How to Stop Playing It Small and Live the Life You Actually Want

A Wildly Nourished Life. 

What if the most radical thing you could do was actually live the life you were meant to live; your full potential?

In this episode of Faark The Shoulds, QuantiMama Jodi sits down with Miek Paulus - the powerhouse behind Ket Baker on the Bellarine Peninsula - for a conversation about obligation, energy, the inner critic, and what it actually means to show up fully to your one wild and precious life.

Miek is ten years into building something she deeply believes in, and the way she talks about it - flour up to her elbows, business calls happening simultaneously, a non-negotiable standard for quality - is less a business story and more a life philosophy. This episode is for the humans who feel the fire but keep dimming it. For the parents who sense what they're capable of and keep talking themselves out of it. For anyone who's wondered whether the grass is actually greener on the other side, or just looks that way from a safe distance.

INSIDE THE CONVO

 • why "do what you need to do and it will be right" is the only bumper sticker worth having

 • the deathbed question that reframes every moment of playing it small • how to handle the inner critic without trying to magic it away

 • why the grass actually IS greener when you push through - and not when you flee

 • building an empire in the divine feminine and why birth has something to say about that

 • the difference between having the drive and having the wish

There's a thread running through this conversation about obligation - not obligation as burden, but obligation as energy source. The thing you owe yourself and the world that, when you lean into it, gives you more than it takes. The energy Miek invests in the details at Ket Baker - 100% sourdough bakery, infamous for its 5-day-in-the-making pastries - the lamination of a croissant, the mood in the kitchen - and why that investment always comes back. It's a reframe worth sitting with for anyone preparing for something big. Including birth.

Fair warning: this one might make you want to book a trip to the Bellarine Peninsula, eat mouth-watering sourdough pastries, and then go do the thing you've been putting off. 

As always, (dough) balls and all.

Transcript

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Masculinity and femininity anymore, it's just, okay, they, they want to do it and they're not doing it.

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Well then, something is in their way, and it's usually themselves.

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Yeah.

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It's just their narrative.

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"Oh, I'm too afraid to do it on my own."

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Okay, but if you've got that realization to, that you're too afraid to do it on your own, then challenge yourself- Mm

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and set yourse-self above it.

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Mm-hmm.

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And there comes the, the, the, the obligation in life again.

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Yeah.

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Because if you don't do that-

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what are you gonna do at your deathbed?

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Mm.

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My grandma was too scared to go into, um-

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Hello, and welcome to another episode of Fark the Shoulds podcast.

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I am Jodi from Quantum Mama, and I am delighted, delighted to be having this conversation today with one of my favorite people.

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I would love to introduce you to Meek Paulus of Ket Baker, mainly because she's just a superstar, but also because she makes really delicious things as well.

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Meek, welcome to Fark the Shoulds.

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Thank you.

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Thank you, neighbor.

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Yeah.

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So we do know each other, and I mean, I just, you know, I love having good chats with people.

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Well, why do we know each other so well, Jodi?

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Well, maybe because you very kindly paid me for a little while while I did a terrible job looking after stuff at Ket.

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She was excellent.

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She was excellent.

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There we go.

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Consider that a, um, referral.

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Um, I'm gonna put it on my CV.

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Yes.

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Um, Meek, uh- It'll be gold

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that's right.

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As I said to you, I love conversations that just

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I mean, we have these conversations anyway.

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We're just recording it.

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So today, I want to get inside your head because I do think you are a should farker, as I would say.

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So you call things what need to be called.

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You get the job done.

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You have an attitude of par excellence, which is well known, I think why people know the Ket Baker name, and it's so wildly popular.

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Um, but you also do that whilst building the empire and staying in your divine feminine, which is this space of, like, luscious creativity.

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So that's

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I wanna go there today.

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All right, let's go there.

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All right, cool.

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Let's go there.

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Let's go there.

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So- I think, I think

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Oh, I'm gonna cut you.

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Go on.

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I think if, um, I think if all of our conversations would be, all of the conversations we've had in the past and in the future would be taped- Mm

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I think that would be worth a gazillion dollars.

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Oh, we could do that.

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No probs.

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It's- We could-

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too juicy.

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I know.

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Well, because we always go there, right?

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Like, and I, I mean, I treat it like having a good coffee.

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I won't drink shit coffee- Right

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just in case I get hit by a bus, and the last coffee I have is-

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you know, a terrible one.

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It'll be my last thought going- You're such an Aussie.

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Well, it's the same thing with the conversations.

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We're gonna have a great conversation- Mm

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'cause it might be our last one.

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Mm, yeah.

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Uh, cheers to it not being.

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Cheers.

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Cheers to that.

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Cheers to that.

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On our good tea.

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A good tea.

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With good tea.

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Yeah, it is good tea, I promise.

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It's good.

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So, so Ket, for people that don't know about it, and it's outrageous if they don't, as you know.

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It's based on the Bellarine Peninsula, and you've been operating for around 10 years.

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Just had the 10-year anniversary, which is a beautiful thing.

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So it started with babes on the hips and just doing the hard yards and going to markets, but always maintaining quality, and that was always my observation when I was, you know, seeing the inner workings of Ket, was you didn't just kinda put something out there and go, "Oh, it'll be right."

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It was like every single day you are paying attention to what is going out.

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I, I don't know if it's an Aussie thing, but it can feel like, "Oh, wow, she's pretty anal about stuff," right?

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But in fact, n- now I've, view life from the prism of what does that say about the energy that's being invested?

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The energy that gets invested into even the details around the sourdough pastries that go out every day, the sourdough breads that go out, all the other things that Ket does, there is such a high investment of energy and a commitment to bringing that excellence out to the community.

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Like, you wanna serve the community.

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Firstly, how does that go day to day?

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Like, is that exhausting?

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Because for people not doing it, it must sound bloody exhausting.

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They must just think, "I'd just rather put on Netflix- Mm

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hot cup of tea, and just sign off."

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Boring.

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I thought you might say that.

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Right, so I mean, your, I know your days are big.

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They're big.

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You're just on, and you start early, and then you finish late, and there is a deep commitment to what you do.

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But it's like I see you apply energy equally to the lamination of a croissant to the next big thing at Ket.

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Mm, that's actually true.

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Yeah.

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I can go into the bakery and make a dough.

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And then 5 minutes later I will have a, some kind of business call with flour up until h- here- Yeah

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so nobody sees it.

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Around the waistline.

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'Cause it's a fun thing.

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Uh, mind you, I do not actually do any hands-on work anymore.

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Um, that took me a while to just peace myself- Mm

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with it, but because that was a lot in that intro, first of all, my dad's-You used to always say to me, "If you do something, you do it right."

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And- But people often stop there

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there's a yin and yang- They do it right, and they don't do anything further.

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Like, got it right.

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Well, they don't

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Or people

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No, there's a lot of people that half-ass shit.

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Or they, they then, well, yeah, you know, define right, right?

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You know, some people think right is, you know, like a half-assed pastry, pastry.

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Mm.

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But, um, um, yeah, I don't know.

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Um, I do- How do you maintain the energy for it?

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So I don't have a, I don't have a reference point.

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My reference point is myself.

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And, um, I have, I've got a vessel full of energy.

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But mind you, I'm depleted.

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I know I'm depleted.

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'Cause I'm also a woman, and, uh, unfortunately.

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Damn it.

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Fortunately.

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Unfor- no.

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Well, yeah, you know, I think- Now you're the chalice.

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Yes, but I'm also really good in, uh, you know, squeezing everything out of myself, and I love it.

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But then my body's like, "F off, Mich."

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And I'm like, "Shit."

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"I've gone too far."

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Mm.

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Um, so it's almost like I've got 2 personalities.

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No- Mm

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no, that's not true, actually.

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No, I think you know- I have this one personality- 100%

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but I need to have- Mm

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like, you know, um, I, and I need to have like, you know, the reminder- Mm

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that, that my body needs to be able to follow.

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And, you know, I'm not 20 anymore, but, um, and the thing is, I did far less when I was 20- Mm

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than what I'm doing now.

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Um, I remember when I was in b- in Belgium working as an engineer that, um, that I, that I felt that I wanted to do more.

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So, like, I, I'd come home, and I'm like, "I wanna, I, I wanna feel more useful."

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"I wanna do more.

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I wanna make a difference."

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So I, I got this crazy project on my shoulders that nobody wanted to do.

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And then I was like, "Yes, I'll do it."

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So I always had that in me.

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Um- Do you think that's a quest to learn and, and- It, it's, it's bec-

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or produce products?

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Or as in- No

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produce results of some- Yeah

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as in move the needle?

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It's be- Do you think that's where it comes from?

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It's because, it's because my mom, so then my da- first my dad, now my mom.

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My mom has this insane talent, and she's never done anything with it in her life.

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Mm.

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Or not enough.

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She never moved the needle with it.

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Yeah.

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And when I was, like, I don't know, 15 or something, I read, uh, The Alchemist of Paulo Coelho.

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Mm-hmm.

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And, um, I closed that book, and I was like, "You know what?

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It's gonna be different with me."

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Mm.

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I just made a promise to myself that I was like, "I need to feel that I've, I live this life."

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"And I take absolute everything out of it."

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And that makes me very happy 'cause we're all in this world, and it is important that we do the right thing in this world, and that we do our little bit, and we, we create our little Garden of Eden around us- Mm

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of goodness.

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And then when we're not there anymore, one can only hope that it continues- Yeah

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in one or the other way, whether it is by example- Mm

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or whatever.

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I, I don't know.

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It's probably by example.

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But, um- You create enough momentum within that activity.

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The momentum.

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Yeah.

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And then, and then now this is the thing with Get Baker as well.

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It's like a train that keeps on going.

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And I'm like, "Well, you know, I might as well then just really make it worthwhile."

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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Um, because after me, if all of this ends up dead- Yeah

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like, that's terrible.

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Yeah.

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I've put so much time and energy into it.

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Mm.

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And so again, the reason why I put so much time and energy to it is because I owe it to humanity.

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Mm.

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Like, that's kind of it.

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Like, we need to all understand that we're on this planet, and, uh, we're here to make this planet a better place in one or the other way.

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It doesn't really matter.

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but we can't just watch Netflix- Mm

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and drink a cup of tea.

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Like, what's the use?

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Mm.

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I mean, like- It does seem to defeat the purpose of being here to live this life- Yeah

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in this skin sack.

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Yeah.

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Yeah, why?

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Mm.

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And feel the discomfort with that growth as well because it

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I imagine there must be a fair bit of discomfort that happens when you are growing an empire.

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All the time.

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I love it.

233
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Yeah, so you've actually tipped

234
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I, it's- I liken it to learning to run, right?

235
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Uh, that's my reference point because I hated running, and then had what could have been a catastrophic back injury, and then decided, "Nah, fuck it.

236
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Someone said I'd never run again, so"

237
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Well, never start.

238
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And then I decided to run a half-marathon just to basically, you know, do the middle finger to that advice.

239
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Oh, yes.

240
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And there was a point where, there was a good point where I was learning to run, and the mental thing was the biggest thing, right?

241
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Mm.

242
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Just every single step, "I fucking hate running.

243
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I fucking hate running."

244
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"I'm doing this anyway."

245
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And then at some point, the drug kicked in, and I went, "Oh, this is feeling really good.

246
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I've lost it now, but I know I can recover it."

247
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And I wonder if that's where you're at, is that it's like that discomfort, y- you know that it brings the gold at some point as well.

