowledge for you there.

SPEAKER_02 15:17

Okay, yeah, so we kind of lightly have competition to who uh who gets the better interaction, awesome, which is ridiculous, but yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_19 15:23

Yeah, that's so fun. Well, hey man, Chris, so good to get to know you in a little bit so much for behind Big Fast Nair Drum. Uh, give us maybe a teaser or any any new products that are dropping at the show or this year, or what can customers kind of look forward to in the next few months or or next year, maybe.

SPEAKER_02 15:38

So for the show, I actually really don't have much new. Um, I guess my kind of my kind of favorite products right now are our Camu heads, which is like a synthetic uh material that they just sound great on like times.

SPEAKER_19 15:49

I love the name Camus.

SPEAKER_02 15:50

The Camus. Um so not to get too deep into it into what was me, but just I had a really rough manufacturing year last year with like tariffs and materials and stuff. So just this year was really focused on just getting kind of like back to basics where just getting orders out the door and getting product back on the website and product back to our distributor Big Bang. Um so I didn't have a lot of time. The company's ultra small, it's it's so you know, I'm I'm wearing 17,000 hats. So for me to start really innovating, which is really what I love doing and building new products, was kind of rough just because of all the back orders and you know, contacting factories to try to find new material. So the long answer to that is hopefully by the end of the year, by Christmas, I have like five new things that are gonna be coming out. Cool. I couldn't bring them here. I brought them here, they're here, they're in a pelican case that I'm just showing a couple of people, but uh fingerprint ID. Yeah, you have to sign an NDA to look in the Pelican case. But um, but yeah, so hopefully by the end of the year we'll have some stuff. So more products to my wife to uh get mad at me at. Cool, super exciting.

SPEAKER_19 16:51

Well, hey man, keep doing what you're doing. We so appreciate you.

SPEAKER_02 16:54

Thanks so much. Hopefully, Ben will be here next year. Ben's Ben's on tour, so yeah, yeah. He's uh he's out with LP right now. Sad that he can't be here, but uh he's playing like huge places, so I don't feel that bad.

SPEAKER_19 17:04

I'm gonna stop by the booth later and uh cheers to the final day of the music age.

SPEAKER_02 17:07

Oh my god, I can't wait to get home.

SPEAKER_19 17:09

Yeah, cheers, buddy. Thanks so much. All right, of course.

Derek Lee (Beat Note) - “Combining Passions”

SPEAKER_12 17:16

My name is Derek Lee, and I'm the founder, developer, designer, product manager, social media marketer, all the things for drum notation by beat note. We are an application for iOS right now. iPhone, iPad, Mac OS, Android, and web are coming.

SPEAKER_09 17:34

That was a question because I knew somebody was asking me, like, is it on Android now? I know it was just Mac OS before. Yeah. Crossing the board. Awesome.

SPEAKER_12 17:42

Yeah, I'm I'm a one-man, one-person team, so you know, moving as fast as I can.

SPEAKER_09 17:47

Yeah, dude, and you're killing it.

SPEAKER_12 17:49

It takes, it takes time. So BeatNote is primarily targeted actually at teachers, at educators. And those can be teachers who are teaching in person or online or doing stuff on socials and creating, composing any type of music notation contents for drum set, and then sharing that with their students.

SPEAKER_09 18:10

That's amazing. And I you were we were talking about a little bit Juan Carlito Mendoza is using that now, and he's such a beast, and I love his content, and it looks amazing.

SPEAKER_12 18:19

He's he's just he's a uh just amazing person and an amazing drummer.

SPEAKER_09 18:24

Dude, and I want and I want to give you props too, because I know last year we just had a little conversation. I'm sure I'm not the only person to have this talk with you about where we're talking, we're like, what about QuinTplets and Ceph tuplets? And that's the first thing you said to me. One, you remembered that conversation, and two, you got it done. You like you, I love that you're forward-thinking, progressive with this. Let's let's level this thing up. It's really, really sick, man.

SPEAKER_12 18:50

This is part of just how I've learned how to build product, and that's in an iterative fashion. Because if I just take two, three, four years to build the quote unquote perfect notation tool, that's two or three or four years that takes resources to do, and then nobody gets to enjoy or have any kind of say in the process as that is all happening. And so I purposely released a very slimmed down, super, super simple. In the tech world they call it an MVP, a minimum viable product, but super, super simple version that I could then get feedback from people and incorporate that into the application. So I really want BeatNote to be a community-driven effort. It's not just me. I have the drumming experience and the product experience and the engineering experience to build it, and I want to facilitate the product to move in the direction that helps satisfy people's needs.

SPEAKER_09 19:46

Question about, I just curious about your background. So you have the engineering experience. Uh, first of all, when did drumming come into the picture for you?

SPEAKER_12 19:55

I appreciate you asking me about this. But sometimes people are like, hey, are you a drummer? And I'm like, do you think I could have built this if I wasn't a drummer? I started playing drums at 11 and heavy into drum set and then marching, concert, Latin percussion, jazz, and rock. I grew up outside of Boston, Massachusetts, so I applied to and got accepted to Berkeley, and my parents were like, no. I've come a long way with this. I had a lot of interest also in computers, and so I ended up studying computer science at Purdue University with the dream. I literally wrote in my college application letter, my dream is to find a way to combine my passions for drumming and engineering.

SPEAKER_09 20:39

And you have done that beautifully.

SPEAKER_12 20:41

When the iPad came out, I got super excited. I bought an iPad, I bought my first Mac, I taught myself how to build for iOS for iPhone and iPad, and I built my first app for Mike Johnston, the Groove Freedom app for practicing independence. I digitized his book. I ended up meeting Benny Greb at one of his master classes in Chicago, and ended up befriending him, and he asked me to build the Gap Click app for him, his Metronome app. Concept entirely by Benny, programming. Just, you know, I just did the programming, just the guy who did the programming.

SPEAKER_09 21:15

Hey, hey man, I just work here.

SPEAKER_12 21:16

Yeah. And after that, that's where I started to actually have enough confidence to be like, you know, I've been drumming for, you know, so since I was a kid. I've got all these ideas about what I want to do that, you know, I decided to put beat note out there.

SPEAKER_09 21:31

Incredible. I think that's a great story of I I believe it's very important to combine skills. As you said, you're like, well, I would love to combine these two passions. I think if you're interested in multiple things, it's easier, it's easier in life if you find a way to cross those things over.

SPEAKER_12 21:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 21:52

That's that's how you find some unique lane. And I think you've done that very well.

SPEAKER_12 21:57

Thank you very much. Yeah. I I've been Thinking about that as well, and as I've become independent in my work, I no longer work for a full-time job. I quit my full-time job about four years ago. So now I'm also adding entrepreneurship and business and not just software engineering, but I also have to do design and product management. And this is helping to stretch me in new directions, and it's exactly as you said, the cross-intersection of these is what helps create innovation. I think we did a really good job of hitting on, you know, that beat note is community driven, but I really just love to drive that home so that people understand I've got a public-facing roadmap, people can go and add their own enhancement requests, they can vote for enhancements on there, and we can have a conversation. And so, you know, just because somebody is asking for a certain feature, like there could be an underlying need there, and so we can talk about it. Like, well, how are you going to use that, or how do you want to use that, or how do you envision yourself using that?

SPEAKER_09 22:54

Right, and there could be there could be a question or a request that may be like, well, actually, that's you're asking for this feature, but it can actually be accomplished by this other means within the app already.

SPEAKER_12 23:05

A lot of times there are multiple people asking for the similar, like a similar thing in a different way, but they they they they think more about solutions. Like a lot of people think about solutions, like, well, I want to tap here and I want to be able to do this, but if you actually like dig down underneath and understand what the core needs are there, then there could be a solution that applies to more people than just that one individual person. So that's part of what I see my job as a facilitator is to understand the needs of educators and students and content creators who are using the app. And so another thing for you mentioned Juan Carlito, he and several other content creators asked me for a video export feature. Jay uh Jay Fentchel, the drummer's almanac, told me, hey man, I'm spending two, three, four hours, you know, uh a day trying to add no notation to my videos. Like, can we do something? And that inspiration, that feedback helped me build a video export feature so that you can punch in your beat into beat note, export an animated video of it, and just line it up with your video and post it to TikTok or Instagram or YouTube. And so now people who are either posting just to reels or shorts or actually doing their own video courses can add animated notation just like that through V Code.

SPEAKER_09 24:21

Incredible. Well, I hope that this show is a massive success for you. I think it should be. I think you've created something really, really cool, very useful to a lot of people, and I hope that a million billion people start using it.

SPEAKER_12 24:35

I do too. And I think I really uh want to thank you and just appreciate your support. And uh, you know, hope to see you again at Music City again next year.

SPEAKER_09 24:43

Yes, sir.

SPEAKER_12 24:44

Awesome.

Daniel Hegerle - “Favorite Event of the Year”

SPEAKER_09 24:50

Welcome. How are you doing? I'm good. How are you? I'm doing real well. Why don't you tell the nice people your name?

SPEAKER_07 24:55

Uh my name's Daniel Hagerly. I play drums.

SPEAKER_09 24:58

Okay, I've never heard I've never heard your last name pronounced until now, so I was gonna take a guess at it. Yeah, and I was going to fail, so I'm glad I didn't.

SPEAKER_07 25:05

Oh, you're one of one of everybody.

SPEAKER_09 25:07

Hager Lee. Hagerly.

SPEAKER_07 25:09

Love it. Yeah. Yeah. How's it going, man? How you liking the show? Dude, the show is my like favorite event of the year. Like, I literally fly down from Maryland for this every year.

SPEAKER_09 25:19

Yeah, it's it's a it's a blast every year. First of all, it's great to see you. I love it. Love running into you. Um so let's we'll talk show for a second, then I just want to ask about your life. Yeah. Um, yeah, what do what are you excited to see? What have you seen so far? You were here yesterday. What was your favorite thing yesterday?

SPEAKER_07 25:36

Oh man, had to be Jules Clinic.

SPEAKER_09 25:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 25:39

Jules is amazing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 25:40

Um ripped. Yeah. She sounded so good.

SPEAKER_07 25:43

It's so clean.

SPEAKER_09 25:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 25:45

Um, yeah, and she's just an amazing person too. Like, we had talked a couple times online, but I had never met her before. Um, and like as soon as I saw her, she ran up, gave me a big hug. Like, she's just an amazing person, so welcoming and just amazing at what she does.

SPEAKER_11 26:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 26:02

So we're gonna work on some branding stuff together after the show's over. Yo, awesome. And yeah, it's gonna be amazing.

SPEAKER_09 26:09

You're already pretty good at branding yourself, I would say.

SPEAKER_07 26:12

Uh thank you. Uh, but I mean, not like that, not like her. She's like got it all dialed in. So I'm excited to work with her.

SPEAKER_09 26:21

Alright, so uh, I want to hear about what you're doing. You were we were just talking about a little bit about the playing you're doing out. Why don't you tell the nice people what you are doing? Yeah, still mean people.

