How Much Power Should Police Tech Have?

A cop doing 95 pulls over a rider for doing 95, and somehow thinks he’s the moral authority. That clip sets the tone for a wide-open live where we chase the hard questions: what “reasonable and prudent” really means, why small hypocrisy wrecks legitimacy, and how officers can keep ego out of enforcement without turning policing into an echo chamber.

From there we jump into modern police technology, especially drone policing. We’re honest about the upside: better suspect location, fewer bad grabs, and a calmer response on high-risk calls like suspected break-ins. We’re also honest about the danger: drones and real-time tools are easy to abuse if nobody audits them. We lay out a practical transparency model with public flight logs, pilot IDs, and call numbers, built to protect investigations while still respecting Fourth Amendment concerns and public oversight.

We also break down what “good policing” looks like on the street: a First Amendment auditor contact handled with zero drama, a tense moment where a person reaches for a knife after being asked about weapons, and two body cam reviews where split-second decisions, crossfire awareness, and radio habits matter. Then we call out what we think is a bad use-of-force decision with a K9 bite that didn’t need to happen, because accountability means critiquing our own too.

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Transcript

Disclaimer And Ground Rules

SPEAKER_20 0:00

Hey everybody, welcome to 2 Cops One Donut. I'm your host, Sergeant Eric Levine. Before we get started, here's a quick disclaimer. The views and opinions you're about to hear are those of the hosts and guests alone. They don't represent any police department, agency, sponsor, or employer. 2 Cops One Donut isn't responsible for anything said by guests or for any videos, clips, or content shown during the live stream. This show is intended for adult audiences only. We cover real incidents, we show graphic and sometimes disturbing footage, and we don't shy away from strong language or adult conversations. There may or may not also be alcohol involved. Viewer discretion is strongly advised. Everything you hear or see on the show is for entertainment and educational purposes. It is not legal advice and it's not tactical instruction. And it shouldn't be used for such. By continuing to watch, you're telling us that you understand, you accept all this. All right, now let's get into it. I am your host, Eric Levine. And today I have with me my co-host, Banning Sweatline. How are you, Banning?

SPEAKER_01 1:04

Doing good, man. What'd you do? Friggin' get a teleprompter or something?

SPEAKER_20 1:09

No. I can't keep that type of energy. That's not my style. What's up, everybody? Welcome back, 2 Cops 1 Donut. I'm your host, Eric Levine. And today, with me, my down 71 pounds host, the Banning No Weight Sweatland. What's up, brother?

SPEAKER_01 1:25

What's going on, man? Feeling better uh every freaking day, and I'm glad we're going live tonight, man.

SPEAKER_20 1:29

Hell yeah, hell yeah. Um, we got no agenda tonight, y'all. Uh, we're just gonna do the old school. We got no guests. Um, just gonna bullshit, talk about some of the stuff that we've had going on with the show. Um, talk about some of the videos we put out, the reels and shorts, and kind of deep dive into those if we can. Um, and as usual, I'm gonna make sure there's no, you know, technical issues going on. I'm looking right now. I don't know if my chats are going through. So uh hello. Can you see this on Facebook and Instagrams and whatever else? Uh oh yeah, I forgot to go live on Instagram. There we go. You guys know how this is. Alan was supposed to be here tonight, but he's being a good Samaritan. So neighbor was having some heart issues, so he's helping out there. Uh, we do have Banning back this this week. Um last week you missed Bridget um from uh what is it? Lady Lady Law Shield. Lady Loss Shield. Yeah, yeah. That's what it is. And she's great. Um she definitely wants to get more in the mix with what we got on here. So we're gonna start getting her more involved. One of the things that we talked about doing is having Anthony Bandero, Bandero from Blue to Gold, the the search uh uh arrest, search and seizure expert from them who former cop that is now a lawyer, get Vaughn, also former cop, now lawyer, uh, and which is a use of force guys, for those that don't know, and then get Lady Law Shield, which she specializes in is for officers that are getting screwed by their department internally with harassment, retaliation, things like that, um, which is what she went through. So it it's it's kind of a double-edged sword. This isn't um woe is us policing, but literally, guys, in policing, at a lot of places, you're getting hunted from both sides. It can feel that way. So good stuff. But let's go over to what this is really all about. Our loyal community. Um, I see my mom's in the house. I think she was the first one to comment tonight. What up, Mo Shelle? Uh Country Girl in the house, Nina. What's up, Nina? Uh Wade's over here. Mr. Billfold's in the house already. I like that. Jerry. What are you doing, Jerry? That's all I can. I can think of. I just think of Seinfeld every time I see that name. Twitchy Skitch, one of our mods is here. Um Perry's in the house. And I don't know how to say this, but it's the M B R R P podcast. I don't spell it. Tell me what that stands for again. I just looking at it, it's not triggering what it is off the top of my head. But what's up, brother? Uh Nat, one of our other mods, is in the house. She said yes. Facebook and Instagram is on. That's what I like to hear. Listen, if you are over on Instagram, it's funny because I always look over this way for Instagram. It's because that's where it's at on my screen. I don't see your guys' comments as often. So if you really want to be heard and be a part of the community, I just throw Instagram on here as like an extra so you guys are aware that we have this live and that we do it primarily on our YouTube channel. So I'm asking if you do want to be a part of it. I see like uh boss Maccus just jumped on. Like, if you just see this, jump over to our our YouTube channel. Two cops, one donut, all spelled out, and be a part of the community. Uh Steve Hill's on. He said, Is Matt Thornton both an SRO and a detective? I I don't think he's yeah, no, he's not retired yet. He's he's an SRO. I I don't think he does the detective thing anymore. And if I'm correct about his department, the way that it works, like where I'm at, a detective is a promotion. Um, but there's a lot of places that's not true. I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 5:32

No, majority is is is a lateral move. If you're a if you're a sergeant on patrol and you get moved to CID, which is criminal investigation division, you're doing a lateral move in. So you're just going to be a sergeant in CID or a sergeant detective. Uh, that's the majority, because the majority of the agencies across the United States are small agencies. And then if you put pull up the big numbers, it's it's less than 20 sworn at all these smaller departments throughout the country. But no, at some departments, uh Houston, Austin, those those big ones, uh Los Angeles, it's typically a promotion to go into CID.

SPEAKER_20 6:06

Correct. Yeah. Um, bearded Tim just jumped on, one of our other mods. Uh guys, make sure, make sure you respect our mods. They actually do a lot, a lot of work behind the scenes.

Fasting And Fitness Reality Check

SPEAKER_01 6:17

Um they're volunt, they're volunteering their work, and that's not a lot. That's that's huge. It's almost like a volunteer fireman, uh, a reserve police, they're volunteering their time uh to come into to everybody's space here. Two cops, one donut, and they're making sure everybody is being cordial. And that's that's that's a big that's a big step, man, to go in there and and and take that belt and do it. But I was gonna I was gonna share this with you real quick, man. I just I I got it on my phone. I don't know if you can see that or not, but I've been I've been currently fasting on a water fast.

SPEAKER_20 6:47

Hold on, hold on, hold on. Keep it up there. I gotta you're mirrored. I gotta unmir you. There we go. There you go. You're fasting.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

Drink water. So uh I'm I'm at 127 hours or or five days without food, man. And uh when these things called ketones get into your system and that autophagy starts and it starts eating up any type of bad sales, man, you feel great. You don't need to eat, you're good. And like you said in the beginning, I'm down 70 plus pounds and uh keep going. And now when I go in the gym, it's it's uh it's rock star again, you know, get bring the old banning back. So it's something that's uh that's really good. Good feeling. I just love to share that information.

SPEAKER_20 7:25

I need to do it. I just need to do it. I'm just gonna do a I want to do a three-day. I just need to do a three-day just to give me a little running time.

SPEAKER_01 7:32

72 is a great starting point for anybody that wants to try this, or even a 48. You know, if you're really worried about it and you got a lot of manual labor, you have to do at work, start a 48, man. Do it on your weekend if you have the ability to have a couple days off and see what your body goes through. Let the ketones kick in. You may have the power to where you don't have to do uh anything. Those ketones kick in and you and you're still a rock star physically. So if you guys, I'm just I I I'm heavily pushing this without the family and friends because it's what it's done to me and and uh my blood results and everything. And I'm just opinion-based, obviously, but I get to see the facts on a spreadsheet on the blood man, and it's it's good stuff.

Tech Troubleshooting Live Echo

SPEAKER_20 8:07

I like it. Uh Nina said, having some tough times, but trying to be a tough devil pup and trying to get through it. Well, I appreciate you during your tough time, Nina, joining us. Uh it means it means a lot. You guys could be anywhere tonight on your Sunday, your last free day for most people. And you chose to be here with us. So definitely much appreciated. If you are new to what we do, and you're like, oh great, um, there's two cops on this screen, cops playing stuff to me, you know, typical bootlicking, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Cops playing here, there. That is not what we do here. Um, what we do here is we actually are anti-echo chamber. We have the tough discussions. We like to uh go against the grain uh when we feel it's necessary. We don't go against the grain just to go against it. I I think that's kind of what gives us the reputation that we have is we may not always agree, but at least when we put our argument out there, I think a lot of us can meet on some common ground. And I think we do a pretty good job at that. But yeah, if you're new here, stick around with us. Um we've had some of the most anti of cop or or at least they felt they were anti-cop at the time, uh kind of come around and at least say those guys those guys are still cops, but they're okay. I think we're doing all right. Uh what did Tim say? If Eric gets any smaller, he can get a gig lane, one of the seven dwarves. A plane, one of the seven dwarves. Oh I am I am 5'11, sir. I am not small, but I'm not big. I think Tim's like 6'2. Tim's a big dude. Like bigger than you expect. And I think the beard that makes him not look quite as big. So okay. Today, today we got videos. I got videos lined up. Um, I like going over I like going over the stuff that we've put out first, and then we'll get to the body cam stuff. Um I like what Wade said here. Wade is anti-bad cop, and I think that's a good way to kind of describe what we're doing. Um just to give you guys something to look forward to, maybe. Uh I put it out on the Discord, I think, with my mods. But one of our mods, Nat, she is currently she's trying to get into the creating t-shirts and hats and stuff like that. And I gave her a bunch of design ideas for two cops one donut that kind of fits our mission. They're they're more mission-oriented shirts versus you know just trying to make a shirt that looks cool and we'll sell. Um so I think it I think it may be one of those exclusive, like, you know, we'll release you know, uh a hundred of these shirts and you know, our our true people that stick with us to be stuff for y'all. Um, because I don't want to get into the merchandise thing at all. But I do want to wrap a little bit of what we do. I'm proud of what we do on here. So uh with that said, what we do, um I'm gonna jump in to sharing a video and it's going to be on our X because it just shows up better on here. Alright, there we go. Let me Oh, I can hear myself.

SPEAKER_01 11:31

I don't hear any echo.

SPEAKER_20 11:33

You don't? I do. Before we get going, let me make sure that we don't get a crazy echo going. I'm gonna hit play. Just tell me what you hear. Okay. I'm trying to look at the comments. Everybody's saying it's echoing. Okay.

SPEAKER_15 12:40

Hmm.

SPEAKER_01 12:40

Now, when you started right before you paused it, your voice on the screen right now started to echo. I could tell it was going to continue to echo, but but hearing the cop and stuff, I didn't hear the echo. I'm it's unfortunate the audience did.

SPEAKER_20 12:51

Okay. Well, let's troubleshoot together. Let's uh let's work through this, guys. Let me go to audio. My echo cancellation wasn't on. Maybe that was it. Make sure mine's on. Okay, I'm going to go back. Thanks for helping me troubleshoot through this, y'all. I don't want you guys to have uh crappy, crappy sound here.

SPEAKER_01 13:21

Mine was not turned on either it is now, so hopefully it'll get rid of it.

SPEAKER_20 13:26

Let me try. I'm gonna close my Discord just to make sure that we don't get any more echo. And I'm gonna hit play. What'd you say?

SPEAKER_01 13:53

Major echo, man. That time it was real. Now I'm hearing it.

SPEAKER_20 13:56

Is it a bad echo?

SPEAKER_01 13:58

That's a pretty bad echo, yeah.

SPEAKER_20 14:00

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_01 14:01

I don't know why it's doing that.

SPEAKER_20 14:02

I don't either. That's a freaking thing.

SPEAKER_01 14:05

Let me mute my mic to make sure it's not coming through mine.

SPEAKER_20 14:07

Okay. I'll mute mine. Well, I'll leave mine on and then we'll see. Still echoing.

SPEAKER_01 17:15

Interesting. Yeah, I'm still echoing. I got mine back on, but it's uh yeah, it's uh it's echoing pretty good.

SPEAKER_20 17:21

Okay. Let's see how we can fix this. Um, because this is gonna make the whole show be kind of shitty if we can't get it figured out. Let's see here. Stand by, y'all. Stand by. We're gonna try to get this shit figured out. Um Harrison's texting me saying he thinks it's the video. Check it out.

SPEAKER_01 17:58

Everybody's saying to me on text that, you know, when we're just sitting here talking, there's zero echo, but it's just as soon as that video is planned.

SPEAKER_20 18:05

Yeah, so if I turn off the browser, which that's what I have to figure out, is why is our browser being echoey? I don't know how to turn that off. He said, try a different video. Okay. Let me let me go to my YouTube channel. And go to my shorts. I apologize, y'all. I did do some sound things today.

SPEAKER_12 18:48

When police become hypocrites.

SPEAKER_20 18:53

This is probably one of the biggest of all the people you could have gotten a car accident with.

SPEAKER_22 18:58

And then in Florida, just here recently, it's give me one second.

SPEAKER_20 19:02

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_12 19:03

When police When police become hypocrites.

SPEAKER_20 19:09

Y'all like So you think cops do it better than other co of and I don't know why it's being such a pain in the butt.

SPEAKER_12 19:17

Do you think when police become Okay.

SPEAKER_20 19:21

I'm gonna try to share the screen again. I have a feeling it has something to do with uh has something to do with sharing a window.

SPEAKER_01 19:31

When when you were clicking on those or scrolling, you know, going through those different Instagram videos or whatever they are, man, there was no echo audibly coming through.

SPEAKER_20 19:39

No?

unknown 19:39

No.

SPEAKER_20 19:42

But I'm not sh I wasn't sharing the screen yet. So right.

SPEAKER_01 19:45

And as soon as you pause that one just now, I heard some echoes. We'll see how it goes.

SPEAKER_20 19:50

Well, if you already heard it, then we know it's gonna do it. Why does it do it when I share it? Hmm. That's the hard part. Because if I hit play right now, I have a feeling it's gonna be a good one. Do you think hop should have drunk Echo? Alright, folks. We may. We may have a problem here. Because I gotta figure out why it's doing that. Um give me one second while I try to. Bannon, you got something you can freestyle on for a minute while I troubleshoot this in the background.

SPEAKER_01 20:32

Uh freestyle, man, freestyle. Man, everybody in the in the family is is freaking is is healthy right now. So uh that's that's some some great news. Um, and like you were saying, you know, one of our guys in the background, you know, hashtag I sitwithalan is uh doing the gentlemanly gentlemanly thing and and taking a a neighbor in need uh for medical regions to a hospital. Otherwise, he would he would be here. Um that's what that's what cops do when they're either retired or off duty, man. They try to take care of people. So it's uh it's great to hear that he's there to do that. And I'm glad the guy wasn't by himself. So uh it's freaking amazing.

SPEAKER_20 21:11

Yeah, um, yeah, we we may just have to do a regular old chat uh podcast here if we can't get this video working. I don't know what the hell the deal is. I'm chat GPTing at the moment, folks.

