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Big Butts No Lies Plastic Surgery Podcast
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Big Butts No Lies Plastic Surgery Podcast
To Lip Lift Or To Lip Flip ft. Dr. Shabnam Ghazizadeh
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In this episode of the best plastic surgery podcast "Big Butts No Lies", our host & plastic surgery consultant Mavi Rodriguez is joined by Dr. Shabnam Ghazizadeh, a renowned female plastic surgeon from Newport Beach. Together they dive deep into the latest beauty trends of 2024 and answer the following questions:
- What are beauty trends in 2024?
- How do you know if you are a good candidate for a lip lift as opposed to fillers or a lip flip?
- Who is a good rhinoplasty candidate?
- How effective are CO2 lasers in skin rejuvenation? What should patients consider when seeking these treatments?
Join us as we explore these fascinating topics with Dr. Ghazizadeh and gain valuable insights into achieving natural beauty through modern plastic surgery techniques.
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Hey, guys. My name is Mavi, and I've spent the last 14 years in the plastic surgery and beauty industry working alongside some of the best plastic surgeons in the country. Now I don't work for anybody, so I have unbiased opinions about 100 of surgeons from across the world, and I can help you achieve the body of your dream. Hey, guys. Do I have the show for you today? I'm so excited to have the OC's female plastic surgeon, doctor Shabnan Gazizadeh, on the show today, and we're gonna talk all about beauty trends in 2024. Welcome to the show, doctor Gazzizadeh.
Thank you so much. I'm so excited to be here.
Thank you. Girl, I was binging your TikTok, your Instagram before we came on, and you are killing it. I'm so proud. I'm so happy to see a female plastic surgeon rocking it in a in a predominantly male field.
Thank you. I mean, I really appreciate it. I I love Instagram for that reason. I feel like I get to showcase kind of what I'm passionate about and reach out to my patients to get let them get to know me a little bit because you're right. It is a male dominated field, especially here in Newport Beach, like the only female plastic surgeon here. So, it's yeah. It's an exciting time and we're we're growing and we're getting into the space, so it's it's really lovely to see.
Awesome. I love to see it. So one of your videos that caught my eye was your video about the beauty trends in 2024, and I'd love for you to share with us what you're seeing and what you expect to come in the future.
So I think 2024, like, when I'm looking at celebrities, I'm seeing kind of how trends in terms of natural beauty are going. I think really having a clean aesthetic is becoming huge. I think really beautiful skin quality, doing the things that are just, like, small natural tux. I think not those drastic huge transformations that, you know, sometimes don't look natural or those are just not really in. Like, those big lips that look just, like, really too much, they don't fit your face. I think really fitting the the proportions of your face and making everything look really elegant and delicate is really where things are going. And so I think doing things to your skin, really rejuvenating your skin, I think the the younger generation is doing a great job of of getting into that. And then the small tucks and as well as the big tucks, but, blepharoplasty, lip lift surgery to fix the proportions of things, and then face lifts and neck lifts and and doing those in a natural way is gonna be really big.
I I totally agree. I've seen a big reduction in overfilling. I've talked about it on the show a lot about how you can get a little distorted in your mind when you're looking in the mirror and you want more and more and more and more and before you know it, you don't even look like yourself anymore. And I'm I'm hoping you're seeing that trend go down.
Yes. Yes. And I and that's how I counsel my patients. It's not it's not about more is more. It's about what's right for your face and, you know, realistic expectations about what is beautiful and what you can look like, your best version of yourself. You're not gonna look like anyone else. We can't implant somebody else's cheeks on you. You shouldn't want that for your your facial frame.
So everything has to look proportionate and really nice on you and just trying to find that natural balance.
Absolutely. So one of the things that I really loved on your page was the lip lift explanation of how you take your measurements and how you decide. And for me, I've been getting lip filler forever. Forever. Let me think. I'm 34, and I had my first lip filler when I was, like, 21. So it's been a while. And now I'm getting to the point where when I get my lips my lips injected, I've had my injector say I can feel the scar tissue in there, which I'm kinda like, good.
So that means they're never gonna go back to the way they were all the way originally. But I'm also thinking like, okay. Maybe it's time for me to start exploring the idea of getting a lip lift instead of continuing to get fillers. Give me an idea of what you think about that. Instead of doing so much lip filler, doing a lip lift.
