Nurturing Connections After Birth

Oh, the postpartum period—the time when everything feels impossibly full (your heart, your hands, and let’s be frank, your boobs). In this episode, we’re cracking open what it really takes to nurture yourself after birth—not the Insta-perfect, "bounce-back" myth, but the slow, sacred, and unapologetic process of receiving.

Why do so many of us resist rest, help, and even our own innate wisdom? What would it look like to give ourselves the same grace we’d offer to someone we love? And how do we shift from simply surviving postpartum to thriving in connection and recovery?

Joined by the delightful Jennifer Cruise from Nurturing Connections with Jen, we unpack:

• Why you can’t pour from an empty cup (or give from your cup at all—hello, saucer life)
• How to build your village and set boundaries with love
• What it means to honour your identity as a mum while still holding onto the parts of yourself that make you you

How can you embrace rest without feeling like you’re losing yourself in the process?
What’s stopping you from asking for or accepting the help you deserve?
Could prioritising your own well-being now be the greatest gift you give your child in the long term?

This is your permission slip to fark the checklists, fark the societal noise, and embrace real recovery, presence, and ease. Because when you care for yourself, you’re not just filling your cup—you’re reshaping how we parent, live, and connect as a whole.

Whether you’re a mum, a soon-to-be parent, or someone holding space for loved ones navigating this wild season of life, this episode is for you. So grab a cuppa (or better yet, let someone make you one!) and join us as we explore the radical, revolutionary act of receiving.

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Transcript

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You know, one of the other big messages that I've given to so many of my clients is how would you treat someone that you love and care for? So why are we not able to give ourselves the same amount of grace that we would give our best friends, our mothers, daughters, sisters, you know, whoever? Why can we not give ourselves that grace? This is the biggest transformation you will ever go through in your entire life. And, you know, I think that there is definitely that lost sense of, innate kind of knowledge and empowerment Hello Quanti-folks and welcome to another episode of Fark The Shoulds podcast vlog cast. I'm very excited today to be having a conversation about looking after ourselves after birth, which universally is done pretty poorly in these Western countries because we're so busy doing. So let's jump right into the conversation. I am Jodi from QuantiMama and today I'm joined by the beautiful Jen who is very excitingly expecting her baby very soon. but she also offers post-birth care and she's gonna talk more about that and why it's so important to do that. So Jen is Nurturing Connections with Jen and you can find her on socials. And Jen, thank you so Thank you so much, Jodi. It's an absolute pleasure to be here and to have this conversation. Yeah. And, you know, obviously something that's very close to my heart at the moment, you know, going through my own personal journey. But also having Yeah. So. I mean, let's do a quick synopsis, because I think for people out there listening and watching, they will know that I've had four babies, and one of the things that I've done, I've rocked with each baby, is empowered birth. Like, the first one was kind of okay, and then I really, you know, sunk my teeth into it from the second, third and fourth. But one thing that I didn't do was take really great care of myself post-birth. And that's why I really want to have this conversation because someone even as well versed in this stuff as me, I think really if I knew what I knew now, I would do it completely differently. And so that's why I'm really keen. So walk us through what post-birth care looks like and particularly where your Yeah, absolutely. I mean, I think we all fall into that trap. And I think, like you said at the start, Western society is very much have a baby. OK, cool. And you're back to life. You know, there's there's beautiful, beautiful traditions in other cultures that are really honoring and amazing to mothers that, you know, keep them in bed with their babies for a certain amount of time. have all of these kind of family and villagers come in for this support and we just don't have any of that. Not sure why but we don't. So I think that that's really come to the forefront and you know there's There's these bits and pieces that kind of get thrown out when you're going through these systems, like, oh, make sure you look after yourself after you have baby. But it's like, what does that actually even really look like or feel like? And I think one of the biggest umbrellas that I can sort of come to is connection, is connection and attachment and bonding. Because if we are not actually taking that time to get to know our babies and to get to know ourselves as this new parent role, that kind of sets us up for some of those challenges kind of a little bit later on. And having worked in the perinatal mental health counselling space for the last six years, I very much have seen how that can lead to those really difficult times for mums and new parents. So I think my biggest passion, my biggest kind of hope is to really put those supports and the focus on connection and recovery