Living Consciously; Pt 2

What if living consciously isn’t about fixing yourself—but finally listening to the you that never needed fixing?

In this two-part episode, QuantiMama’s Faark The Shoulds welcomes the wildly wonderful Jillian Rumble-Young from Rainbow OMG. Jillian is a biodynamic farmer, homeschooling mama, musician, plant whisperer, and balm maker extraordinaire—and if she had a business card, it would probably be compostable and smell like calendula.

Together, Jillian and QuantiMama Jodi dive into the fertile terrain of conscious living—not the kind you hashtag, but the kind that’s felt in your bones. Think: talking to your plants, bleeding into the soil, raising kids who can read lunar cycles better than textbooks, and dismantling the factory settings of modern life one seedling, salve, and soul truth at a time.

What if the land knows you by name?
What if parenting is less “expert advice” and more “deep listening, occasional snacks, and a good birth chart”?
What if pruning your trees is also about pruning your life?

This convo is equal parts reverent and disruptive, with new perspectives, deep remembering, and a few epic mic drops. It’s for anyone who suspects their houseplants are judging them—and might be right. BUT, probs not since plants are simply love with leaves.

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Transcript

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I'm like, well, you're not going anywhere if you're not learning. You know, like life is a learning journey. You never stop learning. You don't graduate year 12 and just like, that's enough. And you know, I did that for a while and it stagnated me and I got really sick and really numb and really depressed. And it was like, only when I start to find the things that brought me joy and interest, like when you find something that naturally interests you, there is an inertia. like no other, where you will stay up all hours of the night researching, looking, searching for answers, because ultimately you're searching for your truth, you know, and the things that feel right for you. And I think that's the same with our children, is we don't need to force them into things, they're going to find things that they just naturally want to do, you know? They'll spend hours working in the wood shop, they'll spend hours welding sculptures or whatever, you know? It's just giving the allowance for that and the openness to Oh, I completely agree with you. I mean, I think that in our household, we don't use the G-O-D word. I think that resonates for some and not for others. But the idea that our children are whole and here to not even break everything down, I think the system's breaking itself down, but they are here to create the new and they've come in with that set of instructions. Like I just, yeah, I think the idea that they are the complete package from the universal field and even more impervious to the enslavement that we've been programmed with, that's why we're It's funny because I know that, well, you chose to free birth, I kind of accidentally free births um my last one because the midwife didn't make it and it was stop, start, stop, start. But inherent in that was an absolute trust in my own body and I think like some of us I feel like for you, you're coming in with already knowing that I learned it through experiences and so that last birth I was like holy smokes like I got this worked out you know and then that kid our four is so much the complete package and got so much of his own mindset that I can't deny it's nothing to do with anything I'm doing like he just is himself right and yeah I think that's kind of what you're saying with that children from God they really Yeah, absolutely. They don't need any external validation. They are so complete and certain and whole in themselves that it's just like, why would I even bother looking outside? And it's so beautiful to witness as a parent. And it's so funny, I remember going to a homeschool meetup, and I'm just radically authentically myself. I always say I was born a rebel, and that's why my dad named me Jillian Rumble, Rumble the Rebel, because I was born upside down and backwards. And so I feel like that's how my consciousness developed, and it's so funny, because I always just speak my truth. And I was at a homeschool meetup, and one of the moms just looked at me, and she goes, So were you like just born awake or did you just learn this? Yeah, and I was kind of like, well, kind of in both. Yeah, definitely. Like, I was born remembering things from past lives that, you know, that made my religious mother terribly uncomfortable. And as much as she tried to bash that out of me with religious training, it just didn't feel right. You know, we all have to find our own way to source. And I always say, like, my mission statement in life is I am here for fun joy and beauty. And that's it. It's that that complicated and that simple, you know. And so, yeah, like I just I knew right from the get go that I was just going to free birth my babies. And my first one, I got to that transition stage of birth and I just, you know, was 24 hours in and I, it was just me and my husband because everyone thought I was insane for not going the medical system. And I just didn't really know what was happening. Like you're so out of your, your conscious mind. Um, and then I ended up having a hospital birth with him and absolutely getting butchered and traumatized, and I just made the very conscious decision, because I knew my daughter was coming at some point, I had already met her in my dreams, that it was just like, I trust my body. I trust my body, I trust this process. I mean, I've one of these radical people that have left my body multiple times and, you know, there's no fear of going beyond. But it's so amazing to see in birth that there is wisdom that the body knows that the mind just can't comprehend. And I think that's what spooks so many people out is they're like, but what if this? And what if that? And what if I'm not in control? And it's like, honey, just get