SPEAKER_01 21:23

So Big C said rookie. So let's let's I I've been kind of surveying unofficially people across the country through LinkedIn asking them, and these are these are current and or recently retired law enforcement and and and also rookies just getting into it, asking them how many constitutional type classes are they going through uh before they get into their FTO program, man? And it's uh I'm getting about the same answer. And I'm talking the northeast of the country, the Florida, the California, the Midwest. I got some buddies in Vegas that I've been talking to, and and it's still it's not being covered. Now, there are some good departments out there that are that are definitely covering this subject in reference to their officers and briefing and uh what are they in-service training, stuff like that. So there are a lot of good departments out there that are doing it. But I know we we we have that this topic a lot on the show. And uh even the area that I just left, they're they're they definitely aren't doing the training. Uh the only thing that they're training on is uh making sure you get a hold of a a ranch owner if a cow gets out. Uh they're not covering the the constitutional type training like they should be, uh especially it'd be in 2026. So just wanted to kind of update everybody on that.

SPEAKER_20 22:42

Let me see what this does again. I just heard myself in the years, banning.

SPEAKER_01 22:48

And uh Tim texted me and said, make sure you read the chat, lol. And I think it represents it.

SPEAKER_20 22:57

Is that good?

SPEAKER_01 22:57

That sounded good to me. We'll see what the people say.

SPEAKER_20 23:00

Okay, yeah, that sounded good to me too.

Motorcycle Cop Hypocrisy Debate

SPEAKER_07 23:02

When police become hypocrites, this one okay.

SPEAKER_20 23:51

Now we got that fixed. Now we can talk about being a hypocrite cop. So let me give you guys a background on that. Is from what I got, this video was shared with me. This isn't one that I've found. Um the a motorcycle rider who likes a lot of the motorcycle videos we put out. He sent this one. He said, What do you think about this? So the biker was going down the freeway, um, pacing the cops, probably. Uh okay, again, I'm speculating, but who doesn't do that? You see the cops driving, you're like, Okay, I'm just gonna, I'm not gonna pass them, but I'm gonna stay the same, whatever speed they're going, I'm gonna do that too. Uh, and I I that's what I assume was going on here. Well, the cops were going 95. And how do I know? Because the cops said that he was going 95. So now this motorcycle rider, he crept up on you and was riding by you, not past you, but rode next to you. And you pull him over and then decide to bitch him out because he did the same thing you did. You weren't running code. Yeah, you weren't running code. So that's lights and sirens. Motorcycles don't go to calls, y'all. This may be something else that you don't know. Motorcyclists typically do not go to calls.

SPEAKER_01 25:09

Major accidents aside, stuff like that.

SPEAKER_20 25:13

I'm sorry. They handle calls on the freeway. They don't really handle anything else. They're not going to domestics, they're not going into neighborhoods and stuff like that, or showing up to apartment complexes, or going to the 7-Eleven because there's a homeless person there. They can't transport anybody. So they normally just stick to the freeway.

SPEAKER_01 25:37

And just to kind of for those that don't know, you know, I I've ridden or read uh what's called general orders or best practices around the country of different things. And most agencies, when it comes to their motorcycle unit, uh just it's written in black and white, will allow them to go if they're en route to a call that's not an emergency situation, uh, traffic permitting can go en route to that call, driving to it, no lights and sirens, at 10 miles an hour above the posted speed limit, as long as they have acquired all of the safety and training that they need. Now, this is an act of call that they're going to. Now, when they're not going to an average call, they're they're supposed to be blending into traffic, and that means obeying uh current speed limits and stuff. So, yeah, it's it's absolutely a hypocrisy uh when you hear a uniformed officer on duty say, You tried to pass us at 95. Well, obviously he knew how fast he was going at 95. He probably had his Ford radar on too that's on his handlebar, so he could even see it better. Um, you know, that that is absolute hypocrisy. And it's and it's and it's it's ridiculous. Absolutely ridiculous. I didn't see a now there's different policies for different agencies. I didn't see a body camera. Now it wasn't the best video. I get it. It was a 360 video on this young man's motorcycle that caught this. But uh, I don't know if you saw one, but I didn't see a lapel and or a body camera on this. Uh and he they could be going to it. There's a myriad of things they could be going to. An off-duty gig for traffic control, they could be, but it obviously wasn't an emergency response that they were heading to, and that's where I have a problem.

SPEAKER_20 27:15

Yeah, and most agencies, so this goes to the education side. Most agencies, when you're running code to an emergency call, like you can go 20 over. That's typically the emergency, yes. An emergency, or with due regard, because sometimes it's you know, you get that call that an infant's choking or whatever it is, and um the agencies will give you grace to go past that with due regard. Um, which if you get an accident, like apparently you didn't have due regard. That's gonna kind of fall on you.

SPEAKER_01 27:47

And we so you gotta be sorry, I mean I just I just wanted to throw in the reasonable and prudent. You know, that's most of the states will always fall on to what's called reasonable and prudent. So, would a reasonable and prudent person believe that you're going to an emergency call to assist somebody and you're not creating danger on your way to that call. And that's that's all that that truly means.

SPEAKER_20 28:09

Yeah, so so that that's the argument. So now my argument would be like if they were, if they were going to a call, one, they weren't running lights on sirens. So that's that's a technical foul. Uh if if they were going to a call, and it was that important, why are you stopping to conduct a traffic stop in route? Right. Because I I had cops like try to bash me on this one, uh, saying, you don't know. They could have been they could have been pacing him. No training that I have ever seen in law enforcement. Can you pace somebody in front of them? Try to do that in court. There's no court that's going to accept that because you're you're guessing. You have to have landmarks and stuff to to pace people. Uh, pacing is a real thing. There is real training for pacing, but it always is trained with the person in front of you, not you by, not behind you. Yep. So that excuse goes out the window. Then they said, well, maybe those cops were trying to catch up to somebody else that they were watching speed, which tells me the person they're trying to catch up to was going greater than 95. Because they were in the process of going to catch that person. So if that's the case, why would you slow down to do traffic enforcement on a guy that's slower than you or or meets the same pace as you? That person that was ahead of you is obviously the bigger danger. So I'm trying to cut off all the arguments at at the past because all these arguments they were trying to make, I'm like, you're just trying to make an excuse because they're a cop. And it's like it doesn't work that way. It's the this rules for thee and not for me, don't fly. And people are getting fed up, and that's why all these videos are coming out, and they're showing they're showing that. So again, to officers, when we make this argument and the 99.9% of cops are out there doing the right thing, they're not. That's a shit number. It's not true. It's because you're thinking of cops out there intentionally committing crimes like uh overt, like just stomping all over people's rights type stuff. It's even the minor things like this that aren't right. And you're not I if you make a good argument, I'll give you a good argument, but I I haven't heard a good argument yet. Um, they were they could have been going to a hot call and they didn't want them to hear their sirens. I'm like, one, they're on the freeway, they're not gonna hear or see their lights and sirens. Two, when when you are on a hot call, like a burglary or a bank robbery, something like that, and you don't want your sirens to be heard, you cut them a fair amount of ways out, but you still gotta have your lights on. You you're you're running 95 miles an hour. So it doesn't that doesn't make sense either. I I can't think of it. I I literally like even just trying to find an excuse why this would be okay. I can't even find one. And then to motherfuck the guy as you pull him over and and and act like you're on this moral high ground. The hypocrisy. I don't I don't know. What do you think, Benny?

SPEAKER_01 31:30

No, I'm I'm 100% in agreement with you. And and doing it for over 20 years, I've I've I've I've caught many of people wearing a badge, you know, doing that, and thank God it was trainable and nobody was hurt. And then uh understanding that, you know, if you're caught doing this something again, it it may not be the same thing. But the majority that I've dealt with in the past have have cleaned it, and I'm I'm talking about uniformed police officers, cleaned up their act and realized, you know, here's the general orders, and this is why we well, why we follow them. It's not uh for us and that we can't drive and speed. It's it's for the general public that we're serving them protecting, period. Let's keep them safe.

SPEAKER_20 32:06

Oh shit. Um okay. I'm just I'll go over here to the comments, see what everybody's saying about it. Uh, the insurance company, my agency uses, won't cover crashes over 20 miles per hour unless they're going to uh very high priority calls. So yeah, that was from Project 1868. Wade said, oh, he said general orders do those actually exist. Yeah. Um Perry said, I saw his lights on his box on in California. They do have M4s on their bikes. California only requires a single red light to run code. Yeah, I didn't see like I played that several times. He turns his light to he turns his lights on to get over to start conducting that traffic stop. They weren't on prior to that.

SPEAKER_01 32:55

And there's the and in reference to that, and that's a good comment. In reference to that, yes, these most of these guys that have dash cams and the little 360 cameras hanging off their bikes in the cars, and and I support that. That's awesome that you get that technology on there. It is going at 30 frames per second. And there's been two videos, Eric, that since I've been doing this with you, that's been sent to me that that was literally flashing, meaning recording in that 30 frames per second was missing the red and blue strobe to where once I pulled the dash cam and body camera from the officer, they were running code. It's just the camera. Now, I've been sent hundreds, maybe even a thousand videos from y'all that to where the majority of the time, as you stated, is 100% correct, but there's been two. So we we can't cancel that out completely because there is a chance that these 30 frames per second may miss the emergency light flashing on a motorcycle or police car. But likely, just from what I'm seeing, it's usually going to catch at least one or two of the flashes. Now, I think we all saw when they looked back and they saw the bike approaching or getting kind of close to them, that when they activated at least their rear, what's called rear deck lights or the rear emergency red and blue flashers, it was very visible within that. So I don't think that's the case on this one.

SPEAKER_20 34:10

Yeah. Yeah. I so if you're gonna give a lesson to cops out there, if there's any cops that watch us and they're like, you know, trying to take some advice from us, just don't be a hypocrite. Don't do this shit. Like it it'll one, it'll keep you out of trouble. Two, it's the right thing to do. Uh, you know, I I get it. That ego kicks in. You're like, I'm a cop, I'm allowed to do this. You you can't be doing it though. Like, you have to check that ego. Like, it's not just because you can run code when it's authorized, doesn't give you carte blanche to do whatever you want, whenever you want in a vehicle.

SPEAKER_01 34:47

Let me let me before you go to the next one. Let me just give you a quick story of personally of when I matter of fact, it was the first FTO when Banning became a uh a baby cop, and I was a baby cop for years as I was learning, and I'm still still learning stuff every day. However, he walked me around to the back of the police car here in Texas. I'm not gonna say the agency, uh, and he pointed because he was about to drive and take the wheel, and I was in my observation phase. So literally, first day of going out in the police car with a uniform on, just a young Marine fresh out of the service, and he pointed at the license plate and he goes, You're gonna see me violate some traffic laws today. And when you do that, I want you to remember that we have Texas exempt plates, which it means it exempts us from the laws. And and for the for that eight hours sitting in that police car, I thought he was correct because we never did we never covered that in the police academy. And I'm listening to this guy, this guy stripes on his sleeve, that's probably a year older than me. Uh we were both young, but I quickly got into the law book, started looking things up because it just didn't sound right. And so when you see a school bus in the state of Texas, or if you see a police car, you're gonna see on their plate it says exempt. That does not mean exempt from traffic laws. It means exempt from paying a registration surcharge when they get new stickers. Matter of fact, when I got in law enforcement, marked police cars did not have a visible registration sticker because they had to update it every year, but they didn't put the sticker on the window like every other passenger car. And it was only because it's a government vehicle and they didn't have to pay a registration fee to the state. It just made it null and void on that. It has nothing to do with traffic laws because you'll see you'll see it on our buses, all of our independent school districts is on any uh registered vehicles that they have, you're gonna see that same Texas exempt plate's got nothing to do from avoiding traffic laws.

SPEAKER_20 36:36

Right. Um, what is Oath Keeper bab babbling on about over here? Cops aren't obligated to protect the people even if there is a restraining order. Okay. What what is your what is your point?

SPEAKER_01 36:56

So are we, and I gotta ask Oath Keeper or whatever. I didn't catch the name, it was up there so quick and I don't have access to chat. Is he speaking about a restraining order or a protective order? Because in the state of Texas, Louisiana, Oklahoma, and uh New Mexico, they're about the same thing. So I need to know what you're talking about. Is it truly a restraining order, which is contempt of court a civil matter, or is it a protective order when violated, which is a criminal matter? So two two big two big differences.

SPEAKER_20 37:23

I is a violation of an emergency protective order, is that a felony, or is that a class?

SPEAKER_01 37:28

It depends on what the viol violation is. No, it's you know, when it's actually just a violation of protective order in the state of Texas, it's a class A misdemeanor.

SPEAKER_20 37:35

That's right. Um yeah, yeah, that's what I thought. There's probably enhancements on that, but I'm not 100%. God, it's been so long since I've had to do uh emergency protective order. I I forgot. Um yeah, that's crazy. But yeah, I you're not wrong. I just don't know what your point is. Uh the courts, supreme courts have ruled that cops are don't have an obligation. That's you're not wrong.

SPEAKER_01 38:04

But and and and on that protective order, it can be elevated to third degree felony, depending. So, like you were saying, can it be escalated? Absolutely can.

SPEAKER_20 38:14

Yeah. Yeah. Um cops aren't exempt from any laws, criminal or traffic. Again, no you're you're correct. They're not exempt. They just there's laws that in the course of their duties are bypassed and not not enforced. So they don't, they they're allowed to do it. Doesn't make them exempt.

SPEAKER_01 38:39

And and what Eric means by that as just an example is the video that we just watched. So if they're going to an emergency, what's called, sometimes they'll call it a priority one through a priority three call, if it authorizes the lights and sirens, obviously they can violate the speed limit uh to get there. And when you look at that, it's what would a reasonable and prudent person think if those were to be evaluated and an accident were to occur and there were involving entries, et cetera, property damage. So there's there's rules all around the fence. If even there's rules that can be violated if you hurt somebody or something else, and then it goes into another thing. Do we need to look at charges on this officer, even though he was utilizing lights and sirens as trained? Uh, was it the officer's fault or not? Did he not slow down to almost a complete stop at a red light at a four-way intersection? And did he cause an accident? Because even though we're authorized code going somewhere, there's still rules of man out there. You still have to slow down. Not everybody can see and hear that. And what people don't realize, some of the young cops that are watching the night, you can outrun those sirens at about 75 to 80 miles an hour. And also, depending on the wind direction, that sirens null and void at a certain speed.

SPEAKER_20 39:48

I I never really put this together. Now I don't know. I'm gonna be able to unhear it, Benny. This guy said the dude on the bottom sounds like John Goodman. He's talking about you. Good Lord.

SPEAKER_01 40:00

Well, hopefully that's not a bad thing.

SPEAKER_20 40:02

Yeah. Um, so to your point, uh oath, uh yeah, it's there's things called defense to prosecution. That that's that's what police often use. Like when we get in a shooting and somebody dies, we're not we're not immune to the law. It's just there's defense of prosecution if it's in self-defense and stuff like that. So I I'm just trying to figure out you just kind of blurted it out like it was it really didn't have anything to do with what we were talking about. So I'm just trying to figure out where you're coming from on that. It's like uh excited utterance. That's what it sounded like. Um, okay. Did we beat that one to death? Have we got any more that we want to talk about? That cop. I think we both agree that cop was being a hypocrite. And I don't we don't agree with that.

SPEAKER_01 40:54

Yep, and if he was going to an important call, he wouldn't even have stopped. Been checking for that, and they would have continued on to help whatever citizens summoned law enforcement.