SPEAKER_07 26:32

Tell everybody. So I'm rocking some cover gigs right now. Yeah. You have to bring in some money. Yep. Like everybody else. Um, but the big one I got coming up is I'm playing with this band called Holiday State. Um, and we're flying out to California to open up for Kane Brown, Dustin Lynch, and Low Cash uh next month. Yeah, it's gonna be awesome.

SPEAKER_11 26:55

Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_07 26:55

Yeah, sold-out festival in California. Can't beat it. Where where in where in California is that gonna be? I'm gonna butcher this name because it's California and I'm from Maryland. But it's San Juan Capistrano. That'll do. Sure. I I'm gonna give that a solid fee on the pronunciation.

SPEAKER_09 27:13

What is that like thing? What what what is that? The st the salmon? Is that dumb and dumber? The salmon of Capistrano? Dude.

unknown 27:21

So yeah.

SPEAKER_09 27:22

When are we gonna play? That's the that's the real question. When are we gonna play? Yeah, when are we gonna shed?

SPEAKER_07 27:26

Dude, whenever. When do you want to?

SPEAKER_09 27:28

Bro, I want to right now.

SPEAKER_07 27:30

Yeah, me, me too.

SPEAKER_09 27:31

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 27:32

That's like the thing that I don't like about the drum show is like I come here to connect with so many people that like I think I've played drums for like 30 seconds this entire weekend.

SPEAKER_09 27:42

I'll just play. I played on that practice pad for like 15 seconds and then I jumped right into a conversation and like I love talking, but dang. Yeah, I have a lot of pretty drums I want to smack.

SPEAKER_07 27:54

I know. Like, I think pretty much all I've been doing is just practice pad in my hotel room. Bro, I know brutal. And then I hit like one kit like 10 minutes ago. What did you play? Oh, I don't even remember what the kit was, but it was at the tone wings booth. Oh. Those tone wings are killer.

SPEAKER_09 28:10

God bless tone wings. Yeah. Thank you. We love you. You're incredible.

SPEAKER_07 28:15

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 28:15

Uh I think you should go play Lucky Drums.

SPEAKER_07 28:17

Lucky drums? I have never tried those. I'm feeling lucky. I dude. Me too.

Taylor Morgan - “One Year in Nashville"

SPEAKER_13 28:28

Hi, my name is Taylor Morgan. Thanks for having me.

SPEAKER_19 28:31

Of course. Yeah, Taylor's been a friend of the show. I think we met last year at one of the drummer hangs.

SPEAKER_13 28:37

Yeah, um, one of the drummer hangs. We met up, I mean, just it was super brief, but we said hey, whatnot.

SPEAKER_19 28:42

And this is your first Music City drum show?

SPEAKER_13 28:45

Yes, because I moved to Nashville in September of last year, and I was gonna try and come down prior to that, but I didn't get to.

SPEAKER_19 28:52

And uh how's the show going for you so far? What have you seen? What have you heard?

SPEAKER_13 28:57

Dude, I'm kind of overwhelmed. I didn't get to really talk to anyone yet. Uh just been walking, checking some things out. Um so far, just I don't know, really impressed by watching the people shred out there.

SPEAKER_19 29:09

Yeah, it's like you said, yeah, overwhelming, it's chaotic in a good way, you know. So you said you've been in Nashville for a year.

SPEAKER_13 29:15

It's gonna be a year, yeah.

SPEAKER_19 29:16

How has the city life treated you and how's career and gigs and community?

SPEAKER_13 29:21

Um I think it's great. I I really like Nashville. I think it meets you where you're at. Um I'm meeting people that I feel like align with what I do, and that's super cool. I'm also meeting people that challenge me and push me, which is exactly what I'm needing. And I'm gonna just shamefully promote the show real fast. I used to listen to this before I moved down.

SPEAKER_19 29:40

No kidding. Yeah, it was really helpful. Oh, we'd love to hear that. Yeah, well, appreciate the support. What has been a highlight of the year for you so far?

SPEAKER_13 29:48

Um, just going on tour in June, which that was like my first real like professional drummer gig. So I was able to sustain myself, and that was that opened more doors for me, so it's really exciting.

SPEAKER_19 30:00

Who was that tour with?

SPEAKER_13 30:01

Oh, that was with an indie artist named Melanie A. Davis. Um, she's uh resides in Murray, Kentucky. Cool.

SPEAKER_19 30:07

Awesome.

SPEAKER_13 30:08

Yeah, cool.

SPEAKER_19 30:10

And uh give the people uh maybe some social handles or where can people find and connect with you if they should be?

SPEAKER_13 30:15

Yeah, they can connect with me. Instagram is just TM drum. Just the letter T, the letter M drum. And you can DM me there, email me, hit me up. I'm always available and ready to play.

SPEAKER_06 30:28

Great.

SPEAKER_13 30:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 30:29

Taylor, so good to have you on. Appreciate you, and uh best of luck this year.

SPEAKER_13 30:33

Yeah, thank you so much.

SPEAKER_19 30:34

Yeah, cheers.

Alex Mortem - “Play Hard, Play Fast”

SPEAKER_19 30:40

All right, we're live from the Music City Drum Show, day two, year six. Who do I had the pleasure of uh sitting down with here today?

SPEAKER_05 30:47

Alex Perez, or people on social media know me as Alex Mortem.

SPEAKER_19 30:51

Alex Mortem. And how old are you? I'm 15. Which is crazy because you were just showing us some videos of you rocking out in your was that your garage?

SPEAKER_05 30:58

Yeah, it was my garage.

SPEAKER_19 30:59

With uh how many toms were on that kit?

SPEAKER_05 31:01

Uh I have four up and three down.

SPEAKER_19 31:04

Four up, three down, wow. Yeah. And you're a killer player, you're doing double kick and everything.

SPEAKER_05 31:09

Yeah, I've been into double kick for like since I started. So uh like Joey Jordison pretty much got me into it, and then since then I've just like evolved the music taste. So now I've gone to like way faster genres of music. So one of my new favorite drummers is Yevgeny Novikov from Slaughter to Prevail.

SPEAKER_19 31:29

That dude is just an absolute beast. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_05 31:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 31:33

And are you self-taught?

SPEAKER_05 31:34

Yeah, for like about like a year and a half, a year and like seven, eight months, something like that.

SPEAKER_19 31:39

That's incredible, man.

SPEAKER_05 31:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 31:41

First first time at the drum show?

SPEAKER_05 31:42

Oh no, this is this is my this is my second year. So last year I came here and that's where I met RL. Um so RL's been true to me. They've been getting me getting me right with a bunch of drums and cymbals, so I have to thank them for that. And then it's just so it's like so sick because this place grew like a crazy amount um since since last year. Yeah. Uh so it's really cool to see all these all these other companies here selling their stuff.

SPEAKER_19 32:08

100%. Give us uh what's your gear setup at home?

SPEAKER_05 32:11

Gear setups and symbols and so drums. I have Soundwave Master Drums from RL. Okay. Uh I have OMET symbols. I have I don't even know how many I have, but I have a lot. Um let's see what else. Oh, uh pedals, I have trick pedals, the Trick Pro 1V, Bigfoot pedals.

SPEAKER_19 32:29

What are you trying to pick up at the show, if anything? Any any new gear that's exciting you?

SPEAKER_05 32:32

Uh there is one thing that I saw that was super cool. It was a um a snare over RLs, like a this like brass gold snare. It's oh, it's so loud and so pingy. So I think it's like perfect for my playstyle.

SPEAKER_19 32:46

Dude, I'm not I'm just noticing your t-shirt. Is that your own logo?

SPEAKER_05 32:50

It's my own logo and stuff, yeah.

SPEAKER_19 32:52

What's the story behind that? Who designed that?

SPEAKER_05 32:54

Uh it was sort of like I'm not I'm not even sure. Well, I just had an idea of like, because I thought I need to have a cool logo, because I could just rock this picture of myself, but I need like a logo if I want to take this to the next level.

SPEAKER_06 33:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05 33:07

So I pretty much just got to thinking, I was like, what are things that sort of like build me up or that can like represent me through like birthday or like anything like that? So pretty much my mom, like a long time ago, she got me this little like head sculpture thing of a Jaguar warrior from Mexico. And I was like, dude, that's super cool. So I was thinking like like Jaguars are fast, they're like aggressive, agile, and I was thinking, like, okay, this could this could represent me playing drums. Yeah. Um, because I I like to like play hard, play fast. So I thought you know that could be something cool. And then I was like, well, I'm a metal drummer, so I need to have a skeleton at all. It totally fits, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 33:47

It's super sick, man.

SPEAKER_05 33:48

Yeah. And then the Alex Mortem font is like aiming for like a little death core font because that's like my favorite genre. Yeah, and I see the shorts, is that a simple similar design? Shorts, shorts, these are just like, I don't know, these look sick, and I I bought them at a store. So nice, man. Yeah. Dude, well, so good to meet you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 34:04

Uh is your first time in Nashville? You have you been here before?

SPEAKER_05 34:06

Uh I've been here, I've been here a couple times before. Before I was drumming, I came here for like soccer and stuff. But you're a soccer player. Used to be. Used to be, yeah. Um, but this is my second year here for drums.

SPEAKER_19 34:18

Awesome. Yeah. Dude, well, I'm excited to see what the future holds for you. You're obviously uh very talented and seems like you got a good good hit on your shoulder. So uh thank you. Hey man, well, good to finally meet you. Yeah. Thanks for coming by.

unknown 34:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 34:30

All right, yeah. Cheers.

Shawn Tracht - “The Great American Drum Shop Road Trip”

SPEAKER_09 34:38

All right, so first of all, what's your name?

SPEAKER_16 34:40

Uh Sean Tract.

SPEAKER_09 34:41

Sean Tract, I'm Nathan Slender. Nice to meet you. Nathan, how are you? I'm so good. So you said you had a story for me.

SPEAKER_16 34:46

I got a story for you.

SPEAKER_09 34:48

Go.

SPEAKER_16 34:48

All right. So I'm gonna tell you about the great American drum shop road trip.

SPEAKER_09 34:53

Ooh, okay, okay.

SPEAKER_16 34:54

I made it up. Okay. Two years ago, after so I've only been drumming for eight years. I started playing during an injury, right? Okay.

SPEAKER_09 35:03

What what injury do you if you don't mind my channel?

SPEAKER_16 35:05

Oh my god, which one do you want to talk about? But the it started with the the ankle, and so I was on crutches, and I went past a classroom. I teach I'm a teacher, okay, graduation high school.

SPEAKER_06 35:14

Okay.

SPEAKER_16 35:15

Yeah. What do you teach? Uh teaching English, independent study, but just we just love kids, man. Like, you know, they're broken from you know, traumas and life stuff, and school had to be second, and so when they come to us, uh, there's only 12 teachers, and we just love them. And we just we help them breathe so that they can make a comeback.

