Retro Camera, Dodo Bird, and an AI Actress

We trade outrage for honesty as we riff on AI hype, de-extinction headlines, and a hard history lesson that still warns us today. Humor breaks the tension, but the heart is clear—value-for-value, open access, and treating people with care.

• value-for-value model and why we keep content free
• status of the earthquake reports and why feedback matters
• the AI “actress” debate and creative labor concerns
• nostalgia tech with Kodak’s tiny throwback camera
• 1974 ruling on pregnant teachers and how norms shift
• weather as texture, jokes as pressure valves
• de-extinction ethics and the dodo bird milestone
• radio roots, music licensing limits, and our mission
• city crackdowns, due process, and resisting group blame
• “First They Came” read-aloud and what we learn from it

Chapters

• 0:00 Welcome & Value-for-Value Ethos
• 3:04 Earthquake Reports and Why They May Stop
• 7:35 AI “Actress” Tilly Norwood Sparks Debate
• 12:40 Schools, Control, and 1974 Pregnancy Ruling
• 17:40 Nostalgia Tech: Kodak Mini Keychain Camera
• 21:15 Weather Chat and Duck Jokes
• 24:50 De-Extinction Fears and the Dodo Bird
• 31:10 Why This Show Exists: Radio Dreams vs. Music Rights
• 33:45 Cities, Crackdowns, and Equal Treatment
• 37:08 “First They Came” and Final Reflections
• 44:00 Website, Support, and Sign-Off

Transcript

Capella: 0:06

Welcome to the Ugly Quacking Duck Podcast, the worst podcast in the unknown universe. Or at least that's what some people say. We prefer to think of ourselves as charmingly rough around the edges. We're passionate about podcasting and the value for value model, where creators and listeners connect directly. We believe in keeping our content free and open to everyone, because who needs another paywall, right?

Bruce: 0:29

Right. This is Bruce from the Ugly Quacking Duck. I hope you enjoyed our new intro.

Sunny: 0:35

I liked it, and this is Sunny from the Ugly Quacking Duck.

Bruce: 0:41

Alright, well, if you're the first time listener to our podcast, we welcome you. And if you're an all-time listener or what a second time, third time, whatever, welcome aboard. We appreciate all of you for coming and being part of our show. Now we're here today. This is episode what? 125. 125 episodes, and we're still flying bad. Yep, the worst podcast ever. And we're gonna prove it to you every time we do an episode. I hope you enjoy it. It is October the 5th. Wow. This month is already slipping by. We've just been in it and it's going uphill and it's gonna flop over and then zoom. It'll be gone. Wow, I don't know if I like that.

Sunny: 1:34

Well, there's nothing you can do about it, so we might as well enjoy it. Have fun and do what we do.

Bruce: 1:42

Do what we do, yep. Okay, we're gonna do what we do, and that'll be a lot of fun.

Sunny: 1:51

Well, okay, if you insist, but I wonder if people really think it's fun.

Bruce: 1:57

Well, whatever it is, it's time consuming. So if you're gonna do laundry, mow the grass, do dishes, put some earphones in and let the podcast roll, and that will kind of take you away from all the monotony that you have to do every day. So enjoy.

Sunny: 2:17

All right. I'm enjoying doing it.

Bruce: 2:19

Yeah, you always do. You like coming aboard. You're usually so hyped up I can't really get you calmed down.

Sunny: 2:26

I'm trying to do better. What can I say?

Bruce: 2:29

Got anybody you want to shout out to today?

Sunny: 2:31

Yeah, I'd like to shout up to sh not really shout up, but I I'd like to do a shout out to all the duck crackers out there. You know who you are, you big crackers, and to my community. The ugly cracking duck flock. Welcome.

Bruce: 2:52

Oh, you like that flock thing, don't you?

Sunny: 2:54

Yeah, I like saying flock.

