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KNOW DUMB QUESTIONS FT MacKenzie Price |: Founder of 2HourLearning
Join us on an educational journey as we introduce you to an inspiring educator MacKenzie Price who is reshaping the way we think about learning. Frustrated with obsolete teaching methods, she founded her own school in 2014, emphasizing personalized learning and fostering a genuine passion for education. Her story, shared a glimpse into how innovative teaching approaches are poised to revolutionize the educational landscape over the next decade.
Venture into the heart of Brownsville, Texas, where a private school is defying the odds with a groundbreaking Two Hour Learning program. Alpha School provides personalized education that includes unique activities like mountaineering and international projects. Our conversation explores the triumphs of this model and its potential expansion to charter schools, aiming to offer free education to millions of students. Through this, we hope to bridge educational gaps and inspire institutions worldwide to follow suit.
In a world increasingly driven by technology, we explore how AI and digital platforms like Instagram and YouTube are challenging traditional education systems. Imagine a classroom where AI tutors handle curriculum delivery, freeing educators to inspire and support students emotionally. Together, we envision a transformative educational model blending technology-driven learning with sports and performing arts, nurturing a well-rounded development environment. Listen as we share our passion for innovation, adaptability, and the curiosity-driven future of education.
We are live for real. Live like sitting in my car at JFK's airport. Live Really excited about this evening. Have a cool guest that I am very excited to introduce to some of you. I'm going to make sure I have. There we go. What's happening? Is it Keneal? What's happening, caneel? So, yeah, this is our newest school. What's up, gerard? This is our newest school. Capital Prep, new Rochelle, new Rochelle, new York. Super excited about that.
Speaker 1:But tonight we're going to have a really cool conversation with an educator who I've seen on the internet and you know, you never know when you see things on the internet. Like you know, sometimes you see recipes on the internet and you give them a shot and they don't work out. And then sometimes you try a workout that you saw on the internet and it does work out. Who knows what you see on the internet? Not always what it is in person, in reality, I should say. However, tonight I'm very excited to have a conversation about an educator, with an educator who's working to revolutionize education.
Speaker 1:The challenges that we face in education are real. We are trying to find a way to educate today's children with yesterday's information. We're using strategies and techniques that come from generations gone by. If you look at a school from 1636, which is around the time that the first school was opened in, first public school was opened in Boston, massachusetts. Hey, hey, I see you, ms Price, give me a shot again. Hold on, we're going to invite you again. If you look at the way schools were run, here she goes, here she goes.
Speaker 2:Hello, up, hold on Now, I can't hear you just a second. All right, all right, there I have you. Now I've got you back. Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1:I'm having the time of my life. How about you? I'm doing great. Thanks for having me. It is my pleasure, it is really my pleasure. I was saying, as you were coming in, that I've seen your work on the internet and you know, as somebody who's taken a couple of recipes off the internet, they don't always work. So I wanted to get, I wanted to meet you, because you're doing some things that I'm sure are inspiring some people and making other people really uncomfortable. Let's talk about your educational journey, and forgive me, I am in a parking lot. I'm at JFK, going to. I just want to make sure that I. This conversation is so important.
Speaker 2:Hey, nothing like multitasking. One of the life skills we teach our children is to be adaptable and to be able to iterate and roll with the punches, and it seems like you're doing that, so you've learned that skill.
Speaker 1:Thank you, so talk to me about how you came into education, and then we're going to talk about the work that you're doing.
Speaker 2:Sure, well, I'll start at the very beginning, which is that I was a great student growing up, but I hated school. I was one of those kids who knew how to play the game and make school happen, but I was also that student who would be raising my hand, going like why do I need to know this? And like what's the point of this? I'm never going to be doing anything in this area, so why do I have to learn it? And you know, fast forward many years, when I grew up, I had two daughters of my own. It was time to send them to school.
