EPISODE 52: ONE YEAR POD-VERSARY Q&A SPECIAL WITH JON AND LISA STEINBERG

In this week's episode of Living in the Sprawl: Southern California's Most Adventurous Podcast, it's our one year pod-versary! Listen as host, Jon Steinberg, and producer/wife, Lisa Steinberg, host special Q & A session filled with listener questions. Get to know the duo behind the Living in the Sprawl podcast!

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Hello listeners and fellow explorers. This is living in the sprawls lovely and talented producer slash wife, Lisa Steinberg. I wanted to thank all of you for your continuous support of the show. As a new podcast on the scene, John and I self-support the logistics and research that go into the show. The number one way to support the show is to rate, review and share this podcast with everyone, you know, Many of you have been doing this and it has helped immensely. I also invite you to check out our website and the show notes for other ways to support the show. We are currently working with companies. We currently use ourselves. To get discount codes for our listeners and support the show in the process. These companies include. Every table, just CBD store, gold belly cats, botanicals, and so much more. By using the links on our website, you are letting them know we sent you an intern, supporting the show. You can also support us on Patrion and pod fan. Please check out the website@livinginthesprawlpodcast.com. For updates on companies we are working with our testimonies links codes and new living in the sprawl merchandise Again thank you to all of you our lovely listeners for tuning in every week and allowing us to do what we love Without further ado you're humble correspondent John steinberg Hello, and welcome to another edition of living in the sprawl. Southern California's most adventurous podcast. I am as always your humble correspondent and host. My name is John Steinberg. Joined by my. Lovely and immensely talented. Producer slash wife. Her name is Lisa Steinberg set to bring you another foray into the grand expansive world. Of Southern California that we lovingly call the sprawl. And this is a special episode. Commemorating a year in the life of a podcast. That's right for our 52nd episode. We're going to be doing something a little bit. Different. We've solicited questions from you. Our wonderful. Audience. In here. You will uncover the answers. I haven't seen the questions. I have no idea what my beautiful wife is going to ask. But we wanted to take this opportunity to thank everyone for all of their support. This has been. A wonderful passion project for the two of us. Allowing us to. Really put into practice. A lot. Of the things that make us smile. That bonded us together. And brought us closer. In the first place. So we've decided on a Q and a episode. And my better half has the questions clutched. In her mitts right now. So without delay a special. 52nd episode of the podcast thanking. All of our beautiful listeners for their years worth of support. Lisa. I call her HB, by the way, I think I've mentioned that in a prior podcast, but it's a little bit weird for me to even call her by her official name, but for. The ease of listening and convenience. I'll break that rule here. So beautiful. Lisa Steinberg. We have some questions. Do we not? We do. And there's a common theme and trend in these questions. So first of all, thank you to all the listeners that DM does send us emails. all kinds of ways you guys send us questions. The common theme and trend was, they wanted to get to know more about our hosts, Jon Steinberg, and his wife, Lisa Steinberg. So this is a little bit of a more personal episode, which I think listeners who have come along with this on this journey will grow to appreciate. So question number one. How did you, Jon Steinberg and Lisa Steinberg come up with the podcast idea. Is there an inspiration behind the name? Oh, the inspiration for the name is easy. It's. Arcade fire the song sprawl to from there immortal Grammy award-winning album, the suburbs, one of my favorite songs of the last 25 years. And, uh, When we launched the podcast. My dear wife. Kept hounding me for names. And I said, just wait, just wait a second. It'll come, the name needs to be organic. And so whilst walking on Ventura Boulevard, it struck me living in the sprawl. So that's where the name comes from. As to the second part of the question. As I've mentioned on an episode here or there. I take very seriously, the concept of influences. So for me. People like braced and Ellis. Jonathan gold. Huell Howser. Julia child. These are legendary. Folks. Who left their mark on the greater Los Angeles area. But I was unable to find any podcasts that really dealt with the parts of Southern California. That were most fascinating. To me, to us in one. Cohesive location. So. I wanted. To consolidate. All of my influences. Into a coherent vision. For how to best experience this magnificent part of the world. So the most popular question that I got, I think. It feels like we've shared this story a lot recently because we just got married as listeners know we got married three weeks ago. But the listeners want to know they have to know How did you and