and really asking for those supports really early on so that we don't get to that crisis point. You know, we don't actually need to wait until we are at that exhausted, overwhelmed kind of state. There's so much we can be doing in those moments, in those Yeah, absolutely. It's such an interesting thing for me, and we'll talk more about the details, because obviously people need something tangible to kind of hang on to, to go, okay, what's the solution, what does that look like? But I absolutely agree with what you're saying in terms of the impact, and where I'm really interested in the conversation, and it keeps coming up, is this permission-based world that we're in, where we, We don't do stuff until we have the universal boulder hit us swiftly and knock us down the hill to actually create that environment of receiving and resourcing ourselves in a way that probably would have put us in a very different place if we had have actually just taken that on. Part of this postnatal care, when we break it down for people, what I would love to do is just to have the whole baby gift thing completely rewritten so that it's things that actually nurture the family and do promote that connection. You can literally just hang out with your baby and get the rest that you absolutely need after running a marathon, which is birth, however it unfolds. So what are the basics that people can do? When you talk about, you know, how do we, how, how, what, how will you be doing post birth care, given you are right on the precipice of welcoming your baby? What's that going to look like for Absolutely. I think one of the biggest learnings that I have come through in my own lived experience this time, but as well as walking alongside so many women, in my professional realm as well, is that we need to start having these conversations earlier. This is actually a whole journey process. And from when you conceive, from when you're first pregnant, that's when we should be starting to have these conversations. We really need to start to link all of this into intrinsically this beautiful, amazing transition in our lives, rather than these separate kind of elements of pregnancy. Okay, now we're going to give birth and we're going to, you know, talk about all the physical stuff and we're going to focus on all the, you know, the physical elements and what that's going to be like and how you get through this section. Okay, now this section, you know, I really would love that to be a bit more of a fluid, And, you know, early intervention is best. That's for my professional kind of realm. And the earlier and the earlier we can start to talk about that and start to make plans around that. And, you know, I think when I say make plans, I want to be really cautious about that because we don't need more checklists. We actually don't. You know, I think checklists create such stress and stress parents are, you know, isolated parents and isolated parents are stress parents. And so, you know, a massive message. And I know that you are huge advocate for this and it's about building, building your village, right? From, from early on, from really early on getting whoever it is that you feel you can trust and be around and have that, that amazing kind of, um, like those beautiful energies with, and just getting them on board, you know, how, how do we, how do we do this together? How do we make this transition such, um, that is extremely supportive and, incredible for the whole family, Yes, absolutely. Well, I mean, there is a staggering rate of relationships that are under huge pressure in the first year of having a baby because the dynamic absolutely shifts. And, you know, this beautiful mummy and daddy time that created this human then suddenly gets shunted to this very dependent human being that now requires a lot of energy and is really exhausting. I know one of the things that I would certainly recommend to any pregnant couples that I'm talking to would be to rest, rest, rest afterwards. But that advice was given to me and I reflect on that and I go, why didn't I do that? Because I definitely did not rest after I gave birth. I mean, a couple of sleeps in there, The advice was always, when the baby's sleeping, you sleep. And I'm like, hell no. When the baby's sleeping, I'm going to go have some time to get all the stuff done that I want to get done. So when we have these women that are very conditioned and used to being busy and ticking things off the list, it's about acknowledging we don't want to lose that sense of, I guess, identity. we've already got a new identity being that of the mother, which we probably feel completely unequipped for, and, you know, often under-resourced. And so when you support women post-natally who are, you know, roll like I do, lots of energy generally, until you get too tired, and, you know, want to keep doing and have that sense of wanting to still hold on to who they are by getting stuff done so they won't go and sleep when the baby sleeps. What are some of the other ways that we can still meet that need for rest and replenishment, but also meet Yeah, and I think that this is actually one of the biggest kind of elements that have come up, especially my perinatal mental health counselor role as well, is really this sense of identity and where does it go and how does it change and how does that feel? And again, I think it is about raising that awareness of when you're pregnant or when you're ready, you know, having a baby, this is not just