How To Mentally Prepare For Plastic Surgery ft. Stacey From Pop Recovery Systems

In this episode of the best plastic surgery podcast "Big Butts No Lies", our host & plastic surgery consultant Mavi Rodriguez is joined by Stacey Renee, head of Pop Recovery Systems of Mental Health, to dive deep into the emotional and mental aspects of the plastic surgery journey. They shed light on the transformative process that goes beyond the physical changes and explore the critical role mental health plays before and after surgery. Here are some thought-provoking questions they discuss:

1. How can you mentally and emotionally prepare yourself before having plastic surgery?

2. Why is it important to change your mindset and habits before having plastic surgery  for long-term success and satisfaction?

3. In what ways might undergoing plastic surgery impact a person's confidence, relationships, and the biggest question: does plastic surgery lead to divorce?

4. How does Pop Recovery Systems support mental health in this process?

Listen in as Mavi and Stacey delve into these discussions, highlighting not only the beauty of transformation but the strength and resilience required to truly shine from the inside out after plastic surgery.

About Stacey:
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Stacey Renee leads the Mental Health department of Pop Recovery Systems. With over 25 years of experience, she ensures women receive optimal mental health support. Her leadership empowers her team to overcome mental challenges and provide unparalleled service.

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Transcript

Mavi Rodriguez [00:00:05]:
Hey, guys. My name is Mavi, and I've spent the last 14 years in the plastic surgery and beauty industry, working alongside some of the best plastic surgeons in the country. Now I don't work for anybody, been so I have unbiased opinions about hundreds of surgeons from across the world, and I can help you achieve the body of your dreams. Been Hey, guys. Do I have the episode for you today? We always talk on this show about the mental health roller coaster. Been and I feel like we've never really gone deep dived into what does it mean? What does that even mean? What's the mental health roller coaster? So today, I'm super excited to have Stacey Renee from Pop Recovery Systems and we're gonna really deep dive into what does it mean to have a mental health coach? What is the emotional roller coaster, that women go through and men through during surgery and what are we doing to help them through that journey? Been Stacy is the head at Prop Recovery Systems of Mental Health and she's really gonna take us through seen the patient experience. Stacey, thank you so much for being on today.

Stacey [00:01:15]:
Absolutely. Thank you for having me.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:01:18]:
Well, you know what? This week, I had a, one of my girls say something to me that been really got me thinking. She asked me, does cutting the skin because she had a tummy tuck. Does cutting the skin released stored trauma that was there and I thought, well, that makes sense that it would. Been I don't know. I think it does. Let's let's talk to the experts. So, Stacey, take us through all of the mental health.

Stacey [00:01:52]:
Been The skin the skin removal itself does not remove the trauma. I think that's the big surprise to everything as people are like, oh, I've been living with this, you know. Been It's been weighing on me my whole life, you know. And then when they remove the skin, they, you know, maybe that's a myth. I don't know that everyone thinks that way, but there's a lot that think, okay, once some skin is gone. You know? That's not true. The trauma is still in in the cells in our body, been You know, and sometimes we react. So in the mental health part on this roller coaster, what we try to do is give people coping some skills that can help them respond rather than react and to understand the trauma and to have that relationship with the that trauma because been Having that relationship with that trauma, it's been sitting there.

Stacey [00:02:40]:
And for whatever reason, it's been hid here, hid there. And even sometimes people have had some therapies and things and understood and worked on their trauma. But going through a surgery process is really interesting because, been You know, when people what I see is when people are told when they have to have an emergency surgery, people are like, been Oh my gosh. I would have surgery and they start freaking out. Right? But when people schedule surgery, there's a different mindset to that, You know, and so oftentimes, they've seen before and after. It's great that they can achieve these. They really can. But the problem is is they don't see in between a lot of times.

Stacey [00:03:21]:
And we're fortunate that we have a lot of patients and clients and friends that been We're so transparent that post all of that journey on here. But still, we as human beings, sometimes we think we're the exception sent to the rule or or had that feeling, and we don't even acknowledge her that feeling until we're on the post surgery side. So been With Prop Recovery Systems, we get to work with people and prepare them. I always tell people, pre surgery prep leads to post surgery success, you know, so because it really does, getting in that mindset. Because when I ask women, especially, but I'm sure it's the case for men, we're getting to work with more and more men. Been What are you doing to prepare for your surgery? You know? And they're like, well, they're getting their families ready. They're getting their jobs ready. Been I'm like, no.