your producer slash wife meet? I feel like you should tell this story. Typically for the listeners. This has come up on double dates. Occasions where we get together with friends. This is a story that we've told quite a lot. And I think it's best. Brought into play. Bye. Elisa Steinberg. And I'll let you add your notes out. Yes. Yes. Yes. So John and I, who I lovingly refer to as be in our relationships. So if you ever hear H BNB. That's where it comes from. We met. W what does that stand for for. Honey bear at. What about the bee, babe? Very good. So we met on just like most people do these days. We met on the great dating app hinge. Our first date. Was at sagebrush Cantina in Calabasas. Now mind you, I always throw this out. He gave me the option of Yamashiro and sagebrush Cantina. And I picked you up. And he said, no, no, no. Let's meet at Sage brush Cantina. Very mediocre food. Tons of bikers. Live music. a lot of dancing play the same song twice. I won't remember the name of the song. We all night long by AC DC. Kids into play twice over the course of two hours. Right. But the conversation was great. I had. A hamburger. And B had a wet burrito. so that's where it started then as we're heading home. He says, Hey, do we pass by Chatsworth by any chance? And I said, sure, we can. If we take the one 18 route and he said, I'm going to play you a podcast. Now, mind you, I live in the San Fernando valley bubble. True crime, not a big passion of mine. Pre meeting B. Now it's become one of, my great interests. And he says, I'm going to play a podcast for you. And it was, you must remember this. Correct. About the Manson family. And so he gives me the, this place. Have you heard of Spahn ranch? No, no idea. We stop and I kind of put it together and I'm like, wow. Did we really just go to spawn ranch and hear about the mass and family on our very first date. But of course we did. We did. Yeah. And it led to a second date and a lot of people will ask, well, why. Uh, that's very not you, but it was interesting and fascinating and intriguing. And I needed to know more about this guy. Who had the audacity. To do that on a first date. Uh, and the second date, he took me to a great restaurant. My favorite food is sushi, and, uh, we went to the Brady bunch house after, and that's where I kinda see like there's there's themes. There's, there's more there's activities. One of our other first dates, I didn't know, E T the scene was in the valley and we went on white Oak. Um, so I just kind of evolved to this. Exploration with every date. And we always saw each other on weekends in the beginning because we lived far from each other. And. That is a story of our first date and full circle. We got married at end of the seven three. and Topanga, which ties into the whole Manson family, squatting, things like that. So if you get to know us, you know, Even just by listening to the podcast history. entertainment, art culture. It all ties in big into our relationship. Anything you want to add? Oh, just that, um, from my vantage point, cause listeners might reasonably wonder. Dude. Why would you take anyone on your first date to spawn ranch? Well, From my vantage point. Um, we had talked on the phone a lot before we actually met. I had a great feeling about things. But I did think, well, you know what, at some point, this has got to come up, so why not now? And you know what. I live in downtown Los Angeles and Chatsworth is not close. So. If this doesn't go the way that I've like, then. Well, At least I got to see Spahn ranch. So taking advantage of being so far away from downtown. Yeah, we, uh, And I didn't even understand at the time that Chatsworth is not on the way back from Calabasas. It's actually on the other side of the valley, but, um, I digress. And, uh, we are almost at our three-year anniversary. And thank goodness, my beautiful wife. Didn't go running. When i brought up the manson family and spahn ranch So now we're going to go into a little bit more sprawl related. Listeners want to know? Is there a common myth about the sprawl? That you'd like to share with them. And I'll start first. I think for me and I am one of those people that again, pre B, thought this. We get so turned off by parking and traffic and. All of these obstacles. That we have to go through to get somewhere in Los Angeles. That sometimes we forget how wonderful it is and how lucky we are to live here. And sometimes with the. Things we hear on the news regarding crime, regarding danger, things like that. A lot of times we shy away from going certain places. I know, and editing the podcast and producing the podcast. John has referenced this many times, be smart about where you go when you go, how you go. What you're doing, don't bring exposure to yourself in certain areas. I have grown to love and I speak on this personally. There are certain areas of Los Angeles that I personally shied away from. But these are the places in south Los Angeles that have the most amazing food, the most culture. just the most amazing spirit. And we have gone there, places that I avoided before places that B goes to regularly by himself. And. It's such a beautiful place and I've grown to love that. And I think that is a common. Myth