Long Island Audit Sean Reyes Live! Arrested By A PBA President?

A police union headquarters. A journalist with a camera. A simple request for comment. Then a trespass arrest happens while the person is still walking away. That’s where our conversation with Sean Paul Reyes, aka Long Island Audit, starts and it gets uncomfortable fast in the way accountability conversations often do. We’re two law enforcement voices, one active and one retired, and we’re not here to run a police echo chamber. We want the facts, the footage, and the lessons that actually prevent the next bad arrest.

We dig into why Sean targeted the Suffolk County Police Benevolent Association in the first place: union political power, claims of backroom misconduct deals that cost taxpayers, and ongoing fights over transparency laws and public recording rights. We break down the private property question, what “continuous effort” to leave means in a real trespass situation, and why walking backward while filming can be both practical and lawful. Then we talk about the real driver we see too often: ego and unmet expectations flipping a contact from rational to emotional.

From there we go deeper on the “process is the punishment” problem: tight handcuffs, cameras shut off, hours in processing, towing and impound costs, attorney fees, and how public narratives can get shaped before evidence gets seen. We also talk training gaps, constitutional policing, and what departments can do now to stop arresting people for legally recording in 2026.

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Transcript

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SPEAKER_02 0:00

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Hosts And Guest Introductions

SPEAKER_02 0:51

All right, welcome back to Cops One Donut. I am your host, Sergeant Eric Levine, and today I have with me my co-host, as usual, Banning Sweatland. And then today, our guest of honor, once again, welcome back, Sean Paul Reyes. You know him as Long Island Audit. What's up, buddy?

SPEAKER_09 1:09

Hey, what's going on?

SPEAKER_02 1:10

Good for having thanks.

SPEAKER_09 1:11

Thanks for having me on your channel and my channel.

SPEAKER_02 1:13

Hey, hell yeah. So for those watching and they're like, what the hell is going on? Um, Sean's been on the show before. We use a program called Restream and we combine our networks and it just kind of helps get exposure to everybody. It's you know, it's team play, it's fun, and it works out. But if you're on Long Island's channel and you're like, who are these two guys? So I'll just tell you real quick. Um, I am an active law enforcement officer in Texas. Banning was an active law enforcement officer when we first kind of started doing this, and he's since retired, and now he's uh he works private sector. So um, but uh we are part of what we do is we try to bridge the gap between police and the community by one, not being a police echo chamber, as Sean can tell you. Uh, we want accountability as well. And one of the things that we've we do is we bring on the people that are pointing out what law enforcement are doing wrong to try to learn from them, to try to improve it, and then try to take those lessons back to law enforcement so they can learn. And law enforcement has learned over and over and over again from Sean of what not to do because he's been arrested 13 times in the last five years, as we were discussing offline. And the man has not had one conviction upheld, so he's doing it right, and the police are doing it wrong, and we need to learn because that's why he got started to teach us a thing or two. Is that right, Sean?

SPEAKER_09 2:41

Yeah, I appreciate it. Listen, I just want to say for those watching on my channel that um I've been on um Sergeant Levine's channel before, two cops, one donut, and uh I appreciate the work you guys do. You guys like review body camera footage, you know, and I I think you guys are straight shooters. I've from what I've seen, everything you guys do is above board. We've, you know, um, Eric, you and I have talked offline um numerous times now. And uh, you know, I appreciate what you do for your community, and I appreciate you what you do for you know, as in terms of bridging the gap between the public and law enforcement. I really do.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

I appreciate it, brother. Well, I know you've got limited time. And um, sorry, Ben, I didn't mean to cut you off, brother. Um, I know you got limited time, and you know, we're both trying to enjoy the one day off we have, and I want to get right to it.

Why The PBA Became The Target

SPEAKER_02 3:26

So, for those that don't know, I'll just recap real quick. Um, Sean went to do an audit/slash protest and uh journalist move. Um, and I like how he put it. I'm capable of multitasking, I don't have to do one at a time, and uh he was out doing that, and he got arrested in the process. And if you guys know his style, it's always the same because it works. Why change the formula? So, Sean, kind of give an overview of what that was like.

SPEAKER_09 3:54

Yeah, so the the whole reason that the Suffolk County Police Union, in particular, Lou Sevillo, who's the president of the police union out here, the whole reason he became on my radar is because he went to the steps of City Hall in New York City uh with a bunch of different unions from across New York State, and he was one of the keynote speakers talking about this legislation he's trying to get passed against what he said was auditors and people who record the cops and who it's basically like a Halo law. The one, if you're familiar with the Halo law that's uh passed in Florida, it's similar to that. I believe it's 15 feet um instead of the 25 feet, and it hasn't made it out of committee or anything yet, but he's using his political power. And as we were talking about offline, the unions here in the Northeast they have especially the Suffolk County Police Union, they have a lot of power, political power. Um, so he's trying to use that in order to uh get this law passed. And um, you know, me being born and raised in Suffolk County, Long Island audit, right? It's my whole brand. Uh, I saw this as a direct attack, not only on all of our constitutional rights and our first amendment rights, but an attack personally on me because I'm the only auditor where he's where he's from. So and and the crazy part is I've never really had a bad interaction with the Suffolk County Police Department. The Suffolk County Police Department has always upheld their oath, and they haven't arrested me or done anything, you know, engaged any misconduct with me until you know the other day.

SPEAKER_02 5:16

Gotcha. Um, now when you were going to the PBA, people are gonna this is one of the questions that was asked to me. What was the purpose? Like, what were you trying to accomplish when you were

Seeking Comment On Union Backroom Deals

SPEAKER_02 5:28

there?

SPEAKER_09 5:28

So I was trying to get some comment on him because there was a recent story that was just published in Newsday, our local newspaper here, that um law enforcement officers were getting these backroom deals between the union and the Suffolk County government where they admitted to their misconduct, and in exchange for admitting to their misconduct, they were given a certain amount of time, depending on the situation, whether it was two years, if they were two years away from their retirement and getting a full uh funded taxpayer pension, uh, they would let them stay on the the job for two years, and then that's when they would separate after the two years. Uh, but it wasn't just two years, five years. There was actually an incident where I believe his name is Jose uh Estrella, and he was using the surveillance technology that we have in Suffolk County to um, you know, inappropriately, I'll just say allegedly, and he admitted to general misconduct, and they told him he would separate he needs to separate from the Suffolk County Police Department in 14 years. I mean, 14 years. So in 2031, he'll have to separate from the law enforcement agency uh here. Uh, and I think that those deals are extremely suspect and cost the taxpayers a lot of money. If if somebody's engaging in misconduct where you don't want them to stay on for as long as they possibly can, then you should just terminate the relationship right there and there. You shouldn't wait until they get a full funded taxpayer pension. So I went there to speak to LuciVillo about not only that, uh, the legislation that he has, he's he's a very busy guy, the legislation he's trying to put through in in the state. Um, I was actually I I invited him to after the camera came. I invite I went to invite him to the the channel to see because I see how he goes on these things, and you know, he goes on a lot of podcasts and things, and he he's very good at what he does as far as you know, gaslighting and trying to change the narrative. Oh, they just admitted to general misconduct, but he doesn't get into the specifics of yeah, that was the agreement, but what did they actually do? Yeah, they admitted to general misconduct doesn't mean it wasn't that serious, and he's trying to downplay it. Um, and you know, he is as the union president, he's the big advocate for that department, and he's he's a uh proponent of um he he actually he's he's he wants to get rid of all of these transparency laws we have like 50A, which is like where you can get like criminal uh records from the the IA records from the law enforcement agencies, etc. etc. So I wanted to have a conversation with him, see if he would have a conversation with me. I'll be honest, I didn't think he was going to, um, but I didn't think he was gonna arrest me either.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

Yeah, well, luckily he didn't spit in your mouth. So yeah, that's a good thing. It's like hey, you you won that one compared to the last time we seen you get really, really arrested. Um now, when you were entering the building, uh, was there a request uh for you to not go in with their signs up that says not open to the general public? Uh, I'm just trying to get ahead of what they're probably gonna ask in court or anything

Private Property Basics And Leaving

SPEAKER_02 8:16

like that.

SPEAKER_09 8:16

So yeah, so there wasn't any the the property, and we can get into that with the actual charge because I think you guys will find it interesting when when I show you what the actual charge is. Uh, but the there wasn't any signs, the property wasn't fenced in in any way. Um, didn't say restricted area, there was no private property signs. I understood it was private property. That let me be clear. A lot of people um think that, you know, why would you go on private property? Private property, you don't, as you guys know, uh you don't, it doesn't mean you can't go on it, it just means that you can't stay on it if somebody tells you to leave, um, which is what I was doing, obviously. But there was nothing. Uh in the vestibule area, there was like you couldn't get through to the next level without being buzzed in. Okay. So I was just waiting for them to buzz me in. I know I rang the doorbell and I'm I'm waiting to speak to somebody.

SPEAKER_02 9:04

Okay, yeah. It's no different than going into you know uh a sports club or anything like that, and they have doorman or whatever. Instead of doorman, you just had a secured door. So you're allowed to go up there, and then once they get to the point where they're like, No, you can't come in, then you then you gotta go. That's it. So, for what you did, for what I saw, let me get this out there. I already watched everything. So, uh, from a cop's perspective, Benny, did you get a chance to see his video?

SPEAKER_00 9:32

I got cut off about a quarter way through it. I didn't get to see it all.

SPEAKER_02 9:35

Okay, so um from what I see from a cop's perspective, you went on, you you talked, you asked, you're trying to ask questions, and they told you to go. You immediately said okay, and you started moving. Now, where the law is at, there's no speed requirement, it's just continuous effort, is really what it comes down to.

SPEAKER_09 9:55

And you made no lingering, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 9:58

You made continuous effort, and you didn't make an attempt to um take the longest path possible or draw it out or anything like that. You just started moving, which is what you want. Now, you're a journalist, they should expect no nothing less from a journalist that did what you did. You recorded, walked backwards, and continued to move while agreeing to go, and you didn't curse, you didn't do anything profane, you didn't do anything out of order. So, this is me as a cop looking at your demeanor, how you're acting, what you're doing. For me, that's like the perfect person to deal with. I would have been like, all right, hey, brother, like, look, we don't want to, you gotta go. And I wouldn't have followed you, I would have just said you gotta go.

SPEAKER_09 10:39

And all right, you know, I just thought of this really quick. You know, they they didn't even have to, you know, they came down five deep. Um, you know, the treasurer, the union president, uh, I don't know who the other individuals were, but there were five of them in total. You know, they could have just had the front, there was somebody working at the front desk, they could have just had somebody at the front desk just come to the door, or if there was a speaker, just say, Hey, you're not welcome here, you need to leave the property. And me, the law-abiding citizen that I am, would have left the property without any any problems, any problems, and I probably would have left a lot quicker because I had no one to talk to on the way out.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

Um, so uh that was to me a clear presentation of power. That's what that was. That was a flex, and that was ego because there's there's no need to make that type of contact. There's really not. If you got a door guy, let the go door guy do his job. Hey, tell him he can't come in, he's gotta go.

SPEAKER_09 11:35

Yeah, for the police union president, the guy so powerful like that, some somebody who to who thinks he's so important, you know, for him to come down himself to escort me off the property seemed you know, it wasn't a wise decision on his part, that's for sure. And I think that's that's pretty obvious at this point.

SPEAKER_02 11:50

Yeah, and correct me if I'm wrong, you didn't force entry, you didn't try to get in, you didn't do anything. You just knocked on the door, rang the doorbell, and you're standing there with that lady. Who is that lady?

SPEAKER_09 11:59

Uh, she was a real estate agent, I believe, or she was something to do with a real estate deal. She she was late for a closing, she said. So, in that office, I've I've later found out in that building that that's owned by the PBA, the police union. Um, there's actually multiple things, multiple businesses in there. Real estate broker, uh, you know, businesses that would help a law enforcement officer if you're buying a house. Um, you know, you need a tax attorney. Uh, I believe there's a wealth fund there, I guess for your 401k or whatever. You know, they have a lot of different things that I'm I'm sure cater to the law and the that agency.

SPEAKER_02 12:36

Yeah. Um, now when you were leaving, now I I know we've kind of discussed this, but at no point there could have been nothing that was like, oh, he stopped. He's he he's putting his feet down, he's not going anywhere. Or were you always moving the whole time?