I think the way I think about it, it's not one or the other. I think it's you have to be the right candidate. I don't think that somebody who's having lip filler and just wants to have something more permanent is automatically gonna be a lip lift candidate. I think that's the wrong way to think about it and I don't want the public to start thinking that because then you're definitely gonna find a surgeon who's gonna do it. And if you're not the right candidate, you're gonna get a permanent scar on the middle of your face and not that much benefit, and potentially look pretty unnatural. You know? You don't want your lip and your nose to be connected.
Lip. No. No.
So I think really still looking at people and making sure they're a candidate before that, not just having filler fatigue and, like, looking for another option. Filler definitely still has its place in lip augmentation, but I think that there's limitations to that. And seeing in the right patient who just keeps getting vial after vial after vial, and it's starting to migrate, and they're just not getting the result they want. Like, should they have gotten lip, lift first and reset the proportions, made their face look more youthful, then come in with some volume if they need it or if they want it later. That's kind of the way I like to think about it, and there's several things that I look at when I'm looking to see if someone's a candidate.
Okay. The reason why I thought for me and you guys, I'm talking about for myself, because I had a lip lift with Botox, and I really liked how it looked. And I was like, you know what? With the lip lift with Botox, I really don't worry about having more more fullness. I think I like the fullness now. It's just having that little tiny little lift. Yeah. The
lip flip. Lip flip is great. It's I often tell my patients, like, if you haven't tried this, just try it. Like, maybe it makes you a little bit, you know, using a straw is a little weird, a couple letters are a little weird for a little while, but that kinda goes away by week 1. And, you know, I have it on board right now. So I think that it adds a little bit of fullness, for the right patient. But I'm not a lip lift candidate, but I do like a lip flip. So right now, you know, I have a good lip flip because my my lip is not, like, thinning out when I smile.
But that distance there, there's nowhere else I can add. So I can't you know, you could get a lip flip and not be a lip lift candidate either. So all 3 of these things are options, but you have to go to a surgeon who knows what they're talking about when they are offering these to you.
Oh, 100%. We're we can definitely go into that a little bit later, but for now, tell us who is a good candidate for a lip lift.
So lip lift, things that I look at are, 1, like, the whole facial skeleton, the whole proportions of the entire face, and then also, like, their dentition. So someone who has like a prominent maxilla, their their teeth are a little bit more anterior there, they need that length to close their mouth. So you don't wanna make it so someone can't close their mouth or you're having functional problems. Also, really long teeth, you don't wanna get this, like, bunny look like this. So I'm looking at those things and then their whole facial proportions. This area is 1 third. This area is 1 third. This area is 1 third.
So you wanna look at the whole face when you're deciding. So once you've kind of gotten that sense and they're still a candidate in that way, like, they don't have super long teeth or they don't have, like, a bite problem, Then I'm looking at the length of the lip itself, how much tooth show they have. So if you have a really long lip, I'd say really long would be, like, greater than 2 centimeters. That's pretty you know, for my aging female patients that I see a lot, that's actually not that uncommon. But the younger patients are closer to about 17 millimeters, I'd say, and that still is the candidate and the right person. And then tooth show. So it's really useful to have some tooth show and that can vary anywhere from 0 in like an aging face patient, to more like 4 6 millimeters of tooth show when you're just like kind of at rest of your mouth parted like this. So, I have like some good tooth show when I'm not doing anything.
You have a little bit less than I do and on everyone's face it's a little bit different depending on how long your teeth are, how long your lip is, like all those things factor in. So those are the kind of the things that I'm looking at. So the length, how much tooth show you have, the fullness of the lip itself, so how thin it is. And I do have patients dissolve their filler sometimes so I can get a good measurement and idea of whether or not they're a good candidate.
Wonderful. So I've always wondered about instead of continuing to get lip filler, maybe do fat grafting. What do you think about fat grafting to the lip?
So there's different options, and I think that, like, they've all had their historic place. Like, back in the day was what? The silicone implant.
Mhmm.