Stacey [00:04:09]:
What are you doing? So we do, you know, try to encourage them to take 30 days before their surgery to take 30 minutes a day been to get aligned because there is a lot that goes towards surgery, and a lot of people don't realize that the all all the things that you need to prepare for surgery, You know, the supplies, the caretakers, and everything else. That can be overwhelming. Right?

Mavi Rodriguez [00:04:34]:
Been So there's a feeling of

Stacey [00:04:34]:
overwhelming pre surgery and then also the excitement and anxiety. And as it gets closer to surgery, some The excitement turns more to anxiety. So helping them process through that. Sometimes anxiety has nothing, been A lot of times, has nothing to do with the surgery or the surgeon themselves because we only work with, you know, reputable, qualified, board certified surgeons. Been So sometimes it has nothing to do with the surgery themselves. Sometimes it is from the past trauma, catastrophizing. Thinking what if this happens? What if that happens? Been waiting for the other shoe to fall. A lot of people live life like that.

Stacey [00:05:10]:
That's their default system. So we are very fortunate and we hope that what we do in the presurgery to prepare them for the post surgery. And thing is this skin removal in itself won't bring them confidence because a lot of people say, oh, I want confidence. Seen And they will be confident with the way that they look. Will they be confident with the way that they feel? So what we work it with is helping them heal So that they can feel better and have that self esteem because they're gonna develop self esteem through the surgery process or not. Been Sure. They they had the opportunity to heal the inside while the the physical part's healing too.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:05:52]:
Been and I feel that is so amazing. Honestly, before this journey, before this been Pop Recovery Systems journey. I don't think we had any resources been 4 women who were on their plastic surgery journey for their mental health and for their nutrition all in one place. Been that was one of the main reasons why when, I met you guys, you and Laura. If you guys go back to listen to our episode of Post Op Depression. I had Stacy and Laura from Pop Recovery Systems. Laura shared her story of how she went through the surgical journey and experienced post op depression. And on that episode, I said, you're my first a girl who has ever been so open to really want to come up and talk about it.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:06:47]:
Because I hear about it all the time and I'm always asking, do you wanna come talk about it? Do you wanna talk about it on the show? And they always shy away from it. But Laura was the first one been who really stood and said, hey, this is what happened to me and I know I'm not alone. And when she approached me, I I knew this is something that we need in our community because I've had heard it so many times from women experiencing it been during their surgical journey and like I've said so many times before, there's only so much that I can do to help them other than refer them to somebody who is a professional that can really help them and it's kind of, an an area a gray area because, like, we do have doctor Alan Goodwin. We do have some mental health experts who specialize in plastic surgery, but it's not very many and you really have to look. So when, Laura approached me with all of this, I was like, oh my god. This is gonna be amazing because so many women need this. Seen the mental health aspect but also the nutritional aspect. Because how many times Do I see or any of you guys if you're looking online and you see Tummy Tuck incisions that are opening up, Brachios seen that are open, they're not closing right and a lot of times the doctors are blamed or, the staff is blamed or something happened but in reality, it's that patient's not eating correctly, they're not having enough protein, they're not eating enough calories, their body is been is, not eating and they can't heal.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:08:26]:
And that nutritional aspect is so important as well As the mental health aspect because we all know, they all go together. If there if your stomach and your gut is happy, overall you're probably gonna be pretty happy. So, been in the in the course of working together with Pop Recovery Systems, finding sent a team of women who really supported each other, really believed in the mission that we were working together with, and believed that our patients and our girls, our clients deserved it. They deserve better. You deserve better. You deserve to have a full a full journey encompassing everything that you need. So it's not just you guys so many times. Y'all know I helped so many girls do their surgery and I can't tell you been how many times we're at the end, we're at the surgery and then it's like well, now what? Been okay.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:09:30]:
I had the surgery, like, all of this hyper focusing that had been happening before surgery to get to surgery day. And then it's like, okay. Now hurry up and wait and heal.