248
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Yeah, yeah.

249
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So, and I say this to the kids often, you know, as well, the grass isn't greener on the other side, but it actually is.

250
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It depends on how you look at it.

251
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Yeah.

252
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Um, so if you push through, the grass is greener on the other side.

253
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Yeah.

254
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Like, the grass isn't greener on the other side when you flee.

255
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Yeah.

256
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'Cause that's most of the time when this expression is used, right?

257
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Yes, that's right.

258
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But if you push through and

259
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Oh, I'm, I'm just trying to think- Are we talking new, new property acquisitions?

260
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So in fact, you flip that phrase on its head and go, "The grass is greener when you buy the adjacent lot, and you have double the land."

261
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Yeah.

262
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So you actually get to emp- Yeah So you get to grow the empire because actually when you go there, that's part of that motivation.

263
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Yeah.

264
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You actually harness that.

265
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Yeah.

266
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It's also because you know, you need, everybody, people need to kinda know that, you know, we're, we're a vessel of contradictions.

267
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Mm.

268
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And whatever is good for us, the complacency kicks in, or the scareds, you know, it's, if it's the sc- the scary people kick in.

269
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And where with me, it's like, what really, what is really juicy for me is, like, growth- Yeah

270
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learning, and, and growth in learning.

271
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Mm.

272
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And learning in growth.

273
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Like, smartening up and then having the feeling that I was useful in the world.

274
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Mm.

275
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So if I know that that is what really drives me, and those are my values, then I will engineer my life around that.

276
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And yeah, there are absolutely the complacement, the complacent meeks- Mm-hmm

277
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and the lazy, and, eh, and oh, poor me meek- Mm

278
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and whatever.

279
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But then I'm like, hold on.

280
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These are not necessarily gonna make me happy.

281
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Mm.

282
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And, um, I, I gotta, I gotta kinda stay in my value- Mm

283
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and then push through those stories and those narratives that- Mm

284
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and I don't really know why they're there.

285
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Like, it's also, I think the society we live in, we get, we get grass-fed.

286
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Yeah.

287
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We get spoon-fed, actually.

288
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Grass-fed, spoon-fed with, you know, oh, you need to be gentle.

289
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Yeah.

290
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And oh, and you can't do too much.

291
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And- Mm

292
00:14:23,180.00000000011642 --> 00:14:29,930.0000000001164
but this is really hard for me to be living in a world where the narrative is take rests- Yeah

293
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as much as you possibly can- Yeah

294
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where the drive is actually what makes me happy.

295
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So this is really a personal thing that, that-

296
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it's very likely that a lot of people need to live their lives watching Netflix.

297
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Yeah.

298
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I don't know.

299
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Yeah.

300
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But for me, it's always been very contradictory- Mm

301
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as in the society we live in, and the stories, and the narrative that's in society.

302
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And so because of that, that's for me the pushing through.

303
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Mm.

304
00:15:00,160.00000000011642 --> 00:15:03,480
Because I'm also a good girl, and I'm, I'm very obedient.

305
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Mm.

306
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Although everybody thinks that I'm like a heavy drug user, and-

307
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you know, like, bend the rules every, you know, cross of all the rules and do everything that, you know?

308
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Yeah, the rebel.

309
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No, I'm not.

310
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I've always been the good girl.

311
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I've always been the good girl.

312
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Like, you know, my mom said to me, you know, "If you, you know, if you come home at 12:00 PM, uh, AM- Mm

313
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you know, then, uh, and you do that for 3 months, we will make that into 2:00."

314
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Mm.

315
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And I was like, "Well, I'm gonna listen to you because then I can stay out later."

316
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Mm.

317
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So in my brain, I'm like, no, no.

318
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And, uh, so usually- I would call that the long game.

319
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The- You recognized the long game.

320
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You went, "Okay, I'm not gonna do that hedonistic thing of what feels good right now."

321
00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:44,170.00000000011642
Yeah.

322
00:15:44,170.00000000011642 --> 00:15:47,040
"I'm actually gonna play the long game, keep the trust," and it works.

323
00:15:47,040 --> 00:15:47,160.00000000011642
Yeah.

324
00:15:47,160.00000000011642 --> 00:15:50,200
And look, it's, it's also h- the way my mom approached it, right?

325
00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,440
I was the third kid, so.

326
00:15:51,440 --> 00:15:51,880
Yeah.

327
00:15:51,880 --> 00:15:55,150
Um, while my boyfriend was climbing out of windows- Yeah

328
00:15:55,150 --> 00:15:58,260
and I was like, "Pff, all the trouble you need to go to.

329
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I don't have to do any."

330
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Yeah.

331
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So I was always like, I never really

332
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You know, I've, I've done some naughty stuff and stuff, but- Mm

333
00:16:04,260 --> 00:16:06,020
so I'm, I'm, I'm actually a good girl.

334
00:16:06,020 --> 00:16:08,000
So if the narrative says- Mm, mm

335
00:16:08,000 --> 00:16:11,290
don't do anything with your life and watch Netflix- Mm, mm

336
00:16:11,290 --> 00:16:13,480
I get really confused- Yeah

337
00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,860
because the fire is in me, and the fire has always been in me.

338
00:16:16,860 --> 00:16:27,030
Like, I think I was just born that way.And, um, but I also strongly believe that people need to do something in their lives.

339
00:16:27,030 --> 00:16:27,69.99999999988358
Mm.

340
00:16:27,69.99999999988358 --> 00:16:29,620
Like, what if you on your deathbed- Mm

341
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and you cannot say, "I have made a difference"?

342
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Mm.

343
00:16:34,310 --> 00:16:34,450
I agree.

344
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How fucked up.

345
00:16:36,250 --> 00:16:36,480
Sorry.

346
00:16:36,480 --> 00:16:36,670.0000000001164
Yeah.

347
00:16:37,829.9999999998836 --> 00:16:39,810
No, I, I think- Would that be-

348
00:16:39,810 --> 00:16:40,730
that's probably

349
00:16:40,730 --> 00:16:44,170.00000000011642
Well, I, I just think it's an opportunity lost.

350
00:16:44,170.00000000011642 --> 00:16:44,230
Yeah.

351
00:16:44,230 --> 00:16:45,730
I, I view it, I view it very the same way.

352
00:16:45,730 --> 00:16:46,190
It's a life lost.

353
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It's a life lost.

354
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It is.

355
00:16:47,630 --> 00:16:52,510
It, it, I might- How many lives actually go lost- Yeah

356
00:16:52,510 --> 00:16:54,140
each day?

357
00:16:54,140 --> 00:16:54,410.0000000001164
Many

358
00:16:54,410.0000000001164 --> 00:16:56,170.00000000011642
of peop- my- I think many

359
00:16:56,170.00000000011642 --> 00:16:57,790
I'm really sorry.

360
00:16:57,790 --> 00:16:58,829.9999999998836
Um, ba-bum.

361
00:16:58,829.9999999998836 --> 00:16:59,790
Really sorry.

362
00:16:59,790 --> 00:16:59,870
Mm.

363
00:16:59,870 --> 00:17:02,550
I just saw my grandmother passing away.

364
00:17:02,550 --> 00:17:03,326
And I'm like-

365
00:17:04,369.9999999998836 --> 00:17:04,606
what a

366
00:17:05,770 --> 00:17:06,650.0000000001164
God bless her.

367
00:17:06,650.0000000001164 --> 00:17:06,910.0000000001164
Mm.

368
00:17:06,910.0000000001164 --> 00:17:08,329.9999999998836
Really, God bless her soul.

369
00:17:08,329.9999999998836 --> 00:17:08,599.9999999998836
Mm.

370
00:17:08,599.9999999998836 --> 00:17:10,238
'Cause she was really scared.

371
00:17:10,869.9999999998836 --> 00:17:13,886
But what a life wasted.

372
00:17:15,450 --> 00:17:16,889.9999999998836
And she's my grandma.

373
00:17:16,889.9999999998836 --> 00:17:18,174
Although she- What would you have wanted for her?

374
00:17:19,650.0000000001164 --> 00:17:20,637.9999999998836
Go to the moon and back.

375
00:17:21,710 --> 00:17:23,030
Just

376
00:17:23,030 --> 00:17:27,389.9999999998836
And it's really sad, because the way she passed was in her terror.

377
00:17:27,389.9999999998836 --> 00:17:27,983.9999999998836
Mm.

378
00:17:28,850 --> 00:17:29,430
that is- She-

379
00:17:29,430 --> 00:17:31,570
that is very saddening.

380
00:17:31,570 --> 00:17:32,250
That's- Yeah

381
00:17:32,250 --> 00:17:32,380
yeah.

382
00:17:32,380 --> 00:17:32,690
That was- Yeah

383
00:17:32,690 --> 00:17:37,250
because what happened to her was the narcotics.

384
00:17:37,250 --> 00:17:40,750
And she passed during, uh, the narcotics.

385
00:17:40,750 --> 00:17:42,190
She's, she's scared.

386
00:17:42,190 --> 00:17:44,540
She always needed to have a hip replacement.

387
00:17:44,540 --> 00:17:46,360.00000000023283
And from young she always said, "No, no, no, no"- Mm

388
00:17:46,360.00000000023283 --> 00:17:47,490
"because she's too scared."

389
00:17:47,490 --> 00:17:48,050
Yeah.

390
00:17:48,050 --> 00:17:49,650
And she actually passed.

391
00:17:49,650 --> 00:17:53,550
That was her last, and I do not wish that upon anybody.

392
00:17:53,550 --> 00:18:01,810
That's actually really, like, um, I, she made no difference in my life.

393
00:18:01,810 --> 00:18:04,570
I hope nobody of my family is listening to this.

394
00:18:04,570 --> 00:18:05,270
Mm, mm, mm.

395
00:18:05,270 --> 00:18:06,150
No, that's not true.

396
00:18:06,150 --> 00:18:06,830
People of my fa- Mm

397
00:18:06,830 --> 00:18:11,101.99999999976717
actually had a very, very, very honest conversation with my cousin back in Belgium.

398
00:18:11,750 --> 00:18:14,750
And because I made a text for her- Yeah

399
00:18:14,750 --> 00:18:20,580
at the funeral, and she contacted me and she said, "Miek, I don't know how you did it, but it was brilliant."

400
00:18:20,580 --> 00:18:25,650
"Because the text you made was the harsh truth without saying the harsh truth."

401
00:18:25,650 --> 00:18:26,130
Mm-hmm.

402
00:18:26,130 --> 00:18:28,490
And it is a life gone to waste.

403
00:18:28,490 --> 00:18:28,592
Yeah.

404
00:18:30,109 --> 00:18:35,370
And, um- We eulogize the dead way too much.

405
00:18:35,370 --> 00:18:36,130
And- What does that mean?

406
00:18:36,130 --> 00:18:39,210
Eulogize is to say nice things about them because they're dead.

407
00:18:39,210 --> 00:18:41,159
The entire- And I never understand why we do that

408
00:18:41,159 --> 00:18:43,240
so the entire funeral was- Mm

409
00:18:43,240 --> 00:18:44,380
l- led by my

410
00:18:44,380 --> 00:18:47,850
Look, sh- my, I know that my, my auntie will never listen to this.

411
00:18:47,850 --> 00:18:48,250
Mm, mm.

412
00:18:48,250 --> 00:18:51,750
But this en- the entire- But if she does, she'll hear it with love

413
00:18:51,750 --> 00:18:52,870
with lots of love.