SPEAKER_09 12:51

Yeah, I was always moving the whole time. And and the good thing is if you look in the reflection of the uh the glass there of their building, you actually see me moving again, albeit slowly. I have no problem saying that I was moving slowly. Well, that's what happens when you're walking backwards, you're not gonna speed walk back. I can't teleport off the property, I'm not gonna turn around and sprint. So I was walking backwards, and people, oh, well, why are you walking backwards? It's very simple. I have five armed individuals who are looking to do harm to me following me outside of the building. So I'm not going to turn my back to them because number one, I need to be recording them at all times. Number two, when I turn my if I were to turn my back to them, they could say that I was reaching in my waistband, doing something that I would that I'm that you know, now when I'm facing them, they could see my hands, they can see what I'm you know, have a microphone in my hand, like a recorder, and the camera in the other hand. Um, it's hard to find a cameraman. I try to get a cameraman for this one, but it's hard to get a cameraman when they keep getting arrested. Um, nobody wants that.

SPEAKER_02 13:52

So right. Uh I understand. Um, before I keep going down this path, Banning, you got anything you want to chime in on, brother? I know I talk a lot.

SPEAKER_00 14:01

No, sir. I'm I'm just excited to hear all of this. Like I said, I didn't get to see it, and I don't want to, we we got a limited time. We could watch it.

SPEAKER_02 14:08

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 14:09

We could absolutely do that. We can.

SPEAKER_02 14:11

I don't want to eat up. I want to get through some of these questions. Let's do it uh first, and then we'll it then we'll if if you want to go through the video, we will go through the video. Um now I want to get into the ego side of thing, and this is what I want your audience to understand. One of my important things is when it comes to law enforcement. What gets us in trouble the most is our ego. Cop's ego is enormous, and one of the biggest triggers to ego is unexpected uh or unmet expectations, I should say. So the moment that you didn't leave in the manner in which he wanted or preferred, that you already triggered that logical, rational thinking over to his emotional thinking. So when you triggered into that emotional thinking and he was trying to tell you he wanted you to get off there faster, and you weren't doing it, but you were continuing to move and you knew he didn't have anything until the moment you figured out a way to flick that ego right in the forehead, and then you said something to the effect of uh go ahead and arrest me. Go ahead and do it. Yeah, I'm gonna arrest you. And you said, Go ahead and do it. And you that that was it. That was in and again, it doesn't matter what level you're at. If you do not have control of your emotional triggers, that's it right there. You're done, and you had him.

SPEAKER_09 15:31

You have to control your emotions, and obviously, Lucivillo, the president of the police union, does not have any control over his emotions. And and in my experience, the cops that engage in this kind of you know misconduct and constitutional rights violations, like a Fahy, Patrick Psycho Rider, police commissioner of Nassau County, these individuals they have no control over their emotions, they they're just they're just reactionary, they don't think, they don't critically think about anything, they don't assess a situation. And to me, that's super dangerous in a field like law enforcement when you have to make split-second decisions. Um, you have people's lives in your hands, people's freedoms in your hands. And if you can't make a rational decision and you can't take time to actually think about what's going on and control your emotions, listen, I'm not saying that he had, you know, he could be upset. Anyone, I have no control over people's feelings. You can be upset all you want. I was upset when you put the handcuffs on me, but I didn't go spit in his face and try and bite him. And you know, I didn't try and throw him, you know, he's a smaller guy than me. I didn't throw him over while he's trying to, you know, handcuff me. I complied with the arrest and I didn't resist and I was arrested. And he you put that we could talk about the handcuffs in a second of my pinched nerve, but you know, it it because I control my emotions, you know, in that moment, I I am extremely angry at this individual for taking my freedom away from me, putting on the handcuffs really tight. But I know better than to just go and attack a law enforcement officer. I know better, and just like he should know better than to violate people's rights. But the difference is, and this is the key difference, Eric, and I think you'll agree with this. The difference is is the reason why I know there would be serious consequences if I were to fight back that unlawful arrest. And and and there's serious consequences, felony charges, if not uh an ass whooping, right? An ass whooping and felony charges. He can do what he does

Ego Triggers And The Arrest Moment

SPEAKER_09 17:14

because he knows that he's gonna get away with it. You know, eventually the taxpayers might have to pay something, but he's gonna get away with it. So that's that's why, in my opinion, he's he's he can do what he does, he can do what he wants to do.

SPEAKER_02 17:25

Yeah, it's and it's unfortunate. Um, it's one of the things that we for those that don't know, we actually at where I'm at, um, you guys won't hear me say my department, I have to keep it separate. Uh, that's one of the weird things about being an active cop and doing this, is like you do kind of walk a fine line. So I try to you're one of the only ones. You're one of the only ones, one of the only ones. So, in that, we actually put on an ego course at our at our academy, and we teach officers one, what is ego? How do you know when it's triggered? And how do you mitigate it? We're actually giving them the tools they should need and use to help realize when you're going through something like what you just went through on there. And um, I think one of the times where I could not believe the fact that you were able to keep your shit together was when Faye spit in your mouth. Um, bro, like I still hats off to you because I would have I I thought you I you obviously got upset, but at the same time you were still able to keep your stuff together.

SPEAKER_06 18:28

Um that's that's important.

SPEAKER_09 18:31

The reason I'm able to do that, and that was probably the one time I probably wouldn't have been able to do it if he didn't have the gun in his hand. Honestly, I don't I don't know what would happen if he didn't have the gun. I was cognizant of the gun in his hand. Um, and I knew, but you know, spitting in someone's face and in their mouth is the most vile thing ever. But you know, I I realize the moment I'm in and I realize what I need to do and how do I need to conduct myself. And you know, just because someone spit in your face and somebody or somebody punched you or something like that, you know, I've I've I was young and stupid at one time. I'm I'm grown now, I'm 35 years old, and I'd like to think that I'm a lot smarter now and more in control of my emotions. So, you know, when somebody's you know, you know, at the bar and they step on your sneakers, like when you're young, you might want to get angry and fight them, or you know, but now that I'm older, I'm like, hey, you know, no worries, dude. Like it's not a big deal.

SPEAKER_02 19:21

Uh one of the questions from the audience was what is the damage to your truck?

SPEAKER_09 19:26

Okay, so the the the billboard truck, I I don't know the if there is any damage or not yet. I've been super busy here at at home and with you know editing these videos and and putting this all together and planning everything, getting my attorney, you know, doing everything, but uh planning for the protest. We there is, and I just want to say this really quickly, there is going to be a protest on July 1st at 1 p.m. at the Suffolk County Police Benevolent Association headquarters. Um, on the public sidewalk, of course. Uh I am not invited to go back uh ever again. So, but the pub there's a public sidewalk right out front, so that's where we'll be protesting. I'll have like merch, you know, we'll order some refreshments, maybe some pizza. But you know, it's just we didn't want to send a signal uh to the residents here and to the uh PBA that you know we're not gonna tolerate this.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

Okay. So you get arrested, your truck gets taken, impounded because it was running on a public street, I assume.

SPEAKER_09 20:18

Oh, it was in their parking lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:20

Oh, it was in the parking lot.

SPEAKER_09 20:21

Okay, it was in their parking lot, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 20:22

I got you.

SPEAKER_09 20:23

Private property. It wasn't it wasn't towed by the Suffolk County Police Department. It was even you know, it's kind of hard to split hairs here, but it wasn't officially towed by the Suffolk County Police Department, which I guess is a good thing because you know they don't get to search it at that point, you know, there's nothing to find. But um, it was towed by the Suffolk County Police Benevolent Association, the police union. Uh, they had it towed. Um, there was they didn't have the keys, so they had to like put it on, they had to like take off the drive shaft or whatever and then put it back on and um all these different things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So they they they towed it um the next day, and the problem was is that the there's a generator, there's a diesel generator inside the billboard truck that powers the the LED screens all around it. Um, so they didn't turn that off because they don't know how to do it and they they wouldn't go back there anyway, I guess. But um it was of running the whole night. So, you know, I've been told by some people that a diesel generator could have problems if it just runs out of and it stops like that. Uh, I don't know much about generators or engines or anything like that, so I don't know, but um, you know, I was told it could have a problem, but you know, I'm Danny's a country boy, he could tell you.

SPEAKER_00 21:32

You're never supposed to run a diesel empty, and you have a fuel delivery problem, pump problem, and you yeah, it can cost some money to get it fixed if it if it happens to break on you.

SPEAKER_09 21:41

Yeah, it's an expensive uh generator. So, you know, I mean we'll see. I'm gonna fill it up with diesel, and you know, I guess I'll call some sort of it's kind of hard. I don't know anybody that works on you know generators, but maybe a mechanic I know or something. But I I won't start it until I guess I gotta see. You know, at the end of the day, if it breaks, I gotta pay for it and eventually the EPPA will be paying for it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:01

See, and this is this is part of the problem with how the system runs is you know, the old famous saying, you can beat the rap, but you're not going to beat the ride. And that seems to be what was here. We had POP, which is classic for pissed off police for those that aren't used to the vernacular. And so you're classic pissed off

Tow Truck Fallout And Generator Risk

SPEAKER_02 22:21

police, ego took over. You're not going to tell us. Again, I did not see a violation in your video. I saw a person that was told to leave, that decided to leave, and continued to do so, gets arrested. Now they're putting you in cuffs. I they took your cameras. Did they shut them off?

SPEAKER_09 22:39

Yeah, the treasurer, CJ Hunter, he took my camera and he shut it off. Yeah. And they didn't have any body cameras or anything. So that was kind of like a dead spot until the treasurer actually began recording with his cell phone. Once I told the union president I was going to put my billboard, I said, now I'm going to put my billboard truck in front of your house. And he's like, Oh, you're threatening me? Start recording him. And then that's when the the treasurer started recording me. And as soon as he started recording me, I'm hunched over. Cuffs are tightest I've ever had, and I've been in a lot of handcuffs. Um, tightest I've ever it was it was it was excruciating, really. And so I'm bent over and I look into the camera, I'm like, I'm Sean Paul Reyes, I was just unlawfully arrested. And I start like uh I start narrating this whole thing to their camera or whatever. Um, and they're going back and forth trying to debate me. It was like 10-15 minutes I was like that. Um, in those conditions with those handcuffs like that, because they would not, you know, they would not loosen them. I was begging them to. Uh eventually the uniformed officers did, who were actually very nice. Uh they eventually did. But yeah, so there's there's gonna be a recording that comes out of we were we were arguing back and forth uh about the arrest, you know, the misconduct, everything.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

Yeah. Well, I told you that one question to keep in mind for your attorney later. One that the public should know, uh, that I think they should know is if he recorded that on his phone, it's open to discovery now.

SPEAKER_09 23:58

Yeah, I would I would assume well, I I I did my I did my part already because they the PBA issued a statement immediately after this, and they they reached out to the New York Post. So the New York Post put out an article about this uh arrest within hours of uh it taking place. Um and then the so basically they covered it. So they have and they made a statement where they said that I went there with the intentions of threatening and intimidating PBA um uh members, uh, that I went there to illegally trespass. Um, so I I'm considering a defamation lawsuit against the PBA itself, but for now I already sent them a demand letter of retraction letter with a litigation hold. So, and I specifically noted in the letter that I want them to preserve the video evidence that CJ Hunter, the treasurer, recorded. Because now if they delete it or lose it or something like that, um, that's going to be used against them in the lawsuit. But as far as your your question about discovery, I would assume it's a good question. I've actually talked to my lawyer about this, and you know, it I don't know if the treasure, I don't know if the treasurer is with active law enforcement or not. I'm assuming he is because he participated in the arrest. So to me and to my lawyer,

Cameras Shut Off And Evidence Control

SPEAKER_09 25:08

when he participated in the arrest by turning off my camera and grabbing me with the president, he's now a law enforcement officer, and therefore that recording he's taking is now not only public record, it's it's something that I could subpoena um for this case. Because the DA, let's be clear to everybody watching, the DA doesn't have to hand me over everything, they only have to hand me over what they're going to use against me in trial. So they at the end of the day, uh, you know, we'll have to issue a subpoena for his phone um for his uh recording. But then when the law enforcement has got there, there was body cameras rolling, so I'll be getting that as well.

SPEAKER_02 25:42

Okay, so you get hooked up. Um, how how was the arrest process itself?