Stacey [00:09:42]:
Yeah. It's like the 6 weeks before surgery with the excitement, it's like, oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. You know, it seems so long. But then, the 6 weeks post surgery seems even longer because they most sent the clients that I work with, they didn't expect that it's gonna take this long. 6 weeks seems even longer, seen You know, on the post surgery side and this is the thing. That's why presurgery prep is so important because been They don't know that they're gonna be laid up for this amount of time, that they're not gonna be able to do the things that they used to do for a period of time. They're they're gone going to be tired.

Stacey [00:10:21]:
You know, that's the biggest complaint is they're so tired in in everything and and it's part of the process. But been To get mentally prepared pre surgery helps, you know, and even so, the healing process, like you said, nutrition, you know, and if they get their mindsets, been create those sustainable results. The surgeons that we work with want them to have sustainable results. They're not just a number. You know, it's not just an in and out. And I was speaking with somebody yesterday. You know, some people go out of the country for surgery. And in some countries, seen The behavior is different than in America, you know, as far as the surgery process goes.

Stacey [00:10:58]:
So the surgeons here that we work with some really care. And they want the people to have the best surgery experience, but they also want them to have those sustainable results. They don't want them to have to go and have a revision, You know? That's why they had they have us to help the patients because not all the time gets the patients exposed to trauma, seen like you're saying, you know, at the doctor's office. They may not say this, you know, and and to be able to process that and go through it, I've had ladies who been I canceled their surgeries before but really wanted surgery. You know, they really wanted to to have a difference, but been They maybe experienced domestic violence. I've also had women on the other side who I've worked with, you know, who have had the surgery, been And then they didn't feel sexy on the other side once they got that body because of childhood trauma, you know, that happened to that little body. So been To be able to help them process these feelings and come out and develop this team and be able to let go mentally and emotionally of what was wearing on them, You know, that was in that weight because the mental and emotional abuse doesn't go away just because the skin goes away.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:12:13]:
Let's talk about self sabotage because, one something you just touched on which is the eating and the mental health and, you know, having the surgery is not gonna be a magical cure. I've told you guys so many times. I was one of those people that I thought it was, but it didn't and then it led me on to this full self discovery, you know, journey to be the best version of myself. Been something that we do come across a lot is women who have the surgery but they don't change their eating habits. Been They don't change the things that they were doing. And then before we know it, they're back at the surgeon's office, the surgery didn't work or my results didn't stay or you know, they're blaming the surgeon but in reality, been it's they did not maintain their results.

Stacey [00:13:06]:
That's it. That's it. Sustainability. You know, it it does. It calls for a different mindset change to be determined, you know, also to carry this through because just okay. After 6 weeks of healing, been like, okay. I'm done. I can do it because surgery doesn't remove bad habits.

Stacey [00:13:24]:
Been And bad habits have consequences. They just do. They always will, you know. So surgery doesn't doesn't fix all of that. Been So there is a self sabotage. And so it's there there's something we say, you know, in recovery field the recovery areas, you the same thing and it got you here isn't gonna, you know, just you you just can't, you know. You just can't have the same thinking that got you to where you were when you do a transformation. Some information.

Stacey [00:13:54]:
Because if you don't transform the thinking with the transformation, it's just not gonna work. So been Being able to to, you know, Laura, our beautiful bold beautiful, you know, our beautiful bold leader, Laura, says that, been You know, the only thing more expensive than getting this and getting it done right and making these sustainable life changes, being committed to it, been It's getting a revision. And that's what happens if we had that self sabotaging. If we don't take a look at the bad habits and Embrace. You know, a lot of this is about acceptance. We work with so many women. You know, you help to empower women. Laura is a very powerful woman.