And those are all being removed now because it's just weighs down it doesn't give you a nice shave and it causes like you know really unnatural looking lips or extrusion. Then there was fascia so when at the same time doing a face lift you can take some of the fascia from the SMAS and put it in the lip and kind of snake it across the top. And that's not a bad option. And then fat grafting is always an option in almost any area of the face. But the problem with fat grafting is it's kind of a little lumpy. So the fat, even though we get it, like, really processed down to a point where it's, like, thin enough to inject through a cannula or a needle, which is what we do with all the fat grafting all over the face, the take rate is not a 100%. So some of it's gonna dissolve, some of it's not. This doesn't have a lot of room for error, basically.
Like, you know, your layer that you're injecting is right above the muscle, right below the mucosa, and that's a thin space. So if you get any lumpies and people have probably gotten lumpies when they do a filler, it's not gonna go away with fat and you can't dissolve it either. So you're kinda stuck. So when we do fat grafting in the face, in the cheeks and, like, the mid face and those areas that we do, like, the temples, we do it in a layer where it's deep enough that there's enough overlying tissue to camouflage any potential lumpies because you expect some some amount. Right? There's, you know, studies that go anywhere from, like, 60% to, like, 80% of, like, take rate and can be less, could be more. So you don't ever get a 100% like what I put in here is to me what you're gonna have. So I think that's not that great of an option for the lifts. It would be nice, but, I don't think that that is the number one thing for lip volume.
Dang. So I'm gonna have to keep do now I'm thinking, okay. My options are narrowing down. Yep. Because I wanna keep I wanna keep them full, but I'm starting to think, okay. What else can I do instead of continuing to get lip filler? But I might have to keep thinking about it.
Lift in the right patient on you, like, you know, it's definitely something to consider. I think the thing that people need to weigh is how much benefit for that incision. That incision is the middle of your face, you go to the wrong person it can be even more prominent so making sure they're using the technique that's gonna make the thinnest, most camouflage in incision possible, but also someone who is gonna get a really big change for that incision. And so, like, getting a little one millimeter and having a huge scar there, like, you know, in the best case scenario there's always a scar, But a really nice thin scar even still, there's a recovery time. So we wanna make sure, like, they're really getting a benefit if you're gonna go down that route.
Right. You always have to outweigh the risks and the to the benefit and see if it's the right choice for you. So I saw on your Instagram that one of your other favorite procedures to do is rhinoplasties, and girl, everybody asks me about rhinoplasties. So tell me, about how how you came into deciding that you wanted to focus on facial plastic surgery. Going down that route, which procedure is your favorite to do on the face?
So I train primarily as a head and neck surgeon. So I'm board certified by the Head and Neck Society, American Academy of Otolaryngology. And while I was in that training, you know, I we we do everything, surgical oncology, you know, airway specialists, ear surgery, sinus surgery. I really liked the aesthetics aspect and I really like, you know, putting the face back together after trauma or even not after trauma with our cosmetic patients trying to help them get to that place that they wanna be. They feel the more most confident about their look. So and then during my fellowship, I did a lot of rhinoplasties, and that is definitely the hardest surgery, I would say, for any surgeon, you know, general plastics or head and neck surgery because it's 3 d. It's you know, you're working with so many different materials, like soft tissue, cartilage, bone, grafting things. So and there's a lot of decision fatigue in rhinoplasty.
Like every step is brand new, unique to that case, unique to that patient, versus lots of other surgeries that we do, you do the same steps after each other, so you don't have to make a decision every single move. So I think that's what makes rhinoplasty so hard, and I'm a engineering by background. I did biomedical engineering, And I think that that, like, kind of engineering part of, like, building a nose, building a 3 d structure, and trying to put something together that's, like, complex the whole way through from the beginning to the end of the surgery. I really enjoy that. So rhinoplasty, I would say, is my favorite.
Oh, I love to hear that. So what kind do you when you have a consultation for rhinoplasties, tell me what do you see them asking the most, and how do you decide if somebody is a good candidate for a rhinoplasty? I'm I'm remembering somebody that was in my DMs over the last couple of weeks who was like, I'm looking for a surgeon for a rhinoplasty, but I only want a little bit. And my nose is already small. It's just a small edge it's just a small small little fix. I'm like, girl, just because your nose is small and it's a small fix doesn't mean it's different than any other rhinoplasty. We have to find you a really good rhinoplasty surgeon. So tell me a little bit about that.
