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Finding Your Purpose with Tyler Cerny
What if everything you thought you wanted left you feeling empty inside? Tyler Cerny, an international keynote speaker who travels globally teaching students, athletes, and professionals how to align with their God-given purpose, shares exactly this experience on today's profound episode.
Tyler opens up about reaching what many would consider the pinnacle of success - financial prosperity, an enviable lifestyle, and great relationships - only to wake up one morning feeling completely hollow. This pivotal moment led him to a transformative realization: the Lord was in his life, but only when convenient. The difference between being interested versus committed to spiritual growth became the turning point that changed everything.
Through powerful biblical insights, particularly John 15's metaphor of the vine and branches, Tyler explains how human effort combines with divine assistance in a beautiful partnership. Some days we show up at 70% capacity and God meets us the remaining 30%, while other times we barely manage 0.01% and need God to carry us 99.99% of the way. This balanced perspective acknowledges both our responsibility and limitations while offering tremendous hope.
The conversation explores practical approaches to integrating faith into business, finding your unique purpose, and winning each day with intentional habits. Tyler breaks down the concept of purpose etymologically and practically, providing a framework anyone can apply: identify who you're serving, what problems you're solving, and how you're uniquely equipped to solve them. His insights on sacrifice, discipline, and the fruits of spiritual growth offer both challenge and encouragement for listeners at any stage of their journey.
Whether you're questioning your path, seeking deeper meaning in your work, or simply curious about merging faith with everyday life, this conversation will inspire you to look beyond worldly measures of success toward something infinitely more fulfilling. Connect with Tyler on LinkedIn or Instagram @TylerDCerny to continue the conversation about purpose-driven living.
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Hello everyone, thank you again for joining me on another episode of the DorsiRoss show. Today we have a special guest with us. His name is Tyler Cerny. He is an international and award-winning keynote speaker who travels around the world teaching students, athletes and young professionals and business owners how to align themselves with the life, with their lives and God's giving purpose. Tyler, thank you so much for coming on the show today.
Speaker 2:Amen, absolutely, george. It's always a pleasure to see you, man. You inspire me every day Grateful to be here and grateful to connect with you.
Speaker 1:Thank you, Tyler. I greatly appreciate that Open up with a few lighthearted questions, and the first one is what has been going on in your life recently that you expected and didn't expect.
Speaker 2:That's a great question, man. We'll keep it light and deep at the same time. Man, what's going on in something that I've expected and didn't expect? One of the things that I was thinking about and praying to the Lord before I got on this call, Dorsey, is how much sacrifice is needed to be a Christian right. Because, if you think about it, a lot of people when you first start in your spiritual walk, you're like, hey, I want to be a Christian right. Because, if you think about it, a lot of people when you first start in your spiritual walk, you're like, hey, I want to be saved, I want to go to heaven, I don't want to go to, you know, it's like all the consequences we want to avoid, right, and it's a very you know what's in it for us. And it's like, hey, we have this amazing partner with the Lord, point where it's like, okay, we want to follow Christ, we want to be a devout Christian. Well, what does that take? And that takes a lot on our sacrifice, discipline and obedience that we typically, you know, kind of overlook. And there's this thing that I saw and I kind of made it my own.
Speaker 2:But, you know, whenever we restart something, right, whether it's reading a book, whether it's reading the Bible. You know, there's certain passages that I remember. I'm on the seventh or eighth time through the Bible and I remember reading certain passages and they just go right over my head. I don't really understand them, but whether you start lifting weights, start reading a book, start doing something new, you have this delusional optimism for the future. You're like, hey, this is going to be the greatest and best thing ever. And then, once you start to get into it, then you become like an uninformed pessimist, where you just kind of like, man, this is a lot harder than I thought, I don't really know what I got myself into. And then, if we continue the journey, we're then going to become informed pessimists where it's like, okay, I know this journey is hard, I know what I need to do every single day to stay consistent to achieve the outcome. And in the final stage, if we don't give up and quit, we become informed optimists. It's like, hey, we finally start bearing fruits in our lives and we start getting the results that we started our initial journey on. Whatever that looks like our fitness journey, our spiritual journey, our business journey, whatever that looks like. It's like how many people have given up right before they see the breakthrough. And so you know.
Speaker 2:Your question is you know what's something that I expected but also didn't expect is I expected the Lord to move this past year and moving forward, but I didn't expect the amount of sacrifice and obedience and discipline that is needed to be a Christian every single day. And I think that's the power of faith and Christianity, and believing is that we don't have to do it all ourselves. And I always tell people this there's some days we'll all show up 70%. The Lord's going to meet me 30%. There's some days we'll all show up 99.99999%, but the Lord's still going to have to meet me.
Speaker 2:The final way, and there's some points that I'll show up 0.01% and the Lord's going to have to meet me 99.99999%. But either way we look at it, we're not whole, unless the Lord's part of our life, and so it's just a. You know to answer your question. To close the thought out, it's just the sacrifice, obedience and discipline is something that's needed for our growth, but it's something that takes time and only continues to get better, as you kind of put yourselves in these situations of discomfort and these situations of suffering, Because on the other side is salvation and on the other side, is everything that we want to achieve in our life.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and as Christians to go off of what you said there as Christians wouldn't everything be at that 100%. You know life, mentality, you know expectations, whatever. But like you said, even if we're at that 99%, god will help us to get to that 100%, because he's all we need anyway.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and the other thing with that is, if we try to do it all ourselves and we don't include the Lord, we're always going to have a little. We're always going to have a piece that's missing in our life Absolutely, and especially when you start seeing results in your life, in any area of life. It's like we as human beings, and something that I always like to remind myself. One of my favorite verses is Luke 14, verse 11. It says those who humble themselves will be exalted and those who exalt themselves will be humbled. And it says those who humble themselves will be exalted and those who exalt themselves will be humbled. And it's just.