Stacey [00:14:37]:
You know? Been And so that's why it's so beautiful to be on this journey and to be able to watch women be able to some Have their voices. We've had win we have women tell us, you know, I gained my voice through this recovery system because been Until they have people listen to them and validate them, you know, because we validate, but we also have compassion and accountability, some You know? So to be able to be heard and to to hear their words without somebody telling them What they're supposed to think or feel, but to help guide them to empower themselves, that's what we do, you know.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:15:16]:
And you know what I love on the other been inside. They really do learn, and they really do listen. But what I wanna say is, been how many times have we had somebody who was not ready to learn? Who was not willing to listen? And who was not been ready to change. And what happened?

Stacey [00:15:40]:
Well, they some Typically go back to the same it's the same thinking. It's that spiral. Right? Because we can spiral up or we can spiral down. Been But the problem is is that if we don't change our thinking you know, this is why Laura founded this is because, been You know, she she found after 3 months that, you know, she wasn't feeling that confidence that she had thought she was going to feel post surgery, you know. Been and so we just will will go crazy on the other side. It's peanuts and there'll be nothing that's ever gonna make us happy been Until we you know, the surgery itself won't make us happy, you know. And the surgeons are amazing. It's not the surgeon's been I think that that's what some of the surgeons that we work with are realizing, you know, that they want they their intention is just like ours, have those sustainable results because we hope that after women do the program for 12 weeks that those things that we got to work on in those 12 weeks help them to continue to grow, thrive, and build their lives.

Stacey [00:16:48]:
You know, we don't it's not like that's why it's 12 weeks is we don't want them to Go back to the same behaviors that made them, you know, feel like they were defeated. You know? And I'm not saying everybody feels defeated because I'm gonna have surgery too, and I'm not feeling defeated, and I'm not saying that. What I'm saying is is that their biggest fear oftentimes when I ask women, been So what is it that you wanted to look like? What is it, you know, to work on? How they wanna look? How they wanna feel the meditations, visualizations? Been So a lot of times women have told me, I just don't wanna look like I did. I just don't wanna feel like I did. And so been When I work with women, you know, I have this thing that that we do with the women. And hopefully, you know, we are going to experience been defeats in our lives is when it's human beings, you know. And so but it's my goal when women finished this program. I always do this, you know, with my girlfriends.

Stacey [00:17:46]:
This is like, look, this is what we do as women. We push her back, Deborah, us with the chest the shoulders back, the chest out, and then we walk, you know. And that's what an empowered woman does. Right? Is we we just been handle these things. We don't let them defeat us. We've had defeats, but we don't let them be defeated. We don't have to be defeated. And so that's my hope that women walk away with this program is just little by little.

Stacey [00:18:13]:
We don't get everything all in one day and probably not in a lifetime. Been Little by little, we continue to go up spiral upwards rather than downwards. And it does take a mindset and a change and a shift. And been Certainly, surgery is a transformation, and we have the opportunity through that to transform on the inside as well as outside.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:18:35]:
Been Absolutely. And, you know, I I really love that you said that that the surgery is the opportunity. Mhmm.

Stacey [00:18:43]:
To, been,

Mavi Rodriguez [00:18:43]:
like, it's like a trigger for change. And I I feel that, like, to the root of my soul because, been like I've talked about my own journey. After my surgery, I looked exactly how I wanted to look, everything was been great. I'm I'm I was happy in a lot of parts of my life, but there was a part of my life that I wasn't happy in. And I thought during my surgery that this part of my life would improve and it did it. And that triggered me, like, to the max because I had I had set my hopes on, hopefully, this will make been Me feel better, be better, in this relationship and then everything's just gonna be better. It's gonna be great. My life's gonna be amazing.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:19:31]:
And then when it didn't happen exactly like that, my life was great and amazing in other areas of my life that I had put focus into And the area where I really needed the improvement, it wasn't there and it really I started therapy, I started, really trying to learn about myself and why I was feeling unhappy, why I was feeling why I would feel triggered by certain things. Been and it wasn't it was the surgery. It's so funny because I get this question all the time. Been does plastic surgery cause divorce? And I've seen I've seen it. I've seen so many women. Right? Like, thousands of women go through surgery journeys. Not all of them get divorced. A lot of them have amazing surgery journeys and they have amazing partners and they're supportive and then they go on and they're like, the best thing that ever happened to them and their husband.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:20:28]:
Been they're so happy. Right? But then, on the other side, I've seen, so many times situations where women have surgery been where they tell me I'd you know, me and my girls, we get close. We we get like this. Been they tell me, you know, I wouldn't leave before because I didn't think anybody would want me. I didn't think anybody would been love me. I didn't think I was beautiful enough or pretty enough. And during the surgery, after I had my surgery and a lot of times they're doing surgery by themselves, the the partner's not there, not being supportive, they're doing it for themselves all alone. Been and then they come out on the other side and they start to feel beautiful and sexy been and alive again and they feel that in them and then it boosts their confidence to believe like, I deserve better than this.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:21:27]:
I deserve more than this treatment that I'm getting or I deserve more than seen what I can what this relationship is offering and then they do go on to get divorce. So whenever people ask me like, does plastic surgery cause divorce? Been That's a really hard question to answer because I wanna say it doesn't, because it really doesn't. It's the transformation that that woman is going through been To believe that she deserves better, and to believe that she can have the the love of their life, you know, be treated how they wanna be treated, and they don't have to take what they were accepting when they thought that they couldn't get any better.