a physical aspect thing. This is going to change everything about you in a very holistic nature. And so let's talk about that. You know, let's talk about ways that we hold on to some of those elements of our identity and also get okay with that being adaptable. So it might not look exactly the same and we know that that's not really realistic because it just can't be. But how do we still hold on to some of that? So, you know, like it is about, understanding, you know, you can't go to the gym for an hour for a session. Okay, that's fine. But can we can we still walk it with still can we still work in you know, a few stretches or some yoga or a walk or, you know, something that kind of fills that cup that you feel this is not just me as mum, this is me as an individual. Yes. Because the loss of identity is honestly one of the greatest risk factors of postnatal depression. We know that. Yes. So we really want to be making a lot of room and spaciousness to understand that this transition has a lot to do with us. I think there is a big element of mums being taken away from the equation of mum and bub post birth. Everything is about baby, you know, we're meeting all the baby's needs, all the appointments about baby. Everything, all our visitors are like, oh, how's baby, how's baby going? But we actually intrinsically cannot talk about baby without talking about mom. And we need to bring mom back into that equation in a really big way. And that's a big part of my So when you're working with the women, how Yeah, I mean, it's definitely obviously an individual kind of issue for all of us because we, our communities can be really well meaning, but they can have, you know, they can have some, kind of impactful things to say or do that, you know, that puts mom on a bit of a back foot. But I think, you know, I think we're also not very good at boundaries these days. So permission is one thing that I think we're not great at, although we ask too much of, but also boundaries, you know, getting really clear about What do I feel comfortable with? What don't I? And how do I actually have those conversations? And that's actually another big piece of my work as well is sitting down and saying, this is actually your sacred space to be. a mother, and this is the time for your bonding and connection with your baby, for your recovery, for, you know, to really think about what each of you needs. And we're going to try and, you know, I guess as much as possible, block out all of that noise, that societal kind of expectations, those checklists, those, you Yeah, all the shoulds. Fark the shoulds. That's it. So, yeah, it definitely is about actually sitting down with and getting really clear about your values, about what you're comfortable with and what you're not. And actually, yeah, putting in those boundaries with people that we love and care about. And you can do that in a really kind, nurturing, loving way. But Yeah, I love that. I mean, there's so much richness in it because I can see that when you have the catalyst for that information early on in your parenting career or journey, shall we say, or identity even, it can have a really profound impact on how things go forward and certainly advocating for your children in that space. And one of the things that Miguel and I have I guess benefited from is the decision to change the kids' education, which then was the ultimate advocacy because it was against the tide of what everyone else was doing in the majority. But the birth thing was interesting because I was still being the old me, so I reflect on that. I'm on the eve of turning 49 and my beautiful soul sisters in my women's circle are planning my birthday. I'm still unpacking resistance of receiving a birthday celebration, and I find that a really interesting thing to experience when my eldest is like 16, and when I think about in the sliding doors moment, if I had been in that space of receiving in the postpartum period and really saying, you know what? this is what I need as an individual. I've just done an extraordinary thing, like I grew a microscopic cell into a whole human that has an opinion. So, like, literally, you know, I'm a version of a god or a goddess here. It's an extraordinary thing, right? And so, and then we kind of go, oh, no, it's cool, I got everything. So, what, like, part of my desire for women is to witness that these shifts that you make now because you've got an excuse and permission to receive will have a massive ripple effect on how your relationships go into the future and how you advocate for your kids and how you advocate for yourself and all the boundaries you're talking about. And so that's the kind of stuff that I just want to say to people, you don't get It's not just that. It's everything in terms of how you approach life. We have this really easy way to receive because you have an excuse, given you're recovering, to receive things, so we can do things like we can accept a meal train. we can accept a cleaner, we can have a postpartum doula who literally just holds space for us whilst we go through the recovery, and we don't even need to wait until there's a mental health crisis. And I think the work that you've done, women do in this space is so important, but it's also still a little bit reactionary because the penny hasn't dropped in the collective consciousness that this doesn't need to be an offence, it can be a defence, it can be a proactive move that we have that will pay you dividends 20 years down the