Speaker 2:I still get chills sharing that verse because I remember when I first read that verse it smacked me up inside the head and it's like, wow, the closer we can get the less of us, the more we can have the Lord in our life. And that's something that is always a constant reminder I like to share in my life and other people is that you don't need to do it on your own and the results that you have in your life they're not because of you, they're partly because of you, but we always have to remember and stay humble to whose we are and who helped us to achieve the things that we have achieved in our life.
Speaker 1:If you had to eat one food a day for the rest of your life, what would it be?
Speaker 2:Well, that's a great question, because I love food. I'm here in Southern Texas and I want to just only have this. But there's this grocery store called H-E-B and they have these amazing butter flour tortillas. Man, I don't know what they do. They're like freshly made, they're amazing. But I like steak, so I have some sort of steak with these tortillas. I could probably eat that every day and that's pretty much what I do eat every day. I also like to just eat something a lot of. I like to eat a watermelon. I can eat a lot of watermelon. So watermelon or steaks, and butter flour tort flower tortilla is one of the two. So that's probably what I'd go with, but I'll probably go with steak because there's more protein and probably more sustainable okay, being from texas, I thought you would at least have said you know some type of barbecue yeah, no, that's true, I like brisket too.
Speaker 2:There's nothing wrong with some good brisket. I'm originally from Cleveland, but I live here in Texas now. But yeah, man, that's a good question. Man, I like all types of food, but barbecue is definitely up there too. Barbecue, sushi, steak, all that stuff.
Speaker 1:Have there been a time when you went from, a time in your life when you went from laughing to dealing with a difficult challenge?
Speaker 2:Wow, that's a good question. Yeah, I mean, one of the things I always share with people is the moment. So to give you some backstories, so essentially I was an athlete, hence the football behind me. I played college football, got a chance to play basketball overseas in Asia sports for my whole life.
Speaker 2:As I got out of that, I consulted. I got into consulting One of my mentors. He taught me he grew and scaled Salesforce up to 100 million. He taught me outbound sales strategies and how he built Salesforce to that level. And so as a consultant, what I did was I reached out to organizations and companies and said, hey, I would love to help you grow and scale your company. And they would say, how much do you charge? And I said, hey, I don't charge anything, but I just charge a percentage of each sale that we make. So with that it was a very low risk to enter, low barrier to enter, and with that our portfolio grew no-transcript relationships with beautiful women all the time. That was honestly my goal and when I achieved that, I ended up moving to Tampa and I got all that.
Speaker 2:I lived that lifestyle and I just remember one day waking up and I didn't want to wake up that morning I had this hit in my stomach. I'm one of those guys that always had the motivation, always had the drive to work hard and be up early and then, all of a sudden, just this desire and drive just wasn't there, no more. One of the reasons being is that the Lord was in my life, but it was whenever it was convenient for me, and that's something that I always tell people. I always ask people when I go to a keynote. I said what's the difference between someone who's committed or interested? Do you know the difference, dorsey?
Speaker 1:I would say, interested is once in a while, you know, once in a while you're interested in that situation or in that topic, or in that. You know passion that you have, but committed to living it each day.
Speaker 2:Right, absolutely, man. You know one of the ways I say this interested is you do whatever is convenient. Committed is you do whatever it takes right. So it's like I wasn't committed to this Christianity walk, right, and obviously we all fall short of the glory of God, but I was doing whatever was convenient for me and I remember this. What did change my life? And I was like man, what is missing. You know, this is everything I thought I wanted. You know, I had a financial, a successful business, had a great lifestyle, was in great shape, great relationships, all these things, but it was like I was still missing something and it was the Lord. It was the last piece and one of the things that changed my life.
Speaker 2:And I've heard this chapter before and I heard this verse before, but I wanted to read it, but it was John 15. You know, jesus is the true vine, I am the true grapevine and my father is the gardener. He cuts off every branch of mine that doesn't produce fruit. He prunes the branches that do bear fruit so that they will produce even more. You have already been pruned and purified by the message I've given you. Remain in me and I will remain in you, for a branch cannot produce fruit if it is severed from the vine, and you cannot be fruitful unless you remain in me. Yes, I am the vine, you are the branches. Those who remain in me and I and them will produce much fruit, for apart from me, you can do nothing. And that really hit home for me and that again, that was one of those verses that just smacked me up inside the head and I don't know if you had any of those specific verses in your spiritual walk to dor Dorsey, that just you read it and it just gave you this whole new perspective. But it was one of those things where it's like here's the vine, here are the branches. If you think about the role of branches to a tree, if you think about it, all the branches have to do is stay connected to the soil, because the moment they break off, they essentially become useless and they start dying. But if they stay connected, what's going to start to happen? They're going to start to flourish and start to produce results.
Speaker 2:I was like man at that point in my life. I was one of those guys that had a gold card. I was in the personal development. I write my goals down every day. I say with affirmations, all these different things, and I'm like, lord, I hear you, but we got work to do. I have a plan right here. I have something that I need to focus on.
Speaker 2:What radically shifted was that Luke 14, verse 11, those who humble themselves will be exalted. Those who exalt themselves will be humbled. I quickly got humbled and I realized that, lord, I don't want my plan, I want your plan. So what are you blessing around me and how can I play a small part in that? The thing that you're working around and that was probably, you know, close to four or five years ago now where that's the, that shift I made, really made it in my life, and now it's that verse of the true testament.