prepared. You are not in control of this. Your body is going to do what it needs to do. And what really encouraged me is I heard a doctor talking about a woman who was in a coma for like, I don't even know how many years. I think it was like something like 11 years. And she had a baby while she was in a coma and her body still birthed it naturally. And it was just like, that is freaking phenomenal. You know, so there was, I've just had this unwavering trust. And that's, I think ultimately what birth is, is it's a woman's greatest initiation into her full power. into her full sovereignty, and she goes, I know what it took to get this baby here, and I'm not going to let anybody gaslight me or tell me what I need to do. Like, you know, as if I'm not qualified to guide this child in I mean, I think actually, and I think Birth by Design has been industrialized for that very reason. It's not, know that we're told it's for safer reasons and so forth and it always has a place that you know that medical care obviously I came from a medical field but I still think the the intention is very much so women aren't aware of their power because when you do birth on your terms and you are in communication with your baby in that labor land that you go to you know where you leave your body to do what it needs to do but you are in communication with your baby's soul or as you were saying going getting the baby's soul um that that makes you real nothing's the same after that it can't be because you've glimpsed what's possible and we realize that the rest of it is you know for someone else's convenience or amusement goodness No, you know, and, you know, like there's so many ancient traditions and like a lot of like what we're talking about with moon cycles and then now moving into birth and planting, you know, lotus birth and planting the baby's placenta. These aren't new age ideas. These are ancient traditions that tie the baby's spirit to the land so the land knows, hey, this is who's walking on me. I know your energetic imprint. I'm going to look after you, you know. Yeah, it's, you know, and then that just carries forward into the radical responsibility, like why would I let somebody else instill their values in my children before I get to instill my beliefs and values in my children? And you really have to weigh up the, you know, what's more important, going along to get along or raising somebody who's going to be there for you for the rest of your life and look after you and who has innate trust and you know, open communication with you. Like, I just see so many youth acting out of resentment and fear and being pissed off that they were forced through a system that just didn't nurture or nourish them. And, you know, nobody's going to understand your children better than you. Nobody. Like, and there's so many, you know, the whole point of homeschooling is to observe your child, look at what their natural interests are, and just nurture that. You know, there doesn't have to be like taking the course and bringing it into the home, the course curriculum. I mean, that works for some people, but like, you know, my son has autism and his modus operandi is ecstatic joy. And if it's not bringing him ecstatic joy, It's like trying to wrangle a bull through a doorway. It's just like, oh my God, I'm fighting a losing battle, you know? But when I can nurture, like, okay, you know, I've looked at your birth chart and your divine blueprint. So like one thing we can really do to understand our children's kind of consciousness and the patterns that affect how their emotional behaviors are, is just understanding their divine blueprints through things like reading their astrology chart or getting it read by somebody. We've got human design, we've got tools like numerology, like understanding their birth date and how that plays out in their life path, in their karmic path, in the lessons they're here to learn. where they can be of gift and of service to the world and just really understanding those and like those are things tools that I've utilized for my own family and even my husband looks at me and he's like that is incredible that you can get all of that from looking at the numbers in my birth chart like Because if I had known this information when I was younger, like, you know, my life would have been radically different. And especially if my parents understood this. So, you know, like not being afraid to look outside the box and go, how can I better understand you know. I have a sneaking suspicion that if more parents did that say that was like a you know a birth present for a baby being born. I do that. Yeah well. I make birth charts. Well that's a beautiful thing because I think that that informed parenting it we're always looking for some kind of help because we are community focused aren't we in terms of the the village raising the baby but the problem is we've created our village through a bunch of so-called experts that then give advice that don't encourage us to check whether that feels like a truth for us. Like, you know, the troll crying and things like that. There might be some people that resonate with that, but I would imagine you know almost 100% of new mothers it would not resonate with to leave their baby crying. So that's an example where we've created a community for raising these children but we're going to almost false prophets and to books that don't resonate and we're not looking at the child and we're certainly not checking what in what seems like a truth for us what seems right for us and you know what you're talking about again is not about putting kids into boxes or labels but it's actually about using tools that can inform us and create intelligence about how we approach them and like human design has been fantastic for us. I don't, I've only gone superficially so far with the kids, but created an awareness about where their superpowers are and why certain things land for them and some things don't. So it changes then how I parent, I create that agility in terms of, you know, how I interact