track where you just receive a birthday celebration from some women you love and you go, sure, I'm worthy of all that. How do we shunt the collective consciousness? Because it seems to me that the way society is set up is that we all wait for crisis until we make a change, whether that's for us personally or for one of our loved ones, and then we go, oh, we're going to do it differently. What are some of the ways that you feel would shift Yeah, look, I think this is actually a big reason why I started Nurturing Connections with Jen, because coming from a social work background, and being within the systems is very reactionary. And it's something that I have tried to come up against so much in my career of You know, we are the ambulance at the bottom of the cliff and we're not, you know, we're not actually at the top of the cliff giving the education and the awareness that needs to be there so that people don't jump off, metaphorically. No, I mean, so right, because some people will fly, but without instruction, they'll plummet. That's right. People need a framework, even if the framework is listening to their own inner wisdom. I really appreciate that because it's a witnessing of not being there just for the aftermath. What you're saying, I think, is probably the crux of how we're going to shift society or awaken society is that we need more nurturing connections with Gen. essentially, because then the weight goes that The tide swings that way. Yeah, for sure. And I guess that's why I'm saying, you know, in the learning and growing of, you know, I've sort of said I'm post-birth and all this kind of rhetoric. But what I'm actually really starting to feel in my heart is that those conversations really need to be had much earlier on. You know, we have these antenatal classes, and we have these educational classes done by the hospitals and all these things, but I've just done them myself. And they're very informative in some areas. But there's this huge space that needs to be filled, I believe, and I think is really vital to our well-being and our mental health. And as you said, the ripple effect for the rest of our lives is We actually, you know, where's the inner work? Where do we stop and actually reflect on ourselves and what's going on within us emotionally and mentally through that journey? Because that's going to actually set us up, you know, when Bubs comes home and there is those really hard times of being exhausted and sleep deprived and all the rest of it is how, you know, we actually have some of those tools of emotional regulation, say, or we have some of those tools of reflecting and understanding, okay, this is sort of a challenge point for me, but this is something that I've actually looked at, worked on, even before Bubs gets there. You know, we, of course, we want to capture the people that, you know, haven't been able to get to that space yet. And of course that can still be done, but the later and later that that gets done, you know, the trickier and trickier it kind of becomes because we've got this added complexity of this little being that we love and adore and want the best for. But in that love and adoration, a lot of what we do is completely lose ourselves, right? So we may put ourselves in the back burner and. I think the biggest message, one of the biggest things, and I don't know how many times And the more that we try and do that, the more we're actually depriving both bubs and us. Yes. And Yes. I heard a version of that. from a guy called Jerry from Star Magic, and I just loved it. What he said was, you give from your saucer, not your cup. The analogy for me is you fit your own oxygen mask before you fit your child's on a plane. I wonder if that happens in reality because we're so conditioned to be of service. But the eloquence of giving from a saucer just always reminds me that I must fill up my own cup, and then I give from my saucer to everyone. My priority, obviously, is always my family. you know, beloveds, but I want to be able to give to everybody as well. And you're so right, you cannot give from your cup. And in fact, when we give from our cup, we don't model to anyone else how to give from the saucer. So in the aspect of radical self-responsibility and, you know, being a really good community member, you need to be a whole individual at the same time. And maybe that will be part of the shift for women who are approaching the birth of their baby, is to take some radical responsibility and say, what are some of the things I'm gonna need to do for my post-birth care? Because it's a lot, like the whole thing is a lot, plus all the hormonal changes, plus suddenly you turn into a cow, and somehow your uterus has gotta shrink back down to the size it was, and all the things, plus you gotta work on sleep deprivation, all of which is possible, but because we're trying to hang on to the old identity, it's not congruent. So it's a mismatch, isn't it? The two identities are a mismatch. So there has to be a melding instead of one Absolutely. I think, you know, one of the other big messages that I've given to so many of my clients is how would you treat someone that you love and care for? So why are we not able to give ourselves the same amount of grace that we would give our best friends, our mothers, daughters, sisters, you know, whoever, why can we not give ourselves that grace? This is the biggest transformation you will ever go through in your entire life. And, you know, I think that there is