Speaker 2:Like every area of my life, I start to bear fruit, and one of the fruits that I tell people is peace, peace, joy, happiness, fulfillment, and it's not things of this world, it's things that only can be given through the fruits of the Holy Spirit. And so that was something where I was happy, got disappointed, and then the Lord what's cool, whoever's listening to this, the Lord's going to meet you with where you're at, whatever you did, whatever you did in the past or whatever lifestyle you're currently living. The Lord can meet you with where you're at, and he can turn a negative situation into a positive situation, and so that's going to be a situation that I was happy and then got disappointed because I quickly realized that my plan was inferior to the Lord's plan.
Speaker 1:What was it that made you say, hey, I need to be more committed to Christ. Was it a sermon you heard? Was it something you read, or was it just God speaking to you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, that's a great question. I think it was a mixture of things, right. I think it was a mixture of frustration and not being satisfied and just having this feeling in my gut. It's like I don't know what needs to happen, but something needs to change right. And then another thing is just surrounding myself with like-minded individuals, right, like surrounding myself with godly individuals, because the people that were on I was. You know, I wouldn't say they were bad people, but they were in a similar boat. They were just lukewarm Christians, right and and again, we, we all fall short of the glory of God. We all have different seasons in our life, but in that season of my life I needed to be with Christians who were on fire for the Lord, because through them I got to see and got to build my faith up around strong individuals, people within the church, within the community, and then radically changing and shifting everything.
Speaker 2:Man, it's like you know the social media that you're on, the music, that you're listening to everything. Is it adding and building and creating life into my life or is it, you know, taking it away and making me feel less? Is it making me feel anxious? Is it leaving me with less energy, like really take inventory of what I was doing and is it actually enhancing my life? And you know, a mixture of all those different things came to a point where it's like, hey, I need to make a change.
Speaker 2:And, being around it, there's a movie movie I don't know if you got a chance to see it. If you haven't, definitely check it out. It's called the forge on netflix. Yeah, check it out and anyone that's watching it's a great movie. It's this guy or it's this kid. He's like, I think, 16 year old kid. He's got a lot of issues. He's, you know, he know he's just, he's just a teenager and this guy takes him under his wing and he, he basically they call it the forge. It's because he has a group of men, christian men that he basically pours into and speaks the word of Christ over. His life gets radically changed in the movie and I don't want to give away anything, but that's a high level of what's possible when you can surround yourself with people that are on fire for the Lord. That's what's great with social media and the Internet now is that if I don't have anyone in proximity, I mean most If you live in the US, there's usually a Christian church you can get plugged into. But even if you're not close to anything or whatever your situation at home, you can put on a podcast, you could put on a video, you could put on a church service with someone that's filled with the Holy Spirit, because the Lord can work in a lot of different ways and the more you can surround yourself with that, your life's going to change.
Speaker 2:And the last thing, with that abiding in the word of Christ every single day that absolutely changed my life. When I read that verse, I was like you know what? I'm going to read the Bible every day and there's certain days where I may read one verse. It may be a busy day, but ever since that moment, I've never missed a day, like I've always been in the word of Christ. Because one of the things that I heard people say is you know, just listen to the Lord, you know hear, you know just just. You know communicate. And I always I remember hearing that and I said what does that even mean? What does that even mean to hear from the Lord Like is I'm supposed to be talked to? Well, you know, the Bible talks about it. In John one. It says the Lord, the word is God, the word was with God and the word is breathed by God, you know. So it's like. Those are the words that the Lord used vessels to share in the Bible, and so that is a living, breathing word that I can pour into my life every single day.
Speaker 2:Because once you start doing that, what starts to happen is you know, everyone knows, is pretty familiar with the Lord's Prayer. You know, our Father, who art in heaven. Hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come. Thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven. And that's the prayer is that when the Lord made Garden of Eden, there was so much abundance, there was gold, they had everything you needed.
Speaker 2:And what does the enemy do? He comes into the Garden of Eden and he deceives Adam and Eve and say, hey, don't you want this, don't you want to eat from this fruit of this tree over here? You guys don't have everything. You guys are missing out on this, and that's another thing. It's like what are we focusing? Are we focusing on what we're quote, unquote? Because if we're within the word of Christ and we're fully on board and we submit ourselves to the Lord, the Lord is everything. So we don't lack anything and the Lord operates with absolute excellence and abundance and prosperity, and so if we can align ourselves with that, then we're going to start to bear fruit.
Speaker 2:And that's something I did. I took inventory. I said, lord, if that's true, if you're saying this, it even goes later on and says where is it? I've told you these things that you'll be filled with joy. This is my commandment. And then he goes in to love each other, I have no longer.
Speaker 2:He basically says later on, it says whatever's your heart desire, I will grant you Right. And it's not because he's giving it to us because we want it, Like it's a genie in a bottle. It's because once our hearts desires start to become what the Lord desires for our life, then that's what starts to happen. Right, because it's written, and that's what I would say is abide in the word of Christ, start reading the Bible. That's going to be your best person of all in the book. If anything's going wrong, you're struggling financially, you're lacking happiness, you're struggling in your relationships, and I know I'm preaching to the choir here too, dorsey, but that really changed my life because when that got into my life, things that weren't serving me started to flee from my life, and I'm forever grateful, and you know that's why I'm even here on this podcast is to spread the good news too, man, and you know that's why I'm even here on this podcast is to spread the good news too.
Speaker 1:man, amen. Now you said that you played football in college. Where did you go to college and play football and how did you get into what you do today? Did you study it?