Bruce: 2:59

Okay. Well, to our community, we do welcome you. And make sure you visit the uglyquacking duck.com. Uh, we just did an earthquake report post from 9 30, the seven-day report, and then the 30-day report, and it looks like for 2019 it's got a lot larger numbers. So as I've stated before, if the seven-day thingy, I don't know what else to call it, transitions into a seven-day or a seven-year thing, that means 2019 was a little bit bigger than the other years around it. I checked them. This year's quite a bit big, but if 2019 is bigger and it transitions into a seven year, that means next year, 2026, is gonna be a big one, and uh we'll have to wait and see.

Sunny: 4:01

Yeah, we'll have to wait and see. Nothing like finding out afterwards.

Bruce: 4:07

You're right. Well it's kinda hard to do any projections because I've not figured out the the key to that, and I don't know if anybody else ever has. If they did, they'd make a lot of money projecting when the earthquake's gonna be and where it's gonna be.

Sunny: 4:24

Hey, we oughta do that. We can make money.

Bruce: 4:29

Yeah, or get shot when we're wrong. You know, there's only a couple of people in life that can be wrong. Politicians are wrong all the time. They don't get clobbered for that. And the weatherman, they predict stuff and it turns around being moved to another day, another temperature, another storm. Yeah. Yeah, I we could do that, I guess. We just predict them, and when they're wrong, we can just say, Well, we're like the weatherman or the politician.

Sunny: 4:57

No, we better not do that.

Bruce: 5:00

Yeah, we probably shouldn't. But anyway, um, yeah. In fact, talking about that, I've been thinking about and I probably will, um, no longer post my reports on my web page because I've been doing it for a couple months now. It takes a lot of bandwidth up and storage, and nobody has chatted with me, text me, email me that they find it interesting or that they like it, or they like me to change it. I mean, I'm not getting any communications back, and that's what we're here for. So I'll probably cease that in the near future, maybe even this weekend, for the new seven-day report. I'm gonna keep re r doing it for myself for the fun of it, but I don't know if I'm gonna post it uh unless somebody comes up and says, Hey, I still want it. Now I may from time to time read the report on the podcast episode. Uh that's what we used to do every week we would read the seven-day report, but I wouldn't, you know, post it on the the webpage. So we're probably gonna quit. Uh that's just extra work and if it's not seeing any results from anybody, then I'm gonna take it, nobody cares. So I'm just gonna keep doing it for myself, and that that'll take a lot more work away.

Sunny: 6:35

Oh, you're being a lazy bum.

Bruce: 6:39

I'm the biggest bum of all, Sunny.

Sunny: 6:42

Oh, you can say that again.

Bruce: 6:44

I'm the biggest bum of all, Sunny.

Sunny: 6:47

All right, I didn't literally mean you could say that again. That's insane.

unknown: 6:55

Gosh.

Bruce: 6:57

Oh, I'm doing what you always do to me.

Sunny: 7:01

No, I'm not that way. I'm straight, man.

Bruce: 7:05

Straight as an arrow, huh?

Sunny: 7:07

Yeah. Yeah, I don't ever tease.

Bruce: 7:12

Oh boy, you know where you go for lying.

Sunny: 7:15

Yeah.

Bruce: 7:16

Washington DC. That's where all the great liars go.

Sunny: 7:20

Oh boy, sh forgive us, folks. He's a little bit of a lunatic.

Bruce: 7:29

Uh no, you are. Alright, whatever. Hey Sunny. Hey Bruce. Have you heard of that new actress Tilly Tilly Norwood?

Sunny: 7:46

Oh yeah, that was a girl that played on Game of Thrones. I like her.

Bruce: 7:53

No, that was not Tilly Norwood. Tilly Norwood is a new AI, which is artificial intelligence, that's what they say. Actress. Totally made up, and she is totally made up. She's got an Instagram account. She's supposedly talking to some producers um about getting a new gig, and she's doing screen tests and all kinds of made up stuff.

Sunny: 8:23

Oh, really? Is she famous?

Bruce: 8:26

Well, they're they're working on trying to get her that way, and it you know, it just happened this year, and unlike most actors and actresses, um, boom, they just put her on the internet, make her an Instagram account, and you know, they just do a few other things, and she's popular. Of course, it was all made up, but apparently her whole Johnny, Johnny can't talk.