Stacey [00:22:08]:
Been That's that's so true because like I was saying, you can't develop confidence without not true confidence without developing self esteem. Seen And if, you know, when we go through this process, we do. We look at some things, you know, because we have a lot of time to think and that's what pre surgery prep is about. Because when you're in post surgery, while you can't exercise, you can't distract yourself from any of the things that you either distract, you know, been distracted yourself, you know, from because sometimes we do distract ourselves through actions, you know? So you can't do that been surgery. So you do have a lot of time to think and evaluate, and you can spend that time, you know, thinking on the positive end and and creating that mindset and everything. Seen and I wanna say something else that, you know, the trauma part, you know, because a lot of times in trauma, people are fragmented. You know, it causes us to fragment when we're waiting for that other shoe to fall. So we learn to, you know, dodge and and everything else.

Stacey [00:23:02]:
And so that's a part of distraction as well, You know, and so what happens is what we're helping people learn pre surgery is how to regulate themselves. Once we can regulate, we can be open to developing better coping mechanisms, you know, and everything. Because we talk about addiction, you know, with recovery. And so sometimes it's hand to mouth no matter what that addiction is. And so we go mind to paper been A lot of time, you know, with recovery or we have somebody to talk out different things we've never thought about. And so sometimes when some Girls like you're saying, they get the surgeries. They start thinking about things they never thought about. And there's other possibilities instead of, been You know, they they've learned because you you do develop a steam.

Stacey [00:23:46]:
You're coming through something that's that's gonna change your

Mavi Rodriguez [00:23:50]:
been Yeah.

Stacey [00:23:51]:
It's hard.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:23:52]:
These mommy makeover recoveries are tough, you guys. They're not easy. They're tough.

Stacey [00:23:59]:
Been Yes. And it it does. I was talking to somebody yesterday, and I said, you know, the thing is is when you're on the other side, sometimes it feels isolated. Sometimes you feel alone because I was talking to somebody who had a surgery before, you know. And she's and I said, you know, this thing is been I always suggest to people to get ready to to do your pre surgery prep. Your pre surgery prep. Not everybody else is, you know, preparation for you to have surgery. You're a prick because you're gonna be the 1 laid up for surgery, and you're gonna be the one who can't physically do stuff.

Stacey [00:24:32]:
And sometimes it seen like the whole world's going on while you're late.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:24:38]:
That, you know, I tell my girls all the time. That's probably one of the things that they don't expect the most. They and so many times before, I think now there's a lot more information women are looking online to get educated on what to expect during recovery. But before, been, just a few years ago, just a couple of years ago, they were going preparing preparing preparing preparing up until the day of surgery and then that was it. Been then after that, I was like, oh, okay. Well, I didn't even think about this. I didn't even think about that. I hadn't thought about, been You know who's gonna be getting my groceries? Who's gonna be doing these other things? Because I think the hardest thing during the mommy makeover recovery is you do not, been you're no longer able to get up and go.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:25:26]:
Right? You can barely get up and go to the bathroom. You can barely get up and go walk to the kitchen.