Speaker 2:Did you? Yeah, that's a great question. So yeah, in Cleveland, man, there's two things you play sports or you get in trouble. I did a little bit of both, but the sports kept me on track. And one of the things, basketball was always my passion, but football I was the best at just due to my size and stuff like that. And so there's a school called John Carroll University. It's a division three. It's funny because a lot of my coaches ended up making it to the NFL coaching staff. So I don't know if you saw, but the Houston Texans just recently, there's a player that shoved this coach. I don't know, it was on the headlines, but that coach that he shoved was actually one of my coaches and he was just super intense and I could see how emotions flare up during the game. But you know, football was. You know, sports really gave me a foundation because I was held accountable as a group of like-minded individuals. We had a strict schedule, so I was held to a schedule. I knew exactly what I needed to do In college.
Speaker 2:It's a full-time job. You got to watch film. You watch film for like an hour and a half. You go to class for three or four hours, you live for an hour and a half to two hours. You go to practice for three to four hours. Next thing, you know, you know you got to go to sleep. So it's like you know.
Speaker 2:My coach said this you can only have three things. You have social life, football and your academics. And so that's what he said. You can only have two out of the three. If you want to do good in school and be good at football, that's possible, but your social life is going to slap. If you're going to have a good social life, you're going to be good at football, but your academics are going to slap. If you want to have a good social life and good academics, then your football is going to slap. That's when you really got to get clear For me. I got to a point in my life where I knew I wasn't going to the NFL. I had to walk away from the game.
Speaker 2:Eventually I decided to double down on business and I always knew I wanted to go into business because I didn't want to be limited to what I could earn and what I could provide for my family. So I got into business because I love numbers and I love business. I was thinking about going into accounting. I saw a set and I was very involved in the community and on campus. I did a lot of things, but what I did was I interviewed accountants. I was like, hey, how do you like the profession? You know, is this enjoyable, like you know? Tell me about it, I would love to learn more.
Speaker 2:Almost every accountant that I interacted with they were either excited to leave the profession and now they're opening up their own business. They're like, hey, it was great, but now I have the opportunity to start my own business. I knew this one guy who bought like a SoulCycle. But then the other accountants I saw they weren't really happy doing the accounting. They said it was good, hey, but they really weren't happy. And if you look it up, accountants are actually one of the highest suicide rates tied to a profession. And so I was like man, that doesn't sound good. And so then I looked into the finance. You know, work on Wall Street, investment banking. I was like I like numbers, that's what I want to do. But I just remember going into that and a lot of individuals were, you know, relying on substances like drugs and alcohol and making good money, but it really wasn't a healthy lifestyle. Again, I was like, man, I don't think that's the path for me either. So I was like, let me just go with marketing. Marketing is the easy business degree and that's my philosophy around it If I can help people market and sell and promote, then I can always be valuable within the marketplace as well.
Speaker 2:I got a degree in marketing. I took a different path than most entrepreneurs. I played out the full four years and I got to a point I did everything right, got good grades, got a good job. I got positions. I was working in positions when I was in college, so I started early, but then I realized I wasn't able to provide for my family and for myself at the lifestyle that I wanted.
Speaker 2:So I ran into my mentor.
Speaker 2:I started picking up books, I started going to live events and, like I mentioned before my mentor, he helped grow and scale Salesforce up to a hundred millions of sales system and so I learned from people that actually got out and done it and then from there just implemented with companies all around the world and I've been consulting now for the last 12 years specifically around that.
Speaker 2:That then led to me working with the largest personal development company in the world. What they did was they brought me in to help them grow their sales and marketing. They partnered with people like Tony Robbins, grant Cardone, gary Vee, damien, john, robert Kiyosaki all these guys and even they did stuff with Donald Trump before he was president, and that's when I really understood the business model of like hey businesses. They were making millions of dollars in a weekend, and if I can help produce sales, depending on how much profit they make, I can get paid in proportion to that, and so that was really a concept that I ran with and it's really served me for the last 12 years of just helping people grow their sales and marketing Developing systems, processes, developing their sales teams, developing marketing strategies. It's all around scaling and growing the company on the front end.
Speaker 1:Yeah, now I think I heard that you also. You know, along with Damon Gronk, you also worked with one of the other slots, mr Wonderful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Kevin O'Leary. Yeah, he was great.
Speaker 1:How? What is it like working with him? Because on the show he seemed like you know he's in business. He wants to knock out everybody else to get that deal. How is it business? He wants to knock out everybody else to get that deal. He's actually as wonderful as he seems on TV.
Speaker 2:There's a Mr Wonderful. He's a funny guy. I'm a big Shark Tank. I watch a lot of Shark Tank. One of the quotes that he says a lot and you can even type and you can find episodes. He says multiple episodes.
Speaker 2:He's very direct with the contestants. Right, they come up and he's like he's like you know what you need to do. You take it behind the barn and shoot it. He's super intense when he says it right, you know, obviously it's a character, it's tv and so he has to make it interesting. But he genuinely says that because he genuinely cares about the individuals.
Speaker 2:And then, with the seriousness and the business acumen, it's his money that he's putting up. And if you look at his background, he was a finance guy. He was very conservative with his money. He was one of those guys that invested his money and it slowly compounded and it worked for him. And then at a point in his career later in his 50s or 60s or however old it was when he started getting on the shark tank, he then started investing in companies, which is different than a lot of the other sharks. Because if you look at Damon, he built FUBU. He was young, young guy selling t-shirts, built this global brand, received funds at an early age. Mark Cuban had this massive tech sale. Robert Herjavec also got into technology, had a massive sale. Lori, she's still young. She made her money through QVC, and then Barbara Corcoran. Barbara Corcoran has a similar journey, but she puts a lot of her investments in real estate.