Sunny: 8:57

Spit it out, Bruce. Come on, spit it out.

Bruce: 9:03

The whole thing is really ticking off a lot of people in Hollywood. Uh, they are fuming mad about it, or so a lot of people say. I don't know, but it's quite an interesting phenomenon. You know, AI is here and they're here to stay, so there's nothing we're gonna do about it. How we deal with it as humans and how we um associate with the things that are AI that will probably make a difference. Now I'm not sure AI is ever gonna take over, but the people that use AI as a tool, that's gonna be the problem. Who's gonna use it and how are they gonna use it?

Sunny: 9:48

Oh yeah. That that's scary. It could be another nineteen eighty-four.

Bruce: 9:55

Yeah, and for the people don't know what you just said, nineteen eighty-four was a novel uh written about uh a really black part of culture and history. Not really he history, it was futuristic when it was written, but it uh 1984 has already passed, but it was a a really dark book about how society was taken over and all that. So they're just saying that uh Yeah.

Sunny: 10:30

What are they saying, Bruce? Huh? They're saying I'm a good looking guy.

Bruce: 10:36

No, they're not saying that at all.

Sunny: 10:38

Aww.

Bruce: 10:40

They're saying I'm a I'm not even gonna go there.

Sunny: 10:44

Oh, you're no fun.

Bruce: 10:46

Yeah, we've been told that before many times.

Sunny: 10:51

Yeah, yes for sure. But anyhow, she's a made up actress, yeah. So we're living in a made up world, a matrix, and they have uh AI which is made up input into that matrix from another made up world. That's really messed up.

Bruce: 11:17

Yes, it is very messed up. Um I don't know how you you could get any more sci-fi than what you just said. And I love sci-fi. But yeah, it just don't work very well, does it?

Sunny: 11:32

Uh it works pretty good, it sounds like.

Bruce: 11:35

Oh boy, did you hear that motorcycle go by with the radio blaring?

Sunny: 11:39

I did. I couldn't tell what the music was, but I could hear it.

Bruce: 11:44

Yeah, it j it went by too quick. I really couldn't figure it out either. But anyhow, I thought that was an interesting story, so I wanted to bring it up. Look her up, or it I don't even know where to go with that, but look up this AI actress, and her name is Tilly T-I-L-L-Y Norwood, N-O-R-W-Z-O-O-D. Almost said zero.

Sunny: 12:15

Oh, brother.

Bruce: 12:17

Well, that's just the way life is. But look her up. It's kind of interesting. She looks like a normal average female actress. It's uh all age uh AI generated, which I like to say ancient intelligence for various reasons, but it's pretty interesting. And I said that about three times, so I better quit saying it. Now I'm gonna tell a little bit about my age now, but I mean, you know, it kind of fits into the story. But back when I was going to school in the 70s, I never realized that I didn't see any expecting teachers or expecting mothers that were teachers. Uh I just never noticed it because I was young and you know, other things were being applied to me at that time.

Sunny: 13:08

Yeah, you had to learn. That was hard, wasn't it, Bruce?

Bruce: 13:13

Uh, you could say that. Uh difficult paying attention in them, you know, them classrooms you really are not designed to allow us to learn and to grow. They're designed to get us to shut up, learn to be controlled, and take orders from a authority character, whether it's a teacher or a boss or the president or whatever. That's what they're they're just training. Anyhow, that's another story for another time. Uh during the 70s, apparently, was when they allowed pregnant or expecting mothers who were teachers to fulfill the rest of their pregnancy at work, at school, during a classroom, or in a classroom. I did not know up until 1974, they weren't allowed to finish their pregnancy in a classroom. They had to leave at midterm. And that's not midterm of the class, that's midterm of their pregnancy. So they were, you know, women were very mistreated throughout history and still are, and I'm not going to get into any of that, but apparently they couldn't stay in the classroom as a teacher during their full pregnancy. They had to leave. But in 1974, believe it or not, it was that recent, or it is for me, because I lived that, uh, the Supreme Court ruled these policies were unconstitutional, and that established that women could keep going to work while pregnant. What do you think about that, Sunny?