414
00:18:52,870 --> 00:18:53,230
Yeah, yeah.

415
00:18:53,230 --> 00:18:55,510
Because, you know, my dad is in here, too.

416
00:18:55,510 --> 00:18:59,929.9999999997672
And God bless him, because he's really trying to make the best out of everything.

417
00:18:59,929.9999999997672 --> 00:19:06,119.00000000023283
So and so the entire funeral was around how amazing she was.

418
00:19:06,119.00000000023283 --> 00:19:10,813.9999999997672
And so I got the feedback from my brothers as well, and they are like, we are like, "Who is this woman?"

419
00:19:11,458.99999999976717 --> 00:19:15,550
And this is not to be, to be demeaning towards my grandma.

420
00:19:16,770 --> 00:19:16,790
Mm.

421
00:19:16,790 --> 00:19:17,750
But really- Mm

422
00:19:17,750 --> 00:19:19,730
ask yourself the question- Mm

423
00:19:19,730 --> 00:19:21,470
what am I doing in this life?

424
00:19:21,470 --> 00:19:21,909.9999999997672
Mm.

425
00:19:21,909.9999999997672 --> 00:19:23,550
And how can I make it better?

426
00:19:23,550 --> 00:19:23,710
Mm.

427
00:19:23,710 --> 00:19:25,790
How can I make a difference?

428
00:19:25,790 --> 00:19:25,889.9999999997672
Mm.

429
00:19:25,889.9999999997672 --> 00:19:30,621.9999999997672
I know that if I'm gonna die, or when I'm gonna die, because if we know.

430
00:19:31,429.99999999976717 --> 00:19:36,750
When I'm gonna die, I know that I made fuckloads of good food for people.

431
00:19:36,750 --> 00:19:36,830
Mm.

432
00:19:36,830 --> 00:19:41,600
And I've tried to make it accessible- Mm

433
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:44,414
in price and in geographics, hopefully soon- Yes

434
00:19:45,210 --> 00:19:49,210
for as much, as many people as possible.

435
00:19:49,210 --> 00:19:53,70.00000000023283
And I hold my discernment into it.

436
00:19:53,70.00000000023283 --> 00:19:53,530
Mm.

437
00:19:53,530 --> 00:19:56,510
I do not wanna become an arrogant

438
00:19:56,510 --> 00:19:57,610.0000000002328
What was that new word?

439
00:19:57,610.0000000002328 --> 00:19:59,210
What was that word that we- Oh, my gosh.

440
00:19:59,210 --> 00:20:01,130
We keep saying we're gonna remember it, and I don't.

441
00:20:01,130 --> 00:20:05,429.99999999976717
I, I, I, we need to- You know, I don't wanna be arrogant about it and, and, you know- Mm

442
00:20:05,429.99999999976717 --> 00:20:06,300
screaming- Mm

443
00:20:06,300 --> 00:20:07,139.99999999976717
on the buildings like- Mm

444
00:20:07,139.99999999976717 --> 00:20:08,490
"Look at I'm doing."

445
00:20:08,490 --> 00:20:08,510
Mm.

446
00:20:08,510 --> 00:20:10,510
No, no, no, I wanna hold a discernment- Mm

447
00:20:10,510 --> 00:20:11,970
and be humble about it.

448
00:20:11,970 --> 00:20:14,110.00000000023283
Oh, navel-gazing is what we were talking about.

449
00:20:14,110.00000000023283 --> 00:20:14,870
Yeah, but the other term.

450
00:20:14,870 --> 00:20:15,600
Yeah, I know.

451
00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:18,150
Navel- You gave me the proper one, I just

452
00:20:18,150 --> 00:20:18,570.0000000002328
Yeah, yeah.

453
00:20:18,570.0000000002328 --> 00:20:19,490
We'll put it up here.

454
00:20:19,490 --> 00:20:20,350
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

455
00:20:20,350 --> 00:20:21,150
Just put it on the screen.

456
00:20:21,150 --> 00:20:22,540
It was a brilliant- It's a good word.

457
00:20:22,540 --> 00:20:23,909.9999999997672
It's, it's a brilliant word, yeah.

458
00:20:23,909.9999999997672 --> 00:20:24,840.0000000002328
It's so good we can't remember it.

459
00:20:24,840.0000000002328 --> 00:20:27,350
It was brilliant, and we Googled it and we were like, "Fuck, yeah."

460
00:20:27,350 --> 00:20:27,639.9999999997672
Yeah, yeah.

461
00:20:27,639.9999999997672 --> 00:20:28,870
'Cause too many people do that.

462
00:20:28,870 --> 00:20:28,930
Yeah.

463
00:20:28,930 --> 00:20:31,820
Because people are talking about tall poppy syndrome.

464
00:20:31,820 --> 00:20:31,840
Yes.

465
00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:34,340
But what's the opposite of tall poppy syndrome?

466
00:20:34,340 --> 00:20:36,624
Well, I think a lot of people keep themselves small.

467
00:20:38,600 --> 00:20:40,690
Yeah, so okay, we can talk a lot about po- po- Mm

468
00:20:40,690 --> 00:20:41,780
tall poppy syndrome.

469
00:20:41,780 --> 00:20:42,560
It's true.

470
00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:42,900
Mm.

471
00:20:42,900 --> 00:20:44,350
But i- it's true.

472
00:20:44,350 --> 00:20:44,380
Mm.

473
00:20:44,380 --> 00:20:45,140
A lot of people

474
00:20:45,140 --> 00:20:47,640
But there is t- or there is always the yin and the yang, right?

475
00:20:47,640 --> 00:20:47,660
Of course.

476
00:20:47,660 --> 00:20:48,500
There's always the yin.

477
00:20:48,500 --> 00:20:51,840
I think there is also too many people that blow their horns too hard.

478
00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:52,680
Yes.

479
00:20:52,680 --> 00:20:57,460
And so I'm trying to- So that's, they're missing substance, essentially.

480
00:20:57,460 --> 00:21:00,080
They don't back up what they're saying, so they're all talk.

481
00:21:00,660 --> 00:21:08,940
And I think that what you're talking about, we, we talk about this stuff anyway in our conversations, which we know we're gonna record from now on.

482
00:21:08,940 --> 00:21:13,240
But it's actually about the energetic signature with that as well.

483
00:21:13,240 --> 00:21:20,980
You can actually feel that the words are empty when people say shit that they just don't, they don't walk the talk.

484
00:21:20,980 --> 00:21:22,960
They don't have runs on the board.

485
00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,694
Like, they're talking themselves into something- Can you feel that?

486
00:21:26,470 --> 00:21:26,660
Which I can, yeah.

487
00:21:26,660 --> 00:21:27,006
I don't

488
00:21:27,700 --> 00:21:28,860
You're saying you can feel that?

489
00:21:28,860 --> 00:21:30,100
Oh, yeah, I can feel it.

490
00:21:30,100 --> 00:21:30,600
Oh, yeah.

491
00:21:30,600 --> 00:21:31,440
I can't feel that.

492
00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:32,520
I thought you were trying to tap me.

493
00:21:32,520 --> 00:21:33,530
I'm like, I don't know why- I don't-

494
00:21:33,530 --> 00:21:34,590
I'm missing.

495
00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:38,320
No, I sometimes- Yeah, no, I feel that

496
00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,940
Oh, no, I, I can feel the, the

497
00:21:40,940 --> 00:21:43,580
I call it the resonant signature, right?

498
00:21:43,580 --> 00:21:45,790
It's the energy they're giving off, and I

499
00:21:45,790 --> 00:21:48,480
And it feels unkind to say, "You're full of shit."

500
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,760
But that's, that's essentially what I feel.

501
00:21:50,760 --> 00:21:53,080
I can feel it's, it's disingenuous.

502
00:21:53,080 --> 00:22:00,880
And, uh, the reason why I don't like calling people out is somewhere in there, some people actually need to fake it till they make it.

503
00:22:01,740 --> 00:22:07,250
So when they wanna be better people, they need to talk themselves into it, create the neural pathway- Mm.

504
00:22:07,250 --> 00:22:08,280
And at some point- Yeah

505
00:22:08,280 --> 00:22:10,350
the universe assembles for them as well.

506
00:22:10,350 --> 00:22:11,240
Mm-mm, yeah, that's true, too.

507
00:22:11,240 --> 00:22:12,300
And they take that invitation.

508
00:22:12,300 --> 00:22:13,120
That's true, too.

509
00:22:13,120 --> 00:22:16,280
But we're talking about the arrogance where people are full of shit- Yes

510
00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:17,920
and they are missing all the signs.

511
00:22:17,920 --> 00:22:20,560
Or, or, um, they make

512
00:22:20,560 --> 00:22:22,100
Well, in my example, in my

513
00:22:22,100 --> 00:22:23,420
This is just my example.

514
00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:23,800
Yeah.

515
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:29,120
They make a staple food non-accessible by making it non-accessible.

516
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:29,220
Yeah.

517
00:22:29,220 --> 00:22:33,720
As in, I'm gonna make it really boutique- Yeah

518
00:22:33,720 --> 00:22:35,920
where I'm like, no, no, let's just keep it real.

519
00:22:35,920 --> 00:22:36,000
Yeah.

520
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:37,580
I don't know how we got to this point of the conversation.

521
00:22:37,580 --> 00:22:39,980
No, but you're talking 20 bucks for a loaf of bread.

522
00:22:39,980 --> 00:22:40,780
Uh- Yeah, yeah, yeah.

523
00:22:40,780 --> 00:22:43,280
Someone like me with 4 kids, and they just inhale bread- Mm

524
00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:44,860.0000000002328
I'm not buying $20 bread.

525
00:22:44,860.0000000002328 --> 00:22:44,870
No.

526
00:22:44,870 --> 00:22:51,260
No, and so this is what we were already talking about, that I prefer to think at my deathbed that- Mm

527
00:22:51,260 --> 00:22:56,639.9999999997672
I was able to, um, give people happy guts.

528
00:22:56,639.9999999997672 --> 00:22:56,910
Yeah.

529
00:22:56,910 --> 00:22:59,670
And put a lot of love.

530
00:22:59,670 --> 00:23:06,170
And so this is the other thing, like, with my back of house and my front of house, you know, with my staff- Yeah

531
00:23:06,170 --> 00:23:09,182
you know, the other side that people don't really see that much of.

532
00:23:09,940 --> 00:23:13,260
Um, I think it's important that the energy's really good.

533
00:23:13,260 --> 00:23:13,480
Yeah.

534
00:23:13,480 --> 00:23:18,940
Because when Michael, well, God bless him, Michael, when he mixes- Yeah

535
00:23:18,940 --> 00:23:20,540
and he's being a dick- Mm

536
00:23:20,540 --> 00:23:23,030
well, then he's giving that energy to the bread.

537
00:23:23,030 --> 00:23:23,540
It's not good.

538
00:23:23,540 --> 00:23:25,560
In his mix with Yeah.

539
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:27,960
He's gonna hate me for saying this.

540
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:29,380
With love.

541
00:23:29,380 --> 00:23:30,920
So I like to create, like, a happy place.

542
00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,340
We're gonna keep softening him.

543
00:23:33,820 --> 00:23:33,880
Yeah.

544
00:23:33,880 --> 00:23:36,280
I like to create, like, the happy place- Yeah

545
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:37,680
and the good energy.

546
00:23:37,680 --> 00:23:37,820
Mm.

547
00:23:37,820 --> 00:23:40,820
And, like, let's feed people the right thing.