Speaker 2:So he's one of those guys that's very conservative with his money and there's even reports in the news headlines that he's like if you get married, make sure you sign a prenup. He'll say certain things like that because that's just who he is. But he he says that because he genuinely cares about the contestant and generally wants to make money. But the main focus or kevin o'leary, why he's mr wonderful is that if you do have a good product or service and you can work with him, he does bring a lot of value.
Speaker 2:But he is a shark and he's going to make you an offer that obviously has his best interests in mind and this is his own money that he's worked decades for, so it's not going to be cheap to work with him, and that's most of the sharks as well. But, yeah, he's worked decades for, so it's not going to be cheap to work with him, and that's most of the sharks as well. But yeah, he's a good guy. I remember talking to him on stage and behind the stage and stuff like that. He's the solid guy. He's not as cutthroat as the tv show makes it seem like yeah, tell me, what does it mean to win the day?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question. Yeah, when you're asking me before with, like, you know, what did I do and what did I change to start building momentum in my life. Win the day and whatever that looks like. So that's a message I like to tell people win the moment, win the day, because if I can win the day, that's going to turn into winning the weeks, and if I can win weeks that's going to turn into winning months, and if I can win some months I can string together winning years and whatever that looks like for you. Maybe there's someone out there that's an alcoholic. For them, to win the day, they have to stop drinking alcohol. Maybe that's winning the day.
Speaker 2:For me it was making sure I get well, rest, like eight hours of sleep, making sure that I read the Bible. For me, keeping it simple was like that's winning the day for me when I first started. And obviously, as you grow and scale an organization and you do different things and you grow as an individual, you can start adding things to that. But winning the day is having two or three things that you do consistently, non-negotiables, that you can just commit to, even when you don't feel like it, not when it's convenient, but when I commit to it, that's winning the day. So then I had a little journal. I had a couple three things what I needed to do for the day get my eight hours of sleep, maybe get 30 minutes of steps in and then ultimately read the Bible. And if I did that, you classify what those things are and if you do that you check all three off, you win the day, and if you don't, you don't win the day. So it's like if you can win the day consistently, you're going to build momentum and then you're going to look back and be like wow, because that small muscle of discipline and consistency starts to compound in your favor. And then next thing you know, it's like you look back and you're like, man, how did I get to where I am? It's like, well, of all the work that I did every single day, and it's the stuff that you know.
Speaker 2:One of my favorite quotes is what you do in private is what people reward you in public. Is what you do in private right? So it's like the things that you do when no one's watching is what people recognize you publicly for right and so. But it's not like that when you're in the trenches and you're working every single day, no one's watching. It's like building a podcast man. There's a lot of work that goes into building a podcast and reaching people and having amazing conversations, and it's not just about getting reach and getting more exposure. But it takes time. It's not something that happens overnight. I know you've done a lot of awesome episodes, dorsey.
Speaker 1:Thank you. How do you merge business and Jesus together? I'm sorry business, and how do you move business and Jesus together?
Speaker 2:I'm sorry, business, and what was the last word? Jesus Christ? Oh Jesus, yeah, yeah, that's a great question. I think that was something that shifted with me with the John 15 chapter. It's like, you know, if business is a spiritual game, has a standard of excellence in everything about it and I just am not experiencing that in my business then what needs to change? I need to start getting alignment framed to the Lord and literally it comes when I first started and even still to this day I'm like Lord, I may not have all the answers, you have my mind, you have my heart, you have my soul, you have my hands. Everything is yours. Like let's go win the day, let's go impact some lives, let's go build something great together, right, and it's like this conversation and partnership with the Lord, and then when you make the money and grow your team, it has nothing to do with you. Obviously, you have to stay consistent of what you need to do for the day and be a steward of that. But at the end of the day, we're all dust, we're all dirt, we're all going to die one day, and that's how we started. So I'm not going to put a huge emphasis on my losses or my successes because I can have a steadfast steadiness and peace and fulfillment and contentment in my life, knowing that the Lord is going to provide, like he always does and he always will. Right, yeah, and so, yeah, how do you integrate it? You know, I would say you know, how can you not? Because here's another thing too, one of the things that I got a chance to consult with organizations. We would help them grow and scale the sales and make a lot of money with them, and it was great.
Speaker 2:But then it got to a point with the CEO and the business owners I was working with. The question became how much time are they abiding with the word of Christ every single day? And if the answer is zero and I'm working and serving the CEO and business owner, what does that say about me? And I just remember it's like I need to be working and building something for the kingdom so I don't just work in vain, and the Bible clearly talks about that too. And if you don't have peace, you're not bearing fruit in your life. Then I need to look around me and say Lord, what's going on Like? Is it just I'm in the wrong vehicle? I need to completely pivot, or is it. Just I need to be more patient and stay consistent with it and be more disciplined, because if you ask those questions, the Lord's going to instantly tell you, because most people know what they need to do, they're just not doing it.
Speaker 2:And so, with the Lord and business, it's always like Lord, this is my plan, this is how we're going to continue to market the organization, this is how we're going to scale and grow the organization. This is the plan right now, lord, if there's anything else that I missed or I'm not seeing, please let me know, because the last thing I would want to do is do something that's out of your plan and out of alignment with what you're trying and calling me to do. Right, and that's the level that it has to get to every single day in business. Right, it's like Lord, let's build, let's build, cultivate. And the last thing I'll say, with that is a byproduct of all that is the relationships in the business. Because when also and I kind of learned this about seven years ago, but it was just re-solidified about five years ago, when I implemented that burst in my life was relationship A lot of businesses that I consulted with were very transactional.