Sunny: 15:01

I think that makes it hard on the woman either way. I mean, she's got to carry that extra burden, deal with all the sicknesses that come with it, and put up with a job. Yeah. You know how life is. It's definitely unfair.

Bruce: 15:19

You said a mouthful, for sure. Yeah, I just thought that was interesting. I read that and I thought, wow, that's some news I never I didn't realize. See, when I was young, I didn't pay any attention to the news. I like the cartoons. And if anybody's from Southern Illinois, maybe they remember Cactus Pete, you know, and Uncle Briggs. If you do, give me a shout out, because that was, you know, I got home after school, got my homework done, and I think he'd come on at five o'clock. It may have been six. But we'd flip that TV on, you know, and you had to pull the button, turn the dial to get it to the right place, turn the volume up, and turn the rotor, and there you was, Channel 3 would pop on. It was from Harrisburg, Illinois, and we would watch Cactus Pete and Uncle Briggs, who took over afterwards. And I'd watch the Three Stooges and Cartoons. Um it was Daffy Duck, Bugs Bunny, you know, all the famous cartoons from back in that era. Yeah, that was a good ad driving um evening.

Sunny: 16:34

Yeah, you didn't want to do your homework, did you?

Bruce: 16:37

No, nobody wants to do their homework, but I did so I can watch cartoons, and I always had to run trash out real quick before I got to sit down. But then were the days, you know. We didn't watch news and get all upset like everybody does now.

Sunny: 16:52

Oh, now don't start on that.

Bruce: 16:55

Okay, I won't. Let's talk about something else.

Sunny: 16:59

All right, let's talk. What do you want to talk about, Fred?

Bruce: 17:04

No, Fred's the ghost. I'm Bruce, remember?

Sunny: 17:09

Yes. I'm Sunny, you're Bruce, and Fred just walked by.

Bruce: 17:15

I didn't see him.

Sunny: 17:17

Well, that's not my fault.

Bruce: 17:21

Okay. Should I get worried?

Sunny: 17:24

No, you'll be all right. He ain't after you.

Bruce: 17:27

A whole lot.

Sunny: 17:30

He just likes to walk around and freak the cats out. Kinda like I do.

Bruce: 17:35

Oh, well, yeah, I can see that. Anyhow, let's talk about cameras. Want to?

Sunny: 17:42

Yeah, I know what cameras are. They take pictures. Duh.

Bruce: 17:47

Yeah, yeah, they do.

Sunny: 17:50

So what about cameras, Bruce? Tell us the world story.

Bruce: 17:55

Well, boy, I don't know if I can tell a world story, but how about a small story about a Kodak camera? Are you ready for it? Kodak has just shrunk the 1987 nostalgic camera that we all are familiar with, and they've shrunk it down to a keychain size camera. Now the camera doesn't use film anymore. It actually is a digital camera, but it looks a lot like the old camera, and it takes pictures digitally, but they are nostalgic looking. Now it doesn't take great cameras, not like your phone shoot nowadays. Most phones take better pictures than a camera does, but I still like, you know, the old digital or the 35 millimeter because there's certain uh portraits and other things that you can take that really gets a lot more uh what characteristic from it, colors and stuff than you can get with a phone. Anyway, that's another story also. But they've shrunk down this camera, made it into a keychain, and it's only thirty dollars, and you can choose from different styles, and they have um I think they may be selling different styles at different times, but it has a LCD screen on it, and you can choose what the photos are gonna look like, and it's very uh reminiscent of a age gone by. So, you know, for thirty dollars it may be kind of neat just to have one and make some old looking pictures. Check it out. Kodak has done this.

Sunny: 19:46

Yay! Are we getting paid for that?

Bruce: 19:51

No, we're not getting paid for anything. We uh anything we do we just do for the fun of it. We don't get paid for anything. Nothing.