548
00:23:40,820 --> 00:23:49,780
Because then you're also, like, not only giving the right foods, but we're also giving the, the correct energetic profile to the foods.

549
00:23:49,780 --> 00:23:55,680
And, uh, and that for me, I think that for me is probably the most important thing.

550
00:23:55,680 --> 00:23:59,600
And soil, I think, like, that's gonna be my next- Mm

551
00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:01,320
kind of venture I'm working on as well.

552
00:24:01,320 --> 00:24:10,520
I'm working on a few things, but soil and farming, and, uh, 'cause I believe that, um, people are so disconnected from foods.

553
00:24:10,520 --> 00:24:12,520
People are just disconnected from themselves.

554
00:24:12,520 --> 00:24:12,860.0000000002328
Yes.

555
00:24:12,860.0000000002328 --> 00:24:15,520
Again, ask yourself, why are you here?

556
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:15,730
Yeah.

557
00:24:15,730 --> 00:24:19,440
And for me, it's really that's, that's why I'm here.

558
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:26,020
And, uh, and, and at the end, uh, and that gives me a lot of energy.

559
00:24:26,020 --> 00:24:26,220
Yeah.

560
00:24:26,220 --> 00:24:32,040
And, um, and, and yeah, make something, make something of your life.

561
00:24:32,040 --> 00:24:33,220
Make something of your life.

562
00:24:33,220 --> 00:24:36,139.99999999976717
And, and, um- They say that about driven people.

563
00:24:36,139.99999999976717 --> 00:24:38,260
They need to be clear on their why.

564
00:24:38,260 --> 00:24:39,340
But I think everybody

565
00:24:39,340 --> 00:24:42,500
No, like, look, like, you're talking about the people- Mm

566
00:24:42,500 --> 00:24:44,318
you know, watching Netflix and- Yeah.

567
00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:49,110.00000000023283
Um, I mean, to a certain extent, okay, watch Netflix.

568
00:24:49,110.00000000023283 --> 00:24:50,460
Um- Yeah, I'm not taking away from that.

569
00:24:50,460 --> 00:24:50,980
I'm- No, no

570
00:24:50,980 --> 00:24:51,930
I'm, I'm interested- But-

571
00:24:51,930 --> 00:24:55,280
because I, I see you as just

572
00:24:55,280 --> 00:24:59,580
And this is what I wanna infuse in women who are about to have a baby, right?

573
00:24:59,580 --> 00:25:05,760
Just when you think you are out of energy, right, your energy bucket is empty, you will find another energy bucket- Mm

574
00:25:05,760 --> 00:25:07,760
or you will find it's deeper than you thought.

575
00:25:07,760 --> 00:25:18,870
But the, the thing that prevents you from accessing it is the belief that you have hit the bottom, and of the bucket, not the bottom of your, you know, mental state.

576
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:27,150
And what I see in you is just when the rest of us will be sitting around going, "Well, that's exhausted," you go, "No, no, it's all right.

577
00:25:27,150 --> 00:25:28,340
We've got a little bit further.

578
00:25:28,340 --> 00:25:29,500
I found another way.

579
00:25:29,500 --> 00:25:31,440
I found more energy."

580
00:25:31,440 --> 00:25:32,574
And so I'm

581
00:25:33,400 --> 00:25:36,510
I find that so reassuring.

582
00:25:37,060 --> 00:25:37,480
Mm.

583
00:25:37,480 --> 00:25:42,420
It's like you're this living example of, "Well, why are you guys stopping?

584
00:25:42,420 --> 00:25:43,720
I've still got energy.

585
00:25:43,720 --> 00:25:44,680
Come on.

586
00:25:44,680 --> 00:25:45,296
Let's go."

587
00:25:46,200 --> 00:26:04,460
Um, I think C- Chris, my head baker, by the way, Chris is, Chris has also been an example, uh, to me in that one where-He said, "Sometimes I feel unwell or a little bit, you know- Mm

588
00:26:04,460 --> 00:26:09,240
I prefer to just come to work than sit miserable on the couch."

589
00:26:09,240 --> 00:26:09,776
Mm.

590
00:26:11,990 --> 00:26:17,180
And I, I hold a lot of that because I, I've kind of, you know, life is an experiment.

591
00:26:17,180 --> 00:26:18,700
I kind of experimented that- Mm

592
00:26:18,700 --> 00:26:19,340
on me.

593
00:26:19,340 --> 00:26:26,672
And, you know, there was a, a certain stage that I was feeling like shit 'cause I, you know, you've seen me go through hell and back.

594
00:26:27,580 --> 00:26:32,980
And, uh, and then I think you said to me at a certain moment, "Let's go to the bakery."

595
00:26:32,980 --> 00:26:37,320
And I was like, everything was screaming me, I can't go to the bakery.

596
00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:37,424
Mm.

597
00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:42,089
Um, but because I'm a good girl Yeah.

598
00:26:42,089 --> 00:26:43,646
I'm like- You followed your order.

599
00:26:44,546 --> 00:26:46,060
I'm like, let's go to the bakery.

600
00:26:46,060 --> 00:26:46,070
Mm.

601
00:26:46,070 --> 00:26:51,620
And then, um, half an hour later I was all better.

602
00:26:51,620 --> 00:26:51,680
Yeah.

603
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,000
And I'm like, oh my God.

604
00:26:53,000 --> 00:26:53,406
Yeah.

605
00:26:54,100 --> 00:26:54,448
Like-

606
00:26:55,100 --> 00:26:55,780
what?

607
00:26:55,780 --> 00:26:56,460
Mm.

608
00:26:56,460 --> 00:26:59,800
Um, but you sometimes- So you move into a creative space, right?

609
00:26:59,800 --> 00:27:00,840
Y- well, yeah.

610
00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:02,540
And because you shift the energy as well.

611
00:27:02,540 --> 00:27:03,080
Yeah.

612
00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:12,139.99999999976717
So sometimes, sometimes you just need to realize that you're telling yourself really that you can't do more.

613
00:27:12,139.99999999976717 --> 00:27:12,160
Mm.

614
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:13,342
Where actually

615
00:27:14,500 --> 00:27:16,540
It's true, you cannot do more- Yeah

616
00:27:16,540 --> 00:27:20,280
unless you tap into something else.

617
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:21,120
Yeah.

618
00:27:21,120 --> 00:27:24,126
And that's usually, and that's with me- Mm

619
00:27:24,860.0000000002328 --> 00:27:27,870
my, uh, my kind of my obligation in life.

620
00:27:28,639.9999999997672 --> 00:27:33,590
Like, I'm like, I can't do more and I'm like, hold on, I've got this great bread to make.

621
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:33,660
Mm.

622
00:27:33,660 --> 00:27:36,680
I've got this, I need to be the example.

623
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:41,450
So bang, that is my little bit of energy pockets- Yeah

624
00:27:41,450 --> 00:27:42,900
that, that I, that I find.

625
00:27:42,900 --> 00:27:46,110.00000000023283
And, and then afterwards I do need to rejuvenate.

626
00:27:46,110.00000000023283 --> 00:27:48,020
And I often don't do that.

627
00:27:48,020 --> 00:27:50,120
And that's where, that's where it's wrong.

628
00:27:50,120 --> 00:27:51,080
That's where it's wrong.

629
00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:51,780
That's where.

630
00:27:51,780 --> 00:27:58,960
And I think sometimes people m- mis- misinterpretor, I don't know how to say this in English properly.

631
00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:02,940
But they of mis- misread their own bodies- Yes

632
00:28:02,940 --> 00:28:04,320
because of their stories.

633
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:05,000
Yes.

634
00:28:05,000 --> 00:28:07,940
I mean, it's, it's really actually good to just push through.

635
00:28:07,940 --> 00:28:08,139.99999999976717
Yeah.

636
00:28:08,139.99999999976717 --> 00:28:09,939
And then, oh, fuck yes, that was amazing.

637
00:28:09,939 --> 00:28:10,280
Yeah.

638
00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:12,229
And then go to the fucking spa.

639
00:28:12,229 --> 00:28:14,920
But- Well, then you know you've hit proper exhaustion, right?

640
00:28:14,920 --> 00:28:17,780
Rather than just the mind saying- Or, or you might have, or-

641
00:28:17,780 --> 00:28:18,660
oh, we, we earned a break.

642
00:28:18,660 --> 00:28:18,860.0000000002328
Yeah.

643
00:28:18,860.0000000002328 --> 00:28:18,900
Yeah.

644
00:28:18,900 --> 00:28:20,720
Or you might have not even hit p- Yeah

645
00:28:20,720 --> 00:28:22,200
exhaustion and you're like, "Oh-" Yeah

646
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:23,100
n- renewed energy.

647
00:28:23,100 --> 00:28:24,380
But then you have to

648
00:28:24,380 --> 00:28:28,620
Like, the thing with me is, uh, that I, I do have to book it in.

649
00:28:28,620 --> 00:28:28,889.9999999997672
Yeah.

650
00:28:28,889.9999999997672 --> 00:28:29,940
'Cause I don't.

651
00:28:29,940 --> 00:28:29,960
Yeah.

652
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,447.99999999976717
That's, that's my biggest- Mm

653
00:28:32,447.99999999976717 --> 00:28:33,289
my biggest problem.

654
00:28:33,289 --> 00:28:33,309
Mm.

655
00:28:33,309 --> 00:28:38,360.00000000023283
Because I get a lot of energy on, on taking the energy.

656
00:28:38,360.00000000023283 --> 00:28:38,940
Yeah.

657
00:28:38,940 --> 00:28:46,240
And, uh, so I'm not gonna advise anybody on this podcast to just keep on going like a motherfucker, like I do.

658
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:46,920
Mm.

659
00:28:46,920 --> 00:28:48,340.00000000023283
Because it, it's not great.

660
00:28:48,340.00000000023283 --> 00:28:51,139.99999999976717
But, uh, pushing through is absolutely- Mm.

661
00:28:51,139.99999999976717 --> 00:28:51,409.99999999976717
Mm

662
00:28:51,409.99999999976717 --> 00:28:55,130
especially for the people that are most of the time, uh, watching Netflix on the couch.

663
00:28:55,130 --> 00:28:55,210
Mm.

664
00:28:55,210 --> 00:28:55,380
Mm.

665
00:28:55,380 --> 00:28:56,520
You'll be fine.

666
00:28:56,520 --> 00:28:57,320.00000000023283
Well, because I- You'll be fine

667
00:28:57,320.00000000023283 --> 00:29:06,250
the thing, the thing for those people, and the reason why I wanted to sort of address that is that these are people that are sitting around going, "Oh, why don't I get anywhere?"

668
00:29:06,250 --> 00:29:18,520
And it's like, because you've hit that mental ceiling, and giving yourself the opportunity to be uncomfortable- But they hit also m- they also hit a m- the mental ceiling- Mm

669
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,800
because they, they're not a- they're not allowing themselves.

670
00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:22,450
Yeah.

671
00:29:22,450 --> 00:29:23,880
"Oh, why am I not getting there?"

672
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:25,530
Because there is a little voice in your head- Yeah, saying

673
00:29:25,530 --> 00:29:26,880
that says that you can't.

674
00:29:26,880 --> 00:29:27,460
Yeah.

675
00:29:27,460 --> 00:29:29,020
Or, or you're not worthy.

676
00:29:29,020 --> 00:29:31,370
Or you're whatever the story is.

677
00:29:31,370 --> 00:29:32,200
Yeah.