SPEAKER_09 25:49

Um, they drove me, it was like a 15-minute drive to the third precinct in Brentwood. Um, you know, it was the the again the rank and file law enforcement officers here. I I've never had a problem with them. Um, as you know, why I'm on your channel right now and my channel, but on your channel right now, and why we have a relationship is because I'm not uh somebody who is anti-police. I believe in nuance. I I think that um there are a lot, I have a lot of law enforcement officers who I call my friends, and I think they're upstanding people with integrity. Um, and I say that, and I get a lot of pushback from people on my channel for saying that. Uh, not a lot, but some people on my on my channel for saying that. But at the end of the day, you know, I gotta I gotta call it how it is. The problem is the pol, especially here in the Northeast, the police unions and the uh leadership of the department, uh, especially when they're colluding with the politicians, up to no good, uh covering things up to keep it from the public, uh, you know, violating people's rights and the politicians are not holding the leadership accountable. So to me, it's more of a system, a systemic problem and a culture problem um in departments. It's not like on an individual basis. Because when I was there getting processed, yes, there were people coming in after me that got processed before me. Um, so I, you know, I was there longer than I probably should have been, because in New York we have bail reform laws, and you, you know, for a charge like this, which is criminal trespassing in the third degree, you would get what's called a desk appearance ticket and a court date and be on your way. Um, that could take as little as like two hours. Uh, but I was there for seven hours. Um, and I I know that was done on purpose, but again, I don't attribute that to the the law enforcement officers who were actually processing me. Again, I attribute that to the the union leadership. I was arrested by the PBA president. Um, so he has a lot of uh pull there, and then also the leadership of the actual police department um to to actually drag out my processing. But as far as the rank and file guys, they were great. Um, I have no complaints, they didn't do anything. You know, people like, well, they didn't do anything to help you. I'm like, What are you they're gonna break me out of the back room? I mean, right, but they they were nice. They asked me if I needed something to eat, some, you know, something to drink. Um, you know, they weren't they were nice.

SPEAKER_02 27:53

Yeah, I just I can't.

SPEAKER_09 27:55

I gotta tell people they're my neighbors, these would be these people are my neighbors, they're they're they're my neighbors. I I I I did my hometown police department, and again, I'm not an anti-police guy, and I have respect for my law enforcement officers here that do their job and do it right. And I I you know these guys seem like good guys to me, you know. If they proved otherwise, and and it's so simple, it's very simple. If you prove to me otherwise, then you become a target to be exposed. It's that simple. I have no loyalty to anyone just because I qualify. If I found out tomorrow that you, you know, choked some old lady and threw her into the ground and and beat her up, and I I would do a video on you. I don't on your channel, I would it doesn't matter that we have a we're we have a friendly relationship, that wouldn't matter to me.

SPEAKER_02 28:35

Right. Fair enough. And and banning, you can join in on me with this one, but one of the things that the reason why I I bring

Police Culture Problems Beyond One Officer

SPEAKER_02 28:44

so many first amendment audit people on and and and discuss the stuff and have it on there is because I see what y'all do as a beautiful freedom. There is nothing more American than holding your government accountable, having some sort of checks and balances, and and trying to balance that power out. And one of the ways you do that is simply just filming. It's not that hard. It's a First Amendment protected right that's been clearly established by the courts, um, especially when you're in a public place. And I I look at like I know some people get annoyed with First Amendment orders. There's a lot of cops that get annoyed with First Amendment orders and say they're out there, they're frauditors, and they try to use this language, and I shut them down every time. I'm like, you show me another country that you can do this, that you can go and film your police departments or or whoever without fear of retaliation or retribution. Now you're supposed to be able to do that anyway, and you can't do that in other countries, you cannot do that, but you can do it here, and that's why I fight so hard to try to wake my own people up on that aspect of it. Um, and and Banning has is joined in on the same thing. Banning, what's your thoughts on it?

SPEAKER_00 30:01

I I've got a lot of thoughts on it, and you know what you do, Sean. I've been following you for a long time as well. And hats off to what you do. Uh, and yes, some of the people that that watch us, but as a cop, yeah, absolutely as a cop, we have to, and I attribute when I share somebody new that maybe hasn't seen your platform, I said, I want you to watch this new kindergarten class because it's like the cops are the kindergartners in this thing, you're the teacher coming in, and sometimes we have to have some hard lessons, and that needs to be learned. And it's it's reality. Um, and I love the fact that you're you're doing this because of people like you, we don't realize how long as a country, how many times has our has our rights been taken from us illicitly? And and this is opening up a big picture to that. And and I had a question on top of I mean you might be able to answer, maybe you your attorney can shed some light on it. But is the union up there, is it held under a 501c3 or is it a LLC? Is it a corporation? Do you know how they hold that?

SPEAKER_09 30:59

Um, I do not know. I definitely I should know that, but I definitely don't know that. Um, I know it's dot org, so they're an organization, like they're, you know, they're not uh it wouldn't be not a commercial, you know, business or whatever. So I don't know if they're like a nonprofit or how they're exactly labeled. Um, might be a nonprofit. I all I know is they put money in politicians' pockets and they defend bad cops and they leave the good cops out to dry.

unknown 31:23

Sure.

SPEAKER_00 31:23

And and and something else, just to, and I'm sure your attorneys, I mean, you guys have been doing this and thinking about a lot of things, but I haven't seen that part of the video that you and Erica were just discussing on the actual when they when they took you into custody and that there was the, I believe it was the treasurer that was videoing um and then got involved with it. You know, if if he wasn't on duty, that could also be considered what's called posse comatatis, if he's either asked to help and or volunteers to help and and put himself into the capacity at that time, right? And then he's blanketed under the policies and procedures of law enforcement. And I'm sure you guys have already, but these are the type of things that just kind of go through my head.

SPEAKER_09 32:00

But yeah, that's that's that that's what it's looking like. Uh that he's, you know, they were all acting in their official capacity. Even the president pulls out his badge, and the president of the police union pulls out his badge, and he's like, you know, I'm a law enforcement officer. Uh so he identified himself as a law enforcement officer to me. Um, you know, it it made no difference whether he's the union president or law enforcement officer. I, you know, I fear no man, and at the end of the day, I fear no cop that when I'm not breaking the law. So I mean, and I just want to say, you know, I appreciate you guys. I appreciate you, Benning. I appreciate you, Eric, because you guys, I know in your comment section, you guys, I've seen it myself, you guys take a lot of heat. You get a lot of messages from people from bringing me on, from you know, talking about these things and criticizing law enforcement officers. Um, you know, I I I've heard from you know Matt Thornton, you know, there's you guys, you know, there's there's some serious pushback to this. People don't want to open their mind and and be critical thinking. Like they just think that I hate the police and I'm just trying to uh bait the police into anything. And well, at the end of the day, you know, police bait people into crimes all the time. Prostitution stings, you know, drug busts, you know, people they they do it all the time.

SPEAKER_02 33:03

So they catch their own doing it.

SPEAKER_09 33:05

Right. And they catch their own doing it, right? So, you know, I don't think it's that big of a deal. I don't really mind the word bait if you want to use that word. I really don't mind it. Um, it's uh what what you need to call it though is a First Amendment protected activity. And if you don't use your rights, you will lose them. And it's important to, you know, it's a power checking balance. You know, I check law enforcement's power um and make sure that they're following the constitution. And when they're not, and when they're engaged in this sort of misconduct, you know, I have a I've my my followers have given me a big platform. My followers and supporters have given me a big platform to able to expose it to the world and fight back. Because as you said earlier, the process is the punishment, right? That seven hours in lockup that I sat, that I sat there, my back hurting, uh, didn't get no sleep that that night, a thousand dollars to get my billboard truck out of the tow truck company the next day, uh out of impound the next day, a thousand dollars, uh, probably like five to ten thousand dollars, probably ten thousand uh for a lawyer. Um, so again, that's the process that an everyday American would have to go through and spend all this money, $15,000. And then yeah, you might win in the end and you might get your $15,000 back in two, three years in a lawsuit. Uh, but what do you do for right now when you need to hire the lawyer? You need to get your truck out, you need to get your car out. Um, that's the process is the punishment. But what Lou Sevillo, the union president, and what most law enforcements doesn't seem to get is that my supporters help me when these things happen. Um, so I I have a big community around me that I don't have to put all the money up myself. And um, the process isn't the punishment for me, you know, it's just it's gonna be the for you. At the end of the day, I knew he made them the biggest mistake that he made because now, you know, at the end of the day, I showed you about the New York Post even turning on him. I was telling you about that offline.

SPEAKER_06 34:47

Yeah.

SPEAKER_09 34:47

Um, but yeah, it I think he made a mistake, and you know, I know he made a mistake, and I think he knows he made a mistake, and you know, it's just unfortunate because he puts my police department, um, my hometown police department in such a bad light, paints them in such a bad light, and uh, you know, he's gonna have to take what what that comes with.

SPEAKER_02 35:03

Yeah, the um, and I I'm glad you pointed out, like, we do get a lot of shit. That is absolutely what happens. We get it from from both sides. We get the the fuck the police crowd. They um especially having you on. We've already I've seen it flying through the comment section. I'm like, okay, that's fair. Like, I can't, I can't discount your experiences with police, and I don't expect you to look at me and say, Well, he's he's different. You don't know me. If you don't know me, then it is what it is. But at the same time, yeah, try to try to get to know me. But at the same time, we get people that get pissed off because I have you on, and they're like, Oh, I, you know, and they're calling you all the names in the book, auditor, felon, all these stupid things. What does it matter? I've had a person that was convicted of homicide on here, I've had people that were wrongly convicted of homicide. Nobody had a problem when I talked to them.

SPEAKER_09 35:53

But yeah, he brought that up. He brought that up in the holding cell trying to taunt me about it. And you know, I listen, I told them what I tell everybody. At the end of the day, um 15 years ago now, almost 15 years ago now, I made a bad decision. I took ownership as a man, I paid the price as a man. Um, since since I've taken ownership, uh I've come out and I've achieved great success. I've worked with police departments, district attorney's offices. Again, I don't understand how you can paint the narrative that I hate police or I have a vendetta against the police. When I literally come on police programs like this, um, I've been on other police uh channels as well. And I bring police officers active or tired or whatever, it doesn't matter, onto my channel, prosecutors, and I and I travel free of charge to go to these law enforcement agencies to to do ride-alongs, to do the trainings. Um, you know, it's not that I'm gonna teach, maybe I would teach them something they don't know, but it's more about building that bridge and and showing law enforcement officers that I'm not the enemy. And I think I think most law enforcement most law enforcement officers get it. Excuse me. I got text as soon as this happened, I put this video out. I got text from a bunch of different cops from New Jersey to Illinois, Florida, and they were like, Man, that's messed up what he did to you, man. That's you were leaving the entire time. That's crazy. So they see it for what it is. Um, hopefully the rank and file officers here in South County see it for what it is. Uh, you know, because I I don't need to I don't need to go to war with the whole police department over this, you know. I'm not trying to, it's my home, you know, I have a family, and uh, you know, they they they they can do a lot of things to try and hem me up.

SPEAKER_02 37:25

And in and to to your point, and this is what pisses me off, is people they want people to go to jail, right? Because they did something wrong. And when they do, they're like, Yeah, that's that's justice, right? But when does that stop? When did you when do people need to make their mind up? Do you want reform? Because it you're a great example.

SPEAKER_09 37:46

You I'd like to call it redemption, yeah. You paid your dues, right? I like to call it redemption. I think I think this country is a country of redemption, and I think that you know, you you you can make a mistake at the end of the you can make I don't even like to call it a mistake bad decision because mistake is like I dropped something, right? No, but you know, it it's it's crazy because if they were held accountable, and I told him to his face, I said, you know what's the difference between me and you, Lou? The difference is all of the crazy criminal stuff that you've ever done, including what you just did to me, you've never taken accountability as a man, and you've never had to pay for anything that you ever done. That's the difference between you, me, and that's what built my character, that's what made me the man I am today. You know, I wouldn't maybe I wouldn't be the man I am today if it wasn't for it. And I, you know, I help people, I try and give counseling to people. I was talking to people, and there was this drunk 18-year-old kid that was there for assaulting his mother. And I'm trying to talk to this kid. I'm like, listen, man, you this is not the way for you. This is this is gonna lead you down a very bad path. Can't be doing this. He's like, well, you know, screw the police, all the police's fault. And that was never my that was never my attitude uh when I was arrested. That was never my attitude. I always wow, I'm an idiot. That that was my attitude from the start. I don't you don't blame law enforcement when you break the law. I blame law enforcement when I don't break the law and they arrest me. That's when I blame law enforcement. But yeah, you know, I'm moving on to bigger and better things, and you know, I I've I think the last five years have uh proved you know my integrity, my character. Um, you know, you're always gonna have haters if you don't have haters. You know, there's people that you know threaten me, threaten my family all the time in my DMs, and what a sad existence they must live. To you know, I'm just some talking head on YouTube, man. You don't know me, you don't you know nothing about me, dude. Like, why why waste that energy and that hatred uh to against me? I don't know. Like, how why am I that important to you? I don't know. Yeah, it's weird. Welcome to being a cop because that's the same. And I get it, and that's what I tell people. I tell people all the time, like, you know, they're like, How do you, you know, you've been violated so many times by cops, like men in uniform, and yet you're so cordial when you talk to a cop, is because I can rationally separate that Faye is Faye, Sergeant Levine, Sergeant Levin, and you guys are different people, right? And I need to no matter what cop comes in front of me, I'm gonna give you the chance, like I'd give anybody else, whether you're a cop or not, that I'm meeting for the first time. Hi, sir, how are you? What's going on? How you doing? And unless you treat me in a way that's you know violating my rights, or you know, you engage in sort of misconduct, I have no problem with you whatsoever.