definitely that lost sense of, innate kind of knowledge and empowerment and, you know, all these beautiful, beautiful qualities, and they get taken over by these checklists. I know I keep going over this checklist, but, you know, if we actually think about what each of us needs, and especially what Bubs needs in this time, they need to be fed, clothed, kept warm, loved, you know, they don't need all of these, routines and these structures and these, you know, all of these bits and pieces that come in and create this sense of, Oh my God, I don't know what I'm doing. You do You didn't question yourself when you were growing the baby. I mean, that's what's interesting for the most part. I know that medical intervention still kicks in and there's a bunch of tests that we may or may not need. Sometimes they feel like fishing expeditions, but for the most part, you didn't question it. And, And, you know, once you felt secure in the pregnancy being viable, you know, you just go through the feels of whatever that is, you know, the symptoms and all that sort of stuff. But you don't question the fact that they're going to grow an arm or an eyebrow or a toenail, like it just occurs, doesn't it? And then we got this sense of because reflected everywhere around us is parenting, not growing humans. Then we go into the comparison, which is obviously the thief of joy. You forget your own inner knowing, but you have your own set of instructions. The other thing that's really cool is Mother Nature is out there just to confirm as well, because she's so beautiful in the way that she unfolds various things. It's a great reference for birth, but it's also a great reference for the postnatal period as well. It is, absolutely. I couldn't agree more. So that's one thing, peeps. You have your own set of instructions. You have your own innate abilities. So I encourage you to revisit that as an idea. And if it feels uncomfortable, revisit it five times a day and feel into it. Because at some stage, you'll have an experience that reminds you that that is the case, because it exists. It's not something you need to discover. It's something that you need to remember. You need to reintegrate it into your knowing so that it's in your mind when that comes, you know, it comes to that sort of challenge or whatever it might be. Yeah, go on We have so many strengths and capacities within us and it always, I just find it, funny is not the right word, but I find it funny how we forget how that those strengths and capacities could not be transitioned into this, this context. So, you know, someone that is very organized or someone that, you know, that can roll with the punches or whatever else, it's like you, that still applies here. It doesn't actually just go out the window because you're, you know, this parenting context is completely new. Yes, it's new. Yes, give yourself grace. Yes, give yourself time. But that doesn't mean that everything that you are and who you've been and who you've become and what you have within you just goes No, I mean, that's all your point of reference and you're learning. I mean, I really like when I'm feeling challenged, I really do my best just to remember that everything is unfolding perfectly for me. So there is wisdom in everything, even when it's, a discomfort or it's the opposite of what I want because I have that as a contrast, right? I'm not saying I live in airy-fairy gratitude land all the time, but in those moments of challenge, I'm like, there's got to be wisdom in here. I just got to work through the emotion of it first. Within that space then, how then do we want to proceed forward with helping women to realise this? I have some basics that I did, or I wish I did, so two things. So one thing that I started doing, I started doing after I experienced was placenta encapsulation, and it sounds completely disgusting, and it resonates only for a few people, and that's completely fine, but it was a game changer because I had a birth without it, and then I had the next three births with. And the only thing I'll say about it is I felt so good having placenta capsules that I would go and do all the busy things. So I stayed with that identity of the doing. And so now with my wisdom, I would do that differently. I'd feel good. And I say that to people, feel good lying down. You don't have to feel good and do stuff. Just feel good and lie down. So that's one thing. Another thing I would willingly receive is I would receive being discharged or released from the parenting duty even if it's just to go stand on the sand at the beach listening to the waves, or go be in nature and immerse myself in trees. Basically recalibrate my nervous system in alignment with nature and get some grounding. I would do that. And you can do that for 15 minutes. I mean, that would be plenty to recalibrate. And then the other thing I would do is, I noticed with my first, because I was sleep deprived, I had this real need for sugar and so of course I turned into a complete sugar whore and oh God, I'd get up with him and I'd breastfeed at night at like 2 o'clock in the morning. I'd set myself up in front of the TV and I'd have some chocolate next to me and a cup of tea and I'd breastfeed and it was this whole, you know. whole kind of production. It was just nuts. And by number two, I worked out, oh, just chuck the baby next to you, you co-sleep, they feed, and it's done, right? And you actually sleep well. But what would I do? I would have some nourishing