SPEAKER_09 35:35

They need that.

SPEAKER_16 35:37

We all need it.

SPEAKER_09 35:37

Yep. All right, sorry. I didn't I don't I don't want to derail you, but I wanted to I wanted to know who you are.

SPEAKER_16 35:43

Yeah, yeah, yeah, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, and I'm a surfer from California, so so where in California? Uh Pismo Beach.

SPEAKER_09 35:48

Okay, uh honeymoon's there. Um Pismo? Yeah, yeah, I but my wife is from Fresno, I'm from Reading.

SPEAKER_16 35:55

No way! All right, sweet, yeah. So I'm from Pismo, and um, yeah, I've done a lot in the surf community, a lot of writing and surfing and stuff like that, but then I've fallen in love with the drums, so I was going past uh a classroom, and they just got some Fender drums. The worst, yeah, yeah, the worst ones in the whole world. And I didn't know what I was doing, and I said, Hey, can I can I try the drums? I'm gonna need to put this energy somewhere. I'd never played. And they're like, Yeah, go ahead, track, go ahead. And so I did what I thought you were supposed to do. I hit them as hard as you could. Yeah. And it sounded horrible.

SPEAKER_09 36:29

Go figure.

SPEAKER_16 36:31

But my ch I just my heart beat, and I'm like, oh my god, I'm a drummer.

SPEAKER_09 36:38

Oh man, when you know, you know.

SPEAKER_16 36:40

I have played drums every single day since for eight years.

SPEAKER_09 36:44

Wow, dude, how cool is that?

SPEAKER_16 36:48

Okay, so what happened was then I start following all you guys, the podcast, I'm on YouTube, I see Steve Maxwell, Drum Center at Portsmouth, I find Wooden Weather, Drum Shop, obviously Nelson's.

SPEAKER_11 37:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 37:07

And my whole thing is like, if you're inspired, period, that light's gonna just shine.

SPEAKER_09 37:18

I 100% agree.

SPEAKER_16 37:20

So you have to have the light, so you have to keep the light going, right?

SPEAKER_09 37:24

Yes.

SPEAKER_16 37:26

So I'm like, end up getting another injury a couple years later after I'm in a little band with my buddy, uh, immersion summers our band, but I tear my hamstring when I'm finally back playing basketball. And still it's still messed up to this day, two years later. So I I create a map of ten drum shops from the drum center Portsmouth all the way to Dallas. And I teach summer school so I can afford it. I ask my kids, anybody want to take a road trip? They're like, not this year, Dad, we're tired. Why don't you just take it? You'll be back in no time. Ten days, ten states. And I went drum center Portsmouth, then I went uh wooden weather. Have you been there?

SPEAKER_09 38:13

No, no, no.

SPEAKER_16 38:14

Like one of the most awesome vintage drum shops in America. Dude, you gotta get a hold of them. Oh, and then uh Tim Northup, do you know him?

SPEAKER_09 38:24

I don't think so.

SPEAKER_16 38:25

He has the drum museum up in upstate New York in Oineta, and he writes for Modern Drummer. And he has he lets you play everything from the Civil War all the way to the modern day. You have to go see him. And he wants you there. I thought I'd stay for two hours. We were talking and playing for five hours. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_09 38:45

If you if you're able to play whatever you want, I could spend days in something like that. That's insane.

SPEAKER_16 38:51

Dude, he had everything. I mean, I played Buddy Rich's kit, I played Chinese Tom's, I played like he has everything through the ages, like every single thing, and you get to like, and you know how drumming is like, well, maybe you tell me, like, when I play drums, like a vintage drum, I feel like I'm connected. Yes. How what's it like for you? Because I have never done this or been here, like I don't know anything about what's going on. Like, what are drums to you?

SPEAKER_09 39:21

Whoa, what are dr wow, what are drums to me? Wow. I don't know that anyone's ever asked me that question. Uh thank you, Sean Track. Um thank you. Uh man, what are drums to me? Drums to me are they're a lot of things. They are a great sense of joy. Uh they're they're a way to kind of move my body and express emotion. They're they speak a language that I know and love. Uh, and I know, and you know, as you learn different styles, it's like it's like learning different languages or if not different dialects than entirely different languages. You know, you learn and learn uh start learning Latin rhythms, and you realize all these musicians communicate to it's literal, it is language, not in any kind of like uh woo-woo way, which is kind of how I took it when people started saying it's a language. I'm like, no, it's it really is. We actually do communicate to bass players, guitar players, whatever.

SPEAKER_16 40:27

Well, the listener.

SPEAKER_09 40:28

Or the more the listener or other drummers or whoever. We're it's all it's communication. And then for me also, it's uh it's a it's a fun puzzle that I keep solving or I keep getting closer to solving, or I keep uh it's like a a game that I get to play within within my own uh mind and body, because I'm like, okay, well how could I how could I incorporate this rhythm into this and how could I it's you know, it's all of those things. So it's a game, it's uh my as uh CT Fletcher put it, my magnificent obsession.

SPEAKER_16 41:05

Wow.

SPEAKER_09 41:06

That's my answer, I think.

SPEAKER_16 41:07

I love it. Uh when you talked about the different puzzle solving, I it makes me think I always talk to my buddies about do you remember the game Legend of Zelda?

SPEAKER_09 41:16

I absolutely.

SPEAKER_16 41:18

Okay. So I'm 47. I don't know, are you in there?

SPEAKER_09 41:21

Oh yeah. I'm I'm 38. Okay, so what's your favorite, what's your favorite Legend of Zelda game?

SPEAKER_16 41:27

I the first one on Nintendo is the only one I really remember, like the original Nintendo, but what I remember, what you made me think of, was you know when you're like going across a wall and you kind of like accidentally hit the left arrow or something and and you open the wall, you didn't even know there was a door there. Yes, and it's just an entire new land and world. Uh-huh. Like that's what that's what drumming does to me. Yes. And I'm only eight years in, so I'm looking up to all you guys as my heroes, and I love that too. Like, that's part of the drum shop road trip, is that like I got to the point in surfing where I was writing for magazines and I was working with shapers that made the boards from all the way from the you know, Northern California, all the way to Southern California, one by one, and writing stories with them and surfing and working with photographers, blah blah blah. And it it was so similar, but like in drumming, I'm at the very bottom of all that. And in surfing, I wasn't at the top, not even close, but I was more in it, right? Like I was in it, in it, right? Yeah, but like in drumming, I'm at the very bottom, and it's like I'm a little kid again. So like I'm just working on right, left, left, left, right, right, and I'm going, holy crap. I got you know, and then it always heard paradiddles, but like I didn't practice them because I wasn't good enough. Because I'm self-taught, right? And then you finally get them, and then it's just like this whole world explodes.

SPEAKER_09 43:01

What's cool is at some point it will hit that thing, it will hit you again because there are so many levels to the game that you that it's you'll hit another one of those secret walls and you and you go, oh my god, I didn't even know I didn't even know to think about it, or that you could think about it like that, it'll just snap some doors open and suddenly there's a whole new world. It it will happen again.

SPEAKER_16 43:28

Forever, huh?

SPEAKER_09 43:29

Yes, it's the coolest.

SPEAKER_16 43:31

Like this is my first time ever, ever at a drum show. I drove 3,000 plus miles to get here. Let's go. And I wanted to come the last two years, but I finally committed this year. My sister lives in Nashville. Oh man. So I got a place there. I'm gonna stay downtown tonight and just, you know, high five every drummer that doesn't have sticks in his hand.

SPEAKER_09 43:51

And dang, I wish you were down there last night. I was playing.

SPEAKER_16 43:54

Oh shoot. I tried to get here, but I I was too tired. I came up Mississippi and I Just I needed a break and had to take a nap yesterday when I was halfway. So yeah, so I started, I flew to Boston, I had this map, and I did Drum Center Portsmouth, then I did Wooden Weather, and then I then I went to the Drum Museum, Tim Northup's, and Steve Smith is one of his closest friends who lives close, and he's always in there. Wow. And so I guess the story goes, Steve said, Hey, you should have more people to the drum museum. He goes, It's not a museum, I just collecting drums. He says, No, this is a museum. And Tim is one of the most down-to-earth guys. Shout out, Tim. Everybody, and he wants people to go up there. Wow. So writes for Modern Drummers. Anyways, then where'd I go? Um, oh, then I went to then I went to Pennsylvania to who did I see down there? Uh in Westchester. Junk Rock. Michael. Okay. Oh my god, those guys are amazing. Junk Rock Drums, Vintage blew my mind. Then over to Dale's drum shop in can't remember about mid. And then I really wanted to go meet Chris at Hawthorne Drum Shop, but I I couldn't get there fast enough, and they were closed. So instead I went through West Virginia, Virginia, and you know, played the John Denver song.

SPEAKER_09 45:17

And as as one must. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 45:21

Yeah, only like 30 times, and that was a dream to go through West Virginia. And then came in here to Nashville, and I went and saw Andy at uh the drum supply co. Those guys are amazing.

SPEAKER_09 45:34

Love those guys. Like I shout out Drum Supply.

SPEAKER_16 45:36

Right? Like I felt so so welcomed. Yep. In the surf industry, that wouldn't happen in a lot of places. You would they'd be too cool. Yeah. But like in the really cool place, like, shout out Andy, like I'm not good enough drummer to be welcome like that. And I can't wait to go back this week. Thank them for welcoming into the drum community at my lower level of skill, you know.

SPEAKER_09 45:58

Brother, that's what we want is people coming in. We that's we want people to just love the drums because the drums are awesome.

SPEAKER_16 46:08

They're awesome. So then I went to Forks. Obviously, I had to go to Forks. Gotta go to Forks. You know, I got to high five. Was it Angie? She does the Wednesday thing or whatever it was. I can't remember. Friday Forks. So I got she was there, I got to high five hers, so that was cool, you know. Because I'm a kid now, all of a sudden, like I'm I'm looking up instead of like being to where like you elevated over 30 years in something, and it's kind of lonely at the top because there's so much competition, at least in surfing, you know. But like I don't know what it's like in drumming, but like I love being at the complete ground floor of something because there's no competition. I can't compete. I don't want to. I just want to learn and and just and like thank people for inspiring me and then try and play drums. And then I went to Nelson's.

SPEAKER_11 46:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 46:57

I haven't been to every drum shop in America. I really want to go to Revival up north and in uh Oregon, right? And I want to go to the West Coast drum shop in Washington. I want to go to some stuff in some different places, and I'm building a new map for the next drum shop tour. But so far, Nelson's hands down is the best drum shop I've ever felt in like dang, high price.

SPEAKER_09 47:25

Well, you got and you got a significantly better sample size than most people.