I I think that's great that you tell them that because I think the smaller the change, the harder the rhinoplasty. There's a lot to control in that procedure and I tell my patients like maybe 85% of your result is what I do in the operating room, the other part is healing, you know, scar tissue formation, dissolving this dissolvable sutures I put in and creating scar tissue that supports what I did, you know, there's no 100% with rhinoplasty and I think that's the hard part to have patients kind of, like, understand that expectation and expectation management. Because I think the ones that come in, they're like, this one millimeter is bothering me. It's like but by doing undergoing close or open rhinoplasty, you're disrupting ligaments and creating scar tissue, and doing things that we can't control or, you know, know exactly how that's gonna heal. To fix the 1 millimeter, you can make another 1 millimeter problem somewhere else. So the best rhinoplasty patients are the ones where the problem and expectations align and the surgeon sees those, can fix those, has the confidence to fix those. So, it's there's a lot of, I think, counseling and expectation management with rhinoplasty, and it seems a lot easier than it is.
For sure. But you know what? I'll I like to talk with my plastic surgeons, and in their podcast prep forms, I always ask them, what's your favorite procedure? And so many of them say rhinoplasty, but I don't do them. I don't work on them. Really? They feel like they don't have enough. I feel like it's one of those things that, as a as a plastic surgeon, they either get a lot of them or they don't really get a lot of them. They get more body surgery. But most of them say, at first, when I first started, I really wanted to focus on rhinoplasty, but because my practice grew in a different direction, I complexity of the rhinoplasty procedures and really just facial procedures and and all.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it really your practice kind of has a mind of its own, I guess. You know? The location, your referral patterns, the patients that you're seeing, and I I can totally see how the the further you get up from training and the less you feel like the expert, you wanna send patients to the place where they can get the best results. So if you're not doing that that often, you're not feeling that confident, maybe you send those out.
They do.
Luckily, I do a lot of rhinoposties, so I I get that volume that I need to feel up and, you know, continue to, like, keep my craft at the highest, you know, skill level that I can, but there's other procedures that maybe I don't. And those eventually will kind of, like, not be the thing that I focus on.
So at on the face, I also see that you do a lot of deep plain face lifts and neck lifts. And we've had male surgeons on the show talk about how they do them and their their approach to them, but, you know, I love my female surgeon. Y'all do so much I don't wanna say better, but, I mean, I just love y'all more.
There are studies that actually show that we have better results. Have you seen that study? Yes. I have.
Yeah. Better results, less deaths. So tell me a little bit about your approach to facial rejuvenation when it comes to face lifts and neck lifts.
I I think, you know, again, patient selection, you know, patient expectations is important because not everyone's gonna have the same recovery. And I think we luckily here, you know, really have very smooth recoveries, and our patients do really well, but there are those patients who can have some of the bumps during, you know, during the recovery process and, you know, it's just being present and being able to be available to the patients and make sure they are taken care of during that time is really important. That's part of kind of what I work with my patients on. I think my philosophy is, you know, keeping things natural, not over pulled, you know, really minimizing the scar, putting no tension on the skin, and releasing the ligaments that are needed to reposition the face and really get those results. And that, you know, takes a little bit longer in surgery, I'd say, than, you know, just doing something fast and getting them out. And when you give them, oh, it's gonna take about 4 hours to do the surgery, they're so long. But it's like but it's not because we're releasing the ligaments, we're going to that deep plane, we're getting everything repositioned, and we do do our surgeries under twilight, which patients, you know, really appreciate and they come here because that's a specialty of our practice here is to do them without general anesthesia, And that's a result of being able to do it faster, you know, doing a good job with the the tumescent and lifting the skin in a way that, I can get that done, in a shorter amount
time. Beautiful. So when you do your, facial rejuvenation, are you putting them on a special skin care treatment after? Are you do recommending any type of lasers or resurfacing treatments post op?
I think before and after is really the best case scenario because, the way I think about, like, facial aging, it's like there's all these layers, you know, that you're every single small thing that you do is addressing one specific part of the aging process. And the deep vein facelift, the neck lift, you know, you're addressing the muscles, the soft tissue, the facial skeleton, repositioning things. But even though you're pulling on the skin to some degree, you know, you're decreasing some of that skin bunching and that skin laxity, you're not changing the quality of the skin, the texture of the skin, the hydration of the skin. And so that can still be aging you even though your neckline is sharper. You know? So I think that before and after surgery, and depending on skin tone, you know, during the surgery, we do do c o two for the patients who are good candidates for it. Thinking about skin quality is huge. And some patients have already done something like ProFound, which is great for skin quality improvement and a little bit of skin tightening, or after the surgery, they would benefit from something like ProFound or CO2 in addition to a great skin care regimen. Skincare regimen.