SPEAKER_20 41:05

So correct. Agreed, agreed. Um, okay. Uh Big C 360. I don't think I've seen his name up here today, said, not enforce is the problem. I understand some situations call for violating the law when it becomes common practice. That's a problem. Agreed. I think that's uh kind of what we're addressing here. Umathkeeper followed up and said, Yes, there is a defense prosecution, but the first thing they bring up is qualified immunity.

SPEAKER_01 41:36

We're gonna make a big show on the qualified immunity, brother, and I understand where you're where you're coming from with that. I I get it. And we're we're gonna talk at it, and it's probably gonna be, and Eric hasn't said this and or me anything, but I think it's gonna be probably one of our longest live shows is when we cover this qualified immunity because it it very much is an important subject, and all of us want to talk about it. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_20 42:00

Yep. I'm gonna get a qualified immunity professional. Um, and then obviously I'll probably get Vaughn back for that, and then uh try to get somebody on the other side that's trying to argue to get rid of qualified immunity. And then I'm just gonna sit back and watch because I'm not a pro at that stuff, and I can only only tell you what I think. I think I think we've had the discussion on here. We think qualified immunity has some holes in it and it needs to be fixed. Um, but I definitely stand firm that it doesn't need to be gotten rid of. Um, but we're not gonna get into qualified immunity tonight because that ends up just taking over the whole show like it does every single time we do try to get into it. So uh we're not gonna get into all of that tonight, y'all. I I know Mr. Bill Fold will lose his mind if we start going. Because for those that don't know, when the last time we got into qualified immunity, just to kind of tell you where we stand as a show, we brought one of our diehard uh community members, Mr. Bill Fold, who uh adamantly is against qualified immunity, and we let him debate with a lawyer that Von Kleem was like actually a nationally renowned uh force science uh use of force expert attorney, um, former cop. And shit, how did they they go all three hours? I feel like they went a long time.

SPEAKER_01 43:28

It was it was quite a bit.

SPEAKER_20 43:29

Yeah, and we just kind of try to facilitate that the discussion, and it's pretty good. Um Oath Keeper said, I think they should get rid of qualified immunity. Cops should have to get insurance just like a doctor does. Well, then you're gonna have to pay cops just like a doctor gets paid. So that's uh that's the argument that I'll make against the insured part like that. Um I'm all for it, sure. But now you're gonna have to pay cops the same way. And don't be surprised when you don't get the qualified candidates that you want to do the job.

SPEAKER_01 44:03

Yep. And and you could easily say if you look at the state of Texas, that uh insurance for for medical doctors performing procedures that go awry is capped the last time I looked at$700,000. And I'm sorry, but if you're just like people think about law enforcement or the judges or the DA or defense attorneys at that, if somebody's doing a surgery on you or one of your loved ones, uh, should there be a cap on that? Should there be? It should it be a case-by-case basis? And I think law enforcement should be too. It needs to be a case-by-case basis, and all the all the facts need to be present and clear for everybody to see.

SPEAKER_20 44:39

Yeah. I can see Mr. Billful getting spun up already. He's like, hey, uh, I love it. Um kilted cop watch. I like that. Another double standard from cops. If a person breaks a law and doesn't know it's a law, the cops say ignorance of law is no excuse. When a person catches a cop breaking a law, the cops says they're in a cutoff are too many laws to know them. I gotcha. Too many laws to know them. Um do cops this is this is I'm not disagreeing with you. Let me let me preface this. I'm not a hundred percent disagreeing with you. But is it cops that say that, or is it the courts that say that and then push that down onto the police? When it comes time, here's the thing if you commit a felony, I don't have a choice as an officer. Even if it's ignorance of the law, I don't have a choice. And cops will tell you, like, well, ignorance of the law, I don't have there's nothing you can do or say that I can excuse it because it's a felony. I have to make the arrest.

SPEAKER_15 45:51

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 45:52

Now, if they have discretion, then they're full of shit if they're saying, well, ignorance of the law.

SPEAKER_01 45:58

Yeah, and and and Eric's saying it is a felony, but also in the in the state of Texas and surrounding states and majority of states, when it comes to family violence, it can be a misdemeanor, but it's a shall. The courts have decided and legislated have decided a misdemeanor of a family violence law that has been broken, that's articulable on the scene. The peace officer has zero ability of waiving it like they can a traffic citation, and they shall or must enforce the the said law.

SPEAKER_20 46:28

Yeah. Ariel, let's move on. Ariel wants another video, I bet. Mr. Bill Fold got his membership going on. Appreciate you, brother. Uh, I do believe he's probably I think Mr. Bill Fold is probably one of the oldest standing two cops from Donuts when we got memberships available. Because you had to have I think I had to have a thousand members on our YouTube channel to even start. Start offering it, and I think that's when we started offering it. And uh Mr. B was one of the first. And I think Mr. B wasn't even a huge fan of us at the time. If I if I if if memory serves me correct.

SPEAKER_01 47:08

Um well we were still in a in a in a vetting phase for our our first come people, you know, like who are these two jack wagons that are that are cops friggin' putting this information out? Who the hell are we or who the hell are they? Let's look into them type of thing.

Kicking Doors And Fire Response

SPEAKER_20 47:20

Yeah, yeah. Steve's not wrong. Steve said they provided you with an excuse. Yeah. They really did. They really did. Um Peyton, Peyton on here just preaching. We don't do religion and we don't do politics on here, Peyton. But you know, I'll give you this freebie. Uh but what did oh, somebody said good idea, Oath Keeper. Thomas did. What it what I missed his idea. Where's his idea? Um, he said I think they should get rid of qualified immunity. Cops have to, oh, that that's we already read that. Okay. First member, if I remember correctly. Oh, Mr. Billfold said he was the first member. He goes, I'm still not a huge fan. Fuck you, Billfold. Oh, too funny. All right, let's go to another video. Um, oh, this is this is just this is just a good one. I'm gonna share the screen. All right. It's very short. Very short.

SPEAKER_11 48:29

No, hold on, watch out. No, that thing won't open.

SPEAKER_12 48:38

You're watching DTV.

SPEAKER_20 48:41

I love the fact that the citizens like, oh, that one won't open. And the dude just like, hold my beer. Boom.

SPEAKER_01 48:48

Really reminds me of uh 21 years of unfortunately having to do that in emergency situations. And yeah, it's kind of a good feeling to be able to do that to uh to pull somebody out of a situation like that or or stop a situation that may be going on in the house.

SPEAKER_20 49:03

So you would not believe the amount of firefighters that jumped my shit for that video. Uh firefighters don't speak up often on our videos, but especially on LinkedIn, they jumped all over my shit. Yeah, way to go, and you'll create a backflash or whatever the hell they call their stuff.

SPEAKER_01 49:22

Back draft, backdraft, backdraft, yeah.

SPEAKER_20 49:24

You'll cause all this shit to happen. Like, way to go, police going in with their plastic uniforms and burning to death, and da da da.

SPEAKER_01 49:32

Well, here's my answer to that because that was just a cool video. We're not saying it was right or wrong, it was a cool video. Nobody was hurting it. The the peace officer was trying to say people make an entry point. If you if you see there was a guy that was not in his bunker gear, whatever they call it for for FD guys, um, standing at the door, either triaging or speaking to somebody on the porch, and he didn't put an arm out, he didn't say anything, he didn't he didn't do any attempt to block uh for me, because I've had situations like that, and you have FD on scene. I announce what I'm about to do if they need the door open, and I go get it open. And they were quick to tell me, hey Banning, don't do that right now because okay, well, I I need to slow it, slow it down a bit and not do that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_20 50:14

That wasn't FD on the porch, by the way. That was a neighbor.

SPEAKER_01 50:18

Oh, was it a neighbor? Yeah, that was a neighbor.

SPEAKER_20 50:21

No, no, FD wasn't there yet. Um, which goes into my argument. FD, if you want to say something, get there first.

SPEAKER_01 50:29

Little humor, a little humor. We got one back and forth.

SPEAKER_20 50:33

Shots fired.

SPEAKER_01 50:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 50:35

Y'all want it? Y'all want to say something, FD? Why don't you get there before me?

SPEAKER_01 50:38

Or you gotta say water thrown. Water thrown, not shots fired.

SPEAKER_20 50:41

Yeah, yeah. Because uh, I can tell you right now, uh, 10 out of 10 times I'm booting that door open. Yeah, I'm kicking the shit out of that door. I've done it before.

SPEAKER_01 50:51

I I I saw one back in the early 2000s that circulated on a show that everybody knows called Cops, and it was a it was a major city, and uh there was a fire going on, the camera crew was going with them.

SPEAKER_03 51:02

I didn't know what to do what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 51:04

This this dude was on the windows, yeah. And and I love these shows because I I sat there and always pointed out inaccuracies, you know, sitting back, being just a young cop quarterbacking, which you shouldn't do. And and this dude made entry into a home, and it wasn't the home that was on fire. And uh God, God bless that young officer for for going out there and doing that. And and unfortunately it wasn't. I'm sure that that young lady's older lady's door was was taken care of in the in the future.

SPEAKER_20 51:32

He's uh he's since retired. Um, I know this officer, I know his brother. Uh Wade said, I've seen many videos where cops save people from burning houses before fire department even get there. Which is is is it it is not fair for the firefighters because they don't get to just go out and patrol in their truck. They have to stay at the firehouse because heaven forbid, they're at one end of their beat, and then you know, fire comes out on the other end, they got to kind of stay where they're centrally located. So yeah, um, it makes sense. You know, I I get why firefighters can't be the you know, they got I don't know how many people are on a truck, eight, twelve, I don't know. However, many guys are on the truck with them, they all got to get you know dressed at the same time because they're all having a sleepover at their their place.

SPEAKER_01 52:21

I'm sorry, firefighters, I gotta throw in more jokes and they all gotta slide down the same pole. And and uh let me I'm gonna give them some props, dude. Some of the situations that I've seen these uh men and women go into on fire calls, I'm like, holy shit, man, that that's a serious deal. Um so I'm I'm gonna give them their props on that too, man. They they go into situations that that you and I don't have the equipment or the training, let alone uh to go into. But yeah, also some huge props in what they do, man. It's freaking amazing.

SPEAKER_20 52:51

Yeah, I I basically go by the heat test. And he and here's this is an honest to God's thing for me, guys, because I I've I've been to quite a few house fires and car fires. I've been by car fires, I can't get near at all.

SPEAKER_01 53:05

Like I'm talking about melting the asphalt hot.

SPEAKER_20 53:08

Yeah, yeah. 100, you know, 100 feet, 200 feet away. I can't get near it, it's just too hot. Um, same with house fires, but I've been to house fires as well, kind of like this one where it's it looks like it's on the backside. I get up close to the door to the house and I'm not feeling any heat. I'm going in. I just gonna go in. Uh it it hasn't screwed me over yet. Um, maybe I'm just lucky, but uh yeah. Um Oath Keeper said, have a house fire in North Charleston, South Carolina. Red Cross gets there before the fire department or the police department. Damn. Is that like the hub for the Red Cross? They just sitting by waiting.

SPEAKER_01 53:47

That's pretty odd. And I'm gonna give Red Cross props, man. We we've been on some doozies of fires uh and and and law enforcement once the fire is just under when firemen are just doing the attack and setting up everything, and they've they've got command and control and and the and the and the pee-wee cops are out there, and what are we doing? We're making sure people are not running over their hose lines uh coming across the street. And the freaking Red Cross comes and sets up, and sometimes these setups are amazing. They have the Gatorades, they can cook burgers and hot dogs, and they're taking care of every the families on scene that are affected by the fire or the neighbors. Um, so it's pretty amazing what they do too. But man, that's funny if the friggin' Red Cross is showing up before uh yeah, that's good stuff.

Police Drones Done The Right Way

SPEAKER_20 54:27

Um, what was the other somebody complained about something else about this video? The the cop going in without checking, just kicking the door. Um, I know what it was. There was a video I shared, something similar, but the cop had when he came up, he was trying to get people to get back away from the house while he goes in. And somebody was upset that he was trying to, he's like, God, cop's ego can't even um hold himself back from trying to tell people what to do. And I'm like, listen, here's my perspective on that, y'all. I I will call out when I think it's a cop ego. Cops are trained to clear the scene for safety purposes, if something explodes, whatever. You don't want that on your heart that you did nothing. You just let people do whatever the hell they want. We know FD's coming in. If people are in the way, that's just more distraction for FD to have to deal with if we don't try to clear that out beforehand. It doesn't have anything to do with ego and and being in control that way. It is controlling the scene, so you can say, Yeah, there was a bunch of civilians right here, but we got them cleared out. Like you're gonna be able to give sit rep stuff as it gets going. So I don't look at it that way. Um we'll just agree to disagree on that one. So yeah, uh, let me back out of this. We'll go to the um let me share the screen here. This is this is more of a a my this is a my thing. This is what this is what I'm doing these days. Uh sorry about my bed head there. Let me let me hit play.

SPEAKER_22 56:06

Cops should have drones.

SPEAKER_20 56:09

Alright, so this is about cops using drones. So I wanted to show what I consider proper use of drones. This guy was out breaking into cars. A citizen reported it. They got a drone on scene, saw him breaking into cars.

SPEAKER_11 56:26

Hit him with the chocolate at the rat trap.

SPEAKER_20 56:30

20 points. Anybody that knows who's saying this, huh? Um, I'm gonna pause it for now, for there. Um, but that guy was going around hitting licks in uh cars, um, breaking into cars, got called out by a citizen saw him. They got a drone in the area over a public parking lot, saw him literally breaking into vehicles, got great video evidence. He had no clue that drone was there. Um, and it allowed the officers to get brought in and get into a safer position. And they did some old school police work, basic foot chase. They didn't go to weapons, they just they went hands-on, old school, and and and you know, terry-tated his ass or goldberged his ass, whatever you want to call it. These old school tactics, man. Don't depend on that Batman belt. They just that was Sarge, too. Sarge took him down, got him in cuffs. I mean, that is that's good police work, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_01 57:31

It is, uh it is, and what's great on Batman is now he's got to get the uh LT or captain to sign off on use force, and it's not him signing off.

SPEAKER_20 57:40

Right, yeah. Um, okay, so I'll get into the next video here. It's out of Brookhaven, Georgia. Uh, this guy, again, there was a report of a guy breaking into a home. Um, and apparently he was on somebody else's property before this one. That's that's what the that's what I was told on this. And so they get a drone in the area and they end up spotting the suspect because he's they describe him to a T. And when you see this guy, you'll see how easy it was to describe him. And now they're they're looking out for this person in their home, right? So we're gonna hit play here.

SPEAKER_17 58:38

I'll bring the drone low to see if I get the uh suspect attention.

SPEAKER_00 58:43

The drone pilot is successful. The male sees the drone and exits a garage.

SPEAKER_17 58:48

Uh UIS, I got his attention to the drone. He's uh trying to talk to it.

SPEAKER_10 59:00

What's up, man? How's your day?

SPEAKER_20 59:06

All right, so um I I I definitely want to give kudos to this officer just in his response. Young officers or inexperienced officers, no, you have to be young officers, inexperienced officers, that can tend to get them ramped up. That's a home invasion, possibly home invasion call. Those are serious calls. Home invasions, that's a that's one of those, like, as an officer, that's the type of that's why you signed up to be a cop. You want to stop somebody from breaking into your most sacred place, your home. So those get serious, those get dangerous, deadly, um quite often. Any anytime they happen. Uh they have a very high potential. And this officer's response, seeing a guy that's shirtless can see his waistband, the drone had already given updated information like we're not seeing a weapon. They were able to de-escalate and keep a calmer demeanor and and not over-escalate this situation, which can tend to happen. Uh, and you saw that officer, he was this is why I like the drones, y'all. I understand the big brother concept, I understand that, and that's a concern of mine. That's why I think great power comes great responsibility. This is an easily abusable tool, and I don't want to see that happen. But what we just saw in the last two examples is exactly why I want them. I just don't want a cop to fuck that up for us. So, what do you got, Benny?