Speaker 2:It was like hey, let's run ads, let's market the company, let's close the deal, let's collect the cash and do it again, and that's great to be profitable, but if you're not developing and cultivating the relationship, how much long-term success are you really going to have? And that's why you see a lot of marketing agencies or companies on the internet that are extremely transactional. They may have some success in the short term, but they're no longer around, or you may not hear about them, or they shift or something happens. Why? Because they're not focusing on cultivating relationships. And that's how the Lord is. He wants a relationship with all of them, and if we can cultivate a relationship with the Lord and with ourselves, then we're going to be able to cultivate relationships with everyone around us. And if we do that, it's just a matter of time before the Lord's going to bless you in abundance and prosperity and give you exactly what you need. And it's like you know.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you brought this up, dorsey, because one of the things I also share and like to talk about is, you know, when I consulted with other organizations, I would help them grow and scale their company and I would pray for years, say Lord, I want my own offer, I want my own business and the Lord's like I want you here. Okay, I want you promoting this company. I want you promoting this company. I want you learning the skill sets, doing it as if it was your own business, because that's another thing.
Speaker 2:Treat if you are in a business, if you are working for an organization or for a company, treat it as if it's your own. Look around you, where your place, at your room, your office, everything around you Is it at a level of excellence? Because if I can't take care of, let's say, one room, why would the Lord bless me with a full, entire house, acres of land? It's like the Lord's going to bless us and meet us with what we can handle. If we can handle our position at our workplace, then he's going to give us more responsibility that's going to eventually blossom into a business.
Speaker 2:Whoever's listening to this? It's like look at what's in front of you on your plate and do it with the highest level of quality, as if this was your own, as if it was for the Lord. Don't do it for yourself, don't do it for others, do it for the Lord and start to see what happens. And that's a very humbling process and that's not easy, but if you can stay the path, stay humble, stay disciplined, stay consistent. You know the Bible talks about it too. It's a furnace. We go through a furnace. It's this incineration period where it burns the impurities from us, from our heart, from our mind, from our soul. That process is a painful process, but on the other side we're going to come out a new individual, the person that the Lord has always called us to be.
Speaker 2:And that's the final thing I'll say with this business in Jesus is that if you can incorporate it, it's really having core values.
Speaker 2:And if you have the Lord incorporated, then it doesn't matter what industry you're in, it doesn't matter what time of year it is, because if the Lord has favor over you, you're going to find a way. If Jesus rose again three days after the dead from the dead, after three days of being dead, I think he can help you create a profitable business. And that same Holy Spirit that's within Jesus is within all of us and we have access to it through the Holy Word of the Bible. And so, yeah, I mean it's the only way to do business and that's one of the things I'm passionate about. And people can grab a hold of that and abide in the Lord, and that's one of the things I'm passionate about, and people can grab a hold of that and abide in the Lord, and if the Lord's calling me to get into business, I'd be more than happy to connect with anyone that has questions on that, because it's absolutely changed my life and changed my business.
Speaker 1:Yeah, give me one second. In the last few minutes of this episode, I want to talk about purpose.
Speaker 2:Sure.
Speaker 1:What does purpose look like to you and how do you find your life purpose?
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a great question. Well, a couple of things we have to understand. What does purpose mean? So the prefix P-U-R is set forth beforehand and pose is an intention. So if you just look at purpose of the word because there's my life's purpose and purpose those are two different things Purpose is set forth beforehand or the intention that's set forth beforehand.
Speaker 2:So if you think about it, you know, let's say that football back there, the purpose is for it to be a football and play a game with it. That's the purpose of it, right, but now and that purpose can shift every single day Maybe the purpose is to run it, maybe I can throw it, maybe I can catch it. That purpose changes. But what's my life's purpose? Why am I here on this earth? Now, that's a higher level thing. So there's understanding what my life's purpose is and understanding what my purpose is for today and so. But if you think about it though, purpose it's the purest, and pure P-U-R also is found in pure. It's the purest intention set forth beforehand. If you think about it, our life's purpose was set forth with the purest intention before we were ever created. If you think about that, we were hand designed and handcrafted by the creator With that. I need to understand. I need to understand that I have value, I have purpose and I'm here for a reason. Because a lot of people don't even believe that oh, the Lord can't use me, I'm not smart enough, whatever thing that they put there. They need to understand that they're here for a reason. If you look at the odds of why you're here, it's like one in 10 million or potentially, I don't even know, but it's a large number. You're better off playing the lottery, hitting the what was it? The lotto, the super eight or super six, whatever it is, because those odds are better than us being here. So the fact that you're here, there's a reason. And even for you, dorsey I mean, you inspire me every day, man there's purpose in everything that you do in your life, right? And so it's like you know, our life's purpose is something that's set forth beforehand.
Speaker 2:And then you take it even a step further and say service. We're here to serve. And the reason why I know that is because we're hardwired to serve, because when we serve and do things for other people, or when we serve, our brain releases dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, all these amazing chemicals that make us feel good. Why? Because we as human beings are here to serve. So to understand our life's purpose at the high level this is the macro level is we're called to serve. So then the question becomes on the micro level, what are we serving? Are we serving ourselves, are we serving others or are we serving the creator? There's three levels myself, others and the creator. So then at that point, sometimes I'm in the wrong vehicle and sometimes I'm in the right vehicle, serving the wrong person. So let's say I'm running a business, but I'm serving myself and only myself, versus I'm in the right business, I'm in the right industry, I'm in the right vehicle, but now I just need to shift from serving myself to serving the Lord.