SPEAKER_02 40:16

Yeah, yeah, I I love that about you, brother. I I really do because it because it's well, it's important, and it I think it's one of the things that Banning and I kind of talk about all the time is with our channel, is we I don't necessarily think that we're different cops than than a lot of cops we we work around. I don't, but when we see example after example after example doing this the last five years, it's opened up my eyes. Like, okay, the view is not what I thought it was. It there's a lot of problems, and that's why we do what we're doing is we're we're trying to help mitigate some of these issues that we're seeing. And I can't fix the world, y'all. And I I try to tell people that all the time. Like, I can only do what I can do using these platforms. Um, and and you can attest to this, Sean, is like it's helpful, it helps people learn things, and you can reach a much more people than you could by yourself in your little fishbowl. Yeah, so that's what I'm gonna keep doing. And the people like you said, the haters come out. You can hate all day long. I've stayed the course on my mission. Sean, you've stayed the course on your mission, and how many years have you been doing it now?

SPEAKER_09 41:27

Five years since 2021. March 2021.

SPEAKER_02 41:30

My five years has not been as successful as yours, but uh we're getting there. Uh, but you know, I uh I do appreciate what you've been doing. What do you got, Benny?

SPEAKER_00 41:41

I was gonna say is everybody that's watching, listening tonight, the whole reason for this is education, not only for the viewers and the listeners, but for us as well. When I joined with Eric on this, I didn't know of so many of the issues out there. Of course, your YouTube is gonna give to you what you put into it on searches and everything like that. And and the light was kind of clicked on. It was more of an issue than I first thought it was, and now it's you know coming in at all angles. A lot of good stuff too, but uh a lot of bad stuff. And it's that's what this whole thing is, just so everybody understands. Uh, it's not for us, it's for the education of everybody. And we're just trying to create that the bond and and and and fill in that gap, exactly why it was started to begin with.

SPEAKER_02 42:25

And we gotta we've got to get cops more constitutionally minded. And one of the biggest Sean, you you can you trained cops, you've done it in the past, and I'm sure you can attest that I can tell you the the last time I had actual constitutional training as a law enforcement officer was in the police academy. And that is most officers that I've talked to. They go through a one-week, a two-week, maybe a month at a really good academy. And that's the last time they touch any constitutional training. Now you tell me how much of the constitution you're really going to absorb in a police academy after a month and then expect to go out in the streets and apply it. And and you're gonna swear an oath to something that you have very minimal knowledge of. How is that possible?

SPEAKER_09 43:15

Yeah, it doesn't, it doesn't, it doesn't really make any sense whatsoever because you're right, swearing an oath to some to to uphold this document, you're swearing an oath that you will defend the constitution, that you will uphold the laws of the state. And for you to not have a any sort of even like an average grasp of that document or the laws of your state, uh, you're just very basic knowledge. There's been cops that don't know what reasonable suspicion is. I've said, you you know, do you have reasonable, articulable suspicion? And they're like, Well, what's that? And and that's literally the basis of any law enforcement career is to know what reasonable suspicion is. I mean, that's how you do your job, uh, that and probable cause, right? So, you know, it it's it's it's scary to see the lack of knowledge, and and that's what happens when you're hiring people not based off of you. know their their credentials or or you know their merit but a lot of these officers in my experience from what I've seen are getting hired because they're you know they're Joey's cousin and they're you know they're this person they're connected to this person especially here again uh in Suffolk County it's a way different beast than a lot of other departments um the the union here is insane but you know they they only hire people that you know will tow the party line that will make sure that you know they they're not hiring the best most articulate educated candidate um they're just hiring the per the yes man and that's what they're gonna do and unfortunately when you have a leadership that's you know that doesn't care about the constitution that has ego problems that has emotional control problems you know that's gonna trickle down and it's gonna it's gonna you know the one apple spoils the bunch right so uh that that is the that is the truth that's why I say the system is bad uh you know people get mad at me they're like you know all cops are bad well I mean I guess it depends how you look at it you know if you look at it as the system is bad then I guess everything in the system is bad but you know I think these individual some of these individual officers like I met yesterday when I was in lockup um you know they they were pretty sympathetic I would say to and they were you know they've talked to me about my other videos they you know they they they obviously watch the videos and they said that they've learned things from me so you know if I if I helped one cop you know people talk about my losses the NYPD loss that I read recently um in the court um you know whether I win or lose as long as I don't give up as long as I don't give up on my mission as long as I if I if I I already won if I change one cop's mind if I changed you know if I helped one person and I and I know I've done that in the last five years so I've already won. I'm gonna continue to put out these videos whether people watch them or not um and I'm gonna continue to you know do these trainings and and and collaborate with officers like yourself and see what see what comes of it see what more I can accomplish.

SPEAKER_02 45:54

Yeah and that's how listen and for officers out there like this is literally I was a I was an academy instructor for a while. I'm a military cop too so for those that don't know I'm still in the military don't let the beard fool you I have to shave it when I go do my military time but I'm an instructor there as well. And one of the ways that we improve is by exposing gaps in training. And nobody looks at it as a bad thing when you're like oh I I see we have a hole over here we you know you we do what we call a debrief that's a common vernacular in in in policing and in the military and the debrief is is there to expose where you screwed up there's no rank no everything's off the table like every everybody is equal rank and you can say your peace when you're doing a debrief whether it is you handle a domestic and you're like all right hey you know banning like bro you you disappeared around the corner I lost visual of you you can't do that shit like that's a

Playing The Footage And Breaking It Down

SPEAKER_02 46:51

domestics are dangerous. Like you know so you do these debriefs well when I see that I'm looking at a way to expose gaps in the training. And when when you were literally the very first um auditor a First Amendment auditor I'd ever seen I never even heard of it until you so when I saw your stuff I was like oh okay let me look into that you know I literally I was like that's obviously there's he wouldn't do like guys anybody I'm gonna look right at the camera anybody out there looking like the balls it takes to risk your freedom to go out and prove a point about your rights like that is one of the reasons why I I love what you do so much. I don't have those balls I won't I can't do that. I would not do that when I retire I'm gonna definitely do it with you though I want to go out there and try it. But my point being is you know it takes a lot of balls to go out there and stand up for your rights. And then two exposing those gaps in training really does help us. You just have to have the frame of mind to look at it as this helps you get better not that it's a personal attack against you as a cop. That's not what it is. It's just exposing a gap in training that we need to fix. There's obviously a problem it's 2026 and people are still getting arrested for the same shit that we're like how are they getting arrested for this?

SPEAKER_09 48:12

Yeah I mean I my YouTube channel has half a billion over a half a billion views I'm sure my Facebook's got a few hundred million so you know if you add it all together just me without any other First Amendment order is a billion views right and for five years I've been going at it three videos a week you know you think that you know you would know you know at least the basics or at least even if you hate the part I don't get is even if you hate me you know whatever you want to say about me um why why would you rest me then unlawfully like why why would you do this? Like all all it is is now we have a talk show that we're doing now we're now analyzing the footage all it does is give me more content right I mean it gives me things to talk about. I mean I would always have things to talk about because people cops are people and people can be bad so that there's always going to be that that factor of police misconduct and especially when you give people some sort of power and authority they're gonna do things that you know but they need to be singled out and they need to be removed immediately not only to help not only to keep them out of that of a position but to set an example for everyone else watching oh if I mess up I'm gonna get fired and it's crazy because and and and it's it's really a it it's a testament to what our country is right now is very divided um you know bootlickers you have you know you have people who love the constitution and hate all cops and whatever they hate tyranny and and and when I came on your show last time people are telling me that's not a real cop you paid him you this this you know he's not a real cop and it's like really it's it's it's crazy like they they come up with these these conspiracy theories that it it makes no sense I bring a cop because how can and if you think about it's such an ignorance it's such an ignorant you know uh thought process to have that there can't be one cop first of all there's many I would say thousands by the by the comments and the text but that support me but there can't be one cop that supports me like it just doesn't make I can't be because they were you know what it is is that these bootlickers they worship the badge they worship the badge and if a badge comes and says that hey I appreciate you Sean appreciate you for exercising your rights you're like but I hate Sean but I lick the boot so like they malfunction because they the the only thing they could say is he's not a real cop because how do you square that how do you put that together I love cops and they're the greatest thing since vanilla ice cream and there are heroes and I hate Sean Paul Reyes I hate Long Island audit and he works with cops what and they go crazy about it really yeah yeah it's it's wild uh the accusations that especially that they're not like it's really not hard guys just google my name you'll find out real fast that I am absolutely I it's not like I can listen he just keeps his I'm sure for you know uh big shout out to your department who whatever department it is because you know they they they let you to do these things where you you actively criticize law enforcement and they're allowing you to have this to you exercise your freedom of speech and you know they they've shut people officers down across the country other departments on social media right they have social media policies and things like that and you know as long as you keep it separate you know you have your two cops one donut you have your job and you know you you're doing great work you you know you're exposing the bad cops you're highlighting the good ones and you know it it gives credibility when it's an active duty or even a former law enforcement officer when somebody from behind that thin blue line comes and starts speaking up and and wanting to better the profession you know that that that carries real weight so I really appreciate what you do because it's one thing I'm just some guy right but you guys are law enforcement officers or former and you know you guys have credibility in in your community.

SPEAKER_02 51:58

I appreciate that yeah it it I you I thank you for giving credit to my department because I I really they I've been doing it five years now plus and I have never even been pulled to the side talked to nothing I've had some people be like bro you had Kyle Rittenhouse on like what the hell like you know like I've had some some crazy guests on but every time I think I think the approach that I take is kind of similar to what you do I just stay respectful. I don't I don't talk crazy I don't say anything that's I think is controversial I just it's a difference of opinion and I think we're allowed to have a difference of opinion and still be friends at the end of the day.

SPEAKER_09 52:39

Yeah and I think that's really what it comes down to is you know Sean you and I would easily sit down and have a few beers together yeah and and not have I think the first time we talked on the phone we talked for like an hour or two hour and a half yeah you were worked up we had a great conversation first time we ever talked it was a while we did I remember but you know it's it's it's it's the problem is nobody critical thinks no nobody has critical thinking skills anymore no one no one no one thinks in nuance you know you know just because like they don't just because cops are bad doesn't mean all cops are bad or just because law enforcement you know I have big problems with law enforcement let me be clear I do I have big problems with law enforcement I have big problems with the culture I have big problems with leadership and law enforcement I have big problems with the lack of accountability the lack of transparency because I've seen it you know you you are a law enforcement officer from one state one department right I've seen multiple and I've heard from multiple law enforcement officers from across this country you know I've been from everywhere from Hawaii you know California Florida you know Washington state and everywhere in between uh and you know there's a lot of problems a lot of these officers they're like yeah you know the leadership is the problem they're telling me like they they they don't back you and if if you were to say something against another officer that did some that engaged in some sort of misconduct you become the prior of department um you know a lot of these guys when they retire they immediately hit me up I'm hey I I'm retiring in two weeks can't wait to tell you what I know about this department and you know I wish they would come up a little bit sooner but you know I'll take yeah I'll take the information when I can get it it's fine.

SPEAKER_02 54:11

Yeah no worries uh I saw somebody in the comments saying banning doesn't have much to say tonight he didn't get a chance to see the video cut off for him guys so he's just kind of letting me lead the way that's why I keep trying to get him to to chime in when I can actual relevant part of the video is very short. So I mean we could you know yeah yeah yeah um let me banning you keep our guest company real quick while I grab that video I had it up and now all of a sudden I can't find it.

SPEAKER_00 54:35

And ever since I've met you Sean I've always been thinking you know how do we and I say we you know the law enforcement community get you plugged in more into like these national events because there's national events uh that offers training for law enforcement that offers different products and services for you know for for gear from from whatever drone you know whatever it is at law enforcement right like a convention right conventions you know and and I'm not gonna mention any of the names of them but I would love to see in the future to where you had an auditorium talk at all of these to where it brings police leadership in to where they can truly see what you're doing and offer almost a curriculum for them and I'll be quiet because I think Eric's got it ready to go.