Speaker 2:My husband and I were both products of public school education and had been successful students, right, and so we sent them to our local school. And then, pretty quickly, we were finding ourselves frustrated because there was just no ability to provide a personalized experience for our children. You know work in a classroom every day because they were trying. But what we kind of ultimately realized was the model of one teacher in front of a classroom with 20, 25, 30 kids. It just isn't conducive to meeting every single student where they're at and inspiring this love of school and a love of being challenged. And about halfway through my daughter's second grade year, my daughter said to me I'm so bored in school and I just realized I don't want her to follow down the path that I did of just being the student who does it which, by the way, think of all the students that check out and just say you know what I'm out Like, screw this, I'm not doing this, you know they learn to play the game, or they kind of check out. And I knew we couldn't do it.
Speaker 2:And for me, it wasn't about a public school versus a private school, it was about that model of education, and I realized, you know it doesn't work and it's time to change that.
Speaker 2:I didn't see anything in my community that was going to hit the balance that I wanted, and so I decided to take matters into my own hands and I started my own school, and that was in 2014. And now fast forward to 2024. We are in the most exciting time when it comes to education. The next 10 years are going to disrupt the education industry, which is well in need of it, and it's a great time to be a parent who is focusing on what to do with their kids. We've got multiple schools across different states and we're continuing to expand, and it's all based on this idea that kids can love school. They can crush their academics in only a couple of hours a day as opposed to spending all day sitting at a desk in a classroom and they can learn life skills during the rest of the day, which is what's really critical when it comes to preparing our young people to go out and be successful in the world.
Speaker 1:One of the things that I want to get to the school that you started in a minute. I want to get there in a minute, but before I do that, I want to take a step back. Chief, I'm in, take a step back, not chief, I'm in the middle of something. Sorry, the internet is real. So you decided to do something different. In public education, we are hamstrung by which state you're in first, how big the unions are. Second, absolutely how big the physical, the investment is in the physical buildings of the community and, ultimately, how many people work in that industry. In most cities, your neighborhood public school is the largest employer writ large it is, it is the bedrock of the community.
Speaker 2:There is so much more that goes into a school besides just educating children. It is hugely responsible for economics of many communities and it is the social hub for many families. So there's no question I mean schools are critical. It is the most important thing, and certainly public schools. They are beasts and there's a reason they're beasts.
Speaker 1:So you saw headwind. I saw it too. You hit headwind when you started to expand. But I want to talk to you about why the headwind came. Because your model is very intriguing. Came because your model is very intriguing, um, and I want to give you an opportunity to explain it.
Speaker 1:But for most of us, when we think of school, we think of a building that you can go to. There's a teacher in the class. If you're in K to 6, in many places it's one teacher teaching you every subject, with the exception of specials where they come and take you out for gym or for art, and that one teacher does this all day for 22, 26, whatever kids Teaches them, if they're in kindergarten, how to tie their shoes, wipe their nose, wipe whatever kids teaches them if they're in kindergarten how to tie their shoes, wipe their nose, wipe their behinds, count, read, sing, dance, whatever it is that they do. That's the traditional model, yes. And then, if they get once they're in middle school, they may get five teachers who will teach them five or six or seven core subjects five typically, with again the special being maybe art and music or something like that. And then high school is the same thing Rinse and repeat yes, that's what. When we think of school, that's school.
Speaker 2:Most people and add more homework, starting in, you know, first, second grade. Let's add some night work to do in addition to the six hours of sitting in class.
Speaker 1:You looked at that and you said what your model's going to do, what?
Speaker 2:Uh, we realized that you don't need six hours of sitting in academic classes in order to not just do academics but crush academics, and that means that every single child is being met exactly where they need to be with regard to level and pace of curriculum. Kids can get a mastery-based education, as opposed to the traditional model, which is time-based. It means everybody moves through the material at the same pace, and if you're one of those kids who already knows the material too bad, you got to sit and twiddle your thumbs and hang out. If you're lucky, maybe you can read a book in the corner while you're waiting for the class to catch up. Or if you're one of those kids who, after learning the concept, it's still going right over your head Too bad. The train's leaving, you got to keep up right, and so that's part of what it's doing.