Sunny: 20:01

Alright. Well I just check and you almost sound like an advertisement.

Bruce: 20:06

Oh, well thanks. I'm glad I sound like something.

Sunny: 20:10

Well you're very welcome, old man.

Bruce: 20:13

Oh, now I'm an old man.

Sunny: 20:16

Aren't you?

Bruce: 20:17

No, I'm not 120 yet.

Sunny: 20:21

Yeah you are.

Bruce: 20:22

Uh no, but anyhow, let's don't uh anyhow. Well let's talk a little bit about the weather, shall we?

Sunny: 20:34

Yeah, it's dry, it's not raining, and it's still kinda hot for October.

Bruce: 20:42

So true. It is supposed to rain, I think last time I looked on Tuesday sometime, and they'll probably change it, and they normally do, but we're supposed to get a little bit of rain Tuesday, and I haven't mowed my grass kind of needs it, but it's really a thin um seeding type of crabgrass, and uh it don't look pretty, but it really isn't thick enough to mow, plus it's so dry, if I mow it, it's gonna kill everything and blow a bunch of dust, so I probably ain't gonna mow for a while.

Sunny: 21:18

Oh, you got a brand new lawnmower, and now you're gonna not mow? Is that what I'm hearing? What, you tore it up already?

Bruce: 21:28

No, I just don't want to blow dust all over it, and all over the yard and all over me. It don't matter. I mean, the grass is not growing six foot tall like it did this spring every time it rained. I mean, we've got a little bit of rain in what, the last two weeks? So, no, it don't matter. But anyhow, let's talk about the weather. It is right now hot. I don't know how else to say that. I'm gonna look up the temperature on the internet. It says it's 82 degrees and partly cloudy. And in Phoenix, Arizona, get ready for this. You know, it's usually different. But it says 82 degrees and sunny. So the only difference here is they're sunny, we're partly cloudy.

Sunny: 22:17

Well, that's kind of weird. Usually they're real hot.

Bruce: 22:21

Yeah, but it's October. That should make a difference. But right now, according to the weatherman on the internet, it is 82 in both locations. Now, if we jump over, and I just hit the wrong button. If we jump over to Spokane, Washington, it is 60 degrees right now. So they've got some really nice weather. And we are at 51% humidity, 10 mile an hour winds, and the air quality is 41, but it's still good, but it's 41.

Sunny: 22:59

Does that mean I'm not choking when I should be, or what? What does that even mean?

Bruce: 23:06

I honestly don't know. I just figured if if the air quality goes up, that means it used to mean smogs in the area, but it could be dust and uh pollen and all that kind of stuff. However, Phoenix, Arizona is at 17%. They only have a one mile an hour wind, and their air quality is 18. Wow. And Spokane, Washington does not have a quality meter on my uh screen, so I don't know what their quality is. But their wind is at six miles an hour. Yay. We are at a moon phase of waxing gibbeas, if anybody follows that stuff. Now their visibility is at ten miles, so they got pretty good quality, I'd say.

Sunny: 24:03

You know, Bruce, um why do ducks have tail feathers?

Bruce: 24:09

Well, that way they can turn and flight. They kind of they move their tails, feathers back and forth, and kind of twist it and it helps them to fly.

Sunny: 24:20

No dummy. It's to cover their butt quacks. I was not going to go there, but I thought, why not?

Bruce: 24:38

Wow. That caught me off guard. I was not ready for you to throw a joke out there, man, and I thought you was being serious.

Sunny: 24:46

That's what you did, see. I caught you off guard.

Bruce: 24:52

Now that you did. You for sure did. Well, you know what, Sunny, I've found a very interesting article. I'm not gonna read it to you.

unknown: 25:02

Sh.

Sunny: 25:03

That's a good thing. I was worried.

Bruce: 25:06

Oh, come on, give me a break.

Sunny: 25:08

Nope. Unless you want it in the leg.