SPEAKER_16 47:29

I mean, and they're all great. Yeah. Like they're all great, like drumstoners, Portsmouth, like um they let me go upstairs because I traveled all the way there, and they they welcomed me up into the the recording room, and they're like, You want to play these? And they had like a left cast DW bronze snare and a Star Classic. It was like a $10,000 drum set, and they're recording, they're like, You want to play them? And I was it was like the worst I've ever played. I was shaking so much. So they people should go visit there. That was that was a real treat. But yeah, and I bought I brought a 1965 downbeat from Wooden Weather. Wow. And um, yeah, white marine pearl. I mean that the tone of that 12-inch tom, I almost fell over and went to heaven. So the vintage shops really, really got me. And then um, where did I go after that? Oh, and then I went to Memphis drum shop. Shout out to my boy Robinson. Robinson, if you're listening, I saw him yesterday in Memphis. He's my guy, most heartfelt, awesome guy, and Chris and Jim, but but Robinson's my guy. We we spent maybe, he gave me like an hour and a half of his time two years ago, and we were playing uh um my dream symbol, a light 22-inch Constantinople with three rivets. Wow. $856, $856. Someday I'll I'll I'll get that symbol.

SPEAKER_09 48:53

Yeah, that's yeah. That's that's that's steep, but that's what that's what it is. If you want that thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_16 49:00

Someday I'll buy and sell. And but I mean, he two years ago I said, can you just show me something? He played pocket for three minutes without really changing anything. Yeah. And Robinson, the soul, like that was the day I became a drummer. Just like you know what I mean? Yep. Like, I'm I wasn't a great drummer, but that was the day I became a drummer. Just so I would like Memphis drum shop is one of the most transcendental experiences I've ever had. I'd tell everybody go down there.

SPEAKER_09 49:30

That was is it crazy that I've never been there?

SPEAKER_16 49:33

No, I mean, I'm a teacher, I got two kids, my 18-year-old, my 15-year-old. Like, I'm you know, like this is the first time I've had time in 20 years to take a month-long road trip. Yeah, but but yeah, and then yeah, I went yesterday and Robinson happened to be there, and he remembered me, and we talked for an hour and a half about life, about drumming, about soul, about loving people, and so yeah, shout out. That was, you know, and I watch all his videos and stuff like that. You know, those guys are all my heroes, you know, like you guys, like I can't believe I'm on the pod right now.

SPEAKER_09 50:06

This is crazy. Well, uh, is is there anything left in this show that you're really excited to see that you haven't seen?

SPEAKER_16 50:15

Um, well, I just got here because I could I couldn't get here yesterday. I was going as fast as I could, 3,000 miles, but I really I don't know if Steve Maxwell has a booth here, but I would love to give them a high five and tell them thank you for you know putting in the time. You know, I mean I'm sure it's great for their business, but like it's kind of like teaching, like, yeah, it raises my family. And yeah, you know, when you go in, like you want to have a positive influence on people, but you don't really know the positive influence you're having and on who. And I feel like that's what they do to me.

SPEAKER_11 50:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 50:52

Um, and I'm sure a lot of other people, like, again, being like at the ground floor of this drum thing, like, I'm so honored to like thank them because there's things in my life and hurt and shattered heart and things like that that you go through because of different stuff, unfortunately. Yeah, and like if it weren't for your podcasts and and their drum YouTube and things like that, like I don't even know how I'd make it sometimes. It's like when Steve and his son and Noah play the drums, it's like it's like it's I'm I'm not just gonna be okay, but like they inspire me. It's not distraction, it's like dream and inspiration. And that's what my my drum trap road trip, a lot. I'll I'll probably write a story about that soon. And I think just getting out, it's like my my band, our our new uh album is called uh surf on the desert highway, all through Route 66. Love it. Because we're surfers, and the theme is are we running away or chasing a dream? Which does this seem? And I think it's both. I think sometimes we need to get away, but if we do it just for distraction, we come back and then there's the anxiety or or the depressed feelings of whatever it was. But I think if we're chasing a dream, I think the light that runs through and the energy that runs through your blood, you live inspired instead of just distracted, and that's that's kind of like my goal in life through all the the crap, you know?

SPEAKER_09 52:26

Yeah, dude. I couldn't agree more. I think you have to have, I think you have to have a dream. And I think I think the problem is people will will get a dream that's not realistic, and then when when it doesn't turn into the complete or whatever identical version of that, they allow themselves to become upset. Like, don't, it doesn't just travel towards the thing.

SPEAKER_15 52:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 52:53

Just like, and you're gonna it's gonna be so rewarding. It's that whole, you know, the the you're sure you've heard the phrase, the man who um uh enjoys walking walks further than the man who enjoys the destination.

SPEAKER_06 53:08

I love it.

SPEAKER_09 53:09

Like, just I'm so happy, I'm so pumped that you're on the walk. Right. You're on the walk, and you're and you're getting to do like all the destinations are cool. They're all getting the drum shots, but but it's so cool that you're just you're loving the whole walk. You're love like the gettings to experience all these things, and you're getting to man, I'm very excited.

SPEAKER_16 53:32

You know, like that that would be like the exactly what you said. The dots on the map got me on the road.

SPEAKER_06 53:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_16 53:40

And when I I'd never been driven through the East Coast, I didn't know how green it was, I didn't know about the Appalachians. I would stop in a town and be on the Appalachian Trail and just go for a hike, and then you see people that are doing the whole thing. Yeah, and you're like, oh my god, I wish I could just keep walking, never stop, because you feel what they feel, and that that's what the drum road trip was for me. Which the dots on the map kept me going. But yeah, it was just it was just you know, letting like being present, you know? Yep. And losing sports and and getting injured so bad that like I couldn't physically run. Yeah, because when I'm playing sports, I'm literally free. Yeah, you know, it's the problem solving of the moment, left, right, little shimmy here, little shimmy there, and all of a sudden, you know, you're scoring that's gone. So you have to recreate it. Like, if you don't replace it, I mean you're a perfect prey for all the negative things that are coming at you, right? So, like that's what I'm that's what I'm trying to do in drumming, and like today, like when I walked in, about fell over and found heaven. So, like for the rest of my life, like I knew, but like I'm so excited to be at whatever part of this I am. So, yeah, and then and started, so I got into restoring vintage drums after I got back because of talking to Bryson about his love of vintage drums and starting Nelson's and and you know what they did at Wooden Weather, and like so now I'm restoring, I've restored like a 1950s Gretch snare, and you know, somebody could have done it way better than me, but it doesn't really matter. Oh, I spent 80 hours restoring a uh uh like a 70-something tequila sunrise Vista Lite. Oh man, somebody painted it all black and green. I went from 40 grand to 3,000. Oh my gosh. And uh gloss and polish and polish, and uh, I talked to the Vista Lite guy in Louisiana, he told me how to do it, and he actually like texted me back. And he's got I don't know how many kits, and I like couldn't believe in surfing, they would have been like, yeah, kook, like beat it, you know? Yeah, like I was so yourself.

SPEAKER_09 55:45

Like, no, no, no, it's like this. We want everyone to have the nice stuff.

SPEAKER_16 55:48

80 hours, and so like now I have I got it for a hundred bucks.

SPEAKER_09 55:52

Insane.

SPEAKER_16 55:54

So yeah, like you know, the journey, just the present journey, like every grid of sandpaper was like when I play these vintage drums. I don't know if I got it from Wooden Weather or or Nelson's, but like when I walked into Nelson's, I'm like, can I play a drum set? And they're like, if you don't play, you have to leave. Right? So, like, um I'm playing like old Gretches and Ludwigs and stuff that like I would see online and dream of. It's like I had to go out into the country to feel that like when I play vintage drums, I imagine all the emotions of the men and women, positive, negative, sad, happy, like elated, that they put into that single stroke. Like everything in their soul is in that drum. And my ex-wife said, Well, I don't like drums, I like horses because they're alive. And I didn't think, it just came out of me. I'm like, drums are alive.

SPEAKER_09 56:51

Rhythm is indeed alive.

SPEAKER_16 56:54

Yeah, like all the emotions that the people before me put in those drums. Yeah, like I'm connected to the cosmic ethos, like every stroke, and like it gives me life, you know. So that's what happened to me. So that's why I'm gonna drum to this lap my last breath. I'm gonna tell my kids I love them and hit the drum, and I'm gonna die.

SPEAKER_09 57:18

What's up, dog? Amen. Flawless. Alright.

Mace Santa Maria - “Girls Stick Together”

SPEAKER_17 57:28

My name is May Santa Maria. I'm so honored to be right there on the wall. I had no idea.

SPEAKER_09 57:35

Pretty cool.

SPEAKER_17 57:36

Yeah, one of my friends texted me a photo of it this morning and was like, look at you. And I'm like, oh my god, I'm going down there in an hour. Might as well go say hi.

SPEAKER_09 57:43

Dude, dude, gotta now you can flash on the haters. I don't know who they are, but flash on them.

SPEAKER_17 57:48

My haters.

SPEAKER_09 57:49

Yeah. I don't know. Did they I don't know if it feels like anybody who's doing cool things should have haters, you know?

SPEAKER_17 57:55

Honored.

SPEAKER_09 57:55

Yep.

SPEAKER_17 57:56

Honored to have my haters.

SPEAKER_09 57:58

Alright, how's life?

SPEAKER_17 57:59

Life's been good. I played until I got home from a gig at 4 a.m. last night, so I feel crazy right now. But we're having fun. Um where were you playing? I was at it was a Broadway style gig at like a restaurant private party situation. So it was a good time.

SPEAKER_06 58:19

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 58:19

But it went on, it was six hours. Wow. I had two song breaks, six hours. What? It was crazy.

SPEAKER_09 58:28

Interesting. Well, private parties can be that way, I guess.

SPEAKER_17 58:30

Yeah, yeah, it was wild.

SPEAKER_09 58:32

Were you guys just rocking it the whole time, or was it or were there any kind of like chiller moments?

SPEAKER_17 58:36

It was an insane party from beginning to end. Like people were spraying their beers, jumping on stage. It was it was nuts. Wow. It was really fun.

SPEAKER_09 58:46

Hey, if you if you had a good time, more power awesome, more power to you.

SPEAKER_17 58:52

But just doing the Broadway gigs, I take off on a tour with 76th Street in two weeks.

SPEAKER_03 58:58

Awesome.

SPEAKER_17 58:59

So really excited for that. And that'll keep me busy up until October. Yeah. And just playing downtown in town. Pretty much it. Okay.

SPEAKER_09 59:11

What are you most stoked for at the show? How long have you been at the show now? Were you here yesterday?

SPEAKER_17 59:16

No, I've been here for just one hour today. Okay. And it's really, there's just so much going on. And I feel like it's just so impressive to see all these uh smaller companies with bigger companies. Like it the community is just really cool here.

SPEAKER_09 59:36

I agree.

SPEAKER_17 59:37

There's just so much versatility in products and players, and immediately I walked through the door, and of course, I think I even like said this on the podcast episode like chick drummers, we just have each other's back. And there's been like a group of four or five of us that just kind of linked up, got our coffees, and we've been walking around chatting, checking stuff out.