Their skin would be where they want it to be before they do a face lift. And if it's not after a face lift, definitely, because that's gonna be the telltale sign afterwards. If you have this, like, aged, creepy, thin skin, but you have great proportions, your face lift's gonna look more obvious than someone who has younger, you know, buoyant, hydrated skin with a face lift. It's not gonna be as, like, you know, contrasting. You know?
Mhmm. So we haven't really talked too much about c o two lasers on the show. So if you can give my audience a quick rundown on what that is, what they can expect as the result and for the recovery.
So CO2 laser is like the powerhouse of of resurfacing of the skin and it's basically a fractionated laser, it's an ablative laser. So, fractionated means that it is making small little micro injuries in one spot surrounded by normal healthy tissue, and then another spot surrounding healthy tissue. It's not a complete resurfacing of all the skin. So it's just small little columns of thermal injury, and it basically ablates or, you know, removes that skin with heat injury, and then you sluff off the rest of the skin. So you do the CO2 laser, you know, totally customizable settings. Every CO2 laser machine, the power, the spacing, the dwell time, all these things are set by the surgeon, and so no 2 CO2 treatments are going to be the same. You know, no one can do them exactly the same unless they're setting using the same machine using the same settings. So, your result depends on who's using the machine, who's using the device.
And then after the procedure you can expect some redness, kind of feels like a a burn, like, you know, a little sunburn. The redness, depending on the settings, can last, you know, anywhere from, like, 2 weeks to a month to even 3 months depending on the skin type and the and the settings. And then you just basically apply an emollient onto the skin, like an Aquaphor or we use a special healing ointment while the skin is sloughing off basically. So those little thermal injuries you're just going to see a bunch of little coffee ground dark spots. And then with the emollient that you're just applying on, it slowly just starts to slough off. It's different than a chemical peel where your skin is actually peeling off. This is kind of just like they kind of roll up into a teeny little ball and they go away, and then your fresh new skin underneath there looks like a little sunburn until it, you know, normalizes and just looks like baby skin. Looks like a baby's bottom.
It does. It looks beautiful. So are most c o two procedures a one and done, or is it a a series?
I would say c o two is pretty powerful, but it's never a one and done depending on what area you're treating and the skin quality that you're starting with. So especially like perioral lines in more aging face patients, they're deep, and the skin texture really needs some help. So in those areas in particular, you usually need 1 or more treatments or patients with a lot of sun damage on their neck and their chest, or their hands. We do a lot of neck, chest, and hands, especially here in sunny California. Our patients have a lot of light pigmentation, texture, wrinkles, all those things that come with sun exposure. And you can't do those highest settings on the neck or the chest because the adnexal tissue underneath it doesn't have as much recovery power. So you can cause some serious damage if you're using the wrong setting in those areas compared to the face. So you do need to do, you know, a couple treatments usually, and it and it really depends on the skin quality.
Absolutely. So if you're thinking about having a c o two laser, because that does come up in my DMs quite often, you have to make sure to find a good provider. And you guys know that I love medical spas that are attached to plastic surgeons offices, or they're right attached to a facial plastic surgeon or a dermatologist so that there's more than just a standalone, you know, spa with maybe a nurse or a nurse practitioner, not that they can't do great work, but for, for me, when women come and ask me for recommendations on how to find a spa or how to find somebody to do it, I always like to say, please go to a spa that's a medical spa that's attached to a doctor's office. I feel like there's a lot more protection that way. The doctors are a lot more involved in trainings and training staff and being on hand, and there's a lot more checks and balances, I feel, when you go to a medical spa. What do you what would you say if, somebody's asking you? How do I find a c o 2 laser provider?
Yeah. Exactly how you said it. The provider, whatever devices they have, whatever they're comfortable with, and whatever their aesthetic is is more important than the device. You know, if you're searching for c o two, I think you're looking at it the wrong way. Like, you should be looking for someone who can get the results you want with whatever device they have, and you trust them, you have a relationship, you know, all those things. They can get you there with different devices. It doesn't have to be c o two. But if you go to someone you're, like, shopping for just your device, you're gonna get whoever provider with whatever settings, and that is the bigger thing.