SPEAKER_09 55:15

Yeah I just I'll just say really quick um you know I think that's a great idea Manning um you know again I'm not an attorney have I learned a lot about the law uh yes I've learned a lot in the last five years I have because some of my best friends are attorneys um and they say that I have the mind of an attorney so for take that for what it's worth I didn't say that they said it um so I've studied a lot about the law I'm not a law enforcement officer I'm not an expert in anything but I think it would help put a face and humanize because I I don't see my sister always tells me this you know if they if they knew who you were if they knew your character if they knew your integrity if they knew the kind of uh father that you are the type of friend that you are uh the type of neighbor that you are they would know they would they couldn't they couldn't hate you and obviously there's always gonna be some people that hate me but you know just to get out there and meet people and meet law enforcement and meet some leadership uh but the problem is is that you know if leadership doesn't want me snooping around and they don't want you know me putting them on social media that's why I commend the three departments that have invited me to do trainings because they took a shot they said you know we're gonna work with um Sean Paul Reyes we're gonna work with Long Island on it you know we're gonna broadcast it to the world and we're gonna be proud of it even a district attorney's office you know how weird that was for me that a district attorney's office these are I spoke in front of 50 lawyers so um and they wanted to they invited me and they wanted to hear from me they gave me all these cool pins and stuff I have patches from like multiple departments you know those coins that you guys challenge coins yeah I have a bunch of those that says like criminal investigator on it hopefully they don't think it's a badge and lock me up over it but you know no you know what brother that's that's a step in the right direction and I love hearing that that is amazing very cool all right Sean um any step criminal and I don't see this is from the district attorney's office in uh Chatham County they gave me this after I did a uh training with them so you know again I love my public servants I just want them to honor the constitution and treat us with respect. It's not a lot to ask nope not a lot to ask um so set us up you you start this woman right here yeah no I yeah I started filming a little bit before this but this this is the woman that she came in after me um she has something to do with a closing or something she was late and she was actually it's interesting because you know the door was locked I did try and open the door because I didn't know if it was locked or not and then once I realized it was locked I'm like okay it's locked and then I rang the doorbell but she she seemed surprised that the door was locked so I don't know if they seen me and my billboard truck you know my 14 foot bright billboard truck beforehand from like one of their windows in the offices on the top floor but uh and they locked the door because she seemed surprised that the door was locked. Question and this is way off topic do you guys do you ever set up like a movie night at home with the kids on that for my kids' birthday what I'll do is I'll put like Mario on there and then I'll play video games I'll put it on yeah we could do everything you could as like an HDMI so anything with an HDMI you can do or you know I'll make a graphic for my son's birthday and it'll say like you know how the Mario and I'll say happy birthday um and and you know when people come to the house for the birthday party it's like it's pretty cool. You know I use it for personal things yeah it's pretty cool.

SPEAKER_02 58:23

Yeah awesome I was just curious yeah just be careful about getting loud music see if it works sneaking into your backyard. So all right let's uh let's go ahead and play this no I did not you don't okay thanks no worries yeah I think there's a doorbell there you said five minutes I'm in the lobby but the door's locked and the receptionist is telling me I have to wait.

SPEAKER_03 58:48

Okay, thanks.

SPEAKER_07 58:50

Does this have something to do with what you're doing or probably I'm an independent journalist I'm trying to speak to somebody regarding a story I'm working on.

unknown 59:00

Okay.

SPEAKER_07 59:03

But no one has come to talk to me about anything I I told them I wanted to ask some questions.

SPEAKER_03 59:08

Oh so it's because of you they don't want you in there?

SPEAKER_07 59:11

I don't know. They haven't said anything they haven't told me anything they just they told me to wait like they told you to wait when I uh knocked on the door.

SPEAKER_03 59:21

Security I guess alright well I'm late for closing in there I'm 15 minutes late so it would be in their best interest to just let me in and I know it's weird Lou Seville how are you?

SPEAKER_08 59:37

Sure no problems I immediately began to leave Luciva would you like to come on I am leaving would you like to come on the channel I'm leaving or you I'm leaving you see me leaving I am leaving I'm leaving I'm leaving Luciva you go on talk you go I'm leaving I am leaving this is the last hey you're the guy from on patrol right I've seen your podcast so I just want to address I can see you in the mirror or in the the reflection you are continuously backing up um I didn't catch that the first time uh so I see that um his shirt does have a patch on it so that would make me think that he is law enforcement but that's a PBA patch I'm I'm 99% positive that's how that's that's not how the Suffolk County patch looks necessary what would a reasonable person believe you're at a police association building this guy's wearing a shirt that has what looks like a police patch badge on the chest I it would kind of make me believe that that's a law enforcement officer they're all cops I'm pretty sure definitely has the bill i you if you hear if you actually you actually hear I invite him on the channel I say I just want to see if you want to come on the channel yeah um invite him on the channel because you know again I I I want to have conversation I want to have more conversations with people like Lou.

SPEAKER_09 1:00:57

I want to have more conversations with people like that but they don't want to have the conversation because they know that the lot they can't they can't beat me logically they they they go and they spew their propaganda the guy behind him the treasurer cj hunter he has a podcast called on patrol and where he just sits there all day and and and you know he talks about how great I'm so proud of my department like it's just it's just nonsense. It's no that's why he gets no views is because he's literally just you know spewing nonsense and and propaganda like why don't you talk about the real issues in law enforcement why don't you talk about you know some things that can actually help law enforcement officers that they're dealing with not just saying that they're the greatest things since you know vanilla ice cream.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:36

Yeah I do want to address this comment that I just saw it just happened to be sitting there uh it says it's from Shikani Toes says and I can't say Sarge is a bad guy I'm assuming we're talking about me he seems to be transparent but I also believe any public officer shouldn't be allowed to have their own social media channels. This is the world we live in. Um I I am not on duty right now so I am allowed to also have my own First Amendment rights. Right so completely disagree with that take and how else are we supposed to improve law enforcement if our own people don't have the ability to use their voice and talk about law enforcement I agree.

SPEAKER_08 1:02:17

So all right let's keep going here what do you think I'm doing I'm leaving so would you like to talk about the hundreds of millions of dollars passing with no I'm not would you like would you like to talk about the hundreds of millions of dollars that the South County law enforcement agent defenses leave what do you think I'm doing I am leaving immediately began to leave that's how the law works leaving yes I'm leaving get off the property I am leaving I am getting off the property trespassing I'm leaving you will be placed I am leaving I am leaving I'm gonna place you under arrest do what you need to do identify myself as a police officer so do what you need to do I am leaving you need to leave I am leaving or you're such a tough guy you're not gonna do it then do it do it I'm you got him with you said you're such a tough guy that triggered it and then you told him to do it and that's that's what got this going is there more I'm leaving hands behind you I'm leaving I'm resisting I'm not resisting I'm not resisting I'm not resisting I'm not resisting don't resist I'm leaving I say I'm not resisting my car and he still has to say don't resist it's just part of their it's it's the the actions uh because you know I I've I've I've come make it clear every time I'm going in cuffs I always say I'm I'm the I'm the opposite of the cop right the cop says no resist don't resist don't resist don't resist I'm I'm not resisting I'm not resisting I'm not resisting just so we're clear yeah yeah I I love it um I I want to give a shout out we had a bunch of people donate and I'm sorry the chat was so crazy I literally just I saw green for a second I I'm gonna assume it was Harrison because he always donates to us so thank you it was Harrison was it Harrison I good good good guess we have we have some very loyal community members with us and uh appreciate them um being able to reach out now we're at the hour mark Sean I yeah uh I I want to be respect your time and um I the only question I really have is where does it go from here?

SPEAKER_09 1:04:15

So I have court July 15th and I I will just touch on one thing because we didn't talk about it I think it's important and and for you guys to understand too um I was charged with criminal trespassing in the third degree it's a class uh B misdemeanor um here in New York State well we have like there's more serious criminal trespassing but irrelevant to what we're talking about here it's usually like you know in somebody's home and something like that. But the only trespassing charge is not it's not a crime it's a violation uh it's like an infraction is the only that's the only one that doesn't require a fence or a gate or enclosed in manner because when they handed me the desk appearance ticket right on it says you're being charged with criminal trespassing in the third degree you have court on july 15th you have an arraignment on July 15th um but right after criminal trespassing in the third it says enclosed or fenced in and i let me you know you're open to the public for you right let me ask you let's see if you guys can know what do you think do you think that if you had to guess do you think that the PBA's headquarters the police union headquarters is fenced or enclosed in any way no you'd be right it is not so literally so in New York that particular and they do it because they don't want to charge me with the infraction right they don't want to charge me with a violation right um they want to charge me with the misdemeanor so they because they want to charge me with the misdemeanor that carries up to six months in jail they make they overlook I guess intentionally I don't know if they can't read or anything because literally right on the paper enclosed or fenced in um so that's one of the main statutes that's one of the main elements in that statute. So that charge just Even if I didn't leave, even if I didn't leave, even if I did remain, uh, that charge wouldn't be viable in this case. Even if I just stood there and said, I'm not leaving, I'm staying here. That charge wouldn't go forward anyway. Um, that if I if I stayed, the appropriate charge would be the infraction of trespassing, a simple trespass. Um, that would be the correct charge in this case. But uh as we know, I left, so neither of them are. So, you know, I have court July 15th. Uh, I've already hired an attorney, Jacob Uriel, former Brooklyn uh district attorney. Um, he's represented me on a bunch of cases here in New York from the NYPD, Nassau County, now Suffolk County. Um, so you know, I'm glad to have a case that is close to me. Not glad to have a case, but I'm glad to have a case that is close to me at least. I don't have to travel to Connecticut or New York City or you know, a whole different state. Um, I'm right in my backyard. To go to court is like a 15-minute drive for me, 10-15-minute drive. So it's not that big of a deal. I'll show up. And I'm I'm hoping that the district attorney here who is elected, his name's Ray Tierney. Um, he uh, you know, no pun intended. He he actually is I did a video. Um, his uh law enforcement

Court Date And Trespass Charge Flaws

SPEAKER_09 1:07:10

arrested really a judge pressed charges on this uh activist. Um, he's part of uh Americans for Legal Reform, um, and he's a supporter of mine, charged him with harassment for filming a judge outside of the courthouse. And um, I did a video and I called on the district attorney to drop the charges. And even though they were fighting back and forth this entire time, the minute I brought the video and I showed the video and I expressed my opinion on it, the next day, the guy actually hired my attorney, Jacob Uriel. Jacob calls me and says, Hey, they the DH has called me and they're dropping the charges against this guy. So they've been, you know, they they've they've done the right when it's been brought to his attention, he's done the right thing in the past. So I'm gonna assume that he's gonna do the right thing this time, and it's a very clear and cut case of this is there's no crime here. So um, I'm hoping that he just you know declines to prosecute. I can move forward with the federal lawsuit, get some depositions in, uh, you know, hold him accountable through the the civil side of it.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:06

Yeah. Um, okay. I I do have more questions, but I don't know you could you could ask you okay. The the one thing is I want he reached out to the paper, at least you think he did.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:18

Right. I mean, I will just say, I will say the New York Post doesn't make it a habit to, you know, it's the New York Post, they don't make it a habit to cover me. So um, you know, it's it's a pretty pro-law enforcement paper, right? Uh you know, so I'm assuming, you know, two hours after the handcuffs were on, they put a they the New York Post uh, you know, wrote an article about this. Um, so I'm assuming he had a contact that he contacted, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:43

Which your paperwork obviously had not been completed, otherwise you wouldn't have been sitting at a table for seven hours.

SPEAKER_09 1:08:48

Right.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:49

So I doubt that was the case, right? Um now in that, what were the claims in the New York Post, the first one, versus the claims that countered it in the second?

SPEAKER_09 1:09:01

Well, I will say the New York Post, for you know, to its credit, or you know, just to speak facts, they didn't really allege anything. They were just telling, they quoted the union president. So obviously they spoke to him because he called them, I'm assuming, and they spoke to him and they said he said that I threatened to go to his house, that I came there and I threatened to go to his house. But he said that I threatened to go to his house when I got there. I I didn't threaten to go to his house. I told him I was putting a billboard. He he left the billboard truck part now, of course, but I didn't threaten anything. I told him I'm and it's not it's I told him I did a live stream the other day. I told him, Listen, I'm still gonna put the billboard truck for me. It's not a threat, it's just it's gonna happen. Just wait. Uh, but you know, he had made it seem like I was threatening to come to his house and I uh threatened them, and then um I was there to intimidate them and illegally trespass and all these lies. And the New York Post just kind of like regurgitated it. What you know, they didn't obviously I was in lockup when they wrote it, they couldn't reach me for comment, but right um the uh uh they wrote the article and it was uh you know, I I don't think it was I think they could have gotten comment from me or at least somebody or at least something, but uh to their credit, they wrote it, they just uh just sent it to you offline, you know. Um they did write another article today, so that's good.