Bruce: 25:11

Oh okay. So anyway, I run across an article. Now this one's been posted since uh September 17th. So it's it's an old one. I was gonna read it a couple episodes ago, but I didn't get a chance to. But it you know, it just blows me away how we have come full circle in history. Uh before the flood, according to biblical times and biblical scripture, there was creatures on this earth um designed by the fallen angel's offspring, and they had designed all kinds of weird beasts and animals and stuff. According to Revelation, I think it's Revel No, Jesus quoted this, I think, that it would be the same as in Noah's or yeah, Noah's time as it is in the end times. You know, a lot of people just think that sin's gonna run amok, which it probably is saying that. But it's also talking about, I believe, that we are gonna come full circle and repeat history. Uh with the help of these entities, we are gonna start messing with chromosomes and genes and crossbreeding things that we shouldn't and manipulating their genes so they will grow weird animals and such. And every time I read one of these articles where they're going back and cutting the genes from one thing into another to reproduce a lost animal from our history, I think, yep, we are taking one more step closer to that. So apparently they have figured out a way to bring the dodo bird back. You guys remember the dodo bird, it went distinct several years ago, back in the seventeenth century, I believe. But apparently they have got one step closer. Now they're saying it'll probably be another decade before they can bring a dodo bird to life, but what they've done is they've took a cell from a sperm and an egg from a pigeon, primordial germ cell. I'm not even sure how that relates to a dodo bird, but they've been able to d create that germ and that process is gonna bring 'em one step closer to the dodo bird. There you go, folks. Now think about that. They're manipulating a pigeon's primordial germ cell, putting it in some sperm and egg cells, and they're saying that's gonna get 'em one step closer to the dodo bird. So and they're saying that's a type that type of pigeon was very much related to the Doby O bird. Look at everybody. I'm not why do they want to bring these creatures back? I mean or have they already, and they're just slowly leaking it out in the news, so uh we will be kind of what? Used to it when they start showing up.

Sunny: 28:54

Yeah. You know there's been a whole lot of weird creature spottings and sightings, and yeah, they probably already got 'em coming back, and we're just not seeing them yet.

Bruce: 29:10

Well, very well possible. I just think it's uh playing with uh some weird um characteristics and you don't know what's gonna happen.

Sunny: 29:25

I do. They're gonna have some weird animals running around just like they're doing now. What you think the uh Bigfoot is just a phenomenon?

Bruce: 29:38

What was that?

Sunny: 29:39

Never mind, you just think it's a creature made up? No, it's probably a long lost creature from well before that they brought back and now they're we're all seeing it, you know.

Bruce: 29:54

Well Bigfoot's been around for years. So unless these scientists have been doing this long time ago, I mean hundreds of years ago, then Bigfoot is not one of their creatures. Now I I don't doubt one bit that Bigfoot's not a creature that was from that era we're talking about, or after. Just like the giants, the Bible says they were there before and after. So, you know, that's still going on.

Sunny: 30:31

Okay. Okay.

Bruce: 30:35

Hmm. Yeah, ponder that. That's a good thing to do. And while we're pondering things, wait a minute, I want to shift gears. Let me get over here to I got the studio set up a little bit different, and it's been hard getting used to. Hopefully it's going to help the sound effects, but it helps me get closer to my mixing board where I can hit the buttons a little bit better. But what I was gonna say, we're gonna take a step back and go political for a minute. I know I don't like doing that, and I know that you know I try to make this podcast humorous a little bit, if I can.

Sunny: 31:21

Oh, you are humorous. You're just a joke.

Bruce: 31:24

Hey. Thank you.

Sunny: 31:27

Oh, you're so welcome. I'm glad I can help. Bend over and I'll help you out.

Bruce: 31:32

Well, you gonna kick me?

Sunny: 31:35

Uh-huh.