678
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,179.99999999976717
And, and, uh, and so stop doing that.

679
00:29:35,179.99999999976717 --> 00:29:35,740
Yeah.

680
00:29:35,740 --> 00:29:37,139.99999999976717
A- and that's why- I love when you say that.

681
00:29:37,139.99999999976717 --> 00:29:37,900
Just stop that.

682
00:29:37,900 --> 00:29:38,530
Yeah, I'll just stop that program.

683
00:29:38,530 --> 00:29:39,520
Stop doing that.

684
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:42,100
Because you, because you need to think about- Yeah

685
00:29:42,100 --> 00:29:43,780
why are you on this planet?

686
00:29:43,780 --> 00:29:43,966
Yeah.

687
00:29:44,560 --> 00:29:44,569
Why?

688
00:29:44,569 --> 00:29:45,880
The greater good.

689
00:29:45,880 --> 00:29:48,139.99999999976717
Get out of your own fucking way.

690
00:29:48,139.99999999976717 --> 00:29:48,600
Mm.

691
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:50,569
Why are you on this planet?

692
00:29:50,569 --> 00:29:52,440
Like, why am I on this planet?

693
00:29:52,440 --> 00:29:55,780
And I'm like, oh, shit, sometimes I feel so uncomfortable- Yeah

694
00:29:55,780 --> 00:30:05,950
to be, like, on Instagram and show my silly face and having my stupid accent and say English bad stuff and whatever.

695
00:30:05,950 --> 00:30:07,358
And I'm like, you know what?

696
00:30:08,200 --> 00:30:09,320.00000000023283
It's for the greater good.

697
00:30:09,320.00000000023283 --> 00:30:09,740
Yeah.

698
00:30:09,740 --> 00:30:11,400
So shut the fuck up.

699
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:12,139.99999999976717
Yeah.

700
00:30:12,139.99999999976717 --> 00:30:13,810
No, I think it's a great motivating tool.

701
00:30:13,810 --> 00:30:15,280
And- 'Cause I say that to myself.

702
00:30:15,280 --> 00:30:16,260
Well- I say that to myself

703
00:30:16,260 --> 00:30:17,750
I think there's far more of us- Shut up, it's okay

704
00:30:17,750 --> 00:30:19,039
that could do better with that.

705
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:19,049
Mm.

706
00:30:19,049 --> 00:30:24,280
Because in fact, what you're tapping into is something that I've been really interested in for quite some time.

707
00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:29,380
And that is I don't think there's any perfect balance, number one, right?

708
00:30:29,380 --> 00:30:37,920
So I'll say that as a caveat, but I find it really interesting that I think we all sit on the spectrum of serving self and serving community.

709
00:30:37,920 --> 00:30:38,400
Ah.

710
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:39,290
So some of us do- Ah

711
00:30:39,290 --> 00:30:43,400
too much for the community, and we deplete ourselves to the point where we're completely run ragged.

712
00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:48,890
We've got nothing to show for anything, and we're no longer of service, right?

713
00:30:48,890 --> 00:30:53,100
Then there are other people that are so focused on self, they do sweet FA for the community- Mm

714
00:30:53,100 --> 00:30:57,390
and, um, you know, they're just basically selfish assholes that take from people, right?

715
00:30:57,390 --> 00:30:58,740
Yeah, and they will die- So it's basically just taking

716
00:30:58,740 --> 00:31:00,280
and they will have had nothing.

717
00:31:00,280 --> 00:31:01,610
And that's not fulfilling.

718
00:31:01,610 --> 00:31:02,560
Well, be- That's not fulfilling

719
00:31:02,560 --> 00:31:06,240
I imagine it doesn't feel great on your deathbed to look back and go

720
00:31:06,240 --> 00:31:20,460
Because the- when you, when you do find that balance, and you are balanced, I'm using that obviously with q- quotations, but when you do that, there is a nourishment of self, but there's a nourishment of the community, where you get that reflected to you.

721
00:31:20,460 --> 00:31:30,960
And I see that when we are doubting ourselves, that self-talk of saying, "Hey, let's do this for the community", can just be that nudge forward to move into it.

722
00:31:30,960 --> 00:31:32,160
It's really powerful.

723
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:33,180
And like you s- It's good advice

724
00:31:33,180 --> 00:31:36,480
and like you said, the community does listen.

725
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:37,090
Yeah.

726
00:31:37,090 --> 00:31:40,702
And actually, the community gives you the strength to do that.

727
00:31:41,474 --> 00:31:41,530
Yeah, yeah.

728
00:31:41,530 --> 00:31:49,040
And so, uh, when I get all the compliments on the bread and everything, that just keeps me going.

729
00:31:49,040 --> 00:31:49,720
Yeah.

730
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,660
And, uh, because that's where I, again, that's where I find my obligation.

731
00:31:53,660 --> 00:31:53,780
Yeah.

732
00:31:53,780 --> 00:31:56,390
You need to kind of find something you really

733
00:31:56,390 --> 00:31:59,340
It's, it all comes down to that- Mm

734
00:31:59,340 --> 00:32:05,880
uh, to the, the fact that you need to think about w- what can I do in this world- Mm

735
00:32:05,880 --> 00:32:08,139.00000000023283
to make this world a better place?

736
00:32:08,139.00000000023283 --> 00:32:08,780
Yeah.

737
00:32:08,780 --> 00:32:10,419
And then, and then focus on that.

738
00:32:10,419 --> 00:32:16,630
And that usually has, like you said, a, a, an extra little vessel of energy- Mm

739
00:32:16,630 --> 00:32:21,850
to keep you going, and also, uh, to, to make all the little voices shut up- Mm

740
00:32:21,850 --> 00:32:23,678
the voices of insecurity.

741
00:32:24,580 --> 00:32:31,740
And, um, and yeah, look, and, and that's a grace pla- that's a great place to be in.

742
00:32:31,740 --> 00:32:32,760
It's a great place to be.

743
00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,430
And it, it is, the grass is greener.

744
00:32:35,580 --> 00:32:39,639.9999999997672
That, that sort of, in that sort, sort of analogy, analogy.

745
00:32:39,639.9999999997672 --> 00:32:40,320
Analogy?

746
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:41,100
Yeah, analogy.

747
00:32:41,100 --> 00:32:41,470
Thank you.

748
00:32:41,470 --> 00:32:41,680
Yeah, you got it.

749
00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:42,260
Thank you.

750
00:32:42,260 --> 00:32:42,460
Yeah.

751
00:32:42,460 --> 00:32:44,580
You speak more languages than I do, so- Yeah

752
00:32:44,580 --> 00:32:46,060
you can butcher English.

753
00:32:46,060 --> 00:32:46,100
No.

754
00:32:46,100 --> 00:32:47,200
Thank you.

755
00:32:47,200 --> 00:32:49,630
So that, that, in that a- analogy- Mm

756
00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:52,540
the grass really is- Yeah

757
00:32:52,540 --> 00:32:53,320
greener- Yeah

758
00:32:53,320 --> 00:32:54,480
on the other sides.

759
00:32:54,480 --> 00:33:04,020
And I wonder if people are feeling that in their heart, because they're actually, uh, you know, at that opportunity where they could be stepping into it, they don't.

760
00:33:04,020 --> 00:33:09,280
And that in itself is like missing the true north, uh, you know?

761
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:09,920
Yeah.

762
00:33:09,920 --> 00:33:15,696
Of what, of what your energy essence wants you to do, because I don't think we're here for anything other than the full expression.

763
00:33:16,720 --> 00:33:18,340
100%.

764
00:33:18,340 --> 00:33:19,139.99999999976717
100%.

765
00:33:19,139.99999999976717 --> 00:33:19,460
Yeah.

766
00:33:19,460 --> 00:33:21,440
This is why life put you here.

767
00:33:21,440 --> 00:33:21,560
Yeah.

768
00:33:21,560 --> 00:33:25,769
This is, and this is what I got out of that book from, uh, Paulo, from The Alchemist- Yeah

769
00:33:25,769 --> 00:33:26,320
as well.

770
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,760
And I don't know, like I, I can't even remember the book properly.

771
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:29,889.9999999997672
Mm.

772
00:33:29,889.9999999997672 --> 00:33:33,200
I, I just remember him sleeping under the stars at a certain moment.

773
00:33:33,200 --> 00:33:35,840
But it's the vibe and the kind of things.

774
00:33:35,840 --> 00:33:35,998
Mm.

775
00:33:36,680 --> 00:33:40,200
it, it just makes you so much happier- Yeah

776
00:33:40,200 --> 00:33:42,660
if you just go- Mm

777
00:33:42,660 --> 00:33:46,520
further than your own little garden.

778
00:33:46,520 --> 00:33:47,020
Mm.

779
00:33:47,020 --> 00:33:49,590
And, and it's such a great place to be.

780
00:33:49,590 --> 00:33:56,530
And then you, and then you live in a world of a lot of jealous people with, uh, that are very good in the, the tall poppy syndrome- Yeah

781
00:33:56,530 --> 00:33:57,860.0000000002328
to break people down.

782
00:33:57,860.0000000002328 --> 00:33:57,960
Yeah.

783
00:33:57,960 --> 00:34:03,300
But then you have to, again, keep on thinking about why it is you need to be here- Mm

784
00:34:03,300 --> 00:34:06,200
in a non-arrogant, discerning way.

785
00:34:06,200 --> 00:34:06,580
Yeah.

786
00:34:06,580 --> 00:34:08,699.9999999997672
Because it needs to be about discernment.

787
00:34:08,699.9999999997672 --> 00:34:12,360.00000000023283
It's not about, "Look at me, I'm so fantastic."

788
00:34:12,360.00000000023283 --> 00:34:12,940
Yeah.

789
00:34:12,940 --> 00:34:15,159.99999999976717
It's about my job- Yeah

790
00:34:15,159.99999999976717 --> 00:34:19,800.0000000002328
in this world, and then it's about what my dad says, and that is, "If you do something- Yeah

791
00:34:19,800.0000000002328 --> 00:34:20,699.9999999997672
do it right."

792
00:34:20,699.9999999997672 --> 00:34:21,179.99999999976717
Yeah.

793
00:34:21,179.99999999976717 --> 00:34:27,159.99999999976717
So you make that commitment, and you, you do hold your word to that commitment that you're here to do.

794
00:34:27,159.99999999976717 --> 00:34:27,429.99999999976717
Mm.

795
00:34:27,429.99999999976717 --> 00:34:29,380
And I think that's so beautiful.

796
00:34:29,380 --> 00:34:37,860.0000000002328
And I think probably for, you know, particularly it's often women who suffer this kind of, you know, misstep on how to fully express themselves.

797
00:34:37,860.0000000002328 --> 00:34:45,400
Like they know what they wanna do to help their community, but they just always keep themselves silenced and just go, "Oh, what if?"

798
00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:50,120
But that's the com- that's the com- that's, that's the narrative of society.

799
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:50,320.00000000023283
Yeah.

800
00:34:50,320.00000000023283 --> 00:34:51,460
It's ki- Yeah.

801
00:34:51,460 --> 00:34:53,760.0000000002328
I think that's an engineered thing.

802
00:34:53,760.0000000002328 --> 00:35:00,740
I, would absolutely agree with you, 'cause to be honest, to sit in the divine feminine is to sit in full creative mode.

803
00:35:00,740 --> 00:35:06,240
And if you're gonna be in full creative mode, you're gonna make a fucking mess of this society that's been- Ah

804
00:35:06,240 --> 00:35:08,460
set up in certain rules and, you know.