SPEAKER_02 1:10:18

Yeah, yeah. And it I from what I saw, it basically countered exactly what they the the initial statement was.

SPEAKER_09 1:10:28

Yeah, they linked to my video in the article. I appreciate that, New York Post. Thank you. Um, they linked to my video in the article, and then they go down further in the article and they say, you know, based on the video footage, it seems that it doesn't align with the statements that the police union made. Uh, Mr. A has never threatened anyone while he was when he originally went there. He never threatened anybody, and he was leaving the property. So they they actually kind of turned on the police union. So this kind of backfired on him for him reaching out trying to get ahead of this, because I'm assuming that's what he was trying to do,

Media Narrative And Defamation Talk

SPEAKER_09 1:11:03

because he doesn't have a platform like mine, of course, and he he he can't just go live and talk to thousands of people. He has to go to New York Post and everything else, and um, you know, he was trying to get ahead of it and it backfired on him, and now there's a negative New York, not a negative, just telling the truth. They saw the video. What are they gonna do? You know, they saw the video, they saw that I was leaving, they saw I didn't threaten to go to his house, um, you know, or at least, you know, until I was already in cuffs.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:28

Yeah, fair. All right, all right, sir. I I could keep talking about it. I appreciate you guys.

SPEAKER_09 1:11:33

No, I appreciate you guys. Yeah, no, I gotta get to sleep. I appreciate it. Yes, sir. I love talking to you guys. Well, I'll, you know, it's kind of weird. Uh you're already on the channel, technically, so I don't need to bring you on the channel, but you know, we'll bring I'll bring you on the channel in a more official way uh in the future. I love to get your guys' takes. If you guys come across any um, you know, interesting body camera footage, I'd love to take a look at it on your channel with you guys. Um, you know, we'll work it out because I really appreciate what you guys are doing because I think it's important to have actual law enforcement officers come out and speak out against the bad ones because a lot of them they they remain silent, as you know, with you know, nobody wants to speak about these things, and it's important. It doesn't make you a sellout, it doesn't make you, you know, anti-cop or you know, a traitor to your you know, your job. You you're you're doing your job honorably, and you know, people should respect that. And you're you're highlighting the bad cops that are giving your profession a bad name. And it's important, not just as a cop but as a citizen to hold power to account. Um, I think it's probably the most patriotic thing you can do is to make sure that power is in check. Uh, whether that's cops, you know, I tell cops all the time, you know, I get it, people hate you, but you could have been a firefighter. Let's be real. You could nobody hates firefighters, nobody hates firefighters. So you could have been a firefighter, you could have done things differently, could have been an emt, you chose to be a cop. You know, the the the the fuck the police song came out a long time ago. People that we know people hate the police, right? So it is it is it is uh some people just hate the police, and you know, it is what it is.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:03

I won't lie, I work out to it. So um I love that song too.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:06

I love that I play it every time I go by a cop, but it but they usually give me the thumbs up, they're like they like it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:12

They're like uh uh I want my crowd um and banning's crowd out there. I want to make sure if you guys have never seen Long Island's uh page, I got it up, his YouTube channel. Please make sure you go like, follow, subscribe. He is on every platform, but YouTube is probably the most vital one that you can go to. So please make sure you guys go to Long Island Audit and check him out. I'm gonna stop sharing that. I'm gonna go big screen. And I'm just gonna thank you, Sean. I appreciate you uh giving us an hour your time. Um, you're welcome back anytime. If you want to discuss things further, you obviously know my platform.

SPEAKER_09 1:13:43

Check in after my court date. Uh so we'll see how that happens. Or or after the protest. I'm gonna be doing I'm gonna be going live on July 1st at 1 p.m., the police unit headquarters. So um, we'll see how that goes. Hopefully, nothing uh nothing crazy happens on that day. Uh, but you know, it's just gonna be a peaceful protest. My supporters are peaceful, I'm peaceful. You know, we don't use vulgarities, we don't, we don't, we don't do any of that. You know, we could and I and I want to make it clear. I'm not diminishing anybody who curses at the police and says, you know, you fucking dirty pig or whatever. You you can say whatever you want. A cop or any man, really, or any, you know, any person should be able to handle words thrown at them. If you can't, especially if you're doing this job, right, especially if you're a cop, but anybody really should be you should be in control of your emotions that somebody can call you, you know, a dirty jackboot pig and you whatever, and you should be able to hold that down and just you know go about your day. You shouldn't let it affect your whole day. You should just what does it matter? You know, people call me names all the time. I still go home to my beautiful family. I have good friends like Eric and uh Manning here, so you know I'm not really worried about it too much. So, but I appreciate anybody who's watching on my channel. Um, make sure you guys hit the like button and share this video as well. But I make sure you guys check out two cops, one donut, go check their channel out. Um, you know, they're doing good work, they'd review body cam. If you like body camera footage, if you want to hear from you know cops' perspectives on certain uh law enforcement situations, go check out their channel. You know, I'm a I'm a viewer of their channel, I'm a supporter, I'm a subscriber. So, you know, I encourage you to do that. Uh, I think it's you know it's good to see both sides of it, and they have pretty good takes, you know. I'm sure we don't agree on everything, but so is life, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:17

That's right. Doesn't mean we can disagree and still be friends, brother.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:20

I appreciate that.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:21

Thank you very much, Sean. We're gonna stay on for everybody else that's watching. Um, we we we're gonna discuss. I want to just kind of poke Banning's brain a little bit about what you're going through, Sean. So, but you go I will watch later.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:33

I'm going to bed, but I will I will watch it later. I can't wait to hear your guys' thoughts on the whole thing.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:37

No worries. Thank your wife for uh letting us borrow you. Don't worry, we appreciate your time, Sean. Thanks.

SPEAKER_09 1:15:41

Take it easy. Take care, Benny. Bye.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:45

And we'll wait for Sean to bounce out. Okay, there he goes. Okay, so Benny. You're we we we know what happened. You now you got to see the video. You saw what happened. Am I you're you were a cop not that long ago either. I think you're still a reserve cop, right?

SPEAKER_00 1:16:03

No, I went full retired.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:05

Oh, did you go full? Okay, yeah. Never go full retired. So you you're retired, but you know how to work a criminal trespass. Sure. What do we have to do? We have to tell them the the owner of the property has to say that you're not welcome on the property. Right. Even if there's signs posted. If it's open to the public, like that facility is if it's open to the public, then we have to still afford them the ability to leave. And as long as they are in a continuous um, I don't even know what the word would be.

SPEAKER_00 1:16:45

Uh continuously moving.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:47

They're continuously moving, they're not, you know, you know, not putting their heels in the sand or anything like that. It doesn't matter if they're slow going, fast moving, it's like moving's moving. And as long as they're going, then that's it. So if if this is you or me and we're handling the call, I can tell you how I would have handled it. Hey, brother, you gotta go. Uh, you can you're not welcome here. And then I would have gone back in the building. Because if I come back down and you're still there, well, I've already told you, I've notified you, you're not allowed here. Exactly. And now it becomes criminal trespass. It's just a civil thing before that.

SPEAKER_00 1:17:25

So and he may have to come back out and remind him hey, that includes the sidewalk up until this point, or the property up until this point. Let's go ahead and get out of here, you know, and then just treat and treat him as you would anybody else.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:37

Right. And and here's what I don't understand. It's his county. It is long everybody knows who the fuck he is. It's not like it's

Guest Exit And Mutual Respect

SPEAKER_02 1:17:46

a big surprise. He knew who that guy was. That president, I don't know him from Adam, but he knew who Long Island was, and he still went down that path with him. I don't get it. That's ego. This is one of the biggest problems we have in law enforcement is letting our ego take over. And that was I to me, uh, and I'm speculating, but Jesus, how hard is it to say you gotta go and then go back inside? Why did you have to stay with him the entire time? Let him keep asking you questions, keep backing him up, and the moment he said something about you being tough and go ahead and do it, then you done you you couldn't let him call your bluff. You couldn't have just been like, look, I don't want to arrest you. That's what I would have said. I don't look, I know I said I was going to, I don't want to. De-escalate, get him out of there if you don't want him on your property. I like the opportunities to talk.

SPEAKER_00 1:18:40

Obviously. Do you remember what uh what day that this

Host Debrief On Trespass Procedure

SPEAKER_00 1:18:43

happened, the actual event itself, the one we discovered?

SPEAKER_02 1:18:46

I don't know, to be honest. Um, I think at least a week ago, maybe. No, not even a week ago. Because he posted that. Let me look. I'm just looking at his homepage trying to see when he posted that video. Uh no, I'm not sure. It wasn't that long, maybe three days ago.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:10

I'm just curious on on how the New York court system in that county is gonna how long it's gonna take to actually get that the day of where he's actually gonna get to go to court.

SPEAKER_02 1:19:20

Yeah, I I don't know. Looking at the comments, yeah, somebody said as long as they're retreating, Fussner. That yeah, that's that's a good way to put it. As long as he's continuing to retreat. Yeah, absolutely. Um, but no, man, I'm just like this is my frustration with law enforcement. I my own people is like, get your ego out of it. Like you didn't even have to go down there. You could have sent somebody else, but you wanted to go down yourself, which okay, I respect that. May but just talk to people, man. It's not it doesn't have to be all that.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:55

Yeah, and I just you know, we we always go back and probably say it at least on on every live episode. It's we're in 2026. Why are we yeah, I love Sean, but how does he still have the ability for content?

SPEAKER_02 1:20:06

Why isn't the training shouldn't have the ability to have content? No. That's the point is you got guys like uh SVJT, I think that's uh saying no SJVT. I always mess up his acronym, uh Auto the Watchdog, uh HBO Matt, um Jeff is it Jeff Gray? Jeff Gray, I think the homeless vet sign guy, uh honor your oath. He doesn't even talk. He doesn't even talk, y'all. He just holds a sign that says, God bless our veterans or God bless homeless vets or something to that effect, and he still gets arrested. Like if them doing it can't wake up cops, we've got to use our voice to talk about this stuff. It's not it's not it's poor training. That's a part of it. I think training's a huge part of it. I think ego is a big part of it. I think terrible police culture is a part of it at certain departments. And just racking up my brain like that.

SPEAKER_00 1:21:08

Well, this is just such an easy fix. If you sit back and you dissect it, you know, just uh piddly old me looking at something, this is easily fixed in the academy and then ongoing training throughout the the officer's career. Uh, where there's this is not gonna be an issue. And it's just yeah, it just all comes back to the Constitution. It's like and I know a lot of you know, cops get been out of shape, people get been out of shape. It's gotta be mandatory, basically put, and I and I hate overreach, you know, from the government, but but we have a big problem here that's obviously it's getting identified in some areas and it's getting better in some areas, but it's probably getting worse in others. I don't have the statistics on everything. But again, 2026, why the hell are we still seeing videos uh that are filmed yesterday or last week? You know, this should this should be common knowledge now.

SPEAKER_02 1:21:53

Yeah, we see that we see it with people getting ID'd, officers forcing ID when they don't have a right to somebody's ID. That happens all the time. And I just I actually I didn't get an argument, but I had to make a point. There's one of these um pages that I follow on on Instagram, and I'm not gonna say who it is. I don't want to blow them up or anything like that. But they had a video where they were just like, you know, 99.9% of cops are out there doing the right thing. And I'm looking at that and I'm like, man, I I remember when I used to buy into that ideology, and I'm like, that's not true. I think cops are seeing 99.9% of cops aren't out there doing like viral, like corruption news things, newsworthy things where they're out murdering people and stuff like that. Yeah, it's not gonna fall into that category, but are we screwing up every day? Yeah, across the nation, we're screwing up every day when it's we can't handle a trespass, we can't handle you know, we're trying to force everybody to ID when it's not uh legally allowed. They're not even uh they don't even have legal obligation to your ID. You know, um it's crazy. Like it's the simple things. It and those simple things they accumulate and they add up, and that's I think is the frustration of the public. They're like, uh I would just it would be nice if the cop wasn't trying to force me to ID in this situation or putting their foot in my doorway or you know, doing doing all these little things. I mean when you really look at it, it's not little. You're violating somebody's rights. And we gotta get better at it. We got we gotta be willing to admit we're screwing up. That's the big part. Yeah, admit there's an issue.