and misconception about the sprawl in certain areas so. At different points in my life. I've resided outside of the sprawl. I've lived in Arizona. I lived in Tucson for six years. Um, Dallas for two. I did a summer in Chicago. Some are. Anyway. Point being. I've lived outside of the area. And what I've heard. On more than 10 occasions. Is something along the lines of. Oh, wow. Everybody that lives out there is kooky and crazy. And. Who would want to live out there with all that? Ridiculous behavior. And if you get outside, Have a couple areas. They're the ones you're thinking of. Beverly Hills Malibu, west Hollywood. Those are really the three that stand, um, well, Hoya. Del Mar. Parts of Montecito. Uh, but if you really get outside of those, California's massive. The sprawl is massive with a capital in home to. An array of working class people. Who have jobs at schools? Power plants. Catering companies, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. If you venture. Even like 20 miles away from the beach in a certain direction. It's going to feel like an entirely different state. So this image that's broadcast around the world. Thanks to the entertainment industry about Southern California being. All just, everyone's having fun in the sun and sunny, California, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. All of that. That has really no bearing on like life in places such as Riverside, San Bernardino. Baker Barstow. There are far, far, far more. Places. That have little to, nothing to do. With the. Southern California stereotype, then the ones that do. So I remember meeting. I won't say the person's name, but a hall of fame, NFL football coach. Who asked me where I lived and I said, uh, California, Southern California. And his response was. Wow. Well, I guess someone has to live there. I thought, wow. Hm. You've never been to little Saigon. Have you. You're thinking of Malibu, Beverly Hills and west Hollywood. And what a shame. What a shame. To be limited. In that way. That kind of segues a little bit into the next question. what is it? Because you mentioned that you've lived in different cities. You know, in different periods of your life. What is it about the Southern California sprawl in Los Angeles, specifically? That inspired you to explore it too. Make it a place where you're settling roots right now. Oh, it's the new Ellis island. When we think about. Ellis island, that classic image, which comes to mind is of folks filling out immigration papers in a long queue. At a. Station. With the statue of Liberty in the background. A hundred plus years later. There's no centralized locale that I can site. But I will say that Southern California is the modern. Version of Ellis island. It's everything to everyone in all ways at once. Southern California is renowned for being able. To offer folks the chance to go surfing in the morning. And by the afternoon skiing. On the mountains with fresh powder. At a resort in big bear. But if you look outside of that, One of our first episodes was the international enclaves episode. Korea town, Chinatown, little India. Little Arabia, little Italy. Solving. Kingsburg. Thai town. Little Bangladesh, little Ethiopia. Sawtell Japan town, little Tokyo. You can virtually travel around the world without ever leaving the sprawl. And I'm someone, Who was fortunate enough to. Do a lot of traveling when I was in my twenties. So that I don't totally have that. Burning desire where like I have to go here and I have to go there. I'm actually far more interested in, in this. In. Going deep on a specific region. Getting to know that region territory as well as humanly possible. And in the case of the sprawl. Be it. Hearst castle. In the Northern part of our terrain. Or. Oceanside. And the Southern, there are things to appreciate. Highlight celebrate. That really don't exist in this type of way. Anywhere else in the country. Texas is like a second place, but even Texas, they don't have. This international desk fora. That we have here in. The Southern California sprawl. So. For its historical importance. Diversity of populous. Range of experiences and locales. Southern California is the ultimate place to explore in the United States. next question. This is more for you. And I'll tell listeners when we plan our sprawl experiences. John comes up with a lot of the. Content, right. The places, the things to do. I handle more of the logistics. What makes sense. Because the sprawl is so large. We want to make good use of our time. And where we're going, maximize those areas. So I had a lot more of the logistics side. So one of the questions was. take us through your research for planning your sprawl experiences. Okay. So for example, we are contemplating. Uh, Saturday spent. In Santa Barbara this weekend. Well, we haven't covered art museums on the podcast. Haven't been to the art museum in Santa Barbara. So that's of interest. Zoos. We also want to do a show highlighting places where you can interact with wildlife in the sprawl. Wineries. there's like a winery in camera Rio, which is on the way to Santa Barbara. So it's. Thinking down the road in terms of, okay, well, we need to get to 10 in order to have enough content to produce it episode