Speaker 2:And so we realized that we could use technology to do what it's great at, which is create this one-to-one mastery-based approach that's totally personalized.
Speaker 2:It gives every single kid their own personal tutor. And then let's take the humans, the teachers, and allow them to do what they do best, which is not create lesson plans, grade papers and homework and lecture, it's have intentional and concentrated human connection For us. We call our adults guides, and their sole job is motivational and emotional support to connect with every single kid to find out what's their why, what do they get excited about and how can we use that to motivate them to do well in academics and to teach them life skills, things like financial literacy and public speaking and teamwork and grit and leadership and socialization. All of those things are really critical for our young people, and we knew that by delivering education in this personalized way, with an AI tutor, our kids can learn in only two hours a day and our classes are in the top 2% in the country. Right, I would argue there are no other schools that are delivering the kind of academic results we are doing. Plus, they get the opportunity to do all these fun workshops in the afternoon.
Speaker 1:One of the things that you mentioned is that you're measuring student performance on mastery, not Carnegie units, not time. I think most people don't realize that when you go to college, you get X number of hours, right, you get certain hours, and in order to graduate from high school, you have to have certain hours, otherwise known as credits. But you and your schools are not using hours as your unit of measurement. You're using mastery of the subject. Talk about that please.
Speaker 2:Well, our kids are still in school all day, right, and public schools have requirements. They have seat time requirements. There's a lot of hurdles that public schools require to jump through. We're still able to hit that. We're hitting the same curriculum that traditional schools are teaching. We're just able to do it in less time. And if you think about a typical class with, you know, 50 minutes of math, in that 50 minutes there's probably gosh, I would argue less than 15 minutes of actual, you know, new information. That's being done and so we can just make this so much faster. So our students are still in school all day. They're just they're learning. They're learning academics so much faster and and that's what we're able to do.
Speaker 2:And really, when you think about it, you know in fact, I just had this stat. I should pull it up because it's incredible. You know, the average grade level subject takes something to the effect of oh, let's see. I'm going to pull this up because it really is an interesting idea. It's this idea that, yeah, so generally a lot of kids can get a subject done for a grade in somewhere between 20 to 50 hours, right, but traditional schools spend a minimum of 180 hours, right, that's an hour a day over 180 days, you know, on this, and so when you think about how much time we can do, that's why our students, when they're able to go at their own pace, they're able to do multiple grade levels in one year, as opposed to hey, you're a fifth grader, you're going to do fifth grade content until May and then you'll move on to sixth grade the next year and you'll move on to sixth Grade whether you know the fifth grade content or not, which is where we lead to a lot of trouble, and this is where kids start to not like school.
Speaker 2:Because here's the thing if you don't understand the material that you're learning, it's not fun. If I were put in a medical school class, I would be like I have no idea what's going on. This is miserable, right, but if you provide kids with basically the ability to be competent in their learning, that's what develops confidence and that's what makes kids go. You know what I can learn. I can put my mind to anything I want and I can do well on that.
Speaker 1:So, tomorrow how many schools do you have now?
Speaker 2:We've got eight schools in Texas and Florida and then we're opening other schools across states and we're also working on breaking into the public school system. I saw a comment on there I don't know if that person is Salon. That said, I wish your schools weren't so expensive. I agree, I am working diligently to provide a free option which requires public support we're gonna get to that in a sec.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I do think it's super important. I think most people, even the most ardent teachers union boss, would acknowledge that delivering education in the same way that we delivered it in 1635 is probably in need of a and if we look at the intuition of children, when they want to learn something, they google it, they find a youtube of it and they learn it and, and sometimes a fraction of the time, it was expected. Khan Sal Khan was doing a lot of this work, initially with Khan Academy, using technology to teach children sometimes very complicated children and adults, very complicated concepts. How are your you mentioned your kids are in the top 2%. How are your kids doing academically compared to the children in Texas and Florida?