SPEAKER_09 59:58

Awesome.

SPEAKER_17 59:59

But yeah, of course, I had to come here, check that out, say hi to you guys. How has it been?

SPEAKER_09 1:00:04

It has been tremendous. Everyone has been so uh positive and loving, and there's been a lot of a lot of people have come up and expressed appreciation for the podcast, which is just it just feels crazy every time, especially when someone's like, I, you know, we're from we're from Maryland, and you know, we look we listen all the time and they'll or they'll have some fact about the show that they want to talk about. I'm like, what the that's so wild that people are listening to this, uh, especially who don't live here. It's really uh it's so cool. And the sh and the rest of the show I've I've only peripherally been able to appreciate because I truly have been just here having these kind of conversations just non-stop. It's been it's been awesome. Yeah, I mean But I gotta go hit some drums.

SPEAKER_17 1:00:54

You have to, you have to. I mean, you you guys have been every time I walk past here, there's just so many people at the booth. Like you guys have been chatting it up, and it's like well deserved. Your guys' podcast is really cool to. I feel like the music community in Nashville is so different than literally anywhere else in the world, and you guys are putting a spotlight on that. So I think your popularity is like so well deserved.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:19

Wow, and I'm seriously, that means so much.

SPEAKER_17 1:01:24

Oh, you deserve it, man. And our again, I was telling you about the little girl gang I'm walking around with today. My friend Maho was like, dude, it's a goal of mine to get on the pod. And I was telling her, dude, when I've moved here and discovered the podcast, I was like, yeah, I'll know that that's like a milestone in my career if I can ever go on the pod, and you guys have me on, and it feels really cool.

SPEAKER_09 1:01:48

That's I I I love that. I do for anybody that is listening, and for you, but mostly if for anybody who is listening, there's no milestone. If you're playing the drums uh and you're not actively hurting other humans, I pretty much want, we pretty much want to talk to you. I think ever drummers are interesting people. That everyone's got a cool story. Uh, there was a guy who started drum, he came through just a little bit ago, and he was just telling me the story. He's like, I got a story for you. And he was telling me this amazing story of this road trip he just went on. He just like started drumming eight years ago, and uh you know, he's 48 or 47, sorry. Sorry, Sean. He's like, how dare you? And uh, but he was just like, I'm just so excited to be like in the you know, stepping into this community and like like dude, the fact that you're you're just on the journey now. It doesn't that he's like, I you know, I want to multiple people have said something about their being like I want to do something that merits that, and I don't think there are there's no thing. So thank you for making the podcast what it is by being a part of it.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:04

Wow, that was beautiful, Nate. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:07

Sorry, that was a little bit of a diatribe. I got emotional there.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:10

And now we're crying. Now we're both crying at the drummer's pod booth.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:16

It's it's a beautiful sight.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:19

Emotional.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:20

Thank you. Wow.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:21

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:21

Anything else you would like to say?

SPEAKER_17 1:03:23

Keep it up. You guys keep it up. Again, this is so cool. Speaking of There's Maho.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:30

I was just talking about.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:32

Yeah, she she needs to come here and have a conversation with me.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:34

No, she does.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:35

Yeah.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:36

Shall I chase her?

SPEAKER_09 1:03:37

Uh yeah, let's let's chase her down.

SPEAKER_17 1:03:39

All right.

Majo Herrera - “Enjoying the Process”

SPEAKER_09 1:03:45

Hello, welcome.

SPEAKER_06 1:03:46

Hello.

SPEAKER_09 1:03:47

How are you, Maho? I'm great, and you? I'm doing so well. Awesome. It's it's a beautiful day. My mic is falling over and drooping, but here we are.

SPEAKER_14 1:03:54

What's up?

SPEAKER_09 1:03:55

Well you tell me. I want to I want to know what's up with you. How's the show been for you so far?

SPEAKER_14 1:03:59

It's been great. This is my first time here. Um, so it's been great seeing I love the drummer community in Nashville. So it's been great seeing like a setting where we all get together and like I get to talk to people. I've been meeting also so many new people as well. So having a lot of fun.

SPEAKER_09 1:04:14

Yeah, I heard I heard you have a little crew that's kind of going around everywhere together right now. Kinda, yes. Cool. That's that's fun. The the drumming community, I agree, is is very cool. You get to experience it in a very real way here. Yes. Yeah, what are you most excited for? What are you most excited for in life right now?

SPEAKER_14 1:04:36

Oh wow. That's such a great question. So I I feel like I'm going a little bit through a road patch. I mean, we were talking about it earlier. I think right now what I'm looking more is just being able to keep playing music and as my main thing.

SPEAKER_06 1:04:52

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:04:53

You know, whatever setting that it is. I'm definitely looking to playing with more artists. More of their original music because I feel like it gives me like a different feeling. Not that I I love playing covers too, like that's a great thing. But like the the times that I've been able to play with artists, it has for me like you know, been able to play their music, bring it to life.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:12

Yeah.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:13

I think that's what I'm looking for the most right now. Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:17

Love that. I I hope you have many more opportunities. I'm sure you will. I'm I'm sure those things are on their way, and I see how hard you're working. It's awesome.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:25

Thank you, appreciate it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I mean, yeah. Right now I'm again, I'm enjoying the process of just practicing a lot, so I'll love that as it comes.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:33

Alright, and what are you heading to do after you leave this literal booth? What's the next place you're headed? You're like, I'm I got my eyes on this.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:42

I'm gonna go get a splash. I'm still chip.

SPEAKER_06 1:05:50

Alright.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:51

I've been thinking about it for a while and then I saw it here and I played, and I was like, Yeah, you're coming with me.

SPEAKER_09 1:05:56

Yeah, okay, that's understandable.

SPEAKER_14 1:05:58

I was on my way to That right now, actually, when you stop being so.

SPEAKER_09 1:06:02

Oh, hey, well, sorry. I will I will release you, acquire your splash, have a great show. Thank you for coming on.

SPEAKER_14 1:06:09

Yeah, thank you for having me. I appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you, Nathan.

Christian Gendics - “Welcome to Town"

SPEAKER_18 1:06:19

I'm Christian Gendix. Hell yeah. And you said you just moved to Nashville. Just moved to Nashville from Ohio. Been watching you guys.

SPEAKER_19 1:06:25

Amazing. We appreciate that support. Yeah. And this is your first time of the show. Have you been here before? First time of the show.

SPEAKER_18 1:06:30

Moved here in June. Wow. And playing on Broadway now. Look at that. You're doing the thing. Yeah. What do you think of the show so far? Have you picked up any gear or um not yet? I already bought a drum set down here already on Marketplace. Nice. What'd you pick up? Goretch USA Custom. Oh, nice. That's cool. For dirt cheap. Dirt Cheap's even better, yeah.

SPEAKER_19 1:06:51

Yeah. Yeah. Give me the quick story. What is your background? Background. How long have you been playing the drums for?

SPEAKER_18 1:06:56

I've been playing the drums forever. Yeah. Yeah. All my family played, and my mom and dad were in a country band.

SPEAKER_19 1:07:02

Really?

SPEAKER_18 1:07:03

So early on I was playing country music.

SPEAKER_19 1:07:05

So it's it's it was always meant to be that you're here now.

SPEAKER_18 1:07:08

Uh I guess so, yeah. Yeah. Always loved it. And yeah. Who were some favorite drummers, uh, maybe past or present? Oh, um Rich Redman.

SPEAKER_19 1:07:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_18 1:07:18

Have you got a chance to meet Rich yet? No, he's supposed to be here today. Haven't found him again. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_19 1:07:22

Hope you can't miss him.

SPEAKER_18 1:07:23

Same with Eric Pritchard. Yeah, yeah, I think he's coming by at some point. Yeah, hopefully I meet him. Yeah. But yeah, definitely two heroes of mine. Yeah. Hell yeah, man. Well, Christian, so good to meet you.

SPEAKER_19 1:07:32

Thanks for coming by. Thank you. Yeah, welcome to town. Thank you.

Ryan Whitt - “Keeping Things Rolling”

SPEAKER_19 1:07:40

Is it your first ever interview? Probably. Probably. Probably probably the first one where like I wasn't with a band or something. Sure, sure. Yeah. So well, thanks for coming back. Yeah, man. How has day two of the Music Skitty Drum Show been treating you?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:52

Oh dude, it's been sick. Went and saw SimPad. Bunch of folks. It's been really cool. Yeah. It's been really, really cool.

SPEAKER_19 1:07:57

You pick up any gear so far?

SPEAKER_03 1:07:59

Yeah, man. Got some drum bones uh from the drum supply spot over there. So yeah.

SPEAKER_19 1:08:04

Hold on. We didn't need to start over. What's your what's your name?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:06

Brian. Ryan.

SPEAKER_19 1:08:07

What's your last name, Ryan? Ryan Witt. Ryan Witt. Okay. Yeah, and we we met in previous drum shows. I believe. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:13

Yeah, I think so.

SPEAKER_19 1:08:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:14

Yeah, I remember seeing you guys at the at one of those clinics where the Broadway folks came in.

SPEAKER_19 1:08:18

Yeah, drum supply. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, the panel discussion that we had. Yeah, it was cool. Yeah, yeah. That was that was a really, really fun time.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:23

Yeah, pretty enlightening stuff, man. Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 1:08:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:25

It was neat.

SPEAKER_19 1:08:26

Give me a highlight of the year for you.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:28

Oh, dude. Um, just being here. It's been the first year that I've been here. Yeah. So uh have met lots of really nice folks, and everyone here is cool. You know, haven't met anybody that I didn't like here at all in Nashville as a whole. But um working with uh Chris Utley, Landon Wall, and it's just been really enlightening hearing their perspective on making music in the studio, live and everything, and uh building a lot of confidence playing with them. It's been cool. Yeah, it's been great.

SPEAKER_19 1:08:54

What's something that you're looking forward to either this summer or into the fall?

SPEAKER_03 1:08:59

Man, just keeping things rolling, really. Just I want to go to Broadway more and meet more people who do that kind of stuff. And um, you know, keep building an online presence and all that good stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_19 1:09:10

Yeah. That's the name of the game right there. Like you said, keeping things rolling. You know, it's like, as you know, in this in this career, it's like one year you could be super busy with gigs and sessions, and then maybe the next year that artist goes away or they you know they change up their musical identity or they do an acoustic tour and just keeping yourself busy and staying top of mind for people and networking and coming to the drum show. So absolutely, man.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:32

Yeah, yeah. What did you pick up around here? You pick up anything yet?

SPEAKER_19 1:09:35

Nothing, man. I I got my rice rice baby, that's what I've been picking up. Just food. But no, I'm probably gonna I'll I'll probably walk around before the show ends and see if there's any cool items, you know.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:44

Cool. Yeah, I checked out the Pearl Booth, dude. Those uh the barrel drums are pretty tripping.

SPEAKER_19 1:09:49

Have you seen the the skate decks? The skateboard decks?