and provide listeners. With useful information. So what. Are some things that we have in mind that we're going to cover on forthcoming episodes of the show. And how best to tap into all of that. Look at the route that you're going. So from. Encino where we reside to Santa Barbara. What are the places that we're going to pass? Okay. What's located. Within the range of places that we're going to pass. What's going to be open. What's practical. To do on a Saturday as opposed to a Friday night. Being smart, having. An actual Rolodex, an actual spreadsheet or multiple spreadsheets of places. Topics things that you want to be crossing off and seeing. I don't literally have spreadsheets. I kind of have a mental spreadsheet of all the stuff. And it's being smart, being as efficient as you can be because there was a point. Where. We would go on dates and I would have this mental list of places that I wanted to see. And they wouldn't necessarily. Be on the same path. So we would find ourselves driving kind of all over and not in any. Cohesive manner that would make sense to anybody. So planning out the logistics. And then yeah, really investing time in. What do we want to see on the next Santa Barbara trip? What do we need to see the next time we find ourselves in camera Rio or Ventura? And remembering that stuff. So that when those trips actually happen, we can craft an efficient killer itinerary. The next set of questions are kind of rapid-fire about you. this one, I'm going to shout out to rose who asked this very specific question. And I thought it was very appropriate. What or who do you credit for creating your love of movies? And when did it start? Oh, that's my dad. When I was a child, my father used to keep a running list. Of all the films that we'd seen together. And even now as a married adult, he'll sometimes still bring it up to me and go. You remember those first five included all over and company the land before time. And Robocop. So there wasn't even really a choice. I was kind of a doctrinated into all that stuff. And then. We don't live in Indiana or Australia. I happened to grow up in Newport beach. 40 miles to the south of Los Angeles. It seemed like. A natural extension of. Growing up. In the shadow of the entire entertainment industry. So as to maximize. Okay. I'm growing up in Southern California. What's the most famous thing. About Southern California from. A, what do we export to the rest of the world standpoint? The entertainment industry. Having the ability to literally go to the studios where productions take place. Experiencing quote, unquote. Hollywood. Because it was just 40 minutes away. From where I grew up. And then there's, I don't think this exists as much with, um, with women, but with men and specifically. Uh, boys growing up. There's kind of a shorthand language that can develop. Based upon. Mutual adoration for stuff everyone's watched. So when I was a kid, the movies of Jim Carrey, dumb and dumber. ACE Ventura. Stuff like caddy shack, swingers. And then kind of getting into later portions of live stuff like old school. All of these were movies. I saw with friends, I talked about with friends and I quoted with friends. Demonstrating. The importance to kind of everyday life. That movie's were to take. At least with me and the people that I know. And movies are a wonderful way. To experience the parts of the world. That you can't see for yourself? I can't. Unlike Marty McFly, get into a DeLorean and head back to 1955, but I can see a facsimile. Of 1955. If I watch. Old Howard Hawks movies. There's this way that characters speak. Think James Cagney in the public enemy. Whether it's this rapid fire, you say C and they talk extremely fast. Well, that doesn't exist now, but it was prevalent. In the America of yesteryear. So in addition, To being a source of bonding between a father and a son or peer group of friends, it's also a way to plug in. To the past the future. Or entirely different communities that you would have no exposure to otherwise. Uh, so that you're learning. I very, very rarely watch anything just based on entertainment. It all kind of fits into a larger database. So. This taxonomy of dramatic films in the vein of an Arthur Miller play, which then in turn. Oh, a lot of credit to Henrik Gibson. It's this long. Seemingly endless path that I. Study. Try to chart. It's never, oh, this is entertaining when they put the song or it's very, very rarely that there's always a reason. Like last night, I watched this movie about the port Arthur massacre in Australia because. That's an area of interest for me. Um, I remember going to Australia learning about that. And when I learned that there was a film. That touched upon. The events that happened in 1996 and Tasmania. Thought. Wow. Well, I remember the people that I met from Tasmania. The. Notions that I had about Tasmania when I was in Australia. And then I've studied that incident. I've studied other incidents in similar veins. So it all kind of links to gather. Rambling. I know, but it was my attempt to adequately address the question. And that you did, Mr. Steinberg. What is your favorite meal in the sprawl? I mean, I'm tempted to say, uh, number 19 from langurs. that's an easy