SPEAKER_01 1:00:36

It it easily uh, and I'm gonna say more than likely, stopped a higher use of force, uh, which could have been used. This also, if you if you even just break it down to the budget numbers, when you're when you're running a law enforcement agency, you have to look at the numbers. If we if this became a barricaded person, meaning a call type, because they can't see the person, but yet they have a door ajar or a garage up, they don't know if it's his or not. And if it became a barricaded person, and now you've got the the armored vehicle coming out, you're getting a whole bunch of people that are off coming into duty uh for an over typing type thing, and then you've got a negotiator in there. And if you look at the the the serious cost of what what it takes to do that for the taxpayers, this drone, I believe, just eliminated. Now, did it definitely no? But on several situations like uh like this that I've seen, uh man, it's it's it's saving the taxpayers money. We're getting people uh into custody uh a lot easier with a lot less use of force.

SPEAKER_20 1:01:33

Yeah. And and again, it's gonna be just like with the LPR stuff, cops have screwed that up. There's cops that have abused it. Now, what I like about any time we start introducing good tech, and again, here's my argument. Once we figure out somebody's done something stupid, it's very easy to prove. Now, the trick is is finding out they did something stupid. Because if nobody's complaining and nobody's getting audited or anything like that, then they they can get away with stuff for sure. Uh, I do know with like the LPRs, there were some officers that were checking in on exes looking at their ex's new boyfriends and stuff like that. Now, they got caught, um, which was great. And I think the two cases that I saw, uh, they both got fired and one was pending charges. The other one didn't get charges, um, but one was pending charges. So, um, I I'm I'm gonna lean back into if drones are gonna be used, this is how I want to see them used, just like it would be a helicopter. We've had helicopters since in policing since what the 70s maybe? Maybe even earlier. So we we we're okay with helicopters. Um drones, I think, are a much smaller liability because if a helicopter crashes, that's gonna affect a lot of people. If a drone crashes, uh it might cut your head open. I don't think it'll kill you. It might, depends on how big it is, I guess. Yeah, I doubt it. But if you're the dude that gets hit by a drone, like maybe it was your time. I'm just joking. I'm just joking. But the odds are a lot smaller. Um but definitely cost a lot less for the city. A helicopter costs you like five mil just to start. It's not even getting all decked out with all the fancy cameras and stuff like that, and that's usually around another couple million.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:34

So and I'm I'm weird to looking up stuff. If you look at just a budget breakdown of if you were to call air support as a law enforcement officer and it's authorized, and they activate um the pilot and co-pilot, and and more than likely an officer that runs the FLIR detection and spotlight in the back. I mean, you're$1,500 spooling up a turbine engine, and that's the the officer pilot costs and the helicopter maintenance costs just to spool it up and get it going. So these drones have saved astronomical amounts of money across the United States.

SPEAKER_20 1:04:10

Yep, 100%. Um, I'm surprised. I thought we'd get more pushback in the chat on that. I really did. Nobody's written. They're either, yeah, they're okay or you know, we're just waiting for a cop to screw it up. I think Craig said cops are already fucking it up. That was about it. Craig coming in hot. I don't think Craig was here at the beginning. Um, but yeah, uh, just like friendly Bob said, it's uh it it is a way to de-escalate for sure. Just knowing me as a cop, if I'm showing up to the scene, like there's a whole bunch of shit going through my head. I'm like, oh my god, he's trying to break into a house. He's obviously not in his right mind, uh, somebody trying to do that stuff. And especially in the middle of the daytime, so I'm already assuming this guy's nuts or on something. And as I show up, knowing that the drone's like, hey, we we saw his back waistband, we saw his front waistband, we're not seeing any weapons sticking out. That doesn't mean he doesn't have anything. Um, he's showing us his hands, he's he's not running, he's trying to talk to the drone, like all of these things they they help big time they help. So uh let me see here. Wade said, I'm iffy on drones, but it will help with misidentified subjects. Many times cops grab the first guy they say, Yeah, I agree 100%. 100% the way the drones are, if they're set up in a city properly, and Vegas is a good example, um, because they have full citywide coverage with drones, you can have a drone on scene of any call within 90 seconds, and that helps. If you can have a drone on scene, that helps. And here's how, okay, Benny. I know you're not big into the drone scene yet. It wasn't a thing while you were in law enforcement, but I'll tell you, here is the way that I think we should be doing drones for transparency and accountability. We need to have a public website. The public website uploads every drone flight 24 hours after it's done. Um that way you're not compromising an investigation. But 24 hours after the drone flight is completed, that drone flight is uploaded, the path is shown, the pilot name is listed with badge number, um, or if it's a civilian, I guess, uh, whatever civilians have, uh, employee ID. Um, so path, oh, the the call number. So if it was a a report number or a just a call for service, um, all of those things listed for every flight. So people can jump on there and be like, oh, okay. So that's why they flow there, flew there. They flew there for this, they flew there for that. And the flights are not it's not arbitrary flights where the guy, an officer's just like, I'm gonna go look over here in this person's backyard, or I'm gonna go over here and look at that. Um, every flight needs to be tracked and shown.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:12

What are you giggling? Well, I'm just giggling because you said it, you know, it wasn't during my career. I was actually one of the first uh pilots in law enforcement before the Part 107 came out.

SPEAKER_20 1:07:23

Oh, so you were out there dirty burden it.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:25

Uh well, this this is when legislation was looking at it and authorizing law enforcement as a kind of a test bed as long as these drones and you had to save your flights uh were over public uh public streets not to exceed 400 feet to get into Class B airspace, et cetera. Um, and already being a pilot, a commercial pilot at that, I was able to go out there and test that. Um and it was it was it was interesting and it was very useful. And then drones came in hot and heavy and uh kind of blew everybody away in a good way.

SPEAKER_20 1:07:55

Yeah, uh, I'm gonna address Big C 360. He said Las Vegas Metro PD runs drones and choppers at the same time. I don't think they're trying to save money. Well, they just got the drones. You're you're not just going to dump your helicopters, they're gonna run them through their life cycle because they've already paid for them, um, and they don't want to lose the money on that. So it give it five years or whatever the life of that helicopter is, and then see where they're at. Because my guess is they're going to show that the helicopter isn't needed, and drones are getting better. I think uh a company called SkyDio has got a fixed wing that can go 100 miles an hour and fly for 90 minutes. Most helicopter flight times is about 90 minutes. Yep, they can fly faster.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:39

Um depending on drones, yeah.

SPEAKER_20 1:08:42

Drones right now are limited at 100 miles an hour according to FAA regulations. They can't fly faster than that. So as the FAA gets more used to police using the Program, the DFR, drone first responder program, I bet those limitations will start to change because police fly under what's called a part 91. So uh flying under the part 91, that will that will make things change um as far as what the drones are allowed to do. So we'll see as they go. But uh to your point about not trying to save money, give it time. I I think they are trying to save money. So uh I think it will. Uh Mace Lawrence said banning has to destroy the entire Iranian, Russian, and Chinese Air Forces with a single shot of bourbon. Fun fact.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:37

Uh another another fun fact. It's been over a month since I've had any type of uh bourbon or or anything, not on the wagon or anything like that, just looking at a healthier main and then come back to moderation.

SPEAKER_20 1:09:50

Nice, nice drones don't require refuel, so it's smarter to use them. Yeah, they I mean it's just a buy a battery swap, and that costs cents on the dollar for electricity compared to for that, for sure. Uh, country girl said, isn't that a fourth amendment violation?

SPEAKER_01 1:10:07

Um is what a fourth amendment violation?

SPEAKER_20 1:10:10

I I'm not sure what you mean is a fourth amendment violation.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:15

We always have to say, doesn't matter if you're a drone pilot or not, is do we have a legal reason to be there? And if you can answer that question and you can articulate it well in your report and your footage covers that, then they then they can they can be there without violating somebody's fourth amendment.

SPEAKER_20 1:10:30

Yep. Yep, for sure. Um, sorry, I almost blocked Country Girl on accident. Sorry about that, Country Girl. I didn't have to tell you that, but I try to be honest. Uh and then banning can barely use Discord, but they gave him a drone right out the gate.

SPEAKER_01 1:10:55

I funded everything. There was actually no uh no tax dollars used in the the purchase of that.

Auditor Call Handled Perfectly

SPEAKER_20 1:11:01

So nice. All right, let's go to another video. I think we've uh I think we've exhausted that. Alright, we're gonna hit another one, Cottverse Auditor.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:13

Can you take off your glasses? Can you see your eyes? You good? Yeah. What's your name? Cool. Is there an issue?

SPEAKER_13 1:11:20

There is an issue. What's it? Okay, cool. I would use it cool. You're not doing anything immediately.

SPEAKER_14 1:11:30

We're taking a video about the mic's place. We're gonna have an investigation on the FBI.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:40

This is fucking good.

SPEAKER_24 1:11:53

Thank you for being professional.

SPEAKER_20 1:11:59

Alright. So, short video because that is how auditor calls should go. That was perfect. Um the the biggest question we got on that was what was up with his badge? That's the biggest question we got. It's autism awareness awareness. That's what that was. Um, I didn't know that either. I I was wondering the same thing myself. I was like, oh, what's the deal with the badge? I don't know what the homage is. I some badges are colored badges anyway. Like you go to Hawaii. There's a bunch of cops that have colored badges out there. Um so I wasn't sure. I didn't know where this came out. I think it ended up coming out of Florida or Miami area. And the agency ended up getting tagged in this, and they ended up liking our post. So um we positively reinforced an agency and they knew about it. So that's a good thing. Um that that that means that they're paying attention and that they're gonna try to continue to do the same thing, the right thing, and hopefully give that officer some kudos uh appropriately. But what what we saw here was something we've covered so many times, but people called in on the auditors that were just out filming in public. Um I think they tested the officer by asking him to remove his sunglasses, and you know, there's a level uh of manipulation that auditors do to test the waters to see what they what what this cop's response is going to be. And that that was part of it. And this officer, zero ego. I probably shouldn't do this motion, that looks bad.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:44

Zero, zero ego.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:47

It's not getting any better.

SPEAKER_19 1:13:49

It's not getting any better, is it? Uh zero ego. He had zero guys, zero ego.

SPEAKER_20 1:13:55

Um, but uh that that there was there was so much stoicism from that man that after it was done, I was like, damn, like I actually took a little bit away from myself where I was like, I can improve, I could act more like this guy. Now you guys know me, I'm a talker. Like, I if I run into an auditor, the way that I talk right now is exactly how I talk to an auditor. Um, ask Cody Highroller. He's an auditor in my city. Uh, and he's he's gotten me on camera before. Like, I'm just a talker, I like to talk to him. But this guy was like, just bare bones, like, hey man, this is what we got. You're not doing anything wrong. Yeah, all right, be cool. I mean, it's really what it was like. It was great. What'd you think, Manny?

SPEAKER_01 1:14:45

I think it was great. I mean, he didn't even he didn't even have to stop, but I think on this specific call, it was good that he did. Uh, he got out and he's like, hey, we we got the call. Just want to let you know you're not doing anything illegal. And when he asked the young man to step up in the grass, that wasn't to be a jerk. That was just to say, we don't want you hit by a car, and I don't want to have to be coming back here later and explaining to your family why you got hit when I'm here already and I can explain to you, just stand in the grass, don't get hit by a car.

SPEAKER_20 1:15:09

Yep. What up, T-Bone? He said, Greetings from Fort Worth. He said, Love to the auditing community. What's up, brother? Um yeah, if if you're from the Fort Worth area, you should look into Cody High Roller. I know he likes to go in that area of the DFW. So welcome, welcome. Uh but my mom, the otter was a jerk asking someone to take the sunglasses off, period. Uh, I don't disagree. I mean, it's a power move for sure. It's it's a it's a test in the watch.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

You know, is what you do is a law enforcement. Does that should that bother you? No. No, just for again, take your your glasses, ain't your your eyeballs ain't classified. Take it off for a second.

SPEAKER_20 1:15:54

Yeah, who cares? Yeah. For me, and this is just here's my piece of advice. Okay, Banning, you you tell me what you think of this, but for me, let me get comfortable here. If I have to placate just to make my job easier, I'm gonna placate. Yeah, I'm going to again, I'm gonna eliminate the ego. And I have heard people on some of these videos that have been posted where I'm saying the cops are doing a good job, and they're like, Well, he was doing good until he said, Unfortunately. Because I think one of them said, like, well, unfortunately, you know, they have the right to do this, da da da da. And I'm like, guys, that officer isn't, he's not saying, unfortunately, you're flexing your rights. Unfortunately, you have the rights to do this. That's not what he's really doing. What he's doing is de-escalating. He's trying to placate that person so he can just move the fuck on. And you don't like the language, okay? So you don't like the language. I I can't help you there. I'm gonna side with the officer that can just get away from the call without having to do police action, without having to do any more police action. It's bad enough that he had to show up because a citizen called and didn't understand people's rights. But now he's got to make the scene, he's got to make contact with the caller, and now you're seeing what he's doing. He's just like, all right, all right, yeah, yeah. Like, well, they have the right to do this. Unfortunately, this is what we gotta do. Like, let it go. Like, the officer's not, he's not stepping on your rights, he's just placating for de-escalation purposes. And that's the way I see it. Doesn't make me right, but that's my view on it. And I'll do that. I I've done that. I've done that. I've said shit. I didn't didn't mean, just said it to get this person to be like, oh, okay, the cop's on my side. Nothing's happening. I'm not doing any enforcement, but they think I'm on their side. Why did I do that? Because they were at a 10. I had to bring them down to a five. And I did that through placating. Is what it is. I'll do what I gotta do to make that call a lot calmer.

SPEAKER_15 1:18:08

Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_20 1:18:09

Um Caps fan 93 said, I think the glasses bit was a test. How much ego will the cop have? I agree. I think that's a that's a good way to word it. 100%. Even if he refuses, does he just politely refuse or decline and explain it's too bright? Or does he get pissy? Yeah, yeah, that's well said, sir. I agree. Well said. I'm not a sunglasses guy. I I got big eyebrows. I think it and and really long eyelashes. I think they kind of do most of the work for me. And I I think I was told when I was real young. You know how sometimes you're told something when you're young and you're like, it's gotta be true, right? I was told when I was young that if you wear sunglasses, it makes you more susceptible to sunburns.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:59

It does.

SPEAKER_20 1:19:00

It's absolutely is that a real thing?

SPEAKER_01 1:19:03

It's not like sitting in front too close to the TV back in the 80s. Right. It's gonna you know destroy your brain and your eyes. No, it's there's there's a lot of factual medical data behind that now. And like I said, man, I look up some some pretty stupid things, and uh this is not though, I believe. I think it's true is when you when you when you allow your sons to be exposed to the UV lights that are naturally out there, your body produces a different chemical on the skin that has a natural SPF protection. So I won't even go deeper than that.