Bruce: 31:36

Alright, well no, I don't think I want that. Um I'll just stay right here. Yeah, the main reason I started this podcast was because I like radio shows. And it was the closest thing to doing a radio show without the music. I would love to do a podcast and add a lot more music, but right now, the way the laws are, I can't seem to wait to do it and do it legally. So we won't. Now, every now and then I find uh some pretty good music that where they uh the creators have put it on a few web pages that you can uh I always send them a little sats, and uh I use that you know on an episode or two, but if I use too much music, Spotify and even Apple may start kicking me off. So I try not to do much of that. But that's the closest thing to the old radio. Sounding familiar, so I started doing a podcast, you know, with the hopes that I could kind of do a radio show without the radio. So that's you know, that's what started. But I always hoped I'd you know be an uplifting podcast where people could hear me and not hear all that junk. And, you know, they they listen to the news and they watch their social media run accounts, and what happens is their blood boils, basically. They they get upset, uptight, and we've talked about this before how you end up hating your neighbor and judging the other guy and all that stuff, and that it's created to be that way. So we will hate each other, judge each other while they get by with stealing us blind, taking away our authority, taking away our freedoms, and they sit up in their high horses and laugh and take the money. They've never been here for us, and they never will be anyway. So I stay away from the political scene every now and then. I do delve into it. So today, on the last of my podcast episode, I want to talk a little bit about what's going on in a few of the states.

Sunny: 33:56

Do tell what you talking about, Bruce.

Bruce: 34:02

Uh, you're so comical.

Sunny: 34:04

Well, thank you. I try.

Bruce: 34:06

Uh uh, okay. Anyhow, Portland, Oregon. Uh, that is one of the cities that uh has had uh I show up, and I maybe the National Guard too. I'm not positive on that. They've got some extra feet on the ground, I'll put it that way, and I'm not sure it's going over very well. So to the people there, hello. If you anybody knows anybody in Portland or Oregon, do a shout out for me, and I pray for you guys there. If there's trouble in that city, may they find it and get it out. But for you people, common people like me and you, we don't need any of that. We don't need the trouble, we don't need the people coming in getting in trouble. It's just a lot of a lot of baloney. And Chicago, Illinois is another one. So anybody in Chicago, hear me out, man, hang in there. Stay tough, all right? Supposedly the way it's produced to us is they're going in to help and clean up these cities and do good and get rid of the trash is what they're saying. Get rid of the illegal aliens and not just them, but the criminal elements, what they're calling them. But uh a lot of us has heard news where they're going after citizens and a lot of mess. And right now we don't need any of that. We don't need people, we don't need to be looking down on each other, we need to stick together, we need to love each other and help each other, you know, and as I read last episode, I think it was the 14th Amendment I read to you, and it it shifts from a citizen to a person talking about how they should have legal rights by law. And I don't I don't want to get back on that soapbox, but people, we all need to be treated equal. If they're in this country illegally, then we need to deal with that and help them to get legalized. If they're criminals, then we need to detain them and send them out legally. But anyway, I've said enough. I'm just my prayers are for the people. If I had somebody coming down my street that was wearing a mask, had armed people with them and guns, and they was knocking on doors and going in and getting people out, I wouldn't ask what the person was, I'd ask what they were. And I think that's what everybody's doing, and I pray for you guys, and I'm sorry that any of us is going through that in a hope that we don't forget history and what happened in the days of Germany where and there was a good poem about and I'm I'm gonna look it up. Alright, you know that's one thing I like about doing a recording instead of live. Um that five minutes where I got online and looked this poem up, you would have been sitting there in um quiet and uh I wouldn't I probably could have cut it, but not on live, but on the recording I can just hit pause. But I went and looked up that poem because it fits. So this is gonna be how I close the episode and then we'll go to the finals. Most people have probably already already heard this poem. Uh you may have studied it in school. But I'm gonna read it to you today because it fits. No matter what you look at our society and the people and what they've done, no matter how you look at, you know, what's going on, you need to hear this, okay?

Sunny: 38:20

Read it to us, buddy. Read it.

Bruce: 38:23

All right, we're going to. The name is First They Came, and is written by Pastor Martin Niemoler, N-E-I or no, N-I-E M-O-L-L-E-R. Martin Niemoler. I'm gonna read it. Here we go. First they came for the communist and I did not speak out because I was not a communist. Then they came for the socialist and I did not speak out because I was not a socialist. Then they came for a trade unionist and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist. Then they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew. Then they came for me, and there was no one left to speak out for me.