SPEAKER_00 1:23:34

It's gotta be fixed. But like I was saying earlier, I would love to see some of these large organizations invite Sean out, invite a few others out. Why not? Look at our top top levels of these law enforcement agencies, sheriffs, and police departments, get to do a QA with Sean. But yeah, but put your ego aside, as we were just talking about, do a QA with a guy that's out there doing this on a weekly basis. And how can how can they make their departments better through attrition and then slowly get the information out here and get these freaking officers trained?

SPEAKER_02 1:24:08

Yeah, I agree. Um, I was just about to say, I think our chat will slow down a little bit. I expected a bunch of people to dive out of here when when Sean left, obviously. I I don't expect his crowd to want to have to stick around and listen to us, but we do appreciate it if you do. Um but it's still man, the chat's still blowing up. I'm I was trying to let our community know, like I am trying to get to the comments. They have slowed down a lot. Um, so really appreciate that. Um, so I will I'm that's what I'm doing right now. One of the things, guys that don't know, we really engage a lot with the comments. So um, Sergeant Eric and and get an interview with Brandon Grable. Yeah, clearly established. We are trying to get Brandon on. Um that's coming. We actually, me and Sean and Banning kind of we were doing what ifs, and what we think we'd be kind of cool to do is get Southern Draw Law, which we had on our last show, get Sean, uh me, and then maybe one other, um Mr. Grable, and uh from from um clearly established, and try to get that going uh to discuss his case, this this most recent arrest, and kind of get some attorney's point of view. Now, for those that don't know, Southern draw law is a former cobb. So that makes a big difference. That's a different perspective. Um that's that's unusual.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:35

You know, Eric, I'm I'm thinking this would be a great if we could set this up as a live with all subjects in the podcast studio. Could you could just envision that?

SPEAKER_01 1:25:46

Oh, yeah, yeah. Have them over.

SPEAKER_00 1:25:47

You know what I mean? That'd be legit. Have everybody's channels on there, and then after we get to talk for a while, do a true QA with the audience.

SPEAKER_02 1:25:55

Yeah, we could have the chat right on the TV while we're going. We've done it before. Yeah, for those who don't know, we can do a live in my studio here. Um I just need Sean to fly out. He's the only one that well, no, Southern's out in Tennessee, so he would have to he'd have to make a trip too. But I think he's coming out here for something.

SPEAKER_00 1:26:12

Yeah, I think he said something.

SPEAKER_02 1:26:13

I think when we were chatting, I think he said he's gonna be making a trip out to Texas. But yeah, so man, how do we improve? How do we get better from here? This is this is the pull point of what our show is. So for me, one is is understanding ego, understanding um when it when it triggers, uh getting cops trained in it, constitutional-led training, constitutional-minded policing. It's it is not as prominent as it should be. And like Bannon and I discussed earlier, when it comes to training, police are not getting trained on the constitution. They get case law stuff, they'll get updated case law stuff on arrest search and seizures because that happens quite a bit. Uh but man, uh it it just it's the Constitution is something you swore an oath to, and we should be getting that over and over and over annual. It should be annual training about the Constitution. I I just don't understand how it's not. And I I do want to clarify too that even when you get trained in like there's a reason that lawyers they don't just get trained in the law, they have to go and actually get training in court because reading the law and knowing the law like just by reading it is totally different than trying to practice it to an actual case. And it's the same for cops. Just because we're learning you know, some case law stuff and we're learning, you know, basic theft and and homicide and uh and all the other you know crimes that we have to deal with, property crimes and all that stuff, like we're not law experts. But every crime is different, even when it's the same crime. I can go deal with one. Robbery and then at the 7 Eleven, and then go down to a week later, and I'm dealing with the robbery at that 7 Eleven again. And then I start hearing the elements and come to find out it's more of just theft. Theft from person. It wasn't even an actual robbery. Big difference. In our state, there's different elements to that. Even though it's the same place, it's the same call details. We get there and we find out there's more to it. And we're like, oh, that's kind of a theft from person. And that's just how we have to deal with it. And then the prosecutor can look at the case and go, no, because they know more about the law than we do. And they're going to be like, no, this this is robbery. I'm going to put this down as robbery. And they were like, oh, okay.

SPEAKER_00 1:28:42

So they're the ultimate ones that are that are taking it in.

SPEAKER_02 1:28:46

Yeah. But um, yeah, absolutely. So I'm I'm looking through the comments. Uh KP Nation said, Why aren't these cops trained on the most common issues they're going to run into, like trespass, RAS, photography, video, etc. I I can't. There's such a disparity in training between department to department. It's it's so weird. Like highly trained where I'm at. Right next door, we just had a cop arrest somebody for something that is we know you you don't do. So I I don't know. I don't understand how there could be that big of a difference in the training from where we're at to next door. And then it could be that officer, just doesn't pay attention to give a shit, doesn't treat this like a profession, doesn't strive to improve. I mean, honestly, that's kind of what we do here. Ooh, that's a really bad comment. Abolish officer discretion, Mike Webb. You don't want that, brother. I promise you. If you get rid of officer discretion, everybody goes to jail. Everybody they deal with goes to jail. You're gonna overload the system. Discretion's definitely one of the better things you can have. You don't want to get rid of it. Um what you want is accountability on discretion. That's what you want. So, and what I mean by that is like one of the things that I've been pushing for for a long time is if you're going to, as the DA, if you're going to dismiss a case, I think that that should be a public log and you need to put your reasons why you're dismissing it. Because if it's because the cops didn't do their job, that needs to be known. If it's because you got an overworked caseload and you don't feel like doing that case because it's not as strong as you want, well, I don't like that, and you need to tell people that too.

unknown 1:30:39

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 1:30:40

So I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 1:30:41

What do you think, Ben? Well, that glass door's got to be open at the at the DA level, judge level as well, too. And you know, we hear, especially for what we're doing on this show, is we hear constantly about law enforcement. That is 100% correct. But we've got to get the entire trifecta, if you will. We got to get the DAs, we got to get the the judges. I mean, we've we've got the transparency has got to be 100%.

SPEAKER_02 1:31:02

Yeah, I agree. I agree. And I just I I'm a little annoyed tonight that we had some some cops in the comments saying, like, you know, how could you have that felon on? I look, I've had many a felon on the show. Why can I not have conversations? How are we supposed to like that's that's so asinine? I just can't, I don't understand. Um, country girl, I don't know if you saw my my response. She was asking if I had saw some video from uh the random patriot or something like that. I have not seen it. Some so uh I see Sean got called out by a captain in Ohio when he was bragging he trained a PD near his captain said uh shit. Captain said town or city, and Sean didn't know he'd only trained two PDs, Bergen PD in New Jersey and one in Ohio only. So country girl. Oh my god, he's what all chiefs should be. Sorry, I haven't seen it. She's gonna jump my shit tonight, I guess. Well, I've been missing the last few streams. Banning got an upgrade on the mic. He got an upgrade on everything, y'all. He got a better camera, he got a good mic, he got it all going on. I like it. Um, Eric, you seen Jane Madison audit. That does sound familiar, but I'm not a hundred percent sure, y'all. Um, Mr. Bill Fold in the house. I'm sorry, you guys. I really I tried to get to my community tonight and let them and give you shout-outs. I it just was doing this like the whole night. I I couldn't. I couldn't. Uh we didn't have Alan tonight. Uh Deadleg, I don't know where he went. He was with us and then he just disappeared. Uh so we we had no mods. Uh I mean, let me take that back. We had nobody on the restream to help us with that part of it. Right. Um, but our mods have been here all night and they've been kicking ass. Shout out to our mods for sure. Thank you very much for your help.

unknown 1:33:13

Mr.

SPEAKER_02 1:33:13

Billfold said, I think that if you swear an oath to the Constitution in order to carry a badge and a gun and cannot recite the First Amendment, and you are a proven piece of shit professionally, then you are a proven piece of shit. I don't think that's unfair. Um, I definitely don't expect you to know the third amendment, but if you do, it's a fun bonus. That's my favorite one to go to. I'm like, all right, rookie, what's the well, give me give me the five elements of the first amendment? And then you know, they usually do pretty good. And then you get them on the uh, all right, the most important one, the third amendment. Tell me.

SPEAKER_00 1:33:48

And they're like, oh and is your restream like mine, you know, is I know mine's a different one than yours, but mine on the right will put in 1050 new ones really quick, and then it freezes, then it blurs, then it resets. Is that what you're just doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:34:05

I just think it's because we have so many people on tonight, right? Yeah, I just think it's just it's not it's not designed for this big influx. Yeah, Long Island's people, man, just I we really appreciate everybody jumping on. And I quite a few have stuck around. We're still at around 1200 people, so holy shit, I can't can't believe that. Um, so let's do what we haven't done in a while, Benny. I think we kind of beat this dead horse here talking about this. Let's should we drop jump on uh we haven't looked at police activity in a long time. We haven't broken down a video. Um, um, for those that don't know, when we do show body cam video stuff on here, um we don't we've never seen it. Uh if one of us happen to see it, uh then we'll discuss it. Uh we'll tell you that we've seen it before. But other than that, we know nothing about the call. So uh I am going, I'm trying to find one that I haven't seen yet. Just based on the These are all very long. Sorry. Give me one second. Um, here we go. Pull this guy up. We'll unmute. I'm gonna share the screen. Alright, shout out to police activity. They've got 6.91 million subscribers. So make sure you like, follow, subscribe to those guys. They are putting out good work and they do all the foyer requests to get these videos. So um, it says on 6.426, deputies responded to a domestic violence call after an investigation. They attempted to make an arrest. All right, let's hit play here.

SPEAKER_05 1:36:04

So, what's going on? What's going on, bud?

SPEAKER_04 1:36:07

How are you doing? Huh? Don't touch me, man. Come here. Don't touch me, dog. Don't touch me. Hey, man, don't touch me. Don't touch me, bruh. Back to me.

SPEAKER_02 1:36:19

All right. So far, um, I would have told this guy that he's under arrest. If that's what we're attempting to do. I'm not hearing any verbal commands right now, so that does make things a little more challenging. And right now, uh it's kind of a Benny Hill scene because nobody was set up in a good position. Uh, not trying to Monday morning quarterback these guys, but this was piss poor execution. Um, I'm trying to make a basic arrest. Now, what I do like banning, and you tell me, he's wearing shorts. I don't see any weapons. Hands look empty. So what do we do? We can go hands-on. We go hands on, we earn our paycheck. There's we definitely outnumber him. So, to me, if we gotta make an arrest for domestic violence, and that's what's going on here, and all of a sudden he's deciding to fight back, well, then we're going to now go hands-on. We don't need to go to our Batman belt. Not not necessarily right now. Like this is where you gotta earn your paycheck. So let's

Body Cam Breakdown Of A DV Arrest

SPEAKER_02 1:37:24

uh let's let's keep going.

SPEAKER_04 1:37:30

Hey man, don't touch me with it. Don't touch it.

SPEAKER_02 1:37:54

Okay, I like that. We got some communication going on. Get his arm. Somebody nobody's just hauling off, beating people or anything like that. We're honestly trying to do joint manipulation. This is this is good. Um, let's go. Hold on, let's let's address what's this comment here. Suffolk PD knows who Sean is. They ignored on his video outside PD headquarters. Sean was so fake trying to engage with cops who knew to just pretend he's invisible. I don't I don't understand that comment. Anyway, so let's keep going here. Uh, the officer that's on bottom, he's not having a good time. I guarantee that. It looks like he's stuck in a headlock of some sort.

unknown 1:38:43

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:38:44

Um, I do like this comment. Brian just said, fun fact one out of three cops are just as dumb as the other two. Fair enough. Uh Twitchy skitch in the house. What's up, Twitchy? I see Tim. I am boss. What's going on, guys? I'm starting to see way more of my people. Freeman, I think I've been in the wrong chat since the beginning. I had too many links to his live. Has anyone seen my comments? It's not your fault, Freeman. There were so many comments. That was the problem. All right, let's uh let's keep going.

SPEAKER_01 1:39:39

Not a little officer knows how to grab it. There we go. Maybe it's taking a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 1:39:51

So for me, if I'm the officer that's on his back, now I am just gonna do what I call riding the wave. I've done a lot for those who don't know, done a lot of jujitsu on purple belt, uh, probably a purple belt the whole, my whole life because I don't have the time to dedicate uh consistently enough to get my black belt. I've been rolling since 2006. Um that's why I'm a big proponent of officers need to know jujitsu. I think it's the best martial art for law enforcement because of this. Uh we need to handle people and arrest them as peacefully as we can, uh, trying not to hurt anybody if we can. And in this case, this would be the perfect time to use it. You're on the ground. Every non-compliant arrest is going to go to the ground anyway. So if you're an officer out there that doesn't know it, you owe it to your oath to learn it. You should not be out there on the streets not knowing how to grapple.