805
00:35:08,460 --> 00:35:16,413.99999999953434
And that's why I think the shoulds are really interesting, because often when we find that should language coming in, it's like, that's not ours.

806
00:35:17,180 --> 00:35:18,660
That's not our truth.

807
00:35:18,660 --> 00:35:20,440
That's not what our heart's saying to us.

808
00:35:20,440 --> 00:35:23,980
That's not what the right, what we know to be the right course of action.

809
00:35:23,980 --> 00:35:24,640
Mm.

810
00:35:24,640 --> 00:35:29,160
Or, you know, um, some compelling of doing something that you actually don't wanna do.

811
00:35:29,160 --> 00:35:30,820
That's the good girl bullshit.

812
00:35:30,820 --> 00:35:31,620
Yeah.

813
00:35:31,620 --> 00:35:31,880
Yeah.

814
00:35:31,880 --> 00:35:33,214
That's actually so true.

815
00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:35,070
So do you think you can

816
00:35:35,870 --> 00:35:51,454
This, I find this so interesting because we have this world set up where the masculine energy of all the, the doing and this force and pushing and, you know, like being on the front line and f- new frontiers.

817
00:35:52,100 --> 00:35:55,394
Can you do that and s- and still feel feminine?

818
00:35:58,400 --> 00:35:59,520
The dirty laugh.

819
00:36:02,460 --> 00:36:04,800
Oh, this is like the milliondollar question.

820
00:36:04,800 --> 00:36:06,620
Um- Do you think you can do that?

821
00:36:06,620 --> 00:36:11,640
Do you feel that?Look, and again, it's

822
00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:13,440
This is so hard.

823
00:36:13,440 --> 00:36:18,100
And I w- I was saying, I'm just gonna go to this answer with a deviation.

824
00:36:18,100 --> 00:36:18,480
Excellent.

825
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,180
I was saying this, I was

826
00:36:20,180 --> 00:36:23,358
That it's conversation with the ADHD conversations.

827
00:36:23,920 --> 00:36:25,900
I've got no reference points.

828
00:36:25,900 --> 00:36:28,380
I don't know how it is to be

829
00:36:28,380 --> 00:36:33,640
And now I'm labeling, I know, so but just for the ease of it, I don't know how it is to not be me.

830
00:36:33,640 --> 00:36:34,680
I don't know how it is.

831
00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:35,140
Yeah.

832
00:36:35,140 --> 00:36:38,800
I don't know how it is to not be not ADHD.

833
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:39,344
Ah.

834
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:40,910
I don't know.

835
00:36:40,910 --> 00:36:44,478
I don't know how it is to be not full of drive.

836
00:36:45,340 --> 00:36:51,279.99999999953434
And so there is all, again, there is this narrative, and you see it on Instagram, and feminine and ma- masculine.

837
00:36:51,279.99999999953434 --> 00:36:52,420
I'm like, ah.

838
00:36:52,420 --> 00:36:56,320
And again, I'm trying to be a good girl, and I'm just stressed that I'm doing it the wrong way.

839
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:56,656
Yeah.

840
00:36:57,640 --> 00:37:00,920
You know, like, I'm actually ready to ditch all of that shit- Mm

841
00:37:00,920 --> 00:37:08,000
and, and just, um, the truth is, I have to do.

842
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:08,680
Mm.

843
00:37:08,680 --> 00:37:11,500
And in order to create the feminine- Mm

844
00:37:11,500 --> 00:37:12,720.0000000004657
I have to do.

845
00:37:12,720.0000000004657 --> 00:37:14,020
I have to do.

846
00:37:14,020 --> 00:37:16,798
And, and I, and I don't- Well, birth has that.

847
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:18,480
Birth has that.

848
00:37:18,480 --> 00:37:18,500
Yeah.

849
00:37:18,500 --> 00:37:23,510
I mean, to bring forward a child, it's messy and there's, you know- Actually, that is true

850
00:37:23,510 --> 00:37:30,490
fluid coming out of different orifices and, you know, you get all sweaty and you get grunty and, you know, there's- Yeah, that's actually very masculine.

851
00:37:30,490 --> 00:37:31,980
It is actually very masculine.

852
00:37:31,980 --> 00:37:32,380
Yeah.

853
00:37:32,380 --> 00:37:33,220.00000000046566
So there you go.

854
00:37:33,220.00000000046566 --> 00:37:34,760
It's always everywhere.

855
00:37:34,760 --> 00:37:37,560
Oh, next time I won't ask you the question, I'll answer it myself.

856
00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:38,718
I think that's

857
00:37:41,520 --> 00:37:42,340
So- No, I get that.

858
00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:43,140
I mean, I do

859
00:37:43,140 --> 00:37:53,820
I hear what you're saying because, in fact, I do realize that sometimes with these questions, when you say, "Well, that's just who I am," then that is your perfect expression of who you are.

860
00:37:53,820 --> 00:37:56,640
And it's a bit like asking a giraffe, "Why is your neck long?"

861
00:37:56,640 --> 00:37:58,450
And he's like, "Well, I don't know."

862
00:37:58,450 --> 00:37:59,760
"It's just, uh, it is.

863
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,480
It helps me eat those leaves up there."

864
00:38:01,480 --> 00:38:02,080
Mm.

865
00:38:02,080 --> 00:38:06,800
So I, I can see that that a- actually is not a very intelligent question to ask.

866
00:38:06,800 --> 00:38:08,000
It just is.

867
00:38:08,000 --> 00:38:13,380
My, my reframe of this, if you'll indulge me, is when

868
00:38:13,380 --> 00:38:16,112
Can you see in other people when they have that?

869
00:38:17,186 --> 00:38:22,180
That, that similar drive of that is just their natural expression and they just

870
00:38:22,180 --> 00:38:22,590
Yeah.

871
00:38:23,880 --> 00:38:24,528.0000000004657
Yeah, I can.

872
00:38:25,580 --> 00:38:27,100
What do you do for the people- Oh, heavens

873
00:38:27,100 --> 00:38:29,380
that want to do it and just don't?

874
00:38:29,380 --> 00:38:30,580
Do you think they can get there?

875
00:38:30,580 --> 00:38:32,080
That they have the drive?

876
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:32,559
No, they don't.

877
00:38:32,559 --> 00:38:33,980
They don't have the drive.

878
00:38:33,980 --> 00:38:36,240
They have the wish and the inclination and the dreams.

879
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:37,700
But I do not

880
00:38:37,700 --> 00:38:40,318
So this is what I then from my-

881
00:38:40,940 --> 00:38:42,799
frame sets do not understand.

882
00:38:42,799 --> 00:38:43,568
It's- Mm

883
00:38:43,568 --> 00:38:46,200
how can you have the drive and not do it?

884
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:46,576
Mm.

885
00:38:47,720.0000000004657 --> 00:38:48,020
Yeah.

886
00:38:48,020 --> 00:38:49,700
So- So the drive is missing.

887
00:38:49,700 --> 00:38:50,050
It's the wish to do it.

888
00:38:50,050 --> 00:38:50,960
Well, no because they

889
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:52,279.99999999953434
Well, okay, okay, yeah, sorry.

890
00:38:52,279.99999999953434 --> 00:38:52,510
Okay.

891
00:38:52,510 --> 00:38:54,090
Okay, so they have the wish to do it- Mm

892
00:38:54,090 --> 00:38:55,340
but they're not doing it.

893
00:38:55,340 --> 00:38:55,550
Mm.

894
00:38:56,720.0000000004657 --> 00:39:02,880
And so I'm, I'm then more like, okay, then let me, uh, reverse engineer this.

895
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:03,070
Mm.

896
00:39:03,680 --> 00:39:07,680
Because that's then not about masculinity and femininity anymore.

897
00:39:07,680 --> 00:39:11,260
It's just, okay, they, they want to do it and they're not doing it.

898
00:39:11,260 --> 00:39:14,480
Well, then something is in their way, and it's usually themselves.

899
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:14,840
Yeah.

900
00:39:14,840 --> 00:39:16,080
It's just their narrative.

901
00:39:16,740 --> 00:39:23,620
So and I do see a lot of people with a drive and, um, and they're not doing it.

902
00:39:23,620 --> 00:39:32,400
And it's always like, oh gosh, it's because you're telling yourself a story that is not suiting you.

903
00:39:32,400 --> 00:39:32,440
Mm.

904
00:39:32,440 --> 00:39:33,279.99999999953434
Whatever that is.

905
00:39:33,279.99999999953434 --> 00:39:33,880
Whatever it is.

906
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,700
Sometimes it's like, I'm not worthy.

907
00:39:36,700 --> 00:39:40,020
Sometimes it's like, I'm too scared to do it on my own.

908
00:39:40,020 --> 00:39:41,080
Mm.

909
00:39:41,080 --> 00:39:41,570
Mm.

910
00:39:41,570 --> 00:39:48,320
Um, or, you know, I'm actually thinking about people right now, um, like, oh, I'm too afraid to do it on my own.

911
00:39:48,320 --> 00:39:52,880
Okay, but if you've got that realization to, that you're too afraid to do it on your own- Mm

912
00:39:52,880 --> 00:39:56,000
then challenge yourself and set yourse- self above it.

913
00:39:56,000 --> 00:39:56,080
Mm.

914
00:39:56,080 --> 00:40:00,820
And there comes the, the, the, the obligation in life again.

915
00:40:00,820 --> 00:40:00,830
Yeah.

916
00:40:00,830 --> 00:40:02,430
Because if you don't do that-

917
00:40:03,090 --> 00:40:05,000
what are you gonna do at your deathbed?

918
00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:05,220.00000000046566
Mm.

919
00:40:05,220.00000000046566 --> 00:40:07,100
My grandma was too scared- Mm

920
00:40:07,100 --> 00:40:11,290
to go into, um, into narcosis.

921
00:40:11,290 --> 00:40:11,620
Mm.

922
00:40:11,620 --> 00:40:12,606
Like I said before.

923
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:14,570
And you, you

924
00:40:14,570 --> 00:40:18,200
She lived her entire life being scared.

925
00:40:18,200 --> 00:40:18,320
Mm.

926
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,250
And she's done nothing.

927
00:40:20,250 --> 00:40:23,430
Oh, she was worried about the painkillers that would have- The nar- the narcosis

928
00:40:23,430 --> 00:40:25,020
meant the narcotics.

929
00:40:25,020 --> 00:40:25,070
I know.

930
00:40:25,070 --> 00:40:27,120
But yeah, so she was worried about that, and that's why- But-

931
00:40:27,120 --> 00:40:29,38.99999999953434
she didn't have her hip- Replaced

932
00:40:29,38.99999999953434 --> 00:40:29,260
Yeah.

933
00:40:29,260 --> 00:40:29,580
Yeah, yeah.

934
00:40:29,580 --> 00:40:30,270
Right.

935
00:40:30,270 --> 00:40:33,320
And so then she lived in pain and fear, and- Yeah, and that-

936
00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,326
and that's where we say that life was lost.

937
00:40:36,180 --> 00:40:39,140
Pain and fear, but also extreme selfishness- Yeah

938
00:40:39,140 --> 00:40:42,700
because everything had to be e- engineered around her.

939
00:40:42,700 --> 00:40:43,030
Yeah.

940
00:40:43,030 --> 00:40:44,900
And that was really nice, right?

941
00:40:44,900 --> 00:40:44,920
Yeah.