Knife Reveal And Better Commands

SPEAKER_20 1:19:31

Which when I learned this, Google wasn't even a thing. Uh so that's that's impressive. That's impressive. Um, Craig had a good point. I I missed it. Where'd it go? Oh, Craig said mainly to me it's just respectful to actually look someone in the eyes. I I agree. Um, you do have to be careful with that, depending on the culture you're dealing with. Um I learned this. Uh we I th I think it was an man. Yeah, that is an homes. That that I dealt with they didn't want that. Yeah, they saw they thought I was being disrespectful. And I was like, my bad. I'm just doing doing what I was raised to do. So um I'm just reading to the yeah, friendly Bob also said, There's science behind it, Eric. True story. So hell yeah, who would have thought? My I listened to my friends and they were right. Too funny. Um all right, let me uh good. I think we're I think we're all we're good with that guy. So let me go to my next video here. Uh let me smolly size this guy. Um, I don't want to watch that one. Okay, this is this one this one got a lot of engagement. There's a lot of uh I I'll preface the the biggest concern is why are the cops even out with him? That was the big concern. Now, I nobody gave me more on the story, I couldn't find more on the story. Um, so if anybody in the chat knows more about the background of the story, please let me know. One person couldn't substantiate it, so that's why I'm not really bringing it up. But they said that this guy had something to do with a missing kid, or they thought he did. That's I that's what the contact was initially for. But I couldn't find anything to substantiate it, so I didn't want to really push that out there. Um I suppose I need to share the screen. It usually helps. Things you should never do to a cop. Part one.

SPEAKER_05 1:21:44

Do you have any weapons or anything on you? Well, don't read for it. Oh, I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_20 1:21:54

My favorites that cop goes, Jesus Christ. I I think the I think by the time his brain caught up with the holy fuck, like it he'd already had it out of the kid's hand.

SPEAKER_01 1:22:07

But can't can we be mad at the kid with the knife? No, you know, it's it's our instruction. You know, you we've we've got to be the best when we're out there dealing with the public. And what I mean by that is when you give instructions, reasonable and prudent people, I know I keep saying that a lot tonight, are gonna answer and do what you say. He didn't say, with your hands being visible and not reaching for anything, can you verbally tell me if you have a weapon on you? Then you're gonna solicit a different response than what he got there. So it's all on how we address people to begin with.

SPEAKER_20 1:22:38

Yeah, somebody in the comments said, like, it's like asking if you have a quarter. Yeah, your instinct is to oh, even if you don't have one. I goes, you know what?

SPEAKER_15 1:22:48

Maybe that's a good analogy.

SPEAKER_20 1:22:50

Yeah, you just so your boy's like, do I check out this fucking Batman knife?

SPEAKER_18 1:22:56

Ask a bit of a weapon, don't reach for it.

SPEAKER_10 1:22:59

Can I just search that? Yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_19 1:23:03

Sorry, it just keeps screwing the pooch.

SPEAKER_20 1:23:08

Uh too funny. Um, it's not funny for that kid, but I gave props to the officers because they didn't get they they taught, they gave education. Hey, come on, dude, like you don't do this. They didn't get animated, they didn't fucking wreck him. And uh for a lot of people, because I did get, you know, a lot of the anti-cop crowd really hit on this one. Um, again, they wanted to know, well, why are they even stopping him? They can't just stop him. And I'm like, like, look, when you're within arm's reach, even if it's just this was the point I was making, even if it's just a consensual stop, the cops were like, hey, what are you doing this fine evening, sir? Would you think that it's a good idea to pull a big ass weird-looking knife in front of a cop within arm's reach? Probably not. I'm not saying what the kid did was illegal. That's not what I'm saying. The I just said it's things you shouldn't do. Because if let's go with the anti-crop crop, the anti-cop rhetoric about all cops are bastards, they're out just to looking to kill people and whatever. They just had the perfect excuse and they didn't do it. Not only did they not do it, they didn't even get ramped up. Like they was that's pretty chill. That was that's about as chill as it gets to pull, and I learned that the name of that knife is called a carambit. I never heard of those. I've seen them, I just I didn't know what it was called. So um and the fact your boy was just just had a holster for one. I it's crazy. So um, yeah, they didn't they didn't get jacked, nothing. Like they didn't slam the kid on his face, they educated him, and I think that's the best outcome you can get. Uh, because unfortunately, the last video I saw of a cop dealing with a knife to a subject that had a knife, um, the cop comes up, he's trying to talk to hey man, what's going on? It was in a parking lot, and he ends up killing the officer. Like, it was brutal. It was a brutal stabbing. Officer died. Um, you just hear him gurgling, like it's just it was bad, bad. Uh and um, so people are trying to say that well, if if cops are so scared of knives, they shouldn't be cops. I'm like, I'm scared of knives. I'm telling you right now, I don't want to get stabbed.

SPEAKER_01 1:25:36

That's a that's a human instinct, it doesn't matter what job title you have, it's a human instinct.

SPEAKER_20 1:25:42

And it and if you think you can do police work without being scared, you're out of your mind. You don't want a guy that's not scared in police work. No, you want somebody that can work through fear. I'm I've been scared a lot of times on calls. I can it's the fear. Fear is what makes you do stupid shit. Uh I've been scared a lot. I I've been scared a lot. I've been scared going hands-on, I've been scared pulling my gun, I've been scared getting shot at, I've been scared a lot, but I was able to work through it. Um, but that that fear of making fear makes you not think. I can think through scared. I can't think through fear. But uh yeah, if you think cops can't get scared or they shouldn't get scared, I don't I don't know that they have the humanity to do the job if they don't get scared about anything. So um you don't need PC. Project said uh you don't need PC to ask questions. Citizens need to learn how to say that's none of your business. That is very true. That is a great point. Um, yeah, and old school Jerry's on too. Jerry said, you don't need PC to just ask. The kid could refuse a hundred percent. And this is where I think officers could improve our relationship with the community. This is how we can improve our community trust.

SPEAKER_01 1:27:14

Yep. And let's just touch on that for one second.

SPEAKER_20 1:27:19

I'm not done. This is how we improve the community trust. When I don't have a right to stop you, but I am trying to ask a question, I need to inform you of that. I think to improve the trust, you say, Hey, I'm Officer Levine, such and such police department. Um, you know, I'm just out to have a conversation with you. You don't have to answer my questions. You don't even have to stop here and talk to me. Um, with that said, do you mind if I ask you some questions? See where it goes. If he tells you to kick rocks, all right, kick rocks. At least you ask. It's the same premise that I tell you guys when I ask people for ID. Hey, I'm Eric Levine, uh sergeant with this of the police department. I'm investigating something right now. Uh, you I was told you were involved. You don't have to give me your ID. Uh, you're not required to by law, but can I get your ID? Really helps me out. Um, but if you tell me no, there's nothing I can do about it. Like I educated you. Most people are pretty cool with the honesty. But if they tell you no, then then it's no. So, okay, Benny, your turn.

SPEAKER_01 1:28:21

No, and and that's very I'm glad you covered that because that's very common sense communications we have to have out there as peace officers. You you have to be able to do that, and more officers need to be willing to do that. Uh, but no, just in reference to Jerry Worms, I'm glad you got him back up there. Just as for those folks that don't know who he is, he was literally the first uniformed patrol officer in the very first episode and for many seasons was on cops. Uh, I grew up, not to not to age him, I grew up watching this man. Uh, and I'm gonna tell you, uh, at his age, not saying it's an older age, but the dude is still built to run friggin' triathlons. And and kudos to him for that, man. But he had a lot of great episodes in the early, early days of cops going into God, how long was he on there for? And I don't want to quote it, but eight, nine years. I mean, he was on there for quite a while.

SPEAKER_20 1:29:13

Yeah, well, he was he's an OG, baby. OG uh cops. Uh, he had the first foldable baton, yep, as he called it.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:22

Yeah, the nunchucks and nunchucks, yeah.

SPEAKER_20 1:29:24

He called it a foldable baton. That's the first time I ever heard anybody say that.

unknown 1:29:28

It's good.

SPEAKER_20 1:29:29

It's like, oh, the old foldable baton. Yeah, folks, he literally used nunchucks on on duty. Crazy. Uh he swears by them, too. Yeah. He swears by them.

SPEAKER_01 1:29:41

We've had him on the show.

SPEAKER_20 1:29:42

Yep, yep. Um, I need my mods to do uh some vetting because there's some uh nut job in here talking about random ass shit that has nothing to do with what we do here. No politics, Ember. No politics. Flex baton. Too funny. Um yeah, so again, back to the point of this kid. Somebody pointed out that we don't do people really teach their kids how to deal with police. I think that is a part of the the issue because you do behave different, or you should, should you behave different around police is how I should ask it. I I would think, you know, my kids know better. I told my kids don't you know, I got two girls. So the odds of them having to deal with police are a lot less, but I'm like, just don't dig in your purse, keep your hands just keep your hands visible. It's it's not that you have to, it's just it keeps everything safer because hands are the dangerous part. So that goes that goes into the question. How how do you teach your kids to deal with police? Um, and I think it all depends on the areas that you're at, the type of uh reputation your police department has. Obviously, cities that have a consent decree, I I bet they raise their kids to deal with police a lot different than the types of places we police, Banny. So um there you go, Ember. See, Ember, join the conversation. Join what we're talking about. Don't mess with the politics stuff. We don't do politics here. Uh he says, I teach mine too. Most people aren't even teaching their kids what to do nowadays, considering we don't even agree on what woman is or family anymore. Yeah, you know I don't think you're wrong there. Um communication has gone downhill with many new generations of cops. Agreed. Agreed. I think communication is definitely uh going downhill. Uh-huh. Tracy said, nope, not all parents teach children how to act. Simple class at school might help. Now, I just did I just did career day at my kids' school. And luckily it's the last one I'll ever have to do. But I had a I had a shithead kid in there that was trying to make jokes the whole time. And y'all know me, nobody gets jokes for free. I I was that kid, I was him. So as he kept trying to rip on me, I went right back at him a hundred percent. And then made that kid shut right up. So, but listening to him, I realized I'm like, man, like, no, no guidance, no guidance at all. Because the stuff he was, he was like, it wasn't like me. I was a smart ass. Like, that's one thing. This kid was like the stuff that people will troll on the internet, he was saying that shit out loud in class. I'm like, who does that? I've never heard anybody say the stuff trolls say in real life. That's what he was doing. I was like, I you know, internally I'm laughing, but on the outside, I had to kind of put a front on for the kids so they knew that that wasn't gonna be acceptable. Oh, let me uh let's uh let's give Ariel a shout out here for dropping ten dollars in the super chat. You guys know the drill. Any of the money you guys put towards us just goes right back into the show. It's not going into banning's weight loss program or into anything I got going on, just goes back into the show. But uh Ariel said the issue isn't parents, uh the issue is parents must know their rights and how to deal with police before they can teach the kids how to deal with police. I think that's a damn good statement. There's a lot of parents that don't know their rights. There's a lot of citizens that don't know their rights, otherwise they wouldn't be using us to uh do all the stuff that we have to do. Harrison dropping 20 20 memberships from Harrison. Thank you, Harrison. Harrison just got a new car, by the way. Uh very cool car. Uh but looking oh, I thought Jerry got a membership for a second. It wasn't Jerry, but friendly Bob got one. He's been talking tonight. Congrats, friendly Bob. Uh, I'm just trying to see if anybody else that's been chatting tonight got one. Let's see. We know Marines Blood probably didn't get one. Nope. Nobody else that I've seen chatting tonight got one, but thank you very much. Uh oh shit, Craig dropped 20 in the thing, too. Look at you two. You guys are appreciated. Thank you very much, you guys. Uh, give a shout out to Craig right now. Craig dropping 20. Um, looking through. Just want to see who got one. I like to give shout-outs for anybody we've seen chatting tonight. But I don't see anybody on the list for that one. And then we have another 12-month membership. Thank you very much. You guys find a campus police officer to have on here to have a us baby cops because it's the same regular police work, but different. Same, same, but different. You know, I could probably get some of the TCU guys here. Most of the TCU guys are retired from my department.

SPEAKER_01 1:35:15

Yeah. If you look at all the uh the the different types of police officers out there, I mean, I'd love to get one from uh from everybody on there from from I mean, heck, you got the game wardens, you have hospital police, you know, district police, uh, the the university police, just like she was saying. Yeah, I think it's very important to get those people on there and get their opinions on different things. They all go through the same training, same, same on some things, but then they have different training, uh, as we were talking about before for whatever facility they're having to protect in those people.

Otto Clip And Drug Conspiracies

SPEAKER_20 1:35:47

Oh, T-Bone got one too. T-Bone was talking tonight. He says, Oh yeah, thank you for the gifted membership. Look at that, guys. I love it. That's too awesome. Uh, Marine Blood was quick to let me know that he didn't get one. So what he's saying is our secret game is Marine Blood doesn't get one, you gotta drink. So Craig said, I drank. Yeah, yeah. Banning's fasting, guys. So the game is back on. All right, let's uh let's let's go to the next video here. Um, not that one. Okay, we'll go. So we recently had Otto the Watchdog on the podcast. For those that don't know, uh Otto is a badass First Amendment auditor. He's he's really a comedian that does First Amendment audit work, is really what he is. Uh, because the dude is hilarious. So we've been clipping out the interview that we had with him. Uh, really good. I wish we could have got him to sit in frame more often. I don't feel like he was paying attention to him being in frame. Yeah, he was like he was always half out of frame. Uh I love him. Shout out to Otto. Make sure you guys go like, follow, subscribe, all his stuff. Uh, really good dude. Very clever, very clever in the way that he um analyzes things. Um, which which made it even more fun for us. But I want to play a little clip of what we had him on here for. And we'll kind of talk about the topic because I actually looked into it and he was right.

SPEAKER_22 1:37:25

Not that I think he was wrong, but and then in Florida, just here recently, it finally came out to like uh accepted as truth that um police officers were buying. Well, I don't think they were buying the cocaine, but they were producing crack and then and then distributing it around town. What? And then arresting the users. You didn't know this? No, I never heard that one. Oh man, they didn't let you in on it?

SPEAKER_20 1:37:52

No, they did not, they didn't get a cut. Did you get one, Vanny? Some of the bitches for keeping everything to themselves.

SPEAKER_22 1:38:01

Um yeah, but they were doing that, and you know, that was uh that's something that has been said as conspiracy theory for my entire life. Uh I don't know when it started, but I always heard that it was CIA and Compton. And that the crack epidemic was was a CIA operation.

SPEAKER_20 1:38:21

I did hear that. I did hear that it was the government that that did that that part of yeah, that put dope into the streets and stuff. It is true. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Tragan let you know.

SPEAKER_22 1:38:34

Okay. Well, if that's true, and I'm just gonna assume that it is, because it's such a good story. I want to believe it.

SPEAKER_12 1:38:41

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_22 1:38:42

Uh it's a terrible story, really. Yeah. I mean, just think about the implications of that. Uh so that you you know what I'm that's pr pretty fucked up. Um not pretty. We're doing it in California and also in Florida. Where else were they doing it? And and do you think that that operation has just ended?

SPEAKER_20 1:39:04

So it was a good conversation. Um, I love, like I said, I I wasn't sure what to expect from Otto. It was kind of a uh it was kind of a like, you know, he just happened to jump on, and people were trying to network him to us, and turns out he watched some of the stuff that we did, and we got him on here, and it was great. And what are you laughing at?

SPEAKER_01 1:39:28

Wade Lasero's comment up there at the top.