Sunny: 39:22

Wow, I never read that before.

Bruce: 39:25

Well, I'm glad I read it to you then, Sunny, because that's what we got going on right now. I mean, people are hating on this group and hating on that group, and they're coming after that group, and they're coming after this group, and when it's all said, it sounds good, but what we're overlooking is the hatred behind it, the anger behind it, that doesn't do anybody any good. It festers and causes more problems, and uh uh it's horrible, folks. It's horrible. And there are criminals involved and they need to be stopped. I agree. That needs to happen, but when we start going after groups of people because there's criminals involved, then we're going after those people for the wrong reason. And it may start sounding good, you know, at the beginning, because we're getting rid of all the illegal aliens and they got criminals in them. There's a bigger group than, you know, the criminals. But next, what's gonna be next? You know, we've heard rhetoric about other individual or not individuals, but other groups. I'm gonna post this on my website so anybody that comes by can read it. But it is very, very good to read and to read and to read because it could happen again, and I think it started.

Sunny: 41:02

All right, Bruce. Way to go. Well, that wasn't too much of a downer.

Bruce: 41:09

I hope not. Well, I hope it wasn't. But anyhow, we are gonna say good evening. It is Sunday afternoon, and uh I'm gonna try to get this edited, posted, and maybe to come out tomorrow, as we have been doing them most of the times on Monday nights. We'll see.

Sunny: 41:32

Well, I think it's a good thing. I like it.

Bruce: 41:37

Well, I'm glad you like it. I'm glad you are here to help me go and be part of the episode and the podcast.

Sunny: 41:46

Well, thanks for letting me be here. Wow. That was weird, Bruce. What was that?

Bruce: 41:56

That was one of your friends coming after you.

Sunny: 42:00

Oh, I bet that was Timmy.

Bruce: 42:03

Yeah, it probably was. They're weren't in the door and I got the door shut and they were after you.

Sunny: 42:09

Well, they're not gonna hurt me. I like 'em.

Bruce: 42:13

Yeah. You like beating on 'em and picking on 'em.

Sunny: 42:17

I just run after 'em. I don't pick on 'em, and they turn around and run after me.

Bruce: 42:22

Well, that's true. They do do that. All right, folks. Uh we wanna remind you to go to the uglyquacking duck.com, that webpage, and uh check out our posts and anything else, leave a comment, subscribe to that webpage, and hopefully you'll get an email from time to time when I do a new post or uh any pictures or anything. If you've subscribed and you've not got the new episode posts, um the last couple or anything, send me an email at the ugly quacking duck at gmail.com and let me know, and I'll go in and see what's going on. But I think I got all that fixed several months ago, but we'll have to see. I haven't heard from anybody, so I take it. It is fixed.

Sunny: 43:19

All right, Bruce, thank you for that. And yeah, guys, go buy the ovencracking.com. It's uh really important. Bruce has put a lot of work into that webpage and trying to keep it going. And money. It costs him quite a bit of money every year. Enjoy it. Do something with it. Comment on it, comment to us about it.

Bruce: 43:47

There you go. Saying that is very important, and I've got a new ending for everybody, and we'll say bye right afterwards, but I want you guys to hear it, and this is another AI.

Capella: 44:00

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Bruce: 44:39

All right, I hope everybody enjoyed that. I think I'm gonna keep the the introduction and this uh value for value in here for a while, um, until somebody tells me they're tired of hearing it. But are you ready to say bye, Sunny?

Sunny: 44:53

Yes, say bye.

Bruce: 44:56

All right, we're gonna say bye. Thank you, folks, for coming by. 73 to you. May the father's love be always with you. Ready, Sunny?

Sunny: 45:06

I am ready. Bye.

Bruce: 45:14

Great show, Sunny. Thanks for coming.

Sunny: 45:18

Oh, that was a glass breast. Thank you. We'll see you next week.

Bruce: 45:22

Yep, goodbye.