Speaker 2:And then that question becomes hey, lord, is this what I'm truly called to do? Am I called to do this? And one of the things to look at is does it give you energy? Does it excite you? Are you passionate about it? Are you? Does it bring you peace? Are you bearing fruit?
Speaker 2:Because what happens if you do something and you hate it, it's taken from it. It's not bringing you peace, it's not bringing you, it takes away from your passion. Then it's like you're trying to put a square peg in a circle in a circle, a hole. It doesn't work. And you could try to force your way in and try to figure it out and put it willpower over it and do it your way. And trust me, I'm stubborn, I know I'm trying to do it that way, but that's not what you're called to do, because when you're called to do something, not only will you enjoy it, you have peace, you're going to get accelerated results in a pretty short period of time, like I remember when I shot a basketball, I just had a natural. I would just shoot it, and obviously I wasn't the greatest player in the world. But if I just practiced it for like a couple of days, I had an accelerated results because I was naturally good at it. But things like ice skating no, ice skating is not for me. I'm probably going to bust my neck, break my ankle. That's something that I stay far away from.
Speaker 2:So it's like also having that understanding of what you're good at and what you're not good at, because we're all designed differently. Think of an animal. Animals are good example. Well, animals, depending on how they're made and how they're created, they thrive in certain environments and they thrive doing other things. So have it some. Just like you know, if you think about like a snail snail just sleeps all day, stays protected Then you got a cheetah who actually goes out and hunts Like we're all part of the whole right. It's like another way to think of it is like our body. You have fingers, hands, legs, arms. Is a thumb more important than a toe? No, because we both need our thumb and we need our toes right, and they both play a purpose. But when they're attached to the source and to our body, they make us complete, and without it then we're missing something.
Speaker 2:And so how to find your life's purpose? You got to get clear on who you're serving. Am I serving myself? Am I serving others? Am I serving the Lord? Now I can get clear on serving the Lord every single day and, like I said before, if you don't know what that looks like, asking him and demanding and expecting an answer, saying, hey, lord, I'm serving you. Today I'm doing whatever I have. My heart, my mind, my soul, my hands, all the skills that you've given me is yours. How can we get to work today If you're just coming with that mentality and that mindset? What's going to start to happen? You're going to start to find opportunities to serve the Lord right, because the Lord's looking for people to work. You know, the workers are few and the harvest is plenty.
Speaker 2:One of the sayings I like to say all are called, but few pick up. Only a few picked up the call. Because we're all called here and we all play a purpose in this thing called life, and so it's just a matter of making sure that we serve the Lord and in the micro it's a purpose. It's just like. What does that look like? Let's say you want to lose weight, that's the goal. And then I start to create a plan to achieve those goals. And then I start to create a plan to achieve those goals and then I can start to find purpose in my everyday life. But once you get clear on that, you're serving the Lord and how to create a purpose driven business.
Speaker 2:Another thing is, once you found your purpose, now it's how do I make money with it? Well, how do we make money with it is who are you called to serve, what problems are you called to solve and how are you called to solve that problem? And what I like to do is start with people that you can relate with Like for me, I can relate with athletes Help people that are transitioning out of sports. That's the individual. That's where they're at in their life.
Speaker 2:The problem are people that are struggling to find their life's purpose, and then the solution is through my books, my keynotes, the purpose-driven businesses that I build through my content online. It's all surrounded that, and if the problem is big enough or the problem is experienced by a lot of people, people are going to be willing to pay you money. And so, bigger the problem, bigger the solution, bigger the payout. Smaller the problem, smaller the solution, smaller the payout. But if you look at all great organizations like, if you look at like Amazon, you can order something and get something shipped to your door in 24 hours. That's pretty convenient, right, and that's a problem that the logistics industry couldn't solve for the longest time. But that's whatever customer wants. They want to purchase something and they want it shipped to their door, ideally that day, but if not today, tomorrow, and if you can do that, you can now get paid on doing that.
Speaker 2:Hopefully that gives you some insight and once you know who you serve, what problems you solve and then how you call to solve that problem, that's going to give you a perfect statement, your mission statement I help blank. I help athletes with their problem find their life's purpose through blank, through the solution, through books, purpose-driven businesses, presentations, content, online. And then you start to formulate that and it starts to come to love and it starts to cultivate and you start to get clearer around the vision. Because there's another saying if the Lord gives you a vision, he's not going to tell you everything that you need to do to achieve the vision, because if you understood how much work you need to do to achieve the vision, then most people won't pursue their dreams and their vision Right and so high level.
Speaker 2:I'm serving the Lord. Who am I serving? That's going to give me my life's purpose, that's, our life's purpose is to serve one another and to serve the Lord. Because if we can serve the Lord, simultaneously, we're going to be serving others and ourselves. And then, as a byproduct of that, we're now going to find something that's bigger than ourselves and we're going to start to look around us and be like, hey, how can I serve you, lord? Well, how can I serve your people? How can I serve Okay? Well, I see these people out here struggling with this. They have problems. Well, what's the solution? Let's say they're hungry. Well, how can we get them food? Well, I can start a restaurant.
Speaker 2:Well, whatever the case may be, whoever you feel drawn to, that you see people that you can relate to and you have a heart for, and you see them experiencing problems. It's like that's how you can create a business, that's how you can find your life's purpose, that's how you can serve the Lord is. Look around you. Who do you tell? Because a lot of people in this world they need help. We all need help, and so the Lord saved us by the mercy and grace of God, and so do that. And then you can start to find problems around you, provide solutions, and now you can get paid for those solutions. Now you create a business around helping and serving people and serving the Lord. And I always tell people, if you partner with the creator of the universe, good things will start to happen.