with them from that standpoint. It's very Yeah, and that's right, that's why I do numerology charts for babies that are born, and I really encourage parents to look at that, because it's like, look, you've birthed this human, and they have some very strong energy in terms of placements in their chart, and you really just want to understand how can I best nurture them and grow that, and without them growing up resenting you for forcing them through system they didn't want to do. And I think that like, I have this thing where I'm like, truth is objective, because it's different for everybody. And it's really just muscle testing and just feeling, does this feel true in my body? Because I know when there's been moments where I've been, you know, confronted with something that's like, It just doesn't feel right. I know that they're all saying like, oh yeah, you should do this or do that, but I'm like, in my being of beings, I know I am not doing that. Like that makes me feel sick to my stomach with the thought of doing that to my child or to myself or to somebody else, you know, like, and it's just going like, how does this make me feel? And that's part of, you know, what's been stripped out of the education system is that bodily wisdom. to understand, does this feel true for me? And really taking time to contemplate ideas rather than being forced Well, the system is intentionally set up so that there's no spaciousness for that, because it wouldn't work for the collective. You can't have a whole bunch of people who are all individuals all doing the same thing if we actually listened to what that individual was feeling. When you, I think, parent from that place of getting your child to be aware of that, what that does as a confirmation as a parent, it just is so affirming, I think, because as you're saying, you're parenting in a way that perhaps you would have liked to have been parented as well. And so you can feel the generational crack just starting to dissipate because you stop it at this generation, right? You know, it was so beautiful witnessing that in the last birth that I partook in. It was just this father holding his beautiful newborn son, a good 10-pounder, and he just looked at this precious, fresh baby, right, like just out of mom, and he goes, I don't know how long this intergenerational abuse has been going, But the buck stops here, and you're just looking at this pure child, and you never imagine about why you would ever be so angry as to hit it. And again, that's just old programs falling away. And as those fall away, we're finding new ways to parent our children, and just creating little things that just really help. I have this little thing here where we have the AAA rule. And it's just acknowledging what's happening, appreciating what we have and what we've learned, and allowing the course to run its path. So acknowledgement, appreciation, and allowance. And that's a really beautiful gift to give your children. And I think when we can trust our children, from a young age to do things, it builds that trust for life, because then it's like, I know when he's a teenager, I don't need to worry about him going out and doing too many stupid things. They're gonna experiment, but at the same time, it's like you have that trust that I know you know what's right for you, and I know you know that if it doesn't feel right in your body, you won't do it. you Yeah and that takes like a level of surrender because I know that my my kids now span almost 17 to 9 and I actually use that in my language with them and I say I trust you, like you have to make the decision and I'm not saying that I prepared them completely for whatever decisions they're going to go and make but I also have to trust that their innate wisdom will guide them and sometimes their innate wisdom is going to guide them to an experience that has creates a few bumps and bruises but that's their right as well to live their life in that manner. know I think that we kind of can sometimes get caught up from this new age parenting point of view of protecting them at any cost but they need to know their truth and on a soul level they you know have a set of things that they've come into experience maybe they've had the perfect existence previously and they're up for a few bumps and bruises this time around and part of that is holding that space for them to do that um relatively safely. I don't want my kids to get hurt, but I do want them to experience life. Otherwise, what are Yeah, and you know, and I think that's something that, another thing that's been stripped, you know, the system was created to make factory workers, not an evolved human consciousness. And, you know, I really feel like that's what happens kind of in their teenage years, is that they start to feel the the hero's journey, the call to adventure. And that, and you can't say like, oh no, don't do that, because even if you say it, they're gonna do it anyways. Because there's this thing of like, yeah, there's wisdom of the elders, but you have to, you have to be of a certain consciousness to acknowledge the wisdom of the elders first. So there's always going to be this call to adventure. Do you want to go out in the world and try things and look, you learn from them, you know, you don't, you don't repeat the same mistake twice, hopefully. And you know, and it's the hero's journey is the call to adventure and the departure of like leaving home or going out on your own. And then you're faced with obstacles and challenges and confrontations and it's learning. to move through those, that is your initiation. It's like, how do you cope with those things? And sometimes it's like an ego death and a rebirth, you know? And then the third part of the hero's journey is the return back home where you share that wisdom with the people in your community and you share that. And I think that, you know, like we need to start integrating that back into our collective consciousness is that we're all here to learn something. And ultimately at the end of the day, it's compassion for all