SPEAKER_03 1:09:51

Yeah, dude, that's why I stopped over there. Yeah, it's cool.

SPEAKER_19 1:09:53

Yeah, that's cool. Awesome, man. Well, thanks for coming on the on the show. Yeah, it is the weekend here. Yeah, you too, buddy.

Ed Bettinelli - Thumb Thang

SPEAKER_19 1:10:04

All right, man. Well, you came by this morning and you gave me the magic handshake. Yeah. Uh tell the good people your name and who you're with.

SPEAKER_15 1:10:11

Well, I'm Ed Betnelly, and I'm here trying to bring awareness to an invention of mine called the thumb fang, which is a shaker that you're able to wear on your hand that doesn't impede or get in the way of any of the fine movement uh motor skills that you need to play your principal instrument. So um there's really nothing like it, and it people seem to be really deceptive over it.

SPEAKER_19 1:10:41

And so this this accessory attaches to your your finger, correct?

SPEAKER_15 1:10:45

Well, it's actually attached to any digit, any of your digits. Primarily your your hand. Uh I have worn it on my foot uh playing like porch gigs where I'm just using brushes. Yeah. Uh but a guitar player couldn't use it. Uh, you know, if they're playing some kind of jangly kind of guitar riff. Uh bass players, if you're slapping, uh doing a slap line, it certainly works. But it's really geared up mostly for uh uh percussion players. Yeah. You know, where you can multitask and and have that sound of a shaker in your mix and not feel like it's impeding on on playing the principal instrument.

SPEAKER_19 1:11:28

Yeah. Well, Ed, what was the genesis behind this idea, this innovation?

SPEAKER_15 1:11:33

Uh well, just the type of player I am, uh, I'm always trying to bring extra levels of tone and texture and color into my playing, and and often you find yourself holding on to something like a shaker or a miraculous or any other sound device. But if you're holding on to it and you're trying to hold on to your stick, which is something that bounces and the balance of the bounce has to do with how you hold it in your your hand, all those things start to impede and and and you know kind of uh become in jeopardy of of the function, uh, the way it would function if you didn't have something in your hand holding on to it. Right. So I was trying to figure out a way where I could uh invent something where you could incorporate that sound but not feel like you're jeopardized or or you know uh in jeopardy of uh the use of your fingers or wrist or what have you. Yeah. Super cool. Yeah, yeah. So it's it it sounds, it's filled with glass, which uh I've opened up every commercial shaker of which none had uh glass in them, and I happened on that, and the sound is a very cutting distinct uh sound. It sits in a range where it uh you know bites the low meaty bass tones that normally would bury a shaker. Yeah, and it just finds a sweet spot where it cuts through.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:02

You might hold up to hold it up to the mic and give us a little sample here. This is real close to the mic. It seems like pretty pretty minimal effortless.

SPEAKER_15 1:13:13

Oh, because I think comes alive. The the the chambers is three separate chambers, but they're they're they contain the glass evenly, so when you do shift the movement of your hand, which you often do when you're uh you're in certain stick positions, uh the the weight distribution stays consistent. Yeah, and uh the primary amount of weight sits on the back of your wrist where uh you barely feel the weight. And and really when you're doing all the nuanced stuff when you're playing the instrument, the movement comes from your wrist moving towards your fingertips. And that's where you're getting the bulk of any kind of subtle movement. And this just comes alive as soon as you move anything. Yeah, I love it.

SPEAKER_19 1:14:00

It's really uh where where can people find more information and order a uh a thumb thang?

SPEAKER_15 1:14:05

Well, through the website, which is thumbfang.com. Cool, and it's a thang. So thumbfang.com. Okay, and uh Big Bang distributes it, so they're distributing it to you know storefront stores and what have you. Yeah, but always through the website, sir.

SPEAKER_19 1:14:23

So you guys on uh Facebook, Instagram?

SPEAKER_15 1:14:26

Facebook is uh Thumbfang, Instagram is Thumb Thang. Okay. Uh DrummerZed is my handle on Instagram, so either one of those two uh handles you can get to me and get to the product.

SPEAKER_19 1:14:39

Awesome. Well you heard it here first, folks. Check out Thumb Thang. I appreciate you stopping by the booth here at the Music City Drum Show.

SPEAKER_15 1:14:45

Yeah, thanks for having me. Hope you have a great rest of your weekend. Yeah, it's it's a happening place.

SPEAKER_19 1:14:50

It's happening place. Where and where are you based? New York. New York. I'm I'm from New York myself. I'm an Albany boy upstate.

SPEAKER_15 1:14:57

Yeah, that's cool. So all right, man.

SPEAKER_19 1:15:00

Great to meet you, Ed. Thank you so much. Pleasure, like what's good. Take care.

Ory Brochet - “Orybon Drums: Sound Different”

SPEAKER_19 1:15:08

We're live for the Music City Drum Show Day two. Yeah. And you know, one of the best parts about the show is obviously we see some of the big drum companies and the usual brands and symbol companies and stick companies. But every year, it seems to be that there's new companies and new brands and new innovations in the industry. And you know a thing or two about that. So who do who do we have the pleasure of sitting down with today?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:30

Well, my name is Ori Brochet. Ori, okay. I've been uh Ori O R Y. My company name is Oribon, which was a nickname that I was given by a guy that uh I used to work with. And uh so yeah, that's me, Ori Brochet.

SPEAKER_19 1:15:44

Ori Bon, and you guys launched a new company at the at the show?

SPEAKER_00 1:15:48

Yeah, the first time I launched this was in 2005. Okay. And went through the pain of 2008, didn't quite make it over the hump. And uh I've I've been doing drums since 1991, uh, 92, and uh spent uh 10 years at DW. Was determined that I wasn't gonna uh you know be one of those guys that left and then kind of took the whole thing with me. But yeah, um in 2005 I came back into it and uh thought, well, what can I do different? What can I offer that's different? Yeah, and so that's been the whole pursuit. And I don't know, I've we've gotten a lot of great feedback of people that I've known for years, and uh we feel like we've we've got a little bit different mousetrap. What's different about Oribon? What do you guys offer? I think the biggest thing is our focus point edging. And Dom, my partner, came up with this really slick name about it. But a friend of mine named John Ferraro actually had this idea years ago, and I've deployed it and used it on my drums for all these years. And basically, the secret sauce is we just put a reinforcement ring only in the top of the drum. Okay, because the top head of the drum has a different job than the bottom head of the drum. Right. And forever drummers fight like tuning the bottom head to try to manipulate it to do what they want and make it different. So, what I've done with it is I only put the reinforcement hoop in the top, which brightens that attack, but I also cut the edges different on the top than the bottom.

SPEAKER_19 1:17:22

Oh, interesting.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:23

I do a fatter countercut on the top, and I do a just a small little kiss. So the essence of it is I end up getting my attack, and that that top head settles, and the resonance then flows out of the bottom. Very cool and the whole thing settles because of the mass on the bottom of the shell is is thinner, and so it just drops into that fundamental. And you hear it even before I put any parts or anything else on it. When you tap one of my shells with just the one ring in the raw state, it actually has a pinch bend to it. Yeah, it does a it has its own built-in drop. That's pretty cool. So that's you know, uh, of anything I do, that's really the secret sauce. I'm not trying to, you know, there's I'm not gonna try to compete with the finishing and everything. I do matte finishing, oil with staining. We rely on veneers and good grain and that kind of thing.

SPEAKER_19 1:18:12

But what is the shell type of your drums? For the different different offerings?

SPEAKER_00 1:18:15

We have three different offerings of shells. Um, our heritage line is uh Nordic is a great partner of ours and they're doing custom shelves for us. Our heritage line is a maple outer with poplar core and mahogany on the inside. Okay. And the ply configurations with a single ply, seven ply maple ring only on the top.

SPEAKER_06 1:18:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:38

The second line is a walnut line, which is one of our two Highlands, and the Highland series uh walnut has walnut, poplar, walnut sandwich, the poplar in the court. It's the old vintage trick.

SPEAKER_19 1:18:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:51

And uh seven ply maple ring on the top, of course. The third one is the new one that we've just come up to. It was gonna be cherry, maple, cherry or poplar cherry. Um but we're actually gonna do a birch combo. Oh, it's gonna be a marriage between cherry and birch.

SPEAKER_19 1:19:06

Very cool.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:07

So that one we're very excited about. We've taken some prototypes and we love what's happening with this.

SPEAKER_19 1:19:12

Yeah, and you guys have a booth here at the show, right? We do, yes. I need to come by and I want to hear how these drums sound. Yeah, yeah. You're describing them, and I can hear even like the mahogany combo. I'm guessing it's a really pretty cool, warm texture.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:24

It is, and for that, and for that offering uh on the floor, I just had to do it. It's got a 13.5 by 26 kick drum. Wow, it's got a it's got a nine and a half by 13 rack tom. Okay, and then it's got a uh 13.5 by 18 floor and a 14 and a half by 20 floor. So it's a monster. 13, 18, 20 on the toms, 26-inch kick. Where can people learn more about the drums and purchase these drums? Uh, you go to auribond.com. The site is all brand new. This is a reboot that again my partner Dominic Cosentino has come along, and uh, I've built for a long, long time, but uh I finally have a partner that understands the front end. He's a much younger guy than me, so you know he's he's definitely get working the room, getting a few marketing going and all that shit.

SPEAKER_19 1:20:16

He had the suit on, he looked apart. Yes. Is the logo uh refreshed or is that all new as well? That's all new.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:21

Yeah, logos refresh, uh sound different. Our goal is to be able to offer to drummers the ability to figure out what do they want their kit to sound like. What do they want to sound like? And so it's not just about having all kinds of variety and everything else, but it is three distinct tone woods and some different sizing options that we can give them the character that they're looking for. Yeah. That's what we're seeing. All USA. USA made, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_19 1:20:51

Now you're a drummer yourself, Ori? I am. Naturally. Yeah, I've been playing since I was eight years old. You're still playing?

SPEAKER_00 1:20:56

It's a minute, yeah.

SPEAKER_19 1:20:57

Yeah, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 1:20:58

What kind of gigs? I do church stuff. Yeah, yeah. I'm a worship drummer. Yeah. That's uh uh, you know, for years, that's been my that's what I've used the craft for.

SPEAKER_19 1:21:08

Yeah. Well, amazing. So good to meet you, Ori. And uh everyone go check out Oribon, Oribon.com, Oribon.com. Oribond drums, and uh looking forward to to hearing these drums and seeing them in person. Awesome, thank you.

Josh Blount - Lucky Drums

SPEAKER_09 1:21:26

What's up?

SPEAKER_08 1:21:27

Why don't you tell everybody who you are, first of all? I am Josh from Lucky Drums. Yeah, you are, booth number three. And uh, dude, it's been a good day. Yeah, I know about Lucky Drums, but why don't you tell everybody else? So, yeah, so if you have not heard, hand-rolled soft copper drums, aluminum drums, and steel drums.