Stacey [00:25:32]:
So, been a

Mavi Rodriguez [00:25:34]:
lot of us, especially moms, losing that independence can kind of trigger a lot of been feelings, a lot of emotions and thoughts that we wouldn't have really had time to think of before. You're so right.

Stacey [00:25:52]:
Yeah. It it it makes us evaluate our self worth, been You know, because maybe we're making our worth belong to just being the mom in the family. Just being the mom in the family. And that's a big deal, being the mom in the family. Been realize how much you can't do and what you do is being a mom and family. But if we don't take the prep for ourselves And then we're laid up and we can't do the things that we are used to doing and we, you know, we're a great mom, but we feel like we're not a great mom been When we're laid up, that mom guilt is really a thing post surgery. It really is. And so been When we've esteemed ourselves by what we've done and we keep doing that and not not esteeming ourselves on the inside, that's a good hit.

Stacey [00:26:37]:
It's a hit. Right? It's a hit. Been When we esteem ourselves, if we're not a mom, when we esteem ourselves by what we do at the gym or what we do at work, when we can't do the gym, we can't do work, been That's a hit to our esteem. That's how we're esteeming ourselves. So what surgery does is it causes you to go within And to find that acceptance and comfortability from within yourself. It's a beautiful thing. It's so yeah.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:27:05]:
I love it. It's part of why I, you know, didn't launch this show. Part of why I'm doing what I'm doing because I saw so many seen amazing transformations. Amazing women that I was like, oh my god. How are you the same girl that I just met been 4 weeks ago who was shy in an oversized shirt and sweatpants and didn't feel good about themselves and now, oh my god. You're walking been in here and you're looking amazing. I can see the glow and the confidence in your face. Been and it wasn't just one time, a couple of times like, everyday when I was in clinic, I was seeing these formations over and over and over again.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:27:48]:
And I I would hear the surgeons talk about it, but not as much as what they're talking about it now. That transformation and how they have the ability to really change somebody's life in a way been that that person, that patient is forever, forever thankful, forever grateful. I'm so my surgeon, been he's the best. I love him. And I I any chance I can I get to praise doctor Newell? Y'all know he did my surgery. I'm so thankful because he really did change my life. And my surgeon who did my breast, she really did change my life because these are things for example, my breast had been so big for so long. I had been since I was a kid, I was like a a c cup in elementary school.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:28:36]:
I had a huge breast. My been growing up I had double d's. When I breastfed they got huge then they got deflated so then they were big and saggy been and that affected that affected my confidence so much because they were at least before they were big and perky. Been I could wear a tube tops and I could wear spaghetti straps and it was fine because my nipples were still pointing up. But, after I breastfed 2 kids, been my nipples were not pointing up anymore. They were pointing out.

Stacey [00:29:07]:
So we've been down and then start, what happened? Been I had my breast cancer. Well, I had mine, you know, just filled back up because kids just nursed it all out.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:29:18]:
Yeah. And it's so common and it's you know all of I would see moms all the time and they're coming in and we all it's like we all suffer the same thing after been breastfeeding and after childbirth.

Stacey [00:29:29]:
For me?

Mavi Rodriguez [00:29:30]:
And, I so many times my girls would be like, oh, I'm like, they're shy. Right? To undress in front of me or undress in front of the doctor which I experienced it too when I had to get undressed in front of my surgeon. But, I always tell him like, I see so many boobs, I see so many tummies, I see so many naked bodies everyday like, you are and not like just another number but there's nothing that you have some that could scare me or it could make me think anything about you because I've seen so many before and we are all experiencing the same thing seen over and over and over again in different ways, different sizes, different amounts, but we're all experiencing it. And I feel like knowing as a patient, knowing that there ain't nothing you're gonna show me that I haven't seen, girl.