answer of something that. Does it require the equivalent of a mortgage to pay for? In order to have, and that I have had, on. More occasions. And I typically have a food from the same restaurant. Chef Ludo. LA Habra. Has had an outsized impact on. My iteration for. The. Culinary experience in the sprawl. Is rip tasting menu. Establishment. Trois MEC is no longer with us. But Petit trois and Ludo bird. His cooking is some of my favorite, uh, in the entire sprawl. Maybe. Nothing more than the big mic that you can order at either outlet of petite trois, the one in the valley or the one in Hollywood, you can get this. Of noxious tasty. Hamburger that is. A treatise in everything that you should only have to eat once in a calendar year. It's. this thing has to be like 2000 calories, but it's a delightful decadent, 2000 calories. Um, that I'm glad to do at least once a year and then stuff like. Ethiopian food and little Ethiopia. Then we get into kind of the international enclaves and the Chinese food in the San Gabriel valley, little Saigon. A little Arabia. I love Toronto lists and Westwood. Koreatown Chinatown. Sawtelle all of the, uh, international enclave places to. We don't discriminate. against any international food. We love it all here in this household. Yeah. And even the stuff that I used to. Sort of turn my nose up at I've grown to appreciate pokey. fo. Salads. Isn't that novel. Uh, but yes, there's definitely a, leniency. Our, A predilection for international cuisine because we are blessed. With a cornucopia of options when it comes to that here. If you could have a diet beverage and a veal parm sandwich. Listeners. John does not drink coffee and veal parm. It's his favorite food? I don't drink coffee, but I drink, uh, a considerable amount of diet soda. That is true. A lot. But if you could have. And veal Parmesan is my favorite food. Yes. But if you could have a diet beverage and a veal parm sandwich with anyone dead or alive, who would it be? Oh, this is the type of question that. That always gets people thinking maybe a deeper than they ought to. I mean, the answer off the top of my head is Jack Kerouac. Perhaps a. A more thoughtful response might be Jonathan gold. A kind of trivial. Response would be like David Beckam. But only one. But only one. Yeah. I think I'd go with John F. Kennedy. Okay. That would be interesting to me. I don't know much about. JFK's diet. I don't know much about what the man loved to consume. And I really hope it's not, I don't like really boring tuna fish sandwiches. Yeah, so JFK to, to break bread. With John Fitzgerald Kennedy. W. It would be immensely fascinating. Uh, at particularly if all subjects were on the table would love to ask him about Maryland would love to ask him about Frank Sinatra. He'd be a lot of fun. Okay. If you could live anywhere in the world to explore. Money, no object. Where would it be? Here. That was my answer to it. Yeah. I wouldn't want to live anywhere else. Actually. I know, John and I have talked about possibility of, of Dallas in the future and things like that. But when it comes down to it, money, no object. I wouldn't want to go anywhere else. No. I mean really when I say that this is the modern day. Oh, silent. It is. Um, and it's just going to continue to be that as we, so where we live right now, we live in Encino. My father grew up in, uh, west Los Angeles slash kind of Culver city ish area. And when I talked to him about dad, what was Encino? Like, what was the valley like as a kid whose book. Nothing, nothing, nothing was, was out there. there was like, Ranches and. Big old plots of land, but that wasn't an area that you would take seriously. And I feel like in 50 years we might be talking about. Oh, gosh, places like Moore park. It's just, it's just going to continue expanding as the Kardashians have put Calabasas on the map. The more and more people who come here will need more and more places to reside. So the sprawl has no. A stopping point really? Just the places that are not developed now will become developed. I mean, Newport beach, where I grew up. Newport coast did not exist. But we just keep building and building and building things out. And if you drive from, let's say Los Angeles to death valley, you're going to see. Like hundreds of miles of nothingness. Eventually there will be things But outside of here to make kind of the question. Going a different direction. Uh, nowhere in Europe. despite. A lot of great historical buildings. in history. And there's also a lot of really, really, really depressing stuff that I associate with Europe. And, um, so it wouldn't be anywhere in Europe. Um, the language barrier in. Asia would I think be too difficult. to combat. New York, New York. I mean, that's the no, that's a boring answer to. Nope, I guess in the end. It would be New York. Okay. And the state of New York, not New York city, although New York city, I mean the five boroughs and all of everything that. Comes into play there. But yeah, New York state, because that gets us into Buffalo. That gets us into like some weird Amish stuff. That's going on, gets us into the border with Canada and like Niagara falls there there's quite a lot in New York and it is pretty. diverse from one region