SPEAKER_09 1:21:45

And they sound like heaven and they feel so good to play. And that's true. Uh not the last time you were here, but two maybe two or three times ago, I just literally booked some studio time just to play these drums. Because when I played them at this very show, I said to myself, those sound better than everything else. To me, that's just my own personal everyone has their own taste and the and they're entitled to it, but I enjoyed playing Lucky Drums the most. I'm biased, but I think you might be right.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:17

Yep. Yeah, dude. Yeah. Yeah, so that kid was uh that one's actually here for the first time. So the kid that you played is here. Oh, well.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:26

I might have to go say hi to it.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:27

And I've got a new one here, 22 by 12 kick, first one of those I've made. So a little more shallow than the ones we've been bringing.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:22:35

And uh it's a lot of 15-inch snare drums. Mm-hmm. So get a lot of attention this year. Well, okay, how do you feel about the show this year as compared to years prior? Um, high energy. Like crazy high energy. It's loud, it's always loud, but so much fun. The community's great. Every drum company, just high five and hugging it out. It's been a party the whole time. Yep.

SPEAKER_09 1:22:59

That's that's how I feel about it too. It's just been like super love everywhere. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:04

Yeah, man. Everybody's out here selling drums, but they're sending each other, you know, customers back and forth. And like I've I've been recomm a guy came and bought a scenario that another drum company sent to me. Like, wow.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:15

It's been awesome. Dude, love that.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:17

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:18

Is there anything that you would like to say to people listening?

SPEAKER_08 1:23:22

Yeah, so if you have not heard Lucky Drums, obviously follow us on the social media.

unknown 1:23:26

Do that.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:26

Behind the kit in person, because as good as a video is, until you play them, then just they speak differently in person.

SPEAKER_09 1:23:34

They certainly do. There's nothing like being in the room and touching those drums for yourself and experiencing that. You will understand when you do that.

SPEAKER_08 1:23:44

Yeah, so definitely support your local drum shop wherever you're at, Nashville Drum Supply House, Atlanta Drum Shop, Max Maxwell's shop in Jeffersonville, and hopefully gonna be in Drugens in Chicago this year. Love it. Yeah, man.

Matt Bover - "Best Pizza in Nashville?"

SPEAKER_09 1:24:01

What's up, Matt Bover? Yeah, what's good, brother? Oh, you know, just enjoying the show, the the festivities, seeing 10 million people that I love and appreciate. Yourself included. How are you?

SPEAKER_10 1:24:16

I'm doing good, bro. Doing good. Just finished uh playing two church services and I had it here immediately after. Love it. Yeah, doing doing pretty good. Yeah? How are you liking the show? I I love it. Uh it's really crazy. It's like so many drums. I don't know what to do. Yeah. It's like, at the same time, though, how many different ways can you make a drum? You know what I mean? It gets to the point where you see so many just drums. Yeah. And it's it's like, wow, that's that's the that's a drum. It's a drum. Yeah, yeah, it's a drum. The copy and paste, different color, you know? Yeah. No, but no, it's sick. It's sick though. It's it's really sick. I I love drums, I love cymbals, I love stupid, quirky things, so it's actually really sick. Actually, something I saw today that I didn't see yesterday that I'm kind of um pumped to check out. I didn't really get to check it out, was there was a uh like a custom wood beater company, not low boy, but kind of like that. Uh oh, interesting. Yeah, kind of like right behind other side of your booth. I'm like, oh, I gotta check that out. I love stuff like that. A little like home like you know, not like the big name, like they're like this homegrown, this out of their garage making cool little quirky things, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:32

Have you played Lucky Drums yet?

SPEAKER_10 1:25:34

I have not.

SPEAKER_09 1:25:35

Highly recommend.

SPEAKER_10 1:25:36

Well, that's exactly kind of in that wheelhouse, too. Like, solo guy, whatever, you know, making his own stuff, you know, versus like I'm kind of sick and tired of seeing like the same corporate, you know. I don't want to name names, but you know, stuff over and over again. Where like I said, it's copy and paste different finish, but it's still probably a maple show or something like that. You know, it's all the same, which is maybe a different finish this year. Yep. That's more so NAM. This is actually a little bit different than that. This has a little bit more variety. But uh no, I like the stuff like that. Like like Lucky Drums, sick. Yeah, really cool innovative ideas, and it's coming from whatever, a small group of uh guys that are just this love the game and love to innovate. And so that stuff's up my alley. I love that. And that's copper drums, right? It's copper drums?

SPEAKER_09 1:26:18

Yeah. He's got a variety of you've got but yeah, it started as just copper, and then he moved into I believe it started in just copper, but he does aluminum. He he was just on, he'd said he said the three, and I I'm trying trying to remember what the what the third was.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:30

So creative, so sick, so different. Yeah so that stuff gets me excited.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:36

Yeah. How are you liking Nashville in general? Be honest.

SPEAKER_10 1:26:39

I love Nashville. Yeah, I I love it. Uh I love everything about it. Uh yeah, I have nothing. I don't think I have anything bad to say other than uh I have yet to find uh pizza place I necessarily like. Or a Chinese place I necessarily really like.

SPEAKER_09 1:26:55

Chinese, I'm 100%. Pizza, I've found uh some great spots. Pinky Ring in Madison.

SPEAKER_11 1:27:01

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:03

You pinky ring is fire. Smith and Lens. I've heard of there, haven't been there.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:08

Oh, let's go. Let's go. Five points? I've heard of there, haven't been. Okay. You know what? It's actually not it's not right of me to say I haven't found my favorite pizza place because I've heard of like a dozen places, and people say you gotta go here, you gotta go there, and I haven't tried it. So you're right.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:22

I another one I gotta give an honorable mention to is uh Salvos. If you have a lot Oh, I've had Salvos, and Salvos is pretty good. Solid, yeah, yeah, yeah. Very, very solid. Way, way uh punches above its weight class. I'll just say that. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:35

Yeah, salvos is good. Yeah, yeah. That's the only complaint is that I when I mostly in Nashville, if I'm gonna go out to eat, it's either barbecue or hot chicken, which are my two favorite. I love both of those things.

SPEAKER_09 1:27:46

Or shabu shabu.

SPEAKER_10 1:27:47

Or shabu shabu, Korean hot pot. Yeah, that's where I was last night. I love all those things, but it's sometimes like I miss it being you know, from being from New York, he's like, Oh, you got fire, pizza places, fire, hot dog. Dogs, fire, uh, whatever. Every you know, things that you actually probably shouldn't be eating. That's actually it's a protocol.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:07

They do all that stuff really well. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:09

All the things like pasta, the things that you shouldn't be eating, bread, carbs, just like greasy nonsense, the stuff you shouldn't be eating, they do that well. So actually, it's a good thing that I'm here, actually.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:19

Well, it's good to see you doing so well, man. I love it. I love it. What would you like to say to anybody who's maybe thinking about coming to the drum show? Slash, what would you say to just anybody listening at all?

SPEAKER_10 1:28:32

If you're thinking about coming to the drum show, there's about two hours left.

SPEAKER_09 1:28:35

So I guess maybe for next year.

SPEAKER_10 1:28:39

Next year. Okay, yeah. If you're thinking about coming to the drum show, uh bring a pair of sticks. Because I was like walking around it for like two hours yesterday, and didn't I didn't bring a pair of sticks. I don't know why I didn't think about that. Didn't bring my own pair of sticks. I was walking around and I'm like, dang, there's so many things I want to hit and I can't. You know. So bring a pair of s bring a pair of sticks and bring a drum key because there's about a dozen drums that I hit that I'm like, uh, I yesterday, this is another thing. I brought a drum key yesterday, didn't bring sticks. I I don't know what was wrong with me. I was I was actually in a rush yesterday. So uh I brought a drum key yesterday, didn't bring a drum key today, which I'm kind of angry about. But so there's a couple of drums that I'm like, I hit, I'm like, uh, I don't really like that. So yesterday I had a drum key, adjusted it to how I like it. I'm like, okay, now I see why this is fire, why this is good.

SPEAKER_09 1:29:20

Yeah, you know, I'm not gonna I'm not gonna lie, I I know at least one brand that could could use a little help in that department. Yeah, yeah. And uh yeah, I won't I won't name any names on the air. But yeah, that'll I was noticing that and going, what's happening? This is your o this is your opportunity to be represented. Yes. And this is what you're this is the face you're putting forward. It's crazy.

SPEAKER_10 1:29:44

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So uh bring a drum key, bring a pair of sticks or two, and get re maybe even bring a set of earbuds or headphones, because it is kind of loud in here, it's kind of crazy. But uh bring the good hangs, that's for sure. And you'll you you won't leave having a bad time. Yeah, it's incredible. Love it. Thank you, Matt. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And keep and and keep on practicing. That's definitely the number one thing everyone's gotta do, no matter who you are. Yeah. And count. And count, yeah, yeah. Count to four at least. You got gotta count to at least four. At least four. Come on, what is this? Like first grade math? Come on. Count to four, brother. All right, perfect. All right, National Drummers Podcast.

Greg Hersey - "Innovation in Percussion Setups"

SPEAKER_09 1:30:36

What's up, Greg? What's up?

SPEAKER_01 1:30:38

Tell me what you're doing here. Here, uh, it's pretty easy, just hanging out, you know, connecting with new friends, old friends, uh you know, checking out all the cool gear. Yeah. Trying to save my hearing, it's pretty loud, but you know, it's a drum show. It's gonna be loud. It's all right. It's a package deal. But uh yeah, just happy to be in Nashville. It's always a cool vibe here, and um, yeah, it's just this, it's always cool to really think about the drumming community and live in it. And uh, you know, everybody's so supportive, and we're all just doing our thing, like just being drummers, checking out cool stuff and sharing our stories and checking in with people. So it's uh it's awesome. It's a it's a great time.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:20

I said it, but why don't you tell people who you are who are listening so they know you're just not a guy named Greg. You're also more things.

SPEAKER_01 1:31:29

Yeah, so uh my name's Greg Hersey, based out of Jacksonville, Florida. Um band director, educator, percussionist, so it's you know, this is what I do for a living, which I'm grateful to be able to do and say. And um yeah, you know, I try to do like little cool hybrid setups with incorporating different percussion instruments, it's not just drum set, um, and just having a good time.

SPEAKER_09 1:31:54

So yeah. Yeah, you do a really cool thing. And I enjoyed your clinic before. Oh, thank you, thank you. Yeah, well uh was that was that last year?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:02

Uh 2024.

SPEAKER_09 1:32:03

2024, okay. It's they in my brain they blend together, but I just oh, that was one that stood out in my memory. Oh, thank you. I appreciate that, man. So among the very many beautiful things which are available to be hit, uh, what is most exciting to you this show?