Speaker 2:Oh, my goodness, I've got a chart that compares how our students do compared to public schools in Texas and I'm telling you it would blow your socks off, compared to the best school district in Texas, which happens to be right down the street. In fact, it's the school district that my kids were going to when they were in kindergarten and first and second grade. Our students are beating every single demographic on there. I'm going to do something that's going to blow your mind even more. We have a campus in Brownsville, texas.
Speaker 2:In Brownsville, texas, half of our student body comes from family incomes of less than $40,000 a year. Many of them are Latino or minority. Brownsville has the second worst school district in the country right, it's a very poor school district. So a lot of times, the students that come from Brownsville has the second like worst school district in the country right, it's a very poor school district. So a lot of times, the students that come from Brownsville into our school are performing at lower levels.
Speaker 2:Our kids in Brown provide every single student with exactly the level of information they need and make sure that you're filling holes where they don't understand concepts. That's where you can get incredible academic performance, and I fundamentally believe that children are limitless and it's our job as a school to build an environment that helps them unlock that potential. You know and we think about, you know, schools. They talk about the buildings and the facilities and the things that we do, and one of the things I always say it's not about the building, it's about what happens inside the building to really unlock these kids' potential, and we have the ability to do that. One of the things that's really interesting about our schools as a private school, we don't only accept students that have certain grades or, you know, have to take IQ tests or any of that. We can take a student wherever they're at and we can get those kids moved up when we give them that mastery education.
Speaker 1:Because of the individualized learning plans that you're putting together. A lot of folks have a lot of questions, so I'm going to pull some of those up and then we're going to keep going because I I am fascinated by this and and I would and to be very honest with you, we run charter schools and before that ran a magnet school inside the public school system in in new york and connecticut and we're choked out by the system. If, if we could turn our charters away, give them the charter and just run as private schools, I would, because what we learn, what we know now about the way children need to be taught, and what we do now to teach them are so far apart that it's actually embarrassing. It's actually disingenuous, because we shouldn't be surprised that children come home and say they didn't learn anything today, because they probably didn't. But one of the questions that was asked first was what is the name of your school?
Speaker 2:So the program, the academic program that we have, is called Two Hour Learning and we are implementing two hour learning in a variety of different schools and one of our schools that's kind of what we've become known for. It's the very first school that I started. It's called Alpha School. Now, alpha School is redefining what parents should expect from their child's private school experience. It is an expensive school and here's what I will say to people who say gosh, your school is so expensive. You know what they have. You know we have the ability to provide a school experience where our kids are getting to do things like mountaineering, survival workshops, and then they get to go test their skills out on a camping experience in Colorado or fly to Poland to train Ukrainian refugees on how they can learn with two-hour learning. There's opportunities like that. So we have alpha schools in Texas and Florida and we're also expanding those across the country, and those are private. Those are private schools and, like I said, they're expensive. Tuition is $40,000, $50,000 a year, which I will say is actually not as high as a lot of private schools are, and I know a lot of people don't see that. But you go to places where they're $60,000, $70,000. But I'm not going to try and argue that they're not high price.
Speaker 2:We also have opened other schools based on to our learning model. We have a sports academy where kids get to do sports and physical activity and play, capture the flag and you know kickball as well as do things like negotiate their major league baseball contract and then write their press release announcing their Nike collaboration, learn life skills through things that they're interested in. We have a gifted and talented school. It's called GT School. That school actually is the only school where we do have an admission requirement for GT kids.
Speaker 2:We also have another school called NextGen, and those schools are at a lower price point. They're at $25,000 a year. I'm also working on a model of school that's gonna be at $15,000 a year, and then I've been working on getting into the charter market, which, as you said, dr Steve, the charter market is a weird spot and it's tough to break in there, but if we can do that, it will enable free tuition for students. And here's the thing I believe that this model of education can impact millions of students, and my job is to go out and build this distribution system and help more and more students gain access to it.
Speaker 1:You mentioned, I saw something that you posted. I've been following you for a while. I'm surprised, thank you.