to another. So. And we've been talking about going there. COVID put a hinder and a lot of our traveling, so. Stay tuned for a special edition perhaps in the future, perhaps. Yeah. So in closing here, what's next for the. Living in the sprawl podcast. Continuing to take our beautiful, wonderful listeners. Into. Different situations, different sets of experiences. In different ways that can help them to better. Acquaint themselves with the sprawl. So. If you can think of it. I've probably thought of it, to be honest, uh, In terms of things that we should cover on the show. Stuff that we feel our listeners would enjoy. Something we enjoy. Uh, I mean, down the road, what I've loved to do would be to take this concept and broaden it out. Two. The Northern part of the state, perhaps, because I have lived. in Northern California. two other states like Arizona, where I've also lived. To Texas where I've also lived. but that would be down the road. We could. Seriously do living in the sprawl, Southern California, his most adventurous podcast forever. And I wouldn't run out. We wouldn't run out of stuff to cover. Are there any projects that you are currently working on outside of the sprawl? And anything else that you want to share with our listeners? I host a podcast called visionaries, uh, that. Concerns the disabled community. It's a deeply held passion of mine. I'm working with that community on, on behalf of that community. So, my other podcast is called visionaries. cooking up a narrative podcast about the 1994 Northridge earthquake. because that is an event that I didn't truly understand as a kid growing up in Newport beach. But now residing in the San Fernando valley. it's so instrumental. To the history of the region and maybe a precursor of something that'll happen at some point down the road. so yes, definitely I've got a narrative podcast cooking. For the future. I have written. A number of books. Um, screenplays. And, uh, at some point. I do see returning to that. But. Podcasting is where it's at at the moment. this didn't exist for authors. Scribes of yesteryear. It's much easier to ask a person. To slap on. A pair of headphones. And listen to an episode of a podcast as opposed to needing, to carve out specific time, to sit in a quiet room. So as to comb through the pages of a physical book, I'm interested in storytelling. However. I can do it however we can do it. As a really young person. That was the thing I love the most stories. That's what I wanted to get the best at. Being a storyteller. So telling stories. That resonate with our wonderful, gorgeous audience. That's a, that's what we've got to look forward to. Yes. And I'm just going to gloat on my husband a little bit. He does all of these episodes from memory, the time and research that he puts into. What we do the content for this podcast. Everything he does. He does it wholeheartedly and he does it with intent and with passion. And so listeners, I want you to know that he truly loves this. He loves doing this for you guys. He loves doing it for him and I, it has become. Our thing to do together. Um, it's brought us together to what made us fall in love. And back to visionaries. I had the honor of being on that show when we first got married three weeks ago. So please. Right now you can find it on Spotify. It's called visionaries. Listen to it. It's great. Gives you another side of your humble correspondent and host. And the work that he's doing, it's amazing. And I'm just so ecstatic to be a part of it. And this really is going to be an enterprise. if we have anything to do with it, that's for sure. So that's going to do it for another episode. We want to thank all of our listeners who send in their questions. This episode was a little bit fun for me to be on it, to be able to ask you questions a little bit more personal with our listeners instead of so factual, even though that's the way the podcast goes, I thought this would be great for our one-year pod versary. To do with the listeners. And as a thank you for being loyal listeners. We are releasing. All of our bonus episodes that you can currently find on Patrion on the apple subscription platform. So we're launching that with this episode. So right after you hear this. You can definitely hear our episodes on best pizza sandwiches. Pancakes. Fish markets. Markets that's right. So we're doing a free seven day trial. So if you like what you hear, you can sign up to hear additional bonus episodes that we'll be putting out at least once or twice a month. We're going to try to do that a little bit more frequently. Uh, you can also find us on Patrion if you liked that platform as well. You can email us@livinginthesprawlpodcastatgmail.com and you can find us on Instagram at living in the sprawl podcast. Please message us, write us, let us know what we're doing. Well, let us know what you want to hear so that we can work on it on future episodes. Also, you can check out our website, living in the sprawl podcast.com for news merchandise. All the other ways to support the show and to contact us. So with that. We're going to wrap things up here. On yet a nother episode of living in the sprawl, Southern California's most adventurous podcast. Until next time