things and beings. Like, you know, I think that's the hardest part for me is I've tried to wake up so many people, but you just have to come to this humble place of like, everyone is exactly where they need to be. And whether it's something traumatic that wakes them up or it's a simple conversation, you know, everyone is where they need to be and That's exactly right. And to insert our wish upon that would not be in harmony with what nature would intend anyway. You know, I mean, I think they're definitely always going to be dominant plants in your backyard, but they don't ever assert themselves to the point where nothing else can flourish in that space. So there has to be a bit of give and take and a bit of humility and a bit of grace. And I actually think that we can hold a vibration that's far more powerful than anything we're going to say Yeah, that's right. And like, you know, we've moved from the age of Pisces, which is really about top down structure and structure and order and the way things have always been done. And we've moved into this age of Aquarius, where now our feelings and our energy field, like, you know, when you come in contact with someone who's just slimy, you're like, you get me out of here. Yeah. You know, you can sense people's intentions. And I think that's the thing about like children that are coming in with autism is just, and all of these other different neurological things is that they're so hypersensitized that they will match whatever frequency they're in. And sometimes that can be overwhelming from an external point of view, like, oh, my God, my kid's having a complete meltdown. And I can't control it. Um, but you know, it's just They're so sensitive that it's a beautiful gift. Music moves through them in a different way. Energy moves through them in a different way. It's a superpower to be that sensitive. if you're that sensitive do you really want to be exposing yourself to things that are toxic people toxic shows toxic thoughts you know it's really that upgrade and i think that where we're at in in the world is that you know what i've learned from cooking medicine all these years is that you have to boil off the impurities to get the pure, to get the stabilization, to get the purity. Because if there's any stagnant water or sludge at the bottom of the pot, that's going to cause mold and fungus issues later on. You know, I feel like whenever we go through these intense times of change, there's just this high boiling point of like, you know, yes, things are intense, but we're boiling off that which does not serve us or burning off that which does not serve us. And, you know, collectively, that's really just what we're going through right now is the boiling off of the impurities. just knowing that there's a pure process that's alchemizing right now. And that's beautiful. And that starts with being at home and connecting with your children and connecting with the land and learning the wisdom of like, you know, the leaves falling off the tree is just like, okay, the tree's dying back for winter, but it's not the end of the cycle. You know, those dead leaves are going to create fertility for the next cycle. And isn't that a beautiful thing to know that there's something so much more than just present moment that we're going through you know there's innate wisdom that transcends through nature into humans into consciousness and just trusting that process is Absolutely and we don't go chopping the tree down when it's lost all its leaves anyway so you know no there's an appreciation and a grace that happens with nature around us we just don't extend it to ourselves often and that's you know I think one of the things that we're learning to do is just to take a breath and go, okay, what's the long view here? And I love the idea of burning off the impurities because that is so true. That is what it feels like is happening and it's deeply uncomfortable, but it's meant to you know, create an awareness in the greater community that there is a shift happening and it needs to happen. And that discomfort is purposeful. I mean, it's very much like birth. I know that. I was just going to say, it sounds exactly like the birth, you know. I mean, I guess that's why it's in there. But yeah, I mean, no, it's funny because I made the conscious choice before we had our first to not regard, um, the you know labour symptoms and signs to be pain it was just feedback of the body doing workload and it shifted my experience so dramatically that other people don't seem to choose to have access to that thought flow but I'm like it's not painful it just it just is a feeling you know and it it warrants attention because it's probably the single biggest thing you'll ever do in your life. Like I'm sure you could probably you know climb some mountains and do some other things but growing a new human and then bringing them earth side is like probably the coolest thing that you can do out there and so we need to pay attention to that, we need to be present, we need to have reverence, we need to surrender, we need to have trust And we need Yeah. And you know, you're not just birthing a human, you're birthing a whole cosmos. Like that's the other thing is that like, you know, the elements of nature can be found in our hands. Like there's water, earth, fire, um, air, ether, you know? And, and so, and, and also like, the thumb is Mars, the index finger is Jupiter, you've got Saturn, Mercury, like you've, you have the cosmos inside you. And so you're not just birthing a baby, you're birthing an entire cosmos. Like, that's kind of phenomenal, if you ask me. And, you know, it's, it's, um, I'm constantly learning. It's funny what you were saying about burning off the impurities and when the tree's dead, you don't just cut it down because every time I prune my trees over winter, they get their annual haircut and I'm cutting off the dead branches. As I'm cutting off the dead branches, I think, what am I cutting out of my life that's no longer serving me? And I'm just very conscious about the way I, as