Speaker 2:That's so nice of you. I appreciate that. Yeah, I'm, you know. Future of education. One of the things that I've really worked on doing with my Instagram account, my YouTube and my podcast is I want to help families just really get inspiration and understanding that there is another option for their child. They can find a place where their child can really thrive, and so I love hearing from people like you that say, yes, I want to. I want to get this message out, as opposed to kind of people being, I don't know, maybe hopeless or just thinking you know what the only option I have is the one down the street.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I am a pure, a pure. I'm a purist on school choice. I know that one type of school does not work for every child. I know that some kids want to go to a big high school where they can do friday night lights and then go to the prom and they can uh, you know have homecoming. I know some kids want to do that. I know some kids want to do that. I know some kids want to do small homes, small schools, home schools, and those are just the delivery systems and I think that's an important point you made. That's just how it's delivered.
Speaker 1:The what inside, I believe, is also different. I believe that children I know that children what may have worked for them when they were little may not work when they get a little older. Boys may have worked for them when they were little may not work when they get a little older. Boys and girls may learn differently depending upon the boy or the girl. There's so many different ways in which we should approach education that the current model should, on some level, embarrass those of us who call ourselves educators, that we keep doing it this way, that we keep building schools that, by the time they're constructed, are outdated for the children for whom they're being elected.
Speaker 2:Totally understand. At the same time, I'll tell you what educators are heroes, right? People who choose to spend their careers in a classroom with kids. You know they really are. They're saints, and part of what's so challenging. Not only are teachers, they're underpaid, they're overworked and they're underappreciated, but they've been set up to fail in this model and system. And so that's the other thing, and I saw someone Manny Forrest said who teaches the kids.
Speaker 2:What we've done in our model is we have taken that role of the teacher and we have transformed it into motivation and emotional support to allow those adults who choose to spend time with children to do what they got into the business to do, which is positively impact kids.
Speaker 2:Right, and when a teacher has time to get to know students and understand what are they challenged by? What's happening at home, what are the things they're interested in and how can we use those things to motivate them? That's where the magic happens. So, to be clear, my two-hour learning program. It's phenomenal with regard to the AI tutor that's providing the teaching. But critical to the model is that human element, and what we've done is we've just taken humans and allowed them to focus on what only they can do best. Right, let's use the AI tutor to deliver the curriculum and the knowledge for every single kid which, by the way, the AI tutor does do a better job than a teacher to 20 plus students. Right, even a teacher to five students, it does better. And then let's, let's allow people to really raise that human intelligence illuminators.
Speaker 1:Um, you, you, um. One of the points you bring up is that even teaching five children is more difficult than teaching one child, and if anyone has ever had more than one child of their own in their house, they know that their the kids are different. They could be born from the same mom and dad, live in the same house, sometimes even share the same room, sometimes they have the same bed, and they're just different. They're just different. So you're saying that you're providing an individualized learning plan. One of the questions that came up was can people, can teachers, come visit your school?
Speaker 2:So you know we have been so fortunate that there's been so much interest in, you know, the school model that we're building and the things that our kids are able to do and what our high school graduates are accomplishing, that we've had a lot of, you know, a lot of interest, which I love. At the same time, you know, first and foremost, my priority is always to those kids that are in the building and making sure that we're delivering our commitments, which is that kids will love school, they'll learn twice as fast and only two hours a day, and they'll learn life skills. So, as a result, we're very um limited in, you know, touring and having people in, because that can be a distraction. Now, that said, it's part of the reason that I've spent so much time delivering content in terms of videos and being able to show things. So, for example, I get asked all the time what exactly is your two-hour learning product like? What does it look like? What's the experience like? How is it? And so I created a video that is like an academic deep dive into what two-hour learning is, how it works, why it works, what our results are across all different demographics, kids who have learning differences, kids who are advanced, kids who are behind kids, kids who are behind kids from low SES backgrounds, kids from kindergarten all the way through high school, and it literally shows, like here's what the experience looks like. We also do a ton of content that way.