942
00:40:44,920 --> 00:40:44,930
Yeah, yeah.

943
00:40:44,930 --> 00:40:47,540
'Cause, you know, everybody is there to serve you.

944
00:40:47,540 --> 00:40:48,110
Yeah.

945
00:40:48,110 --> 00:40:49,160
And so

946
00:40:49,160 --> 00:40:51,320
And that was also the narrative she grew up in.

947
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:53,660
So it, you know, it's a bit more complicated than that- Mm

948
00:40:53,660 --> 00:40:55,340
or complex than that.

949
00:40:55,340 --> 00:41:00,690
Uh, but I saw, I see that, and I saw that, and I can, like, reverse engineer this human being.

950
00:41:00,690 --> 00:41:09,110
And I'm like, well, if you just have that self-realization, if you just have a good conversation with yourself- Mm.

951
00:41:09,110 --> 00:41:09,600
Mm, mm, mm

952
00:41:09,600 --> 00:41:12,780
not look in the mirror and say, "You're really cool."

953
00:41:12,780 --> 00:41:13,620
Yeah.

954
00:41:13,620 --> 00:41:16,900
But also, what the fuck are you doing wrong- Yeah

955
00:41:16,900 --> 00:41:18,380
to not live your full potential?

956
00:41:18,380 --> 00:41:18,640
Mm.

957
00:41:18,640 --> 00:41:20,000
And how can I do it better?

958
00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:21,900
Oh, that is a T-shirt worthy slogan.

959
00:41:21,900 --> 00:41:23,460
Ah, let's remember it.

960
00:41:23,460 --> 00:41:25,540
Luckily you're- Lucky we're recording.

961
00:41:25,540 --> 00:41:27,400
Lucky we rec- co- record it.

962
00:41:27,400 --> 00:41:30,940
And then, and then you have a, a job to do.

963
00:41:30,940 --> 00:41:31,540
Yeah.

964
00:41:31,540 --> 00:41:32,540
You have a job to do.

965
00:41:32,540 --> 00:41:32,740
Yeah.

966
00:41:32,740 --> 00:41:34,240
Break down that narrative.

967
00:41:34,240 --> 00:41:36,000
Like, I'm constantly doing that.

968
00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:38,260
You know my deepest fears, right?

969
00:41:38,260 --> 00:41:38,940
Mm, mm, mm.

970
00:41:38,940 --> 00:41:40,800
I constantly challenge that.

971
00:41:40,800 --> 00:41:40,810
Mm.

972
00:41:40,810 --> 00:41:41,540
How can I do it?

973
00:41:41,540 --> 00:41:46,200
But to, to the extreme that I actually go too far that way- Mm

974
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:47,840
that I push myself- Mm

975
00:41:47,840 --> 00:41:48,830
way too far.

976
00:41:48,830 --> 00:41:49,060
Yeah.

977
00:41:49,060 --> 00:41:53,760
But I see a lot of people, they're like, they don't push themselves- Mm

978
00:41:53,760 --> 00:41:54,830
at all.

979
00:41:54,830 --> 00:41:54,880
Mm.

980
00:41:54,880 --> 00:41:55,560
Why?

981
00:41:55,560 --> 00:42:02,320
Because we live in a world where we, like, you know, on- we only look at one side.

982
00:42:02,320 --> 00:42:02,620
Yeah.

983
00:42:02,620 --> 00:42:05,500
Look at yourself in the mirror and tell yourself you're worthy.

984
00:42:05,500 --> 00:42:05,840
Yeah.

985
00:42:06,420 --> 00:42:07,580
okay, while you're doing that- Yeah

986
00:42:07,580 --> 00:42:12,609
look at self, yourself in the mirror and tell yourself to go fuck yourself- Yeah

987
00:42:12,609 --> 00:42:13,560
and do it better.

988
00:42:13,560 --> 00:42:13,880
Yeah.

989
00:42:13,880 --> 00:42:15,620
Because you will be happier- Yeah

990
00:42:15,620 --> 00:42:17,320
if you're living your full potential.

991
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:17,620
Yeah.

992
00:42:17,620 --> 00:42:20,180
But that's not easy, and you have to push yourself.

993
00:42:20,180 --> 00:42:24,160
So it's not only about, you're worthy or I'm worthy.

994
00:42:24,160 --> 00:42:27,920
It's also like, I'm worthy, and I'm actually going to do this.

995
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:27,930
Yeah.

996
00:42:27,930 --> 00:42:30,980
And these are my blocks.

997
00:42:30,980 --> 00:42:31,240
Mm.

998
00:42:31,240 --> 00:42:34,080
My, my blockages, and I'm gonna- Yeah

999
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:35,380
be gentle.

1000
00:42:35,380 --> 00:42:35,760
Yeah.

1001
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:36,160
Very

1002
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,360
You need to do it in a space- Yeah

1003
00:42:38,360 --> 00:42:42,200
where you're extremely self-forgiving.

1004
00:42:42,200 --> 00:42:43,760
Because if you're not self-forgiving- Mm

1005
00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:45,520
and you're self-loathing- Mm

1006
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:47,000
it's up the top.

1007
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:47,310
Yeah.

1008
00:42:47,310 --> 00:42:49,260
You cannot move the needle.

1009
00:42:49,260 --> 00:42:54,700
You need to look at those blocks and say, "Oh, I love you so much- Yeah

1010
00:42:54,700 --> 00:42:56,800
but you're useless.

1011
00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:57,600
You're out."

1012
00:42:57,600 --> 00:42:57,780
Yeah.

1013
00:42:57,780 --> 00:43:00,000
Now I'm gonna push myself further.

1014
00:43:00,000 --> 00:43:02,544
And then you're on the other side, and you're just gonna say, "Oh-

1015
00:43:03,458 --> 00:43:05,760
was so worth it."

1016
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:13,160
So I feel like when you do that, you're taking yourself back to those baby and toddler years, which we've all experienced.

1017
00:43:13,160 --> 00:43:18,256
Because I'm sure the toddler that's learning to walk isn't there going, "Oh, fuck, I fell over again."

1018
00:43:18,840 --> 00:43:20,900
Like, I'm sure they go, "Oh- I probably was that

1019
00:43:20,900 --> 00:43:21,420
lost my"

1020
00:43:21,420 --> 00:43:22,460
Well, but my

1021
00:43:22,460 --> 00:43:25,200
Well, maybe you were, but, uh, but- I was like, "Fuck, fell over again.

1022
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:26,440
I need to go."

1023
00:43:26,440 --> 00:43:26,900
That's what

1024
00:43:26,900 --> 00:43:27,460
Well, that's right.

1025
00:43:27,460 --> 00:43:28,560
That gives you a get up and go.

1026
00:43:28,560 --> 00:43:42,620
But my point is that that self-critic, that inner critic that seems to just be so prevalent for adults particularly, that know what n- have a sense of where they wanna go and just aren't taking action on getting there.

1027
00:43:42,620 --> 00:43:45,420
You need to treat it with your prefrontal cortex.

1028
00:43:45,420 --> 00:43:45,680
Yeah.

1029
00:43:46,580 --> 00:43:47,060
Which is what?

1030
00:43:47,060 --> 00:43:48,030
Give it tasks?

1031
00:43:48,640 --> 00:43:49,580
Y- yeah.

1032
00:43:49,580 --> 00:43:49,940
Mm.

1033
00:43:49,940 --> 00:43:51,800
Logic yourself out of it.

1034
00:43:51,800 --> 00:43:52,260
Yeah.

1035
00:43:52,260 --> 00:43:53,720
Logic yourself out of it.

1036
00:43:53,720 --> 00:43:55,640
Be extremely kind.

1037
00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:55,680
Mm.

1038
00:43:55,680 --> 00:43:57,310
Don't try to magic- Yeah

1039
00:43:57,310 --> 00:43:58,360
that little critic away- Mm

1040
00:43:58,360 --> 00:44:00,769
because you will never be able- Yeah

1041
00:44:00,769 --> 00:44:02,320
to magic away your self-critic.

1042
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:02,540
Yeah.

1043
00:44:02,540 --> 00:44:03,440
But that's fine.

1044
00:44:03,440 --> 00:44:03,600
Yeah.

1045
00:44:03,600 --> 00:44:04,880
It can just sit there.

1046
00:44:04,880 --> 00:44:05,840
You- Yeah, the critic serves

1047
00:44:05,840 --> 00:44:07,030
you don't have to- Yeah

1048
00:44:07,030 --> 00:44:07,710
listen to it all the time.

1049
00:44:07,710 --> 00:44:08,120
Yeah.

1050
00:44:08,120 --> 00:44:13,150
You treat with your prefrontal cortex, with your logic mind, and you just say, "Hold on."

1051
00:44:14,530 --> 00:44:14,770
Mm.

1052
00:44:14,770 --> 00:44:15,540
"If I just

1053
00:44:15,540 --> 00:44:15,860
Okay.

1054
00:44:15,860 --> 00:44:16,062
Okay.

1055
00:44:16,674 --> 00:44:17,720.0000000004657
That doesn't feel great.

1056
00:44:17,720.0000000004657 --> 00:44:18,050
Okay."

1057
00:44:18,050 --> 00:44:20,959
"It doesn't feel great, but with a little step"

1058
00:44:20,959 --> 00:44:23,540
And I was ta- telling my coach this before.

1059
00:44:23,540 --> 00:44:23,600
Mm.

1060
00:44:23,600 --> 00:44:27,920
Like, I've got no problems to go into pits, financial pits.

1061
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:28,190
Yeah.

1062
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:31,700
But I always doing it in ca- in a cautious way.

1063
00:44:31,700 --> 00:44:32,100
Mm.

1064
00:44:32,100 --> 00:44:34,220.00000000046566
Because I'm calc- prefrontal cortex.

1065
00:44:34,220.00000000046566 --> 00:44:34,310
Mm.

1066
00:44:34,310 --> 00:44:35,520
I'm calculated.

1067
00:44:35,520 --> 00:44:36,460
Mm.

1068
00:44:36,460 --> 00:44:41,770
In my brain, I know that if I'm gonna spend a lot of money- Mm.

1069
00:44:41,770 --> 00:44:43,980
I know that then it will come back to me- Mm

1070
00:44:43,980 --> 00:44:45,600
in tenfold, and it's fine.

1071
00:44:45,600 --> 00:44:47,560
So I'm there to take a risk.

1072
00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:51,279.99999999953434
And so this is not only about money, but it's about anything in life.

1073
00:44:51,279.99999999953434 --> 00:44:54,890
I will take this risk and pu- put myself in my discomfort- Mm

1074
00:44:54,890 --> 00:44:56,640
and i- in a, in a zone that I

1075
00:44:56,640 --> 00:44:58,570
Like now with the social media stuff, like, ugh.

1076
00:44:58,570 --> 00:44:59,180
Yeah.

1077
00:44:59,180 --> 00:45:00,460
But I know- Mm

1078
00:45:00,460 --> 00:45:03,160
I treat it with my prefrontal cortex- Mm

1079
00:45:03,160 --> 00:45:06,020
which, which is basically probably my self energy.

1080
00:45:06,020 --> 00:45:06,100
Mm.

1081
00:45:06,100 --> 00:45:06,930
But I'm like, you know what?

1082
00:45:06,930 --> 00:45:09,180
I know better than my inner critic.

1083
00:45:09,180 --> 00:45:10,940
And my inner critic is not me.