Entrapment Questions And User Arrests

SPEAKER_20 1:39:30

What did he say? He's right, not CAA. It was D E A, but same same. He said, He's right, not CIA. It was D E A, but same same. That's gonna be our running joke tonight. Um so I looked into it more. And what the this is still a thing, by the way, Bany. So let's talk about this because I don't think I agree with it. Florida is allowed to sell dope and then arrest the people buying the dope. What the fuck? I don't think I've ever heard of that. I've heard of that, like excuse me, for like um when you're trying to bust a dealer, like like sometimes they'll sell large quantities of stuff they've seized to the dealer only to bust the dealer, but I've never heard of just basic buying of uh at the user level.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:30

It's it's it's even it's even happened in in Texas, but usually they'll use a pseudo, which just means a a version that looks like it that's not actually circulating uh narcotics. Yes.

SPEAKER_20 1:40:42

Um and I'm just not that much into the dope game, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_01 1:40:46

Yeah, I mean it's it's done, but usually most our most agencies will do it the the the proper way, if you want to say that, by using a pseudo, uh, which you know during the crack cocaine days, which was uh uh baking powder base that that looked like it and they would get the sale and then go knock down the car and and do the arrest, because if you look at the state laws and the penal code in Texas, you even have possession of the pseudo um is what it is, man. It's still still against the law.

SPEAKER_20 1:41:13

Yeah, and I think the problem that they were having is it wasn't just the fact that they were selling it, but they were making it.

SPEAKER_01 1:41:20

No, I don't agree with any of that. I mean, that's some of the stuff that we spoke about with auto. I mean, that's that's nut job stuff. And and think that our, you know, if it's actually true that our federal government was doing that and basically putting it out on the street, and what if you miss it? Then you've got a whatever amount that was just sold. And we, meaning the government, if you're if you're you know, in service doing that, you're you're providing it. I mean, what how how do you add the money that he gave you back into the budget of the American taxpayer? This was taken by this. I can understand a seizure amount of money going in and going through the courts, the civil courts, and everything like that. But I sold a nine bag of this today, and now I've got to put that back on. Come on, anyway.

SPEAKER_20 1:42:01

Yeah, yeah. Uh my buddy Frio, uh free free Jolito Beans on Instagram said, Great lighting, bro. He does he does cinema stuff, so he's he's complimenting the lighting that I got going on. It's too funny. Uh Ariel dropping another 10 bucks in the super chat said, uh, isn't the goal to get the drugs off the street and why isn't this an entrapment issue? Um, that's a good question. Let's okay. Let's uh let's look up the definition of entrapment first. Uh I will look this up right now. What is the legal definition of entrapment?

SPEAKER_01 1:42:48

If you don't specify a state, more than likely you're gonna get the federal answer.

SPEAKER_20 1:42:53

I I'll say in Florida, since Florida is what we're dealing with. In Florida, entrapment occurs when law enforcement induces, encourages, or causes a person to commit a crime they would not otherwise pre, they are not otherwise predisposed to commit, using methods creating substantial risk of the offense. It is an affirmative defense requiring the defendant to prove beyond a preponderance of the evidence. So I think where they're getting away with it is they they're not these people are out looking to buy drugs, not that they're going to that person and saying, Hey, do you want to buy this drugs? Would you like to buy one drugs, please? I think that could be the difference.

unknown 1:43:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 1:43:42

Again, I don't agree with it. I'm gonna put that out there. My personal opinion, Eric Levine's personal opinion on that. Bro, you're you're going after users, they already got a problem. This is a medical issue. Uh, I don't think we should be filling up our jails with people that are addicted to a drug.

unknown 1:44:00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 1:44:01

Uh however, comma slash period space. I think that we absolutely should have enhancements if you are under the influence of a drug and commit a crime. Just like if you're drunk and you commit a crime. Now there's an enhancement to that. Like uh if you get in an accident, but you get an accident while you're drunk, well, it's an enhancement. So uh I think there should be an enhancement if you're who is that?

unknown 1:44:30

I don't know.

SPEAKER_18 1:44:31

Did somebody just cough? Was that you?

SPEAKER_01 1:44:35

It might have been me coughing. Oh drinking this water kind of fast, so it could be me.

SPEAKER_20 1:44:41

Bro, that threw me off. I'm looking, I'm like, that was like a dog. Huh? Um, I think Eric needs reading glasses. I know I don't need reading glasses. I actually have perfect vision. The problem is, is my screen moves. It's not, it's when I click on the screen, if somebody chats or or says something, it moves the whole thing for me. So if you guys are see me like struggling to read, it has nothing to do with my eyes. It's the damn way that this system works. Uh that's why I like to put it on the screen, like this one. I will go. Why did they call him Poppy Bush? I don't even know what Wade's talking about.

SPEAKER_01 1:45:22

He's in reference to the to the poppy seed.

SPEAKER_20 1:45:25

Oh, is that what he's talking about? See, that's how removed I am from the dope game. I don't that was not my thing, guys. I I tried to I tried to work the dope game for a little bit in patrol, and it just I felt like you were cutting one head off a snake that just was gonna grow another head. So you just had to learn. You had to learn. Um now don't get me wrong, going after dope, you can get a lot of uh you can get guns and other violent stuff, but that's where I learned there's a difference between the user and the dealer side, the the people that are trying to protect the dope territory. That I'm all for going after those guys. Fucking get them. But going after users, like it's like setting up the bait cars in in a you know, really poor area where there's a lot of homeless. Like, I just don't. That's stupid. You're gonna get a homeless person that's gonna inevitably break into it and then go to court or go to, you know, have to go to jail, go to court, and the judge is gonna kick them out anyway.

SPEAKER_01 1:46:26

So I I I did get a kick of that show, I can't remember what it was called, but I think it was in New Jersey, and they had all these undercover trucks, and then they would put out the bait vehicles, and and the bait vehicles have all the the technology in it to record it, yeah, and they would get in there. And you you would unfortunately get some of those those true criminals in those cars, and and they're like just state, oh, look at the stereo, look at this, look at that. And you know, for people that want to take somebody else's property that doesn't belong to them, they absolutely deserve to be in jail. But I I used to get a kick out of out of watching that show as a as a young Buck police officer, uh seeing their different tactics. Obviously, different states do different things. We would never do something like that in Texas in reference to the bait vehicle in the way they did it. Um, but we do do things in Texas to deter crime as well.

SPEAKER_20 1:47:11

What are these people talking about? Country girl, what are you these ads on YouTube? Suck. We're not on YouTube.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:17

Who we're live on YouTube. I don't maybe she doesn't have live on YouTube.

SPEAKER_20 1:47:22

I don't know what you're talking about. Ads. What ads? I I don't I shouldn't have any ads. Is did YouTube do some new feature that we're not aware of? If you're talking about the videos that we're watching together, that's on TikTok. Or I'm not sure.

SPEAKER_01 1:47:37

I think that person we need to find out though if they're running ads on a live.

SPEAKER_20 1:47:41

Yeah, I don't like I've never heard of that. What are you guys talking about? That may be for our mods. Could you please look into that? Because I that shouldn't be happening. I mean, I don't think that should be happening. I've never heard of lives having ads on them. I didn't enact anything for that. So we'll we will get ads in the chat. Oh, YouTube's throwing ads in our chat, them sons of bitches. Yeah, we need to figure out if that's something we can get rid of. So all right, let's uh Okay, we'll go back here. Let's share the screen. Uh here we go. Share. YouTube randomly does ad breaks. Usually they can be skipped, but here lately it seems like they're making the 30 seconds unskippable. Ugh. That's terrible. I don't know why that is. That's not us, guys. I promise. We'll get rid of that if we can. If that's a setting on our side, we'll get rid of it. I just don't know what's doing that for y'all.

SPEAKER_01 1:48:55

Um even when I'm uh watch, if I if I can't get on and I'm trying to watch this thing live on YouTube, I've never had uh an ad thrown in there, even on a non-subscription based YouTube watching. So that's new to me hearing that we have ads running in the background.

SPEAKER_20 1:49:11

Marine Blood said running ads on live streams are normal, so I guess. Ugh, okay. I don't like that. All right, let's uh let's go to this one. Of all the people you could have gotten a car accident with. So pretty basic. It was a quick one. Um I just thought it was funny. I'm like, damn, you're you run a stop sign and you get you get T-boned because you ran the stop sign, and then the next thing you know, you get double tapped and you run into a cop. Like of all the people you could have fucking got an accident with, you hit a cop. Uh now turns out she was drunk as shit.

SPEAKER_15 1:50:00

Um according to what we yeah, yeah, yeah.

How We Do Body Cam Breakdowns

Machete Standoff And Radio Mistakes

SPEAKER_20 1:50:03

No, according to what we read, the the the female driving that vehicle, she was like three times plus the legal limit. So I you're not gonna get a lot of sympathy from me, but at the same time, it's just like, damn, like you could have hit anybody, but you ran into a cop car. Like, that's just the worst. So uh too crazy, too crazy. Um, where are we at? We're at uh just past the hour 45. I think it's time we we move on over to our to our uh body cam review stuff. So, okay, if you've never watched this, which I everybody I've been seeing in the chats tonight is is our normal crowd. I haven't seen a whole lot of new people, but if you are new and you're just lurking in the background, here's what we do we pull up videos, uh, usually from police activity on YouTube, which is where all these ones are today, and they're body cams that we've never watched. And we start to break down the videos as cops that we've done the job, you know, and you kind of get a mindset of how the call would go for us and how it may differ or be the same as the person that's in the video. The fun part for me is you guys also get to participate where you'd be like, Well, why did he do this? Well, how come he didn't do that? You know, you guys get to give feedback in your own way as people that don't do this work, and so you can kind of see the similarities in training and then maybe see where the training needs to improve. And this is a different way. Is it kind of Monday morning quarterbacking? A little. We try to avoid that the best we can. We do it a little bit, um, but mostly we're trying to give you the perspective of two different cops and how we handle a call together. Uh so while we do that, you can disable ads by turning off monetization. Oh, is that what it is? Ah oh my year of YouTube premium expired. Let's get it. Shouldn't be expired. I re I redid it. They sent me an email and said do you want to redo your year? And I did. Um maybe that's something that maybe I didn't go through. I don't know. I'll I'll ask my mods when we get we get more time. All right, let me uh share the screen. So yeah, this is uh fun participation thing, and I welcome everybody to join in. Um let's uh there we go. Okay, we're gonna biggie size this here. And we have not watched this, but we're gonna be watching it together for the first time. Uh, there's a lot of pausing that goes on while we discuss, y'all. So, country girl, why the hell am I being targeted? Sorry. Okay, let's go. Oh, looks like uh NYPD Metro stuff. So automatically, I'm gonna tell you right now, banning for me. If I got a citizen running up to me and pointing, my camera's coming on. I'm already turning my body camera on. So let's go from here.

SPEAKER_09 1:53:22

He just turned down. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down.

SPEAKER_20 1:53:30

All right. I can tell you from here, Banning, I'm keeping my gun out and I'm keeping that high ground.

SPEAKER_01 1:53:37

Yep. And and and a quick word to our viewers. If you've got kids in the room watching this, if you have, we don't know how this is going to pan out. This is obviously for adult eyes. We don't know what the outcome is going to be. So uh it could be violent. It could not be. So just know that.

SPEAKER_20 1:53:56

Yes. Um, but yeah, I I am not going to retreat. I am going to keep that high ground. Um I that's a lot, that's a machete. I don't know. I don't know that a a Spartan kick would work here. Maybe maybe some pepper spray or taser or something if I can get that out fast enough. But this happened. This happened quick. That girl came pointing, and the next thing you know, your boy is on the escalator, looks like her stairwell. Right there. Um I will say for me. This probably would result in a shooting pretty quick. I'm just gonna say for me, because I'm not willing to give up that that space. Because if he gets up to these stairwells, look at all the other people I have to worry about possibly hitting with gunfire. I'm more worried about all those other people uh than anything else. And if I let him get up past the steps, then he becomes a uh a wild card. I don't know where he's gonna go. This is not normal behavior. We talk about what a reasonable and prudent person would do. Uh Wade said, I'm gonna Spartan kick. Yeah, I would like to. My worry is that he hacks off my ankle. Uh I don't I don't want that to happen either. So, alright, we're gonna watch this together, see what happens.

SPEAKER_09 1:55:24

Put it down! Drop the fucking 412 central five.

SPEAKER_20 1:55:29

Oh my god. Bannon, you already you might already know where I'm gonna go with this officer that's on the radio.

SPEAKER_01 1:55:38

Don't communicate right now, just take care of business.

SPEAKER_20 1:55:41

Take care of business, but did you see what he did? With his did you see the radio? I'm gonna go back.

SPEAKER_09 1:55:48

Put it down! Put it down! Drop the fuck out.

SPEAKER_20 1:55:54

He's on a handheld. Yep. Using his actual hand. It is 2026, y'all. Get away.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:03

Where's your lip bill, your earpiece, whatever.

SPEAKER_20 1:56:06

And get a button. I don't know what to call it. Get a button. You don't need to be physically handling your radio.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:15

No.

SPEAKER_20 1:56:16

It drives me insane.

SPEAKER_01 1:56:18

Look, look, look at the state troopers just in Texas. And I understand it's for uniform appearance, but they're still not running lapels, and many of them aren't running earpieces. And half the time when they're on a traffic stop, they're running that radio broadcast through their PA so they can hear if their dispatch agency is hearing them. So now you've got, you know, people in the car that can hear everything that's coming through that radio, no problem, which that can amp people up if if something is said like warrant confirmed or something like that.

SPEAKER_20 1:56:46

Yeah. I I I just I don't and for y'all in the chat, tell me, like, do you have a problem with cops using an earpiece? I I don't see an issue with it. I think that that's the the best way. I'm about to sneeze. I think that's the best way to handle it. Sorry. Felt it coming. Um but you know, in in Project 1868 said that NYPD is way behind in equipment. I I've always paid for my own earpiece. Always. It's the the the particular one that I get, I think it's like 109 bucks.

SPEAKER_01 1:57:25

Uh I used to just go to Jones Hearing Aid, have my own port, and then go to radioaccessories.com with the gear I need for whatever type of Motorola radio that I had at the time.

SPEAKER_20 1:57:34

Yes. But because I can tell you right now, you get next to a loud subway, you get next to a loud bar, whatever it is. If you're going off a lapel mic where you gotta physically like put your ear down to the speaker, you're not gonna hear it. I worked in entertainment district for a long time. You can't hear those things. You have to have an earpiece. So it makes no sense to me why nobody has earpieces. You should have an earpiece. Because you don't want other people hearing uh people's information either. If you're running somebody's name or whatever it is, it's nobody's business what you're using private information for. Um but Jerry's asking, what's up with his rainbow badge? Uh it's for autism awareness. That's what that was about. So um Nina said she's I don't think I've ever seen an LEO with an earpiece. So really that's crazy. Um Big C said, My only problem with cops using an earpiece is I'm nosy and I can't hear radio traffic. Yeah, exactly. I like the honesty. I like it. Too funny. All right. Let's keep going.

SPEAKER_21 1:58:44

412 Central, 412. Because now he's got a tied up hand. Central, 412, Central.

SPEAKER_20 1:58:52

Yep, yep. See, there's a smart citizen. Get the hell out of there. Oh, he's running. That's perfect.

SPEAKER_24 1:58:58

Sir, stay here, stay here. Nail with a knife, nail with a knife.

SPEAKER_20 1:59:12

Okay, so now, from what I can see, you're you're bottlenecked. You can't retreat upstairs backwards.

SPEAKER_01 1:59:20

And he's got a friggin' brick in his hand right now.

SPEAKER_20 1:59:23

Oh, did he? Oh, yeah, yeah. Yeah, the officer. He's got both hands occupied. He's not even got his weapon out. So he's got to depend on this one guy with the gun to get business handled. And I don't know if you guys are aware, it's not like the movies. People can take 10, 15 shots and still keep walking and be a big threat. So let's uh let's keep going here.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:49

Get down!