Speaker 2:So the long answer is that it is challenging to get an in-person tour at our school, but I want to shed a light wherever possible, and so we have so much content, you know, on future of education on my Instagram, on my YouTube channel, as well as on the twohourlearningcom website, because what I want to do is I want to help that teacher who's in Austria or New Zealand or, you know, chicago. I want to help them get ideas for ways that they can start to make a difference in how they are going about their classroom. And I'll tell you that's the other thing about AI. There are so many schools that have outlawed the use of AI right, or teachers who say let's not do that, and one of the other things that we do.
Speaker 2:Not only are we using, you know, ai to deliver academics, but we're also teaching our students how to use AI to give them superpowers, not to cheat, but to help them improve, and that, right there is a skill that we have to deliver to our young people. They need to know how to use these tools to help them be even better at whatever it is they go out to do in their jobs, and why not start that now? So, for example, we start that young. We have our kindergarten and first graders doing public speaking exercises that are really fun, and we use AI to provide coaching and feedback on that. We help kids who are maybe nervous to speak in front of an audience. They get to start by speaking in a small group and then getting feedback from their AI coach.
Speaker 2:Right, there's tons of things that we can do to use AI. We have students who are working on their businesses. Our third and fourth graders, you know, have to work on businesses and they create their business plans and then they use an AI tool to give them feedback. One of the things we always say with our students is their first iteration is never their final product. They can always figure out ways to make things better, and so we're using, you know, ai tools to help give these kids these superpowers, and that's some of the things that I think educators and parents who may never set foot in one of my schools can still say you know what? This is something I can take away and this is something that I can go and implement in my classroom or in my family's home to help my child.
Speaker 1:You attempted to open charter schools in a couple states so far.
Speaker 2:And it's been a bloodbath.
Speaker 1:Let's talk about that what's been the problem and it's been a bloodbath.
Speaker 2:Let's talk about that. What's been the problem? You know it's interesting. There's what they say is the problem and then there's maybe what could be underlying, right? And so I'll give you an example. We have applied for virtual charter status and we've got like 26 states that we've got some form of application in, like 26 states that we've got some some form of application in, and we've gotten rejected by so far all the states that we've gone in front of a charter board for, and what they have said is we don't believe that there's demand for a virtual program, which I don't agree with, because people are, homeschooling is getting more and more and more popular, right, people are doing that.
Speaker 2:I think the other thing is, sometimes maybe the fact that I'm so innovative in this model is too scary, right? So, for example, why do I not call the adults that work in our classroom teachers, and we call them guys? Maybe if I wanted to get approved, I should just say you know what they're teachers, and let's not like get people all ruffled up and scared of something new, right? And I think that's what happens with the traditional system. It's scared to do something different, and that's one of the reasons that I do as much as I can to share the results that we get, because I want to be able to show like this works right. We can actually deliver better educational outcomes than the traditional system can, and that's what I want to promote. I also want to inspire people to be able to go to their schools and say, hey, there are better ways to do this, and you know, here's someone who's kind of leading the way in that.
Speaker 2:You know one thing if you put me in charge of the US education system, you know, tomorrow I could easily well, I'm not going to say easily, but I would have an idea for it, which is we could implement two-hour learning and then the afternoons could be opened up to two things sports and performing arts. You know, theater. Those are things that a lot of schools already do. They already have the facilities, kids love doing those things and they already have the people who coach and guide in those ways. Those are great ways to develop life skills. And so we were willing to say, hey, let's take the morning and do two hour learning, which is infinitely scalable because it's technology is not reliant on humans, and then let's open the afternoons up to get the kids out on those fields or in the plays or where, or playing music or whatever. That is something that could easily be done. But all that to say, I think I think the traditional system just gets a little nervous about something that's so different.
Speaker 1:So I keep trying and I'm actually a little further and a little nervous.
Speaker 2:I think they find they find innovation to be offensive uh, yeah, I think that's true and I will say I fired myself from going in front of the charter boards because, as you may be able to tell, I have passion and energy around what I'm doing and I think I'm like maybe I scare people.