1084
00:45:10,940 --> 00:45:12,500
It's just a part of me.

1085
00:45:12,500 --> 00:45:13,040
Yeah.

1086
00:45:13,040 --> 00:45:15,330
And again, it's allowed to be there.

1087
00:45:15,330 --> 00:45:15,400
Mm.

1088
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:19,120
It is absolutely allowed to be there because if you start hating yourself- Mm

1089
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:21,260
it gets really, really messy.

1090
00:45:21,260 --> 00:45:21,390
Yeah.

1091
00:45:21,390 --> 00:45:22,580
You can't do that.

1092
00:45:22,580 --> 00:45:22,990
The

1093
00:45:22,990 --> 00:45:27,740
I, I reckon the most successful people, uh, love themselves- Yeah

1094
00:45:27,740 --> 00:45:28,860
so much.

1095
00:45:28,860 --> 00:45:32,160
Even their inner critic, who is there to serve them.

1096
00:45:32,160 --> 00:45:33,220.00000000046566
And they're like- Yeah

1097
00:45:33,220.00000000046566 --> 00:45:36,969
they're like absolute- Mm

1098
00:45:36,969 --> 00:45:37,960
hammers.

1099
00:45:37,960 --> 00:45:40,880
They're like putting their standards up there.

1100
00:45:40,880 --> 00:45:41,140
Mm.

1101
00:45:41,140 --> 00:45:41,740
Whatever.

1102
00:45:41,740 --> 00:45:43,500
You can do all of that.

1103
00:45:43,500 --> 00:45:43,600
Mm.

1104
00:45:43,600 --> 00:45:45,840
You can absolutely do all of that.

1105
00:45:45,840 --> 00:45:51,110
Gordon Ramsay, you can Go- In a kind way- Yeah

1106
00:45:51,110 --> 00:45:52,060
you can do that.

1107
00:45:52,060 --> 00:45:53,170
Because there's a lot of

1108
00:45:53,170 --> 00:45:57,420
In the narrative, there is also like, oh, if you put a standard there, you have to be an asshole.

1109
00:45:57,420 --> 00:45:57,750
Yeah.

1110
00:45:57,750 --> 00:45:58,320
You don't.

1111
00:45:58,320 --> 00:45:58,760
Yeah.

1112
00:45:58,760 --> 00:45:59,220.00000000046566
No.

1113
00:45:59,220.00000000046566 --> 00:46:01,520
Put a standard there, and do it in a kind way.

1114
00:46:01,520 --> 00:46:01,610
Mm.

1115
00:46:01,610 --> 00:46:05,360
And just say, "That's my standard, and it's really good, and it's an amazing standard to have."

1116
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:06,840
Let's see how we can get there.

1117
00:46:06,840 --> 00:46:07,320
Mm.

1118
00:46:07,320 --> 00:46:08,700
Let's just explore.

1119
00:46:08,700 --> 00:46:09,120
Mm.

1120
00:46:09,120 --> 00:46:09,460
You know?

1121
00:46:09,460 --> 00:46:09,760
Mm.

1122
00:46:09,760 --> 00:46:12,040
That's something you ta- taught me as well.

1123
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:12,200
Yeah.

1124
00:46:12,200 --> 00:46:12,969
You're welcome.

1125
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:15,040
I don't remember that.

1126
00:46:16,452 --> 00:46:23,358
Okay, so I wanna bring this to a beautiful close because there is, there has been so much gold that you have shared.

1127
00:46:24,232 --> 00:46:33,488
And I think that even, even with, and I'm sure you'll have some kind of thing of going, "I don't have all the answers", but I think you have all of your answers.

1128
00:46:34,192 --> 00:46:35,302
I have- I, I mean, I, I know- No

1129
00:46:35,302 --> 00:46:39,512
we all have our own answers, but I think you actually do know you have all your answers.

1130
00:46:39,512 --> 00:46:41,132
So- I've got all of- I don't, not all of them.

1131
00:46:41,132 --> 00:46:42,392
Well, you've got a lot of them.

1132
00:46:42,392 --> 00:46:52,052
And certainly in terms of how to build empires and, and fuck the shoulds at the same time, and not do all the things that you're told to do in society.

1133
00:46:52,052 --> 00:46:52,392
You know?

1134
00:46:52,392 --> 00:46:55,452
So basically forge based on your truth.

1135
00:46:55,452 --> 00:46:56,452
My truth, yes.

1136
00:46:56,452 --> 00:46:56,892
Exactly.

1137
00:46:56,892 --> 00:47:03,198
What, what advice, what, would you put on a bumper sticker, on a T-shirt for yourself?

1138
00:47:04,912 --> 00:47:09,132
Because within that there will be gold for other people.

1139
00:47:09,132 --> 00:47:11,134
Do what you need to do and it will be right.

1140
00:47:15,452 --> 00:47:16,372
Beautiful.

1141
00:47:16,372 --> 00:47:16,992
I love it.

1142
00:47:16,992 --> 00:47:18,332
That's, that's actually nice and tidy.

1143
00:47:18,332 --> 00:47:19,612
We can fit that on a T-shirt.

1144
00:47:19,612 --> 00:47:20,312
Yeah.

1145
00:47:20,312 --> 00:47:23,552
But it's totally true because if you do what you need to do- Mm

1146
00:47:23,552 --> 00:47:25,438
your true obligation in life-

1147
00:47:26,132 --> 00:47:27,692
you're actually authentic.

1148
00:47:27,692 --> 00:47:27,952
Yeah.

1149
00:47:27,952 --> 00:47:29,072
You're actually authentic.

1150
00:47:29,072 --> 00:47:36,312
All these people that are not authentic and eh, that's because they're, well, they're then too much in their engineer thinking- Yes

1151
00:47:36,312 --> 00:47:37,272
and not their self thinking.

1152
00:47:37,272 --> 00:47:39,998
And trying to be something that they think other people want.

1153
00:47:40,752 --> 00:47:41,552
Absolutely.

1154
00:47:41,552 --> 00:47:41,662
Yeah.

1155
00:47:41,662 --> 00:47:43,512
Do what you need to do.

1156
00:47:43,512 --> 00:47:44,212
Just gotta be yourself.

1157
00:47:44,212 --> 00:47:46,832
Need to do as in your obligation in life.

1158
00:47:46,832 --> 00:47:47,052
Yeah.

1159
00:47:47,052 --> 00:47:49,872
And everybody knows what that obligation is in life- Mm

1160
00:47:49,872 --> 00:47:50,672
deep down.

1161
00:47:50,672 --> 00:47:50,982
Mm.

1162
00:47:50,982 --> 00:47:52,712
Yeah, and it doesn't need to be massive.

1163
00:47:52,712 --> 00:47:53,252
Mm.

1164
00:47:53,252 --> 00:47:56,072
It doesn't need to be ma- It just needs to be your juice.

1165
00:47:56,072 --> 00:47:56,432
Mm.

1166
00:47:56,432 --> 00:48:01,632
That's where a, an, an infinite amount of energy lays.

1167
00:48:01,632 --> 00:48:02,002
Yeah.

1168
00:48:02,002 --> 00:48:03,072
And it will be right.

1169
00:48:03,072 --> 00:48:03,752
Yeah.

1170
00:48:03,752 --> 00:48:04,471.99999999953434
It will be right.

1171
00:48:04,471.99999999953434 --> 00:48:07,230
And it will, and it, that, that's when the snowball comes in-

1172
00:48:08,072 --> 00:48:11,142
and you just let it, let it, let the snowball- Mm

1173
00:48:11,142 --> 00:48:15,772
roll off the mountain while you're doing what you need to do, and it will be right.

1174
00:48:15,772 --> 00:48:15,892
Mm.

1175
00:48:15,892 --> 00:48:17,352
Yeah, 'cause you don't need to push it down.

1176
00:48:17,352 --> 00:48:17,492
No.

1177
00:48:17,492 --> 00:48:18,842
It'll just build and gather momentum.

1178
00:48:18,842 --> 00:48:19,294
Yeah.

1179
00:48:21,634 --> 00:48:23,132
Brilliant.

1180
00:48:23,132 --> 00:48:24,471.99999999953434
Oh my goodness.

1181
00:48:24,471.99999999953434 --> 00:48:24,852
Juicy.

1182
00:48:24,852 --> 00:48:26,291
More, so juicy.

1183
00:48:26,291 --> 00:48:26,662
So juicy.

1184
00:48:26,662 --> 00:48:27,832
Juicy.

1185
00:48:27,832 --> 00:48:29,572
Oh, so sexy.

1186
00:48:29,572 --> 00:48:34,352
Thank you, beautiful Meek, for bringing your wisdom to- Thank you, beautiful Jenny

1187
00:48:35,682 --> 00:48:37,371
good, um, Quanta folks.

1188
00:48:37,371 --> 00:48:39,842
We'll look forward to the next conversation.

1189
00:48:39,842 --> 00:48:48,892
If you are anywhere in Australia, book a plane, train, or borrow your neighbor's car 'cause fuel's so expensive-

1190
00:48:48,892 --> 00:48:52,952
and come down to the Bellarine Peninsula and experience Ket Baker.

1191
00:48:52,952 --> 00:48:54,672
And this Airbnb.

1192
00:48:54,672 --> 00:48:55,692
And this Airbnb.

1193
00:48:55,692 --> 00:48:58,861
This beautiful birth sanctuary and, um- Yeah, and the birth sanctuary.

1194
00:48:58,861 --> 00:48:58,971.9999999995343
Yeah.

1195
00:48:58,971.9999999995343 --> 00:49:00,072
the birth sanctuary.

1196
00:49:00,072 --> 00:49:03,511.99999999953434
And we very much look forward to the next conversation.

1197
00:49:03,511.99999999953434 --> 00:49:05,092
Go and check out Ket Baker.

1198
00:49:05,092 --> 00:49:06,502
It is awesome.

1199
00:49:06,502 --> 00:49:06,552
Thank you.

1200
00:49:06,552 --> 00:49:08,052
And we'll see you very soon.

1201
00:49:08,052 --> 00:49:08,971.9999999995343
Thank you, gorgeous.

1202
00:49:08,971.9999999995343 --> 00:49:09,971.9999999995343
Thank you.

1203
00:49:09,971.9999999995343 --> 00:49:10,971.9999999995343
Bye bye.

1204
00:49:10,971.9999999995343 --> 00:49:12,692
Cuddle.

1205
00:49:12,692 --> 00:49:13,542
Mwah.

1206
00:49:13,542 --> 00:49:15,230
Oh.

1207
00:49:22,232 --> 00:49:23,692
Hey, Quanta folks.

1208
00:49:23,692 --> 00:49:29,812
I've said it before and I'll say it again, birth is transformational.

1209
00:49:29,812 --> 00:49:34,252
And it can be transformational in the right way and in the not so right way.

1210
00:49:34,252 --> 00:49:39,602
So how do we arm ourselves to be really prepared for this incredible experience?

1211
00:49:39,602 --> 00:49:43,492
Well, you wouldn't go out and run a marathon without any kind of training.

1212
00:49:43,492 --> 00:49:45,332
You'd at least do occasional stretches.

1213
00:49:45,332 --> 00:49:54,471.99999999953434
And the High Vibe Birth course, which is self-paced, available at the quantamama.com website, is available for you.

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You get to luxuriate in all of the ideas and transformational techniques and the beautiful information that can only have a positive effect on your birth.

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So get fit for your birth marathon and head to Quantum Mama for the High Vibe Birth course.