foods. I'd up my magnesium. I'd look for better choices because I realized, obviously, sugar was down-regulating me and making me more tired. There are some really basic things that I just kind of take for granted now that I would want to bring in. And I would definitely get a cleaner. Oh my God, I would get a cleaner. That's the other thing I would do. Or someone to come hold the baby, something like that. Or make me food, make meals. Oh, all right. What are some practical things that you suggest for women? What can they take Yeah. I mean, I think everything that you're talking about, it's really interesting that you're saying you sort of take it for granted, but. You know, when we, when we talk about strategies, I don't like the term as much, but, you know, it's actually so much more simple than we, you know, than we, than we think or that we overcomplicate these things. You know, we don't live in gratitude land all the time, airy fairy, but gratitude is so, so powerful, you know, even waking up in the morning and just thinking of a couple of things that you're, grateful for very first thing in the morning, just really sets your nervous system and your mind up into that space of, well, this is kind of abundance and joy and love. rather than, oh, I'm going to think about all the difficult things for the day, you know? So, you know, there are these things I, a lot of my clients, I get to just, even if it's really difficult for them, because for some people it can be to start just jotting down just one thing that you think you've done really well that day, or that, you know, you've had that moment of connection and joy with Barb. And then the next day, can you do two? And the next day, can you do three? Because what we do a lot of the time is we, and I think our brains are unfortunately a bit wide like this, but we focus on the negative, right? So we focus on, well, I didn't get that quite right. And Bob was crying for this long and I didn't get my laundry done or whatever it was. But we also don't give ourselves or highlight for ourselves. the amazing ways that we're actually meeting all of Bob's needs and that we're caring for ourselves and that we're providing this incredible role as a mother within our family system. And the other thing that I would say is you were saying before you would check out of that parenting role as much as possible. It's not, it's always been said for a reason. you know, it takes a village and it's supposed to take a village. And this idea of isolation and this societal kind of toxic independence, I'm not sure where this has come from. But that's, you know, that's not how we were meant to raise babies and children. And, you know, we are innately wired for connection. So, it's okay to give your baby to someone for 10 minutes to go and, you know, to go and do something because you're actually giving that baby more than if you held on to the egoic kind of, I need to do it all by myself, you know, way of thinking. So my, my two biggest things is your village, be okay with your village, be okay with knowing that you're actually doing the best that you can possibly do for that baby by having a village. And let's simplify, simplify, simplify, simplify. You know, what does baby actually need as opposed to all of the society kind of social media pressures of, you know, consumerism and all, it needs this wake time and it needs this toy and it needs this. And it's like, no, it really doesn't. The way that babies, make their neural pathways is your face, is facial expressions, is connection to you, to their primary attachment figure. And again and again, evidence actually continually backs this, but it's just not what's out there in the media, Well, it doesn't sell very well, unfortunately, so you can't make a dollar off it. But yeah, absolutely. And look, I want to close on essentially those sentiments, because if you're someone who needs to give yourself permission like I do at 49 to receive a birthday circle, then use the excuse of this will be in your baby's highest good, even if you can't make it okay for your highest good. And also that you have permission to get your village assembled because people do want to be of service. That's how we're great community members, you know, and we fill ourselves up as individuals. Jen, thank you so much for sharing your wisdom. This is a very powerful conversation and may it have ripple effects through our community as women continue to perfect the Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it. I just wanted to put out there that at the moment, obviously 37 weeks pregnant, I'm having my own little journey at the moment. So in terms of, individual services, you know, I will be offering home visits and kind of more of that really personalized support and things once I get myself through my postpartum recovery and take that time to really honor that transition for myself. But in the meantime, I'm absolutely up for, you know, give me a call. We can have a chat. I'm happy to do some telehealth or some phone calls. I'm feeling really good at the moment. So I'm really, really grateful and blessed for that. And if there's any way that I can support anyone out there through this time, then I am. That's what You heard it there, folks. So spread the word, Nurturing Connections with Jen. She's available. She's an amazing support and she'll be back. So stay well, beautiful Quanti-folks. We'll Beautiful, Quanti-folks. 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