I'm pruning my trees, I think about like, what are the dead branches that I can prune out of my own life that are going to stimulate further growth? Like, okay, that's just a distraction. That's not propelling me forward on my growth and my path and my spiritual journey. So I can just kindly cut that branch off or cut that relationship or you know, just applying the laws and the rules of nature and the cycles of nature to my own personal journey and growth and family. Yeah, it's just, I'm always learning. And that's the beautiful thing is somebody once said to me like, oh, you got to stop learning and start earning. And I almost choked when I heard that. And I was like, okay, I yeah yeah i'm like well you're not going anywhere if you're not learning um you know like life is a learning journey you never stop learning you don't graduate year 12 and just like that's enough and you know i did that for a while and it stagnated me and i got really sick and really numb and really depressed and it was like only when i start to find the things that brought me joy and interest like when you find something that naturally interests you there is an inertia Like no other where you will stay up all hours of the night researching looking searching for answers because ultimately you're searching for your your truth. You know and the things that feel right for you and I think that's the same with our children is we don't need to force. them into things, they're going to find things that they just naturally want to do, you know? They'll spend hours working in the wood shop, they'll spend hours welding sculptures or whatever, you know? It's just giving the allowance for that and the openness to just let them go on their own journey and Yeah, it's really, it's beautiful and powerful. It's It's so true. I mean, in fact, like I've talked about this before, wherein we don't ever question a toddler and their love of learning and the way they go and explore something until they're sort of sated to the point where they've gone, reached a point where I need to do integration or do something different but we suddenly then don't apply that to our kids but we and even ourselves and that's exactly right that limiting idea that we need to learn through institutions and sometimes we do get really great information from you know an organized course or an education institution there's definitely the case there. I was very grateful to learn ambulance you know in a classroom and then go and apply it on the road rather than the other way around. But then we can have a conversation like we're having right now and I mean I'm gonna need a lie down just to integrate everything that you've said because there's just so much wisdom in there the idea of that complete embodiment of conscious living where you are physically doing an action like pruning a tree and then thinking I'm using this as an energetic expression to make changes in my life that are healthy for me and creating even that permission around that as well and this yeah I'm gonna go back and listen to this multiple times too because it's just So beautiful. I have loved this conversation. Do you have any thoughts or wisdom you want to share with us? You know, I think the most important thing for anyone, wherever you are on your journey, is just your children in the first seven years of their life are in theta state and that means they're in hypnosis and they're just watching and recording and repeating. And ultimately what you do in front of them on a daily basis programs who and how they function in the world. And so if you can show them what a healthy relationship looks like, if you can show them, you know, what fun looks like, what joy looks like, what beauty looks like, and just in your daily actions, you know, I think that you have the ability to change the world just by being in your own space. But I think the most important thing is just to be a living embodiment of what fearless living looks like. That is the most important thing. If you take one thing away, how can I be an embodiment of fearless living for my children? And every decision you make, ask yourself, is this coming from love or is this coming from fear? and catch yourself, be humble enough to catch yourself and really just go, okay, I feel some vulnerability here, I feel some anxiousness, I know that the antidote is love, and how do I go about acting this and being this love in the world that I need to see and that my child needs to see right now? Is it taking out my sword of truth and standing up for them? Is it taking radical responsibility and keeping my baby bird close under my wing? Yeah, just how can you be a living embodiment for fearless living? And try your best to do it in a gracious way. And I know graciousness isn't easy. But yeah, I I've got alarms going off and everything. Life is starting to come back into my field and I'm making my fearless living. How am I going to do that? I've had a kid appear Yeah, we must be, we must be ready to complete this conversation, but fearless living in a conscious way. Jill, thank you so much for your time. As I said, I think that there's just a ridiculous amount of wisdom that was poured into this conversation. I'm so grateful for your generosity and just for the sparkle that is you. Thank you for coming into my life. Yeah, I was going to say at the beginning, if anyone's listening, just make sure you have a pen and paper on hand because you might need to pause and rewind this episode a couple of times. There's quite a few, you know, cosmic downloads that come through. So, yeah, thank you for the honour and the joy of being here. And it was just an absolute joy to share whatever Yes, always gold. Thanks, Quanti-folks. Until next time, stay well, stay beautiful. Hey Quantifolks, I've said it before and I'll say it again, birth is transformational. And it can be transformational in the right way and in the not so right way. So how do we arm ourselves to be really prepared for this incredible experience? 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