Speaker 1:And it doesn't really have to be. You know, a business you know your purpose doesn't necessarily mean you have to. You know, go into business. You know purpose can be helping people at church or helping people Absolutely, you know you help your family.
Speaker 2:You know that purpose, that purpose, it will evolve every day. Man, You're like a, you're like a missionary like a, you're like a military on deployment. That mission changes every day and every second Cause, you know, let's say, like things in California, things happen, fires, people's houses burned down. My mission is going to change. Right, If I'm in that situation, my mission and my purpose that day is going to shift to something else. Right, so it's like, but at a high level, I'm always serving the Lord. So, whatever that looks like for individuals that's listening to this and where they're at, it's like how can I serve the Lord today? And that starts with, you know, taking out some sin in our life. Maybe it's with the people around us, foreign life and the people around us, with our friends and our family. It could be the smallest little thing, but if we do it for the Lord, those little things start to become big things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, as I thought, as I, you know, thinking about asking you these questions, a song came into my mind, and it's the 80s Stephen Taylor Chapman Chapman song. You know more to this life, and of course, but there's more to this life than living and dying, more to this life than trying to make it through the day, more to this life, more than the eyes alone can see, and there's more to this life alone can be. Tonight he lies in silence, staring into the space and looks for ways to make tomorrow better than today. But in the morning light it looks the same. Life just goes on. And in my thinking, what I'm trying to, how I interpret that, is he's saying that sometimes, when we wake up the next day, we should go back to what we did the day before. We don't try to make changes to the next day. To make life. You know more. You know have, like you're saying, have life a purpose each day.
Speaker 2:Sure, yeah, absolutely. And yeah, man, man, we got to make every day count. We have to win the day it, make the most of it, because we don't know when that day's gonna come, because we're all on borrowed time, right, and it's like that day is gonna come for all of us, and so we have to make it worthwhile today, right and so, and so I agree. And then also too, life isn't you know, you didn't even talk about it in the Bible too, it was, uh, you know, samuel, king Samuel.
Speaker 2:Life's more than just earthly pleasures, you know, like personal gain and earthly pleasures. And if we all can get to a place where it's like, hey, we're here, not because we're whoever it is, or it's because of our own willpower, it's due to the fact that we're a small part into the greater whole of things, then life starts to change. You don't become the center of the universe, you don't become the center of the world or your day. Now. You revolve your day around the Lord, and when you do that, the Lord does miracles. He works miracles every single day, and if you just are open to receiving that and you're open to contributing to it, the Lord's going to continue to bless you and he's going to continue to give you opportunity to do so to continue to give you the opportunity to do so.
Speaker 1:Can you give us one or two Bible verses where you see the Bible talking about purpose for our lives versus purpose in general?
Speaker 2:Yeah, there's just one verse. I think it's Jeremiah. I want to say it's Jeremiah 2.10. Let me just confirm here oh, ephesians 2.10. This is it. I got the wrong chapter. I'm in Jeremiah right now. It's Ephesians 2.10, not Jeremiah 2.10.
Speaker 2:It's for we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good work which God prepared in advance for us to do. That's like you know. You know, for we are God's workmanship, created in Christ Jesus to do good works which God prepared in advance for us to do. Like we're called to do good things, man, like the Lord's, handcrafted us this way. Another one I like is Proverbs 16, verse nine.
Speaker 2:It says the heart of man plans his way, but the Lord establishes his steps, and so that's another thing. It's just like. Again, you know I can try to do it my way, but the Lord's going to establish our steps. But how does he establish our steps? He establishes our steps with.
Speaker 2:You know our passions, what excites us, where we live, our family, like everything about our lives, of who we're related to, where we live. You know how we act, how we think. You know what we like, what we dislike. That is established. That's the Lord establishing our step, right, like I said before, I'm not going to be drawn towards ice skating because that's not my plan. That's not what excites me. In fact it terrifies me. I don't want to get injured, but those are things. The desires of our hearts are also going to determine our life, and so the more that we can get invested in the Lord, the more we can understand his plan and we can live out the purpose. So those are some good ones. I'll send you a couple more. We may be posted on the bottom of the comment section. But yeah, there's a lot of good ones, but those are some of the few that come to my mind recently.
Speaker 1:How can people, if they wanted to connect with you and say hello and see what else you're up to?
Speaker 2:Sure, well, if you ever want to connect with me, make sure to reach out to Doris to give him a big hug for me. But yeah, you can find me on LinkedIn or Instagram, and those are probably the easiest ways, or Facebook, but I would say Instagram and LinkedIn are the easiest. If you just type in LinkedIn, tyler Cerny, you'll find me, and LinkedIn or I'm sorry, instagram, if you type in Tyler Cerny, you'll find me too. But my username is Tyler D Cerny Diaz and Daniel, which is my middle name, so we can include that and then reach out to me on there. Those are probably the two easiest ways and we can get connected. And if you have any questions, more than happy to help you find purpose and get on fire for the Lord, because I know the type of impact that's had on my life.
Speaker 1:Well, Tyler, thank you so much for coming on the show today. We greatly appreciate having you.
Speaker 2:Of course, man Dorsey. It's always been a pleasure, and God bless you brother.
Speaker 1:Well, ladies and gentlemen, thank you again for coming on and hearing this episode and please go and check out Tyler and see what he's up to, and hope you are encouraged and inspired by this episode and hopefully you'll get to know your life purpose and know that God loves you and cares for you and wants you to have a great life and great purpose for your life. And until next time, god bless. Bye-bye.