SPEAKER_01 1:32:23

Ooh, this show. I gotta be careful about what I say. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Honestly, and I and I had talked to him, you know, prior to the show. WTF Percussion has some really, really cool stuff, some new products. So, you know, I'm always about, again, that that idea of creativity and unique sounds and something that I can, you know, incorporate into my setups and just having that unique voice that is um, you know, not reinventing the wheel, but something that catches people's attention. So um they they got some really cool stuff. They're right next to Ludwig, you know. Obviously love Ludwig, a Ludwig artist, so they always have great stuff. But honestly, I was just talking to somebody uh at Schlagworth, like the all the cajones, incredible stuff over there, like really high quality.

SPEAKER_09 1:33:07

Um, that's a hard sell for me, man, with the cajon. When you say incredible cajone, why should I, a drum set player, give a shit about a cajon? You tell me.

SPEAKER_01 1:33:18

Well, you know, they they they have a lot of options, especially with um, you know, some of the the bass cajones and the foot pedal and just being in a different headspace and thinking, you know, small gigs, maybe like dance classes, like different uh applications of that to where you know I'm not just sitting on a traditional cajon tearing up my back, tearing up my hands. Yep. Um so they they have some different options that the the quality of sound is just it kind of blew my mind. Even even in a louder expo hall, I was like, dude, this sounds so good. So uh just imagine that being mic'd up and stuff. So I just uh again always finding or trying to search for those uh percussion instruments that just you know have a quality sound and things that I can see myself playing, you know.

SPEAKER_09 1:34:02

Love it. Yeah. Is there any last thing that you would like to say uh to any possible listeners who maybe who haven't been to the show yet? Or anybody at all, really?

SPEAKER_01 1:34:12

Yeah, I mean, I think specifically to the show, like, come out. Like, even if it's for a day, a couple hours, two days, you make a whole trip about it. But you know, it goes back to my beginning point of just community. Like yesterday I came here with real, not any like real plan, and I just I talked to people for like felt like forever, and it was great. Like I walked away with like, man, I met some new friends, you know, hanging with with people that you know work at the different companies that I'm proud to endorse and and work with. So it's just that camaraderie. Like, even if you just come for the networking and hang, like, that's a huge part of it. The the gear is a bonus, you know, and uh thankfully I I I didn't blow too much money this year, and I'm sure my wife is happy about that. But uh, you know, the show's not over yet, so there's always that chance to just to have to say, sorry, hon, I know what I said, but I really hated this. Yeah, so I I think the takeaway is just you know, come out to shows like this, you know, when you can, when it makes sense for you, and it's a great time, for sure. Love it.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:16

Thank you. Oh, perfect timing. There we go.

Jacob Robinson - "Learning by Doing"

SPEAKER_04 1:35:24

Anyway, how are you? Man, I am I'm great. I'm great, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:35:29

Yeah. Yeah. What's what's new? Are you I we both I feel like before I deleted Instagram, I know both of us had kind of just not posted anything in a long time. Like, I wonder what Jake is doing.

SPEAKER_04 1:35:42

Dude, I oh my lord. Oh yeah. Uh for those that can't see, uh I just witnessed a better drummer in my presence. His name is Leighton. You guys should check him out. But anyways. Brainard. Yeah, right. Bra Brain Nerd. Brainard. Brainerd. Um, yeah, dude, I've just kind of been ducked off, being a lot more selective about the gigs that I'm taking. Yeah. Which I'm I'm fortunate to be in a position to do that. Yeah, yeah. But a lot of my focus has been shifted outside of drumming and more into a production role.

SPEAKER_09 1:36:14

Um I there was, yeah, I was I was curious. I knew you were heading in kind of that direction. Tell me more about that.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:20

So, um, over the past year or so, I've been building out a home studio. Cool, cool, cool. It's I'd say it's like 90% of the way there. The last piece of the puzzle is like a drum isolation booth, but the drums sound great in the room already, so I'm not in any rush. Right. Um, it kind of all started when one of the bands I'm in, we were gonna track a record, and uh it was just me and one other dude, and we were like, okay, so how are we gonna do this?

SPEAKER_11 1:36:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:36:44

And you just made it happen? I just I kind of learned on the fly, and you know, since then I've gotten other projects, and people are asking me more. I'm I wouldn't consider myself like a producer, right?

SPEAKER_09 1:36:57

Right, or an engineer, anything like that. Well, you're moving into that role, learning those skills. Yes. How how hard for you as like going into it for the first time, how hard has it been? What because I'm like, I want to eventually get my own setup at home too, and I'm just so I'm so slow in doing it, uh it's really pathetic.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:16

So I think um, I'm not sure which side of that you're asking the question from, but I'll answer both. So from getting into the home recording side, kind of just start with an interface, yeah. You start with mics, from there, maybe you add like an EQ or a nice preamp. You just kind of look on Facebook Marketplace, see, okay, you know, if that's that's going for $75, let me let me try this thing out. And you get to the point where you've got all these different combinations that may be wrong, but first of all, who cares? Yeah if it sounds cool, it sounds cool. Yeah, um, and in the process, you're learning more about that world. And then from a producer's standpoint, I think my biggest struggle getting into that is turning off my fusion brain and the brain of mine that I very much love, but is not necessarily uh palatable to 90% of the word world. True, true. Um so turning that off and thinking less of oh cool, how do I fit a septuplet in here? And going more towards, yeah, no, I really don't think tambourine should be there. No, um this needs less, this needs less, this needs less. I I sit down, I do a take, I listen back, a week later I say, no, this whole thing is wrong. Yeah. Go simple, go simple, go simple. It's really it the the dichotomy between the two is very interesting.

SPEAKER_09 1:38:32

It's very humbling too. Oh, dude, totally. There's there's a I think I feel like there's like a yin and yang to it. Exactly. Because because all of the best, all of the the goats, they can they can do the thing across the board. Like they know how to, they can absolutely tear your nuts off. And you know, but then they know they're like, well, actually, that this whole thing, this is all too much. This is way too much.

SPEAKER_04 1:38:55

It is. I think one of the biggest um the biggest lenses I've tried to look through in terms of inspiration for that, especially being a drummer in my position, is Dennis, dude. Like you'll listen to um oh man, I'm blanking on the name of the track. Andy Prado, his band plays it a lot at the at the Spud. Oh Don Blackman track. Okay, okay, yeah, yeah. That's Dennis, and the whole time it's just the most delicious shuffle groove, which is gorgeous. Then you fast forward, you listen to him on Schofield, and you're like, what is going on here? Yeah, yeah. This is in but his ability to kind of go back and forth, and same thing with like Vinny, man.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:32

Gosh. Vinny's, yeah, Vinny's obviously like the when I think of the example, I think Vinny and Gary are my- Go back? Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:40

Yeah, oh, of course. Of course.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:42

Like, oh, you can just what you can just lay it down, and when you want to open it up, it's all the way open.

SPEAKER_04 1:39:49

Oh yeah. No, there are no rules. Like it's it's it's a bloodbath.

SPEAKER_09 1:39:53

You know, um, man, I'm blanking on what the what the record is, but uh Billy Freeman hipped me to it, I think it's called images, and it it uh it's it's recorded, I can't remember what the terminology is. It's Vinny? It is Vinny. It's Vinny, okay, and it's all it's all recorded live uh simultaneously, and it's one take from the start of the album to the end. And in the middle, in like 30 minutes into the record, Vinny takes a solo that's brutal, but you're like, it's if you're doing that at 30 minutes in, you're doing it no, like I've got this in the back. You know what I mean?

SPEAKER_04 1:40:37

I mean, yeah, they're probably going straight to tape, like you cannot make a mistake. You can't fix that. That's literally. You listen to that record you did with Holdsworth, um, Secrets. Yeah, dude. That first track, City Nights, the whole band was a one take. One take, dude. One. That's that's it. One take, no edits, no comps, one straight through, that's what made the record. And then the same thing, the album after, actually, it was either before or after Secrets, uh, Wardencliffe Tower.

SPEAKER_06 1:41:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:07

Uh there's a song on there, Against the Clock. The whole record was um Gary Husband, minus this one track that Vinny was on, and Vinny just said, Okay, you're gonna give me one track, cool, I will steal the record. Here's Blood. There's a solo on there that's like oh no.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:24

What track is he on?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:25

Uh it's called Against the Clock off of Wardencliffe Tower. It's a green record with the infamous, you know, Tesla Tower.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:33

Right, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I've like my Holdsworth knowledge is uh mostly around 16 men of Tame.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:42

Oh, I mean, but that's that's yeah, that's cool.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:45

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:45

Idolon, the end of the record? Oh yeah. Gary over those hits? What are you doing, dude? What is that?

SPEAKER_09 1:41:52

Alright, let's talk the show for a for a couple seconds. How long first of all, when did you get here?

SPEAKER_04 1:41:56

Uh probably about an hour ago.

SPEAKER_09 1:41:57

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:41:58

How are you liking it so far? It's cool. Uh seeing a lot of familiar faces, which is nice for me considering I'm a hermit these days. Dude, feel I've I feel that in the most heavy way. Dude, the amount of people that have come up to me and been like, oh my god, your hair. It's gotten so long.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:15

Yes, it's luscious.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:16

I'm like, it's damn, have I really been in the house that long, dude? Yeah. Do I need to come outside more? Dude, I need a tan, dude.

SPEAKER_09 1:42:23

I feel dude, I feel I feel like that's a it's a habit. I need to rebuild. I've never been very good at it. I'm I need to rebuild the habit. Eventually, there will be time in my life for it to happen again and be social, but uh all right. Show things though. What are you excited to see? I know you, and I know you know you have a list of things like I'm gonna go see this and this and this.

SPEAKER_04 1:42:43

Um, I mean, I feel like my every year list, I always check in with my dudes at Creative Percussion. They've taken very good care of me over the years, and I love all of them. Kevin is like family to me. Um, of course, come see you and Dan. Say hi. Other than that, it's just the friends we made along the way.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:00

That's the real One Piece. No, it isn't, ladies and gentlemen. Anybody who hasn't watched One Piece, I promise you, the One Piece is not going to be the friends we made along the way, but that's gonna be a bonus. I promise. That's what Otis said. Everybody shut up about it. I'm sorry, I'm a nerd. Get over it.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:17

Listen, man, that's out of my realm. You want to talk Star Wars, I'm here. Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:22

Okay.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:22

Um I've been playing the Force Unleashed again for the first time since I was eight years old, because apparently they remastered it on Switch.

SPEAKER_09 1:43:30

60 FPS, like native 4K. I never did play it, and I I was aware of it being a badass game.

SPEAKER_04 1:43:38

There's a reason that he's not canon, because he just kills everyone. It does not matter. Luke Skywalker, dead. Chewbacca, dead. Who's that? Stark Starkiller. Starkiller. Oh yeah. Great name, dude. Emperor dead. Vader dead, really? Oh yeah. The books are even better. If you haven't read those. No, I haven't. Ooh, I got a copy of. Alright, alright, alright.

SPEAKER_09 1:44:02

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SPEAKER_19 1:44:30

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