Speaker 2:My husband handles the financial side of our schools, and so he and I have been traveling to these different states in front of these charter boards, and after the last one that we were at together, my husband looked at me and he's like Mackenzie, I think you're too scary for them. Like we need to tone it down a little bit and just be like traditional and boring and we'll see. So one of the things that we're doing is we're actually going to stop applying for virtual charters and we're instead going to start applying for in-person charters, which would mean parents would send their kids to a physical location for school all day. We're also going to be taking more advantage of states that have educational savings accounts where they can say okay, we'll open a private school in this state where they can do that.
Speaker 2:Indiana, florida, texas, arizona, wellxas isn't there yet hopefully they will be in a couple weeks. We're we're. Texas is surprisingly behind on educational savings accounts, and I know that a lot of people think of those as political issues. Um, and you know, yeah, they, you know it is, but here's the bottom line is that you know, families can access funds that they're paying taxes for to help make sure their kids are in the school. That's right for them and that's what we're big fans of working on. So, yeah, exactly so I'm. I'm all about trying to figure out how to break into the public system, but I will tell you, I does feel like I'm some sort. I'm often like grating my face with a cheese grater when I'm doing this, but I'm working on it.
Speaker 1:Well, welcome to my life. It has been a real, real pleasure to to begin our relationship. I want to learn so much more about the work that you're doing. Tell folks where they can find you on YouTube and some of the other places that they can find?
Speaker 2:Yes, Future of education. I'm on YouTube and I'm on Instagram with future of education and, like I said, I really want to just spread awareness that there is a revolution in how kids can be learning and we are transforming K through 12. So I have big goals there. I have a ton of content where people can kind of binge watch, find the things that are interesting and, if they find it interesting, share it with your network so that we can start to just make people more aware that there is a better way.
Speaker 1:I see that she's coming right back on. Looks like the gremlins are in the technology right now. So, folks, as Mackenzie comes back on, hoping you're enjoying no Dumb Questions. Mackenzie Price the future of education is her handle on Instagram. You can check her out also on YouTube. As she said, she's got a ton of content.
Speaker 1:I wanted to talk to her because I've been following her and watching the work that she does. I follow a lot of people in education. I'm as much a fan of education as I am a proprietor a practitioner, I should say and so for me, the goal is to focus on those people who are doing the work and, where possible, to find people who are innovative. You don't have to agree with McKenzie Price or Alpha Schools. That's your thing. Don't send your kids to those schools, but if you think it's something that you want to find out more about, reach out to her at Future of Education on Instagram. You can also check her out again on YouTube.
Speaker 1:I think it's important to note that every type of school isn't for everybody, and the more opportunities that we have to learn in different settings, the better it is for all children. Okay, thank you so much for her YouTube. That's unstoppable training official. Thank you so much for her YouTube. That's unstoppable training official, and we should push ourselves as a community, as a community of parents and educators, to create more models of education. We can't think that this is the only way to do it. The brick and mortar school works for some. It doesn't work for all. The traditional model of delivery, meaning what we refer to as the public school, the one at the bottom of your street isn't for everyone. What we do know is that there are too many creative people in this great big country of ours. Let's see, just accepted you. All right, give her a chance to come back on. There we go.
Speaker 2:Sorry about that. My husband called and it just made the entire live go crazy.
Speaker 2:I forgot to tell him that I was very busy doing this right now, but anyways, I think I saw, by the way, unstoppable Training. They have two children that go to our sports academy and so thanks, for I was seeing that they were sharing the news. But, yeah, future of Education on YouTube and on Instagram, and then I also have a Future of Education podcast that you can find on any of your podcast platforms. And then twohourlearningcom is where they can also get information about how to bring one of our schools to your city.
Speaker 1:Learningcom is where they can also get information about how to bring one of our schools to your city. Kenzie Price. This has been super dope, really enjoyed myself, glad to have met you and looking forward to talking again.
Speaker 2:Thank you, let's go out and crush it, take care.
Speaker 1:All right, take good care. Thank you all for joining us on no Dumb Questions, where the only dumb question is the one that we don't ask.
Speaker 2:Thank, you so much Take care.