"God's Parenting"| Episode #72 | Builder of All Things | Author’s Cut: Chapter Four w/ Richie Breaux

Welcome to the Builder of All Things Podcast—where we go beyond the pages of the book and explore into the Author’s Cut! 🔥 Join Richie Breaux and Ray Bisnar as they break down each chapter in micro-episodes, giving you the behind-the-scenes insights, deeper wisdom, and real-life applications—just like a Director’s Cut for a book.

What Steve Jobs Taught Me About Vision, Setbacks, and God’s Timing 🍎✨
In this episode, we dive deep into the story of a man who started in a garage and ended up changing the world—Steve Jobs. But this isn’t just a tech story. It’s a conversation about calling, perspective, and what it means to be shaped by setbacks.
From the early days of floppy disks and Oregon Trail to the rise of smartphones and artificial intelligence, I share how watching the evolution of Apple mirrored the journey many of us take—starting small, dreaming big, getting knocked down… and then being positioned for something greater.
We talk about how Jobs was let go from his own company, and how that painful moment ended up being part of God's bigger plan—preparation, parenting, and then positioning. I share personal reflections on failure, missed opportunities, and the quiet work God does behind the scenes when it feels like everything is falling apart.

🔹 What I learned from the rise, fall, and return of Steve Jobs
🔹 Why your “firing” might actually be divine preparation
🔹 The power of curiosity, creativity, and God's fatherly guidance
🔹 A fresh take on how setbacks might be shaping your purpose

"Getting fired from Apple was the best thing that ever happened to me." – Steve JobsThat quote hits different when you see it through the lens of God's hand on your life.
Because when you're walking with the Lord, even being “let go” is part of the plan.Even touching the hot stove has purpose.Even the silence… is sacred.
Whether you're building something from scratch or wondering if God still sees you, this episode will remind you: He’s not just preparing you. He’s parenting you. And soon—He’ll position you.

Chapters

• 0:00 Steve Jobs: From Garage to Apple
• 1:54 The Evolution of Technology
• 3:16 Being Fired from Your Own Company
• 5:35 Preparation and Parenting from God
• 8:25 Learning Through Divine Positioning
• 10:30 The Hot Stove Lesson of Life

Transcript

Speaker 1: 0:18

steve jobs is mentioned in here in the beginning of portion um, and Steve Jobs was a visionary, uh, from my perspective. Um, I'm a fan of Apple products and whatnot, but, um, his story is kind of kind of nuts man. It's kind of from the ground up working in the garage, kind of deal. Um, yeah, talk about that portion for a little bit yeah, I mean, I was born in the 80s.

Speaker 2: 0:43

uh, you know my my teenage years was in the 90s, so computers were just kind of being revealed and shared with us. I remember the first time a computer was really as a resource for us in high school um, we would go into the library to try the internet and stuff. Actually, even before that, I think, when I was in grade school, I remember they had us play this game Maybe you might help me on this one, michael but it was like Oregon Trail. Does that sound right? Oregon Trail?

Speaker 2: 1:16

Oh see yeah, we used to play Oregon Trail. That was like the game man. Just the fact that we could play games at school, right? So my dad, he was a entrepreneur, businessman, small businesses, and we had an apple computer at home and we had games like dig dug. You remember dig dug?

Speaker 2: 1:34

no, I'm looking at michael, because I know he's he's same, same same organ trail is kind of like my yeah so, um, yeah, it was just, uh, you know, just seeing the evolution of computers all the way to when phones came out, smartphones and all these things. Man, it's just like I love history, like my mother, she loves history, and I bring her up because I noticed she always liked the background story of things, and so I'm the same way, like still to this day when I watch a movie, in the middle of the movie, I'm on my phone and Tiff will look like man.

Speaker 2: 2:13

Why are you on your phone? I want to know like where they produced the movie, where is it actually?

Speaker 2: 2:17

being shot, like you know, like where's the actor today? Like I just start going on this history journey. So, um, yeah, with the steve jobs, you know, just looking at the history of the evolution of gosh, computers and smartphones and I mean today it's so revolutionary. You know, it's always it's always interesting to look at the history of like where this origin was, like, where did this actually birth and how did it come to be. And so there's movies out now with Steve Jobs, and I think that's where what I love about movies is it really introduces you to a story, visually right. And so those movies started my history journey with Steve Jobs.

Speaker 2: 3:02

But I'm a big fan of just, you know, somebody taking a small idea and and see how far you can take it and then being successful, meaning being able to actually be impactful with what you do. It was so impactful still to this day. I mean just what we see with even ai on phones. I mean this is like the evolution just continues and continues. So, um, yeah, I, I, uh, I was a big fan of the origin and the history of the evolution of smartphones and Apple and stuff. So, yeah, he was someone I always looked to as a business entrepreneur, and then his story in general too is just very crazy.

Speaker 1: 3:44

Yeah, so I was reading that and you mentioned that, because this chapter is about stepping into your calling and with Steve Jobs, he I don't know if he got fired or he left Apple for a little bit. Yeah, you got to let go, man. You got to let go From your own company. How is that even possible, bro? I think Just majority of the shareholders.

Speaker 2: 4:03

Yeah, there gets a point where if you grow and you start, you know you incorporate and you get to a certain level and you got to spread out your investments and people and, um, co-owners, and there's you have a certain percentage in the company and you got to kind of do that to take some leaps, or at least it was a learning curve for him yeah and there was a point where you know they, they let him go and he was outvoted and you're out of your own company.