SPEAKER_20 1:59:50

Put that radio away. Get your gun out.

SPEAKER_09 1:59:55

Put it down, put it down, put it down, please.

SPEAKER_20 2:00:00

He's suicide by cop. He's already saying shoot me. I just heard him say that. Uh he said, throw the brick.

SPEAKER_19 2:00:10

Craig. Uh Craig, throw the brick. Uh, all right, let's let's see here.

SPEAKER_09 2:00:18

Put it down!

SPEAKER_20 2:00:20

Let's hold on, I want to go back. Your boy has front row tickets right now, and he's loving it. Look at look at this guy. He's loving this.

SPEAKER_19 2:00:29

It looks like he's got a little smile on his face, like, only in New York.

SPEAKER_09 2:00:35

Sir, put it down! Put it down! Shoot me! Put it down! Put it down! Uh, crossfire. Yeah, I got you, I got you.

unknown 2:00:45

Put it down.

SPEAKER_09 2:00:46

Put it down! I don't even put it down!

SPEAKER_07 2:00:49

I am Lucifer! Put it down!

unknown 2:00:51

I am Lucifer! Shoot me!

SPEAKER_20 2:00:54

I am really so he's saying crazy shit, saying, I am Lucifer, I am Lucifer. Uh, and I didn't expect him to shoot right when I said that, but it happened. He was moving forward towards him. I can tell you already, I don't have a problem with him firing those shots.

SPEAKER_10 2:01:11

No.

SPEAKER_20 2:01:11

Because you you can't predict. Is it illegal to be crazy? No. But can you reason with crazy? No. You can't reason with crazy. Trust me, I've tried. Two shots. I counted.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:30

I got them. Shots fly in central. Shots fly in central.

SPEAKER_20 2:01:38

Looks like we got one, two, three cops right there at least. He said, oh hell no.

SPEAKER_09 2:01:51

Drop it. Put that down. Drop it. Put it down. Put it down. Put it down.

SPEAKER_20 2:01:56

Everybody's getting their cell phone cameras ready.

SPEAKER_05 2:01:59

Dude, drop the fucking knife now. Drop the fucking knife. Drop the fucking knife. Drop the knife. Nobody wants to shoot you. Drop the fucking knife. Listen, get him on the ground, please. Get him on the fucking ground. Get him on the fucking ground. Nobody wants to hurt you. We can talk about it. Get them.

SPEAKER_10 2:02:29

Get them.

SPEAKER_05 2:02:31

I'm not gonna ask you again. Please. Please. Please. Stop. Stop. Watch cross. Watch. Watch cross. We're not doing it. We're not doing it. Get down. We're gonna get you help. We're gonna get you help.

SPEAKER_20 2:02:55

That's the that's the de-escalation training. I can hear the verbiage. We're gonna get you help. I don't want to do it. Please. He's using all of the this this officer's trained. He's just stuck in a shitty spot. He can't retreat. And you know, your boy's crazy. And he's trying to do suicide by cop. Um even recognized the crossfire, communicated. Uh we a lot of this stuff we couldn't hear with this guy. Um, I really like what he's saying. Part of the problem is we got too many people probably trying to talk at him. Should have somebody should have taken over and said, like, I got it. Which uh this guy, the guy that ends up shooting, unfortunately, he he seemed to have it the best. So let's keep going.

SPEAKER_05 2:03:44

I have loosened the floor stop, huff him, huff him.

SPEAKER_20 2:03:57

Did you notice that that dude still didn't move? Yeah, he was he was uh you see him in the background?

SPEAKER_05 2:04:04

Stop watching watch, watch cross. We're not doing it, we're not doing it. Get down! We're gonna get you help! We're gonna get you help!

SPEAKER_20 2:04:13

I'm gonna pause it when I see him.

SPEAKER_05 2:04:17

Stop.

SPEAKER_19 2:04:23

Look, he's just lurking.

SPEAKER_20 2:04:26

This dude wanted to see his show. Everybody else was smart enough to get the hell out of there. That dude just like, nah, I'm gonna stick around and see this thing through. Jesus Christ. Uh good shoot. I ain't got no problem with that. Do you have any issues?

SPEAKER_01 2:04:45

No, no issues. And and you know, we can't see where the officers' eyes are looking, but I would assume they're checking their background. That lower level was a lot less um casualty-based than the than the upper level was. Um, unfortunately, in in cities like New York and some of these large cities, people are are seeing more and more, and they're just casually still going about their day. Um, you know, not with any angst to get out of the way or and go away since they don't get hurt as well.

SPEAKER_20 2:05:15

Is this true? Lawful uh lawful act said, Is the music in the background? How great is our god? I couldn't hear it, but that is hilarious if that's what it was. Steve said it's because he's a Raiders fan. Oh he did have a Raiders poncho on.

SPEAKER_15 2:05:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 2:05:33

Oh shit. Okay. Um Craig said the only real problem I see is the people coming down the stairs behind him. Yeah. For sure. Um but yeah, I there's really not much you can do with that one. So uh I'm alright with that.

Pursuit Ends In Gunfight

SPEAKER_18 2:05:53

Alright, let's go to the next. I'm gonna share the screen.

SPEAKER_20 2:06:00

Okay. Biggie size this. I guess that's full screen. There it goes. That was weird. Alright, let's play.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:20

Crash, crash, crash.

SPEAKER_04 2:06:21

Oh, he hit his car pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 2:06:23

Oh, he's losing control. Crash, crash, crash, crash, more spots. 1050, 1050.

SPEAKER_20 2:06:33

Okay, this is always a bad spot to be in. Um for me, I would have gotten a lot closer. Yep. I wouldn't. I would have went in and tried to pin this car. Because just when you think they're done, they're not done. Um, I can see that the airbag went out. So I'm gonna I'm gonna try to get close and use the element of uh I don't want to say surprise, but just I've got the advantage right now because his car is jacked up and he's probably gonna have to put it back in gear and start it back up or whatever. Yeah. So this is this is a pretty far distance. I'm guessing because they're so far back that this guy is a probably a deadly threat. This is me speculating. I don't know. But typically, when we stay this far back, it's because we know somebody has a weapon. That is a terrible enhancement. So we got a bunch of rounds getting flown.

SPEAKER_01 2:07:45

Yep.

SPEAKER_20 2:07:46

And do you see the light? Look at that taillight. I don't know if you can. Yeah, can you see my mouse right there? There's somebody in that vehicle. And I believe he just peeked out from the passenger side.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:00

Yeah, that was him.

SPEAKER_20 2:08:01

Yeah. So holy shit. But do you let somebody sit there and shoot at you?

SPEAKER_01 2:08:08

Nope.

SPEAKER_20 2:08:13

Looks like he just ran to the front of that vehicle. Yep, he's got a big one. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_18 2:08:19

We have not fire vehicles.

SPEAKER_01 2:08:21

Oh Jesus, look at everything behind us. That's dialing up some distance. I see somebody's got an AR.

SPEAKER_20 2:08:25

That is some terrible, terrible background, though. That would have me nervous as shit. Okay. That was uh that was a lot of shooting. That was a lot of shooting without uh without paying attention. I God, I hope nobody got hit on that.

unknown 2:08:45

Don't fire him, stop fire!

SPEAKER_20 2:08:47

He's still shooting though. Yeah, you can see him moving. My guess is he shot himself right there. I think we're gonna get another angle.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:05

He hit his car pretty good. He's losing control, he's losing control. Crabs, crabs, crabs, crabs, get more squads. 1050, 1050.

SPEAKER_11 2:09:19

Let me know.

SPEAKER_04 2:09:56

Are you okay? Are you okay? Get back, are you okay? Anyone else in the car? Okay, get up, get up, get up, get up.

SPEAKER_20 2:10:01

Good for him. Good for him. I like that. He was that was his top concern right there. He wanted to get over to that person. That's good police work right there.

SPEAKER_04 2:10:22

Secure that pistol, secure the pistol.

SPEAKER_07 2:10:24

Get him, get him, get him, get him.

SPEAKER_10 2:11:07

Shots fired!

SPEAKER_20 2:11:11

Sorry, I don't mean the Monday morning on this, but bro, you got the rifle. Like, you're the most important guy. Of all the things we need in the fight, you can't be the one that ducks around. I need you shooting. I need you putting rounds down range. Uh any of my military guys out there, like, you'll they they probably understand why I'm laughing. Um, I'm not of all the people that I have an issue with that. This is the one I've got the most issue with right now. And then you're just in no man's land. Yeah. I mean, you you've got no cover, no nothing.

SPEAKER_01 2:12:03

Uh that A-pillar would have been perfect.

SPEAKER_20 2:12:06

Right. He was in a good spot. I didn't like. I don't get it. Yeah, he just uh he just unassed and was like, I'm out. But now now he's in what I would consider the bravest position and he's not engaging.

SPEAKER_11 2:12:21

Get him up!

SPEAKER_23 2:12:24

Police police hands get him up!

SPEAKER_20 2:12:27

He's he's wrapped up, bro.

SPEAKER_23 2:12:29

Dumble! Hey, are you guys okay? Are you guys okay? Hey, check on everyone! Hey, is anyone happy? Are you guys all okay? Are you okay? Hey, call medical.

SPEAKER_20 2:12:51

Let's let's read on this one, shall we? Um, how do I find it here? Let me unbiggie size this. Okay. Uh Monday, April 13th, homicide occurred on 7th in Mitchell. Officers were seeking a vehicle tied to that homicide later on that afternoon. The same vehicle was uh Milwaukee, Wisconsin. Or I'm sorry, was involved in a shots-fired incident that occurred near the 1700 block. We don't care. Shortly after officers observed the vehicle and attempted to make a stop. The suspect later identified as 31-year-old, blah, blah, blah, blah, fled the scene. Vehicle pursuit ensued. The vehicle pursuit ended when the vehicle crashed, which we saw. Um, he exited the vehicle, fired shots towards officers. Officers returned fire. Umficers returned fire subsequently, striking the suspect. No one else was struck by the gunfire. That's good. Um he was the sole occupant of the vehicle, transported to the hospital, but he succumbed to his wounds. A 34-year-old that was in the crash was transported to the hospital treatment for non-fatal injuries. Uh that dude had gotten out of prison in December, and it's April, so only a few months uh for for burglary. So uh again, no issues with the shooting shooting itself. Um was a little perturbed by the rifle deployment being the last thing that was really in the fight. Should have been the first thing in the fight. But again, I'm not I'm not here to Monday morning quarterback. I wanted to talk about the whether it was justified, how we can improve. Um But Eye of the Night said, I see how it is. I comment on TikTok and you end the live there. I didn't even know we were on our live on TikTok, brother. That's just uh the way the service works. Um yeah, I didn't anybody else really have an issue with that. Uh Freeman said, and don't radio shots fired while the fight is still happening. Yes, thank you. Handle business and then deal with it. You had 12, 15 cops there.

SPEAKER_01 2:15:26

Some of those were riding three deep. I mean, this is obviously they're they're they're hot and heavy, uh, kind of like Grand Theft Auto when your stars get up to whatever number and you got everybody looking for you. That's that's where this was at. So yeah.

SPEAKER_20 2:15:40

And let's let me let me be fair. When you're not used to those high adrenaline type calls like that, and gunshots do start ringing your way. I get it. You start doing stuff that you're like afterwards, you're like, why did I say that? Why did I do that? Why didn't I just go after the threat? Why did I get on the radio? Like it we do that. I've done it. So uh I understand. But yeah, overall, I mean, even in the chat, everybody seemed to when everyone is yelling instructions, it's not easy to hear instructions. Very true, Ryan. Um isn't one person designated to yell commands? Normally. Normally you would hope that that somebody would take control. Freeman, another fucking ad. Sorry. I from what I'm understanding, it's not on my end, y'all. It's on y'all's end. You gotta have premium. Excuse me. You guys gotta have premium as well.

SPEAKER_01 2:16:48

I'm gonna start drinking a Red Bull with the friggin' uh mud water.

Ready Or Not Community Gaming Plan

SPEAKER_20 2:16:51

I know. I did get up early. Oh! Let me tell you guys why I got up early. I got up early because we got Chris Hatchet, one of our producers, working behind the scenes. Uh, dead leg and I. Um, we were waiting for Alan, but Alan had some family obligations. But we're still working to get the ready or not gaming where we're going to do 10 episodes of playing a police SWAT style game, which is very realistic. It's not like Call of Duty where you're just going in and wreck and shop. Like everything has to be tactically sound. You actually use real tactics, police investigations, stuff like that. We're going to be playing that. Um, we're gonna try to get Banning to play, but we gotta see what his setup can get first. But we're gonna we're gonna have that game, and as we get playing and as we start getting better, we're gonna start inviting y'all, the community, to come on and play with us. And the whole point is one, just have fun. Two, have a drink. You don't have to, but we're gonna drink, play the game, we're gonna do debriefs like we would do a real debrief and roll call. We're gonna talk through the police tactics side of things and why we did what we did, why we fucked it up, because we're gonna screw up. Shit. I think every time we've done a little practice run with me and deadleg and and uh Alan trying to get this thing right so we can stream it properly. We do stupid stuff constantly and we're all been cops a long time. So uh this is the difference between a guy that's never been a tactical officer. I've never been a tack guy. I've never done SWAT. Banning, did you do SWAT or was that was that I did you did? Yeah, see, I have it. So it's gonna be interesting. Banning's gonna be way better at this shit than me. But you're gonna hear the difference between communication and all that stuff. It's gonna be fun. I think it's gonna be fun. I think it's just a different look. It's gonna be a break from the body cam review stuff and just a way for the community to work together and talk, talk together a little bit more. Um Ryan said, My favorite part about video games is when you get shot, you just have to rest behind cover for a moment and you're all good again. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that's the only thing that's probably not as realistic. Um but yeah, you're not wrong. You're not wrong. But yeah, that's what we got coming. We're just trying to throw some different looks so you guys don't get tired of the same old thing, what we're doing. Um, it's been a while since we've had just what we're doing right now, and this is how we got started. So, um let me share the screen. We're creeping up on that two and a half hours, so all right, all right.

SPEAKER_18 2:19:38

All right, here we go.

SPEAKER_05 2:19:44

It's either turbo lag or extreme exhaust lead.

SPEAKER_16 2:19:57

Get off the road before your car gets hit. Move your car! You're still on the road.

SPEAKER_20 2:20:09

Did he say I'm FEMA? I'm FEMA too.

SPEAKER_01 2:20:13

I I have no clue.

SPEAKER_20 2:20:14

I I think I think he said I'm FEMA too.

SPEAKER_06 2:20:20

What do you got here? Why not?

SPEAKER_02 2:20:28

Yo, he's blocking traffic.

SPEAKER_20 2:20:32

All right, this is where I would turn to everybody, especially if I'm not the main guy. If this isn't if I'm just an officer on the side, this is where I try to go to the community relations side of things. Most of the time to de-escalate things like this for officers listening, it's just having a little bit of information. You go over to that person, hey, hey, hey, like I understand this is your community, and now we're not trying to disrespect you. Again, some look at it as kissing people's ass or whatever. I just call it placating. It's a de-escalation tactic. I'm gonna go over to this man and be like, hey, hey, this is what we got going on. Um, could you really do us a favor? We just I don't want my boss to come over here and yell at me. We'd appreciate it if you could move over there. If you have any questions or anything, just direct them towards me. I'll try to keep you in the loop of what's going on. And that's really how easy that is. Now I can tell him things without jeopardizing the case. And and make this person feel apart. Most of the time, that's what it is. Do I think this guy's drunk or on something? It sounds like it already. But again, I'm just trying to trying to make things go by a little bit better. Um, oh, this is the really long video, by the way. So we're not gonna watch this whole thing. I'm gonna fast forward. So they've been dealing with this guy now for 30 minutes. Now these officers are on a call for something unrelated to this guy, as far as I know.