You know, choosing the wrong patient for the wrong device, wrong skin type, wrong skin color, you can cause all kinds of issues from these things. Like, these aren't mild, like, you know, I guess microneedling, the the one size fits all. Like, most people can get microneedling without a problem. Things like deeper chemical peels, CO2 laser, you can cause really bad problems. And so you should look for the providers who are safe, get the good results, trustworthy rather than device.
I agree with that. You guys know that I I'm very big on building a relationship with your provider, with your surgeon specifically, because it's you're on a lifelong journey. Right? You're not gonna just have one procedure and that's it. You're never gonna come you don't care about how you look anymore and that's it. You're never gonna come back. You're gonna continue to come back to your surgeon for multiple things, maybe here, maybe there, skin care, lasers, all types of things will come up. So building a good relationship with your provider is vital. The difficult part is for my girls who are in rural rural areas who are looking for providers, and they can't really find them.
So for those girls are the ones that I'm really thinking. Well, how can I guide you to the best way without, so that you don't get hurt? Where I'm like, okay. There must be a good plastic surgeon by you or a good surgeon that has a medical spa attached, and they can probably find you or get you where you wanna be.
Yeah. And and we have patients who travel here, and I kind of like to build a partnership with injectors or other, you know, medical providers in other states so that they, you know, the patient has somewhere to go in house, like, if they wanna get their Botox or their injectable. Like, it's not really feasible for everyone to keep coming back to me for those kinds of things. Like, they'll come here for the face lift, then they wanna go home to wherever that is. And I love that I can find, like, a trusted injector or someone there that can help them with those things, you know, while they're doing those until they come back for the next thing, which is, like, the blepharoplasty or the eyelid lift or you know? So, yeah, if there's a partnership, and you can still find good injectors and people to partner with your plastic surgeon, even if you're out, you know, out of town.
So before I let you go, doctor g, I always like to ask my surgeons, if you were talking to your best friend or your mom and she's looking for a surgeon, what's one tip that you would give her?
My mom. My mom's always asking for surgery. Oh, when's my turn? When's my turn? I'm like, mom. So funny that you said that. She texted me today also. Okay. So I think the thing, you know, it just I think personality. Like, I feel like especially here, you know, when I am around a lot of male plastic surgeons and, the patients that come to me, you know, have either seen another opinion, seen another male plastic surgeon, and a lot of times they're coming to me.
And after our consultation, they're like, you know, this was really refreshing because I went to this other guy, and I just felt intimidated. I felt uncomfortable, and I really trust you or, like, you're really approachable or, like, I think that those things really matter. And so using your spidey sense to just feel like, is this person gonna do what's best for me, be there for me during the recovery, or am I just another quote? You know? So I think the personality fit is bigger than people know even if they have these tremendous results and, you know, you're seeing all this stuff on Instagram, and you go and visit them and you kinda get an inkling of, like, oh, you know, this didn't really work for me personality wise. I would listen to that more than thinking, well, it's okay though because I'm gonna get the results I want because they need to be there for you in that recovery, and it never goes as smoothly as you see on Instagram, I would just say. You know, those are the best case scenarios. We're trying to showcase. I noticed people are trying to show a little bit rougher recoveries because that's also part of it some people have those and you can't even tell who it's going to be, but knowing that your surgeon's gonna be there with you, available, give you their cell phone number, call you to check-in, you know, make sure you're doing okay emotionally, mentally, you know, physically. I think that that's a little bit underrated, and it should be paid attention to a little bit more.
I 100% agree. You hit the nail on the head with that. So if you ladies wanna go see doctor g, how can they find you?
My Instagram is doctor_gazizadeh, and then my website is doctorgazizadeh.com. And I'd love to connect with, any of your lovely patients and podcast listeners so they can always DM me or call our office.
Wonderful. Thank you so much for coming on the show, doctor Gazzuzadeh. It was a pleasure meeting you, talking to you, getting to know your philosophies, and I can't wait to see how your practice continues to grow and your before and afters.
Thank you, Mavi. This is wonderful.
Alright, you guys. I'll see y'all next week.