SPEAKER_00 1:40:45

Just bottom line with this, the longest, the longer it goes, for those that don't know, the more dangerous it gets. Yeah. Um, you know, hands get loose. We've got a lot of tools, meaning law enforcement are wearing a lot of tools. Uh, they're somewhat secure on belts and whatnot, but they they can they're they are accessible. Yeah, if you can't control ground movement or standing up movement, yeah, you can get in trouble really quick.

SPEAKER_02 1:41:08

Absolutely. So from here, I would uh I would just a lot of hip pressure, try to push down into the guy, and then start working some arm extraction because more than likely his arms are probably gonna be pinned up underneath him now. Um because I think this guy's gonna try to, at least it seems this way, I'm speculating, um, frustrate the the arrest process. Um, but now the the I can see some of the comments is you know, you're putting your body weight down on them and you and they got their arms out underneath them. Yes, understandable. Uh but now it just becomes a slowing things down and talking through it. All right, here's what's gonna happen. I'm going to, you know, relieve some weight on your right side. I want I want that right hand to come out, do it slowly. The other officer, I'm gonna instruct the other officer, is gonna reach in and grab your wrist and put your hand behind your back. And it's just a communication thing. Uh, you know, act like you've been there before. It's it's not, you know, this is to me, and Banning, you've heard me say this a million times on here. This is just part of the job. Like I I'm not looking to it's not personal, you know.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:18

So somebody made a great comment on theirs. All cops need to have a black belt and verbal judo. That is 100% correct.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:25

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_00 1:42:27

Every call that they go to, you've got to have a black belt.

SPEAKER_02 1:42:30

You want to know where we screw up the most in the hiring process, is we have no real hiring um tests for social skills and emotional intelligence. So I'm actually kind of glad that people brought that up because tomorrow I want everybody to know if if if you want to see a more in-depth talk on specific topics in law enforcement, not showing videos and not doing any of that stuff, please check out the gray area. It's a it's a little subchapter on our two cops one donut page uh where I break down specific topics. I think the last one I did was defunding the police. Um, the time before that was use of force uh topic. Um, but tomorrow's is going to be mandatory registry for law enforcement. Um, so if you try to become a cop, if you're a cop and you get in trouble, all of that, all that information in that jacket needs to go into a national registry across the nation. So these rogue Ronin cops can't just float from department to department every time they get in trouble. Um, and to extend on that, cops that get railroaded by their departments, because that does happen too, they don't get screwed. So it's kind of talking about both of those. Oh. You okay, Banny?

SPEAKER_00 1:43:50

Yep. Just one of my lights took a dive.

SPEAKER_02 1:43:52

Okay. All right. We're uh we're gonna keep going here.

SPEAKER_05 1:44:27

Take a leg back.

SPEAKER_02 1:44:36

I like it. They're talking. The bad guy's talking too. He's like, which leg? He's like, This leg. So they're they're communicating. They're not hauling off beating on him. I like that. Um, so so far we're doing all right.

SPEAKER_05 1:45:47

No, it's ten fifteen. No, it didn't have to be like this.

SPEAKER_02 1:45:54

You know, I honestly don't have a problem with that arrest. Domestic violence call. They determined that he's under arrest. I I I would have liked to hear them say, hey, turn around, put your hands behind your back, you're under arrest. Um, but he knew what time it was because he squared up and he's like, uh-uh. And then he got all froggy. Like, if you're gonna fight with the cops, like you can expect to get in a fight.

SPEAKER_06 1:46:16

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:46:17

So that was a fight when it was done. You guys all saw when it was done. The officer was on top of him. You can't just get up because then it could reinvigorate him, and he's gonna think he's got room to run. So I didn't I didn't have a problem with that one. That was good communication. Nobody, no strikes. I didn't see a single strike. So that was great. Um, good communication. They didn't seem to just try to try to write um wrench on his wrists or anything bad like that. It was a good arrest. Good stuff. Um Marine Blood said Eric is a current civilian cop and an Air Force cop, thus two cops, one donut. Banning is a retired cop. Somebody must have asked in the comment. Um Yeah. Love Freedom said, yeah, good cops. I agree. I yeah, I no issues with that with that play there. For those that were watching that one, are you farting over there? Having some lighting issues, man. Because your light fell. Yeah. You look fine, Bubba. You look good. Um, so alright. Uh, I'm gonna go to the comments and we're we'll we'll cut this thing, we'll cut this thing here in in about 10 minutes. So I want to see what everybody's thinking. Um, first and foremost, what was your guys' thoughts on Long Island stuff tonight? Uh I I think we made our opinion pretty well known just based on what we see in the video. I didn't I didn't see anything for a criminal trespass. I didn't see that. Um Huntery one said Sergeant Levine, my colleagues had taser-deployed had a taser-deployed guy laying on his belly, he resisted and died from excited delirium. Yeah, that can happen. Um so excited delirium can be exacerbated by tasers, they can be exacerbated by anything uh that gets their heart rate going because they're already jacked up, and then you introduce electricity and stuff like that. The problem with excited delirium is sometimes you don't know you have it yet. It's it's figuring it out and finding the signs quickly, uh, as quick as you can to help mitigate it. But that doesn't mean you stop an arrest. If if a guy's got a shovel, I've seen people with excited delirium start swinging around a shovel. Yep. I'm not gonna go hands-on with dude swinging a shovel around. I don't want to shoot him, so taser's really the only option. And and you just you gotta mitigate what you can, guys. I I think that's reasonable. Um, Freeman banning. Did you get a new AOL disc? I can see and hear you.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:06

A little bit different, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:49:08

Bro, I kept I kept like freezing, I think, because we had so many people on. It seems to be getting better.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:17

Sean's froze a couple, I'm sure mine did too.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:19

No, you didn't. I didn't see yours freeze anyway. I know I kept seeing myself freeze, and I'd see Sean freeze every once in a great while.

unknown 1:49:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:27

Um Mr. Billfold said this is a whiny chat. I see. Is there people whining? I couldn't tell. I could not keep up. Y'all, it was awesome. It was very fun. I I now see how much trouble it must be for these very large channels to have these chats while they're in here. It's gotta be crazy.

SPEAKER_00 1:49:47

Just a bearded Tim.

SPEAKER_02 1:49:50

I missed it. What'd he say? Banning looking like he's a he's about to read a few novels with 50 Shades of Gray. Freeman said, uh, Long Island audit is a Legend. I tried to win the hundred thousand plaque he was giving away years ago. I think Sean is a legend helping us all out. Uh, I am so glad you gentlemen are associated because I love what you do. Thank you very much. We appreciate that. Um, I saw somebody donate. Dang it, where'd it go? HBO Matt. Oh, it's HBO Matt. He's in the house. He said,

Wrap Up Questions And Closing

SPEAKER_02 1:50:23

Super chat, $5. Who wants to hear two police chiefs conspire to arrest all cop watchers until we stop coming to their towns and take all of our guns away forever? I do. I want to hear it. Bring it on, Matt. Uh, guys, make sure you guys check out HBO Matt. He's out there doing great stuff. Um, Arios says, I was wondering if I had if they had a intercom system on the door, why didn't they tell Sean to leave through the intercom system? That's a good question. That's a I think that's reasonable as well. I I really don't think that they needed to do anything other than just say, hey, you gotta go. And then he leaves. Because if he would have, if they would have gone back inside just behind the glass, he would have had to have leave, it had to have left and continuously moved.

SPEAKER_00 1:51:18

They they didn't have to come out there at all, you know, and it's show that I mean if they're yeah, you know, they're saying this is private and everything, well, don't don't go talk to him. Uh he's not he's not impeding the space for other people to come in. They can let one or two people in, you know, the people that have meetings or that are allowed to be there in. I mean, there were so many different ways to uh to control this, and uh it went the way that we all saw the way it went. So I mean it's just not great.

SPEAKER_02 1:51:42

Yep, agreed. Yeah, I had 65 messages while we were on that. I didn't even I couldn't I couldn't get to it, guys. Sorry, I I saw there's a bunch of phone messages. I had to be respect. Sean only had it, he's like, I got a hard hour. I was like, all right, let me see what I can do here because I had a ton of questions lined up. Um looking uh looking at the things. Sallow, Sallow Ghost said this was a this was a spectacular podcast. Thank you so much. Freedom and our rights are so important. Blessings. I agree. I agree. I think it's uh very important that police get constitutionally minded when it comes to policing, because it's the backbone of our oath. So I think it I think it makes policing a lot simpler once you once you do that. Um and for those out there that keep posting, I I should have said this at the beginning. We don't do politics, we don't do religion on here. So um, if our mods get a hold of you, I'm sorry. It's just we don't do do either. I'm sure they're giving out warnings and whatnot, but yeah, we avoid that stuff like the plague because it's just not the there's there's plenty of other guys that can go do the politics stuff. That's not us. We're here to make policing better, we're here to make uh encounters with citizens better because let's face it, sometimes citizens are the problem. Uh, how often do you see citizens try to weaponize police against somebody they don't like doing something like filming in public or whatever? And they'll call the cops on a guy that's on the sidewalk, a public sidewalk, and now they're trying to amp up a situation that police don't even need to be involved in if you understand basic rights. So it is what it is. What you got going on, Benny? You got any any parting words of wisdom tonight?

SPEAKER_00 1:53:34

No, man, just uh a long work week ahead, but a good work week. Uh two years I've been out of the law enforcement game and now into the into the corporate game, but I'm slowly uh slowly getting used to things and things are getting better. And what about you? What do you got going on?

SPEAKER_02 1:53:49

Uh FIFA is starting to wind down. Now all the the eliminations are coming. So because of that, I don't have to work nearly as hard. Um but uh sorry, I'm just getting comments here. Um but yeah, somebody, somebody's getting this is the semantics part. I'm sorry, I get on tangent. So on another chat, somebody said, You call out cops not being held accountable for their abuse, or you called out cops not be held accountable for their abuse, unfortunate. Hopefully, you're not able to change your tune or your coat when unfortunate events befall upon your gang. If you get that deep in the weeds on the semantics of the words I'm using, get bent. See how many different ways you can figure out what that means. Um, because that if you can't see the the spirit behind what we're talking about, then I guess this isn't the platform for you. So it is what it is. Anyway, FIFA's winding down. I've had to work, you know, 38 days straight because of FIFA, because it's in my city. Um, but I will say I love what FIFA has been, what it's represented. Um, the unity has been more uniting than the Olympics ever has been, in my experience. Um I think seeing all these people come around and uh somebody said, Hey, Sergeant Eric, is Sean going to win this case? Oh, a hundred percent. Yeah, you don't you don't have the elements for criminal trespass on a guy that's continuing to move. Anyway, um, but the people, everybody, I mean, everything I've seen, people have been saying the United States isn't what they thought it was. The media lied to them. They've been having nothing but a great time with the people, the police, the firefight, all the first responders, the restaurants. They love our food. So apparently our food was like a big thing. So the World Cup has been, or yeah, FIFA World Cup has been just great. I think it's made me like soccer or football. I'm I'm not gonna call it football ever, but uh I like it now. I'm I've learned the rules, I I understand it. Uh I I don't have a favorite team other than the United States, because I just don't I don't know the players. I don't know who I know I know Messi and what's the other guy? Ronaldo? Is that the other big dude? Those are the only two names I know.

SPEAKER_00 1:56:23

Yeah, I I need to brush up on a little bit more before I even comment on it.

SPEAKER_02 1:56:26

So I've I've been forced to to watch all these games. So um I I enjoy it. I it's fun to watch once you understand the rules. Now that I know the rules, I I can enjoy it. So it's it's fun. John said, John Felix said soccer is lame. Yes. Hey, I was on the side. I thought it was too. So, but all right, we are right at about two hours. Uh Banning, I got nothing else. Everybody else, uh, I appreciate you guys joining. If you haven't done so already, please. I know um I'm not asking for your hard-earned money, but a like, a follow, and subscribe goes a lot further with us. Um, we really, really does make us makes the mission worth it and uh tells us that we're doing the right thing to keep going. So what you got, Benny?

SPEAKER_00 1:57:21

That's about it. I just appreciate everybody taking the time to uh come to the channel and watch it tonight. So thank you very much.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:27

Yep. Appreciate it.

SPEAKER_00 1:57:28

Ditto.

SPEAKER_02 1:57:29

Everybody to our mods, thank you very much. Uh everybody else, have a good night and take it easy.