SPEAKER_06 2:22:38

You know what the fuck is the fuck doesn't fuck them back to the moon. Look back in the minute to the money fucking died. Look back in the middle. Leave it.

SPEAKER_10 2:22:51

Leave it.

SPEAKER_20 2:22:52

So now he's if I'm just guessing. It looks like he's completely interfering now, taking their attention away from what they're trying to deal with, whatever tactical SWAT, you know, super ninja stuff that they're on. He's in the traffic, blocking the roadways, just being a nuisance to this call. Uh, at the very minimum. Would you say he's obstructing banning?

SPEAKER_01 2:23:18

Not now. He hasn't entered the scene. I mean, you can definitely have your tail guy, whoever's on the end, uh, and they're geared up for something. They're obviously gonna take somebody into custody that's got some warnings on them. Uh have your tail guy watching, but he has not entered the scene. Right now, he's just running his mouth. And there's yeah, run your mouth all you want, man. We're we have we we're here to do a job. We're gonna do that job. As long as he doesn't enter the scene and create a physical uh disturbance. Let's let's proceed on to what we're doing.

SPEAKER_20 2:23:45

Yeah, it looks like he's on his way over, though. Sure. It looks like he was crossing the road to come on over.

SPEAKER_16 2:23:54

That's it. Hey, Al Faro, hold this.

K9 Bite That Never Needed Happening

SPEAKER_20 2:24:06

Watch him here. All right, you got three, four officers. Do you need a dog here, Banning? You were a canine guy. No. I would not be using a dog here.

SPEAKER_01 2:24:19

Nope, not at all.

SPEAKER_20 2:24:20

Not not in a million years. We've got plenty of dudes. There would be no taser, there would be no nothing. We've got, and not only do you have a bunch of dudes, you got all the fucking alpha guys, by the way. Uh, so they should definitely be knowing what they're doing. Um, and exactly to what Big C is saying, mental health. Like, it's obvious this dude's either drunk on something or crazy. I think he's crazy. Uh, so let's uh let's keep going.

SPEAKER_02 2:24:50

Watch him. Watch out, he'll get bit. Watch out, he'll get bit. Watch him, he'll get bit. Hold it, hold it, hold it, watch out.

SPEAKER_20 2:25:02

Why? I this officer wants the canine officer wants to let his dog get a bite. That's what I see. He wants to he wants his dog to get a bite. There's no reason for it. You can see his waistband. He got his hands. Why do we need to use a fucking dog?

SPEAKER_01 2:25:21

You don't.

SPEAKER_20 2:25:24

Now does this guy piss me off? Yes. Is he a pain in the ass? Yes. Should I be taking it personal as a cop? No. So why the fuck do I need to use the dog? Why do I want to put my dog in that position? That's the other thing. I don't want my dog to possibly get hurt over some bullshit when I got plenty of dudes to handle it. If anything, use the dog to intimidate and keep these guys back.

unknown 2:25:54

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 2:25:54

That's maybe the best thing I would do. But I you guys, everybody that's watched the show long enough knows I'm a fucking I love dogs. And I don't want to see a dog get hurt. So on this, I'm already opposed to using a dog to begin with, because it's not necessary. So all right.

SPEAKER_11 2:26:15

Get him! Get him!

SPEAKER_20 2:26:21

He said, Who's biting me? I'm gonna go with this guy is crazy, but he keeps going, who biting me? Who biting me? Listen, guys, you gotta be able to find the humor in your job sometimes. Like just hearing the guy saying that. That's not a normal reaction to getting bit by a dog. The normal reaction to getting bit by a dog is like, ha ha.

SPEAKER_19 2:26:42

Uh, okay. Quit finding it.

SPEAKER_11 2:26:45

Quit fine it. Let go of the dog in it. Let go of my dog.

SPEAKER_18 2:26:48

Holding the dog.

SPEAKER_11 2:26:49

Let it get on my dog. Let it get on my dog.

SPEAKER_18 2:26:52

Oh, he does have the did you see that? He's holding the dog's front leg.

SPEAKER_01 2:26:59

This is the reason why you don't put a dog into this situation.

SPEAKER_20 2:27:03

Yes. I wasn't like I didn't realize he even had the fucking dog. But now I'm even more mad because you put your dog in a bad spot.

SPEAKER_11 2:27:13

Let me get up in my dumbbell.

SPEAKER_23 2:27:26

He just tried to fight the dog.

SPEAKER_20 2:27:29

Uh that's a level of crazy to have in that scene before.

SPEAKER_06 2:28:21

Bro, bring the clip on the two.

SPEAKER_20 2:28:27

Alright, I'm gonna just stop it because it's it's ridiculous.

SPEAKER_06 2:28:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 2:28:31

It's fucking ridiculous. You've got you've got the the the apex cops. SWAT. Or or some some form of them. And you decided you had enough and four of honestly, who I really blame is the canine guy. I don't feel like the I don't feel like the SWAT guys thought the dog was needed. That's why they didn't get off of him. And the the canine officer kept i'll get them off. I'll I'll bite. Like I got the canine. Like I think that that canine officer was Jonesing to let his dog get a bite.

SPEAKER_01 2:29:07

And you have a problem when you have that, you have that problem with the mentality of wanting to do that. We we use that dog as a last resource as a less lethal option. Uh when you have, excuse the terminology, a dog pile already of officers around them, that dog should have been pig pile should it should have been placed back into the canine unit so he can assist with the hands-on situation. Um, unfortunately, that's training. And throughout the years since when I was in canine earlier on in my career, these canine training places have just exploded across the United States, and a lot of the standards have been lost um to a different type of standard from from the time that I was in.

SPEAKER_20 2:29:52

Yeah. Eye of the night says, nah, this was Meal Team 6 and Tater Tactics. Now, I'm gonna give the I'm gonna give the SWAT guys credit. Everybody I see tacked out, they look fit, they look the part. Um and honestly, I think that they just wanted to go hands-on and get this guy on the ground.

SPEAKER_01 2:30:12

Uh I I I do hope the people that were off in the distance next to other unit still kept eyes on the house if this was a professional distraction to get a wanted person out of there, because we've we've seen that in law enforcement to where another distraction will enter the scene uh and opposed to getting maybe uh their boss, so to speak, depending on what type of racket's going on, uh, out of the scene, so he's not taking them to custody right then.

SPEAKER_20 2:30:37

Yeah, Steve said it wasn't just the canine officer, that officer gave up the leg. Well, the thing is if the canine officer waves you off, like that that's what you do, Steve.

SPEAKER_01 2:30:47

But I see what Steve was saying. He he he did present the pre present the open uh body appendage uh for the dog to latch on to. And if that that is the case, that's that's a problem.

SPEAKER_20 2:30:57

Yeah, and I'm not I'm not gonna like I don't let the dogs get near me personally. I get away from like because it I banning, you tell me how many times you've seen an officer get where he knows he shouldn't be with the canine, he ends up getting bit himself. I'm not getting in between them fucking.

SPEAKER_01 2:31:19

Oh, the dog knows a difference between a uniform and somebody that is such bullshit.

SPEAKER_20 2:31:26

Them dogs are assholes, they bite anybody. Yeah, yeah. I I ain't even trying, I'm trying to lower my chair here. Can't find the where's the give me a second. I feel like I'm too high up. Holy shit, I can't find the damn ah, there it is. Oh, too funny.

SPEAKER_12 2:31:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_20 2:31:51

So um I'm going to I'm going to fail the canine guy on this one. This is this is bullshit. He needs to be he needs to be investigated on that one. Why he wanted to bite. You could tell he wanted to bite from the start.

SPEAKER_01 2:32:07

It's an unnecessary use of force.

SPEAKER_20 2:32:10

Right. Um I'm it me as a sergeant, I'm gonna look and I'm gonna be like, you had freaking Hans and Bronze and all these other apex predator fucking cops there. Why did we need to let Bruno get a hold of a leg? And then possibly get hurt. Like, there's no need for it. And if the dog had got hurt, like if I'm your sergeant, that's gonna be your ass because that dog doesn't know anybody. That dog's just trying to please you.

SPEAKER_01 2:32:44

Yep. Dog unfortunately now you have even though the gentleman was maybe taken into custody and he's deemed whatever by whatever state, um, you're you're looking at a civil case now, the vicarious liability on that officer, and now liability on the department uh for make uh making uh unnecessary bite. You know, there's gonna be medical bills that are associated with that. There's gonna, I mean, it's just and it's not the dog's fault. The dog is being instructed by the handler uh to do different things. The dog's not gonna depict what is right or wrong, and that's why we have to have educated handlers out there.

SPEAKER_20 2:33:16

Right. Eye of the night. It's roid rage. Uh listen, y'all, quit quit jumping on the roid rage thing just because you got some actual fit cops. They didn't look juiced. They weren't they weren't out there just throwing haymakers. And I'll get okay, I will give those SWAT guys even more props. They weren't just dropping bombs on this guy, they were trying to just control manipulation, they were just trying to take them down, they were using wrestling, uh, which is great. They didn't try to hit this guy or hurt him. The key the canine guy was trying to. Um but yeah. Uh WTP and J said, I wish you and Chili DeCastro from Delete Laws would do a podcast. He's asked. I'm not doing one with him. I don't trust that dude. Um I listen, I am still a cop. That's the thing. I anybody that I do have on here on a live, I gotta be able to trust isn't going to be crazy. And he just I don't trust him. He reached out wanting to be on, and when I told him that I would, I just told I think I that I'd think about it or let me look into it. And he went off on a tyrant and how he just went off on me. I was like, all right, like you just showed me I can't trust you, so you're not coming out. Uh Freeman said, channel must be improving because I'm getting ads every few minutes. Damn. Yeah, yeah, eye of the night's right. Yeah, no, chili is bad faith. Yeah, I can't like this. Is guys, if you enjoy this platform, I think part of the reason is because I'm still a current cop. You just don't get that. You get a lot of retired cops that they'll get on and start doing their thing now, but I'm still in it. And banning was up until less than a year. Is that even been a year yet, Banning? Has it been two years? Holy shit.

SPEAKER_01 2:35:14

Two years and uh and about a week.

SPEAKER_20 2:35:16

Time flies when you're having fun. But point being, um Banning was still an active cop when we got started. And and I've got you know, Trey and Matt Thornton, also current cops. Alan is a reserve officer now. Um, so we I think it's important to have people that are still in it, and not that people lose touch, but they it's they do start to lose that edge and and know what the latest and greatest and all that stuff is going on. So I think that's what makes the difference here.

SPEAKER_01 2:35:47

And this this show is part of the reason why I still attend every law enforcement convention that I can, that I still go through certain online training programs, why I still and and keeping myself up on the legislative updates is I want to be able to provide factual information whenever my big mouth opens.

Discord Plug And Sign Off

SPEAKER_20 2:36:04

Yeah, yeah. Uh Eye of the Night said the canine did nothing wrong, the handler did. I agree. Um, Wade said Chili's been here before. Yeah, Chili's been in the comments before. Um, but on the actual show, no. Um and once I really learned who he was and his background and stuff, it just again, he's just I the I love I love Long Island Audit. I love uh San Joaquin, um San Joaquin Valley Transparency, uh Otto the Watchdog, um Kansas City Audits, uh FAPA. I like I like all these guys. They they just they to me they have a real mission, they're doing it the right way. I just don't understand Chile. I like he's too extreme for me. I just can't I can't. Deal. I can't. I can't I can't deal with it. So uh if I wasn't still an active cop, maybe. But the way it is right now, there's no way. Jeff Gray. Yeah, Jeff Gray would be great. I love his. Uh is Jeff Gray. If I I I get him confused sometimes, some of the auditors, Jeff Gray's the God bless our homeless vets guy, I think. Um, like his is perfect the way he does it, if that's the same person. But yeah. Yeah, armed fisherman. Yeah, armed fisherman would be a good one too. He just carries a uh a rifle with him when he goes fishing, and then people end up stopping him. I'm I may start doing a special on fishermen because as the person that used to go and fish any piece of water I could find, I would I had an extending pole in my my car. And I would I would I would stop if I saw a good pond, I would stop on the side of the highway, whatever it was. Because I grew up in Michigan, there's a lot of water, and I'd be like, I bet nobody's fished these waters in some years. And I go in there and get me a big old six-pound bass in Michigan, you know, that's a good size bass, man. Yeah, yeah. Everybody's saying yes, that's him. Yes. Okay, so that is Jeff Gray. Yeah, he's badass. I like him. I like him a lot. I'd love to get him. I'm hoping uh Otto can get me hooked up with Southern Law Draw. That's uh the next next dude I'm trying to get. Um there's uh there's there's a lot there's a lot of people I'm trying to get lately. Uh if there's any on the police side of things or the court side of things, let me know who you guys are interested in. I I really do try to get all the people you guys want. Um, that's really who I try to go after. Um, but I I try to keep it balanced. If I got you know, I got auto last last time, so the next time I'm gonna I got you know Bridget. So I was trying to get you know somebody on the criminal justice side, and so the next time I'll try to get somebody that's whether it's an auditor or or somebody that's a an ex-felon that's you know gone through the system, whatever it is, I'll try to get something like that. It is harder to get, but I do try. Um, I could definitely use y'all's help for that too, if you guys got connections. Um, but uh banning we've been going two to over two and a half. Um, I try not to go to three unless we're just absolutely killing it, but um yeah, everybody, I I really appreciate it. Tonight's been fun. Um, I got no other videos. Yeah, uh, no other videos here. Please look forward. If you're not on our Discord, please get on our Discord. Um, it's really how the community all talks to each other, and I know I don't get to get on it as much as I would like to. Again, please bear with me. I'm still an active cop. I have a full-time job. I'm a dad. I got two daughters that are teens, so I got to deal with orchestra and their stuff all the time. Um, my wife, she likes me here and there, so I got to spend time with her. Uh, and I'm a part of the National Real Time Crime Center Association, so I got that stuff going on. I'm trying to use that to make sure there's checks and balances for police around the nation for this real-time crime center stuff and this tech stuff. Uh, because I'm I'm in a really good position to do that for us. So uh yeah, Benny, what do you got?

SPEAKER_01 2:40:16

Man, I just appreciate each and every one of you for coming in and and putting your opinions and your questions in. That's the reason why Eric created this whole thing. Uh it's and it's great that we're I'm hoping we're striking a good positive chord. Let we're know let us know if we're not. Uh, we're hoping to reach as many people as we can, but thank you very much for coming on the show tonight with everybody.

SPEAKER_20 2:40:35

Awesome. Uh, Jim Minor says, Hi guys, hope you had a good weekend. Thank you, Jim. Appreciate you, brother. Jelly Roll. I wish I could get Jelly Roll. If you got a connection, again, if you guys have connections to somebody you'd like to see on here, that would help things tremendously. Uh, Eric has to work on his cop TikTok dances too. No, never gonna happen.

SPEAKER_18 2:40:56

Too funny.

SPEAKER_20 2:40:58

All right, guys. That is the end. We appreciate you. Check us out again next week, Sunday, 8 p.m. Eastern, 7 p.m. Central. Uh, thank you for tuning in, guys. Take it easy. Appreciate it, y'all.