Speaker 2: 4:28

you know, and I I don't forget the reason. I don't know if the movies movies were fully true, but whatever the case may be, man, I can't imagine like working because a company is like a baby, sure. So you were just sharing with me before like how you feel that anxiety with your baby.

Speaker 2: 4:47

That's the same feeling entrepreneurs feel with the company that they're building for a purpose. Right, feeling entrepreneurs feel with with the company that they're building for a purpose. Right, because it's not about just the profit or free time, because we're passionate and want to be impactful with what we're doing and want it to be purposeful. So, when we're pouring all our energy, there is no time off, there is no energy. You know, it's like, yeah, you're pouring everything in your, your, your shaping and creating and forming, and, and trying to get this product or or service to a certain point to be impactful. And I can't imagine you.

Speaker 2: 5:21

You get into a certain plateau and you have so much more vision and want to keep forming and and, and then all sudden, like your, your colleagues or those who are in partnership with you in the vision that's supposed to be from the origin, say, hey, man, you're going way out of the creative zone. Like we're trying to stay on earth, you're in the moon. You know what I mean. Like we're not trying to hit the moon, we're trying to serve the earth, you know? And so you're out of here, man.

Speaker 1: 5:51

That's great and, um, I think the perspective thing is coming back, but I it seems like it's. It's all over this book, which is kind of one of the bigger pictures. But, um, on the book it says, uh, when he left, or when he got fired says getting fired from apple was the best thing that could ever happen to me. The heaviness of being successful was replaced by the lightness of being a beginner. That's kind of nuts, because it's almost like you just let go of all the expectations and you you get back to what you originally love yeah, and that's that's part of like see, god starts preparation with us.

Speaker 2: 6:26

It's kind of like what I was just talking about with the company he starts preparation with us in your mother's womb it it says in scriptures, right, he's already preparing, molding, forming and creating. And as you're born and you're going through life, he's kind of shaped. He's doing the same thing, like I was just talking with the company. Right, he's just shaping and doing all these things. And there are points in life all of us go through that are super challenging. We lose somebody very close with us to death, we navigate stress or anxieties or worries that come along and force us to do things. We make bad decisions in life that kind of have us decourse and do certain things. So as we're going through this path, god's continuously molding us and doing things. And then there's this point where he lost what he was pushing for and this is how God, as he was preparing us through life, he also is parenting us now, and so what he was doing with Steve was he was parenting him. It's like a parent You're a parent, you have a child, and they're trying to put their hand on the stove and it's hot, but then they get a little cocky and give you a little attitude and like, no, you know, and still try to put their hand on the stove. And sometimes I gotta feel the burn to know, like that's why, right, you can't put your hand on the stove. So, yeah, I think it was one of those things where if we were to like look at it from a multiverse view and say, say, steve were to stay in the company, this is what would have happened and we could see the end. That's like the whole point of this book is like we can't see the end all the time, but like if we could, like see the end, you would look back and say, yes, thank you for taking me to the right. And that's what happened with steve.

Speaker 2: 8:11

I think he had this understanding afterwards, like I had to be let go. Yeah, yeah, you know what I mean. Like sure, I did, and and it put him in a place where he did exactly what you said. He let go of all this stuff. And so, as we're going through life, there's certain areas, man, that you know, when I didn't go to the NFL or I didn't, you know, succeed in finishing college, you know I could look back and say, yes, those were personal failures, but I think God allowed those to pan out because I needed to suffer with those kind of losses to go through the path that he needed me to go through. And now when I look back it's like, oh man, and so I think he got let go in 1985. And he didn't come back till about 1997. So that's 12 years man.

Speaker 1: 9:02

I can imagine what his thoughts were, because you don't know that after 12 years you'll be back, but the stress and the unknowing of, or the unknown of, what's going to happen next, or is that even in your heart, to try to get back to your company, or you know what I mean it seems heavy on the mind. Um, I think he let go.

Speaker 2: 9:22

I don't know for sure, but I think he I want to say he let go and just created new companies. You know, pixel. You know next something? You know he just started building other companies and just kept going with his calling and his purpose. He knew what it was. Yeah Was to innovate to create, you know. Knew what it was yeah was to innovate to create, you know. And so, as he was being parented, once you go from preparation to parenting, that was positioning and that's what god needed to do.

Speaker 2: 9:51

He needed, he wanted him back at apple. He knew what he was going to do with him, but he had to position him, yeah, right in the perfect spot, his heart in the perfect spot, and that's when he got let back in, was when that time and God's time all aligned.

Speaker 1: 10:05

And now it was like boom, two streams, just boom.

Speaker 1: 10:10

I love that, the parenting aspect, because you know, when I watch Zozo, uh, I take her walking and stuff and like um, I'm aware of what's on her left or what's on her right If there's a bike coming behind us or whatnot.

Speaker 1: 10:25

But when the time comes I slowly, if a bike's coming on the right side and she's walking towards that, I'll slowly come in and kind of like gently lean her to the left, knowing that there's something coming here. But that verse you mentioned here is I will instruct you and teach you in the way you should go. I will counsel you with my and this is what I circle my loving eye on you. And it's like I'm doing it because I love her and I don't want the bad things to be in proximity of her. And it's almost like that stove thing where it's like you know you want to tell your kid no, but at the same time it's like they're just that this curiosity is innate in them, where you know they need to find out for some reason, and sometimes you just got to let them honestly, just let them touch the hot stove. Sometimes we learn that way, you know.

Speaker 2: 11:15

I think like that as an adult. I'm like man. I don't want to be the kid touching the hot stove, like you know, I understand we God allows things, but I want to use wisdom, now, you know, to say okay, because you said so. That's all I need.