Stacey [00:30:17]:
I know. Been And it's about that love and acceptance of ourselves though because we do. It it's it's a just a little bit. We been a little bit here, a little bit there, a little bit at a time, and then it's like, you know? Yeah. We get to to that that love and acceptance of our self through this journey process, you know. Because it is. It's a it's it's more than people think that it is, been It's so worth it if they get prepared.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:30:45]:
If they get prepared and the mental work really is where it's at. I know been Online, I see a lot of women who have, procedures that don't end up looking like how they expected it to look. And it always makes me feel so sad, because I've experienced so much been good, you know, from my surgery and it hurts me to my core been to see an to see another woman who their surgery went wrong and it didn't change their life for the better, it changed their life for the worse. What can if because I know I have some a lot of my audience Has either had surgery or they're thinking about surgery. What's something that you can, a tip that you give for somebody who's on their surgery journey before I let you go, for how they can mentally prepare for surgery.

Stacey [00:31:46]:
Been 1st off, they do the research on the surgeon. Don't go around the corner in the block to get your surgeon. Do some research, you know. Finally, you know, make sure that they're board certified and that they are specialized, you know, in their field. So that's 1 1 tip. The 2nd tip would be To when they're preparing to prepare themselves for that surgery, to spend 30 minutes a day and not to take breathing, you know, regulate your system when you get to feel anxious about any little thing, you know, to do them some breathing exercises, regulate yourself. Been That's the opposite of the fragmentation. That's how you're gonna clear that fragmentation, those what ifs, and that catastrophizing and get clear.

Stacey [00:32:29]:
Because been What is attached to surgery is uncertainty. That's people's biggest fear in surgery, is uncertainty. You know, how if I'm gonna make it through, How am I gonna look on the other side? So if you breathe, you know, and then get really focused and centered, you're gonna start knowing yourself and knowing your body, been You know, and having that relationship because you're gonna have a relationship with your body. If you go to surgery, you're gonna get a relationship. Been You're gonna get

Mavi Rodriguez [00:32:57]:
to know yourself very well.

Stacey [00:32:59]:
Yes. And so being able to take those breathing exercises, take 30 minutes a day, at least spent 30 days for surgery to yourself to prepare your mind, to get focused, to to, you know, focus on what you do want and not give energy what you don't want. You know, being conscious, being of conscious mind because you can't drink 30 days. Some your group before surgery. You can't smoke before surgery. So that's coping in itself sometimes. And so been Really starting those coping practices, presurgery, are gonna help you cope post surgery because you're right. You can't go back to the same way of life been happy and not have to go back and get surgery.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:33:44]:
Not in the back where you were, but when you came in the 1st place.

Stacey [00:33:48]:
Been Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:33:51]:
That's a beautiful piece of advice, Stacey. I am so thankful. Thank you for coming on the show today and sharing your wisdom and sharing your experience with us. If you guys if you book sent me with my VIP package, you get a whole team. So my VIP package includes Stacy and or a mental health coach from Pop Recovery Systems. A nutritionist or a nutrition expert. We have dietitians, we have different some types of experts. And you get your Concierge Wellness.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:34:25]:
So this person, the Concierge Wellness, we haven't talked about it yet but this person who I you guys, I put my whole heart and soul training and coming up with the protocols over here with, Krissy who's the head. And we really thought about how can we make your whole surgery experience the easiest, been the best. The stress free. The most stress free. How can we make it so that been they really feel supported. How can we make it so that they don't feel, like, they have to go look on Google anytime? So my packages include the pop recovery systems and if I don't know if you guys know but if you follow me on Instagram, been Laura and I have been visiting Plastic Surgeons who we are partnering with for them to offer our services or the services to their patients. So that when you leave their office, you leave with your surgery and a whole recovery system. So you have no doubts about what you're supposed to be doing, what you're supposed to be getting, what are you supposed to be eating, what are you supposed to be thinking.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:35:34]:
You we figured it all out and we put it in a nice beautiful package with a beautiful bow for you so that you can really have the best experienced on your surgery journey and I'm so happy. I'm so thankful. You guys know this is this is my jam. This is what I do. This is my love. I love this and we did it with a lot of love. Laura and I really have we call this our baby because we, it's been a labor of love and it's been a labor of really just putting all of our passion behind our mission, which is to keep you been safe during your surgery journey. And with that, I will see you guys next week.

Mavi Rodriguez [00:36:13]:
Thanks, Stacey.

Stacey [00:36:15]:
Thank you, Mavi. You have an amazing day.