Welcome to the Transform Your Mind, radio hour and podcast, a show about transformation, mindset transformation. This is Life Coach Murney Young, and in my book, Out of the Slinger, The Story of Hope and Encouragement, I share my journey of being born in poverty in Guyana to have an abundance in America. And I did it by changing my mindset. Let's go do it. Each week, I bring you guests a one-on-one coaching session to help you change your mindset and transform your life. Welcome back to the Transform Your Mind, to the Transform Your Life radio podcast and television show. I'm your host, Life Coach Rennie Young, and sitting in the guest chair today is Gina DeVee. Gina is the author of The Audacity to Be a Queen. And we are going to be talking today on the topic how women can cure the disease to please. Wonderful topic. Welcome, Gina.
SPEAKER_00Oh, it's so great to be here. Thank you very much for having me.
SPEAKER_02You're very welcome. Awesome, awesome, awesome. All right. So let me give you a short bio, and this is actually one of the shortest I've had a bio on Gina. Gina went from being a broke psychologist to a multi-million dollar woman's empowerment and lifestyle brand with Divine Living. She has dedicated her career to helping women connect spiritually, start profitable businesses, and create wealth from a feminine perspective. Some of the women include Jen Cicero, who, fun fact, dedicated her book on money to Gina. Gina's first book, as I mentioned, is The Audacity to Be a Queen, consolidates 20 years of experience in transforming women's lives through deep spiritual and feminine wisdom of queenhood. Yeah, yeah, that's right. We all are queens, so it's time someone recognizes it, huh?
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes. And I think one of the first word uh sentences in my book is in every woman lives a queen. Yes, exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER_02I love that. All right, so um, as we start off, um Gina, can you share your journey from being a broke psychologist to a multi-million dollar woman's empowerment and lifestyle coach?
SPEAKER_00Sure, sure. Um it's always so humbling to be sitting here and hear the bio because I I remember where I came from. Um you know, so I my parents were school teachers. We grew up in the suburbs of Detroit. And when I became a psychotherapist, I didn't realize I became an entrepreneur because I was just taught you go to college and you get a job, and then money came in the form of a paycheck. But I also went to church and I got the message of, and then you give your money away to people who need it. So it's like I had kind of like a warped relationship with money. Only 10%. Well, you didn't go to my church because we were laying more than that on the altar. So all right. Um, so yeah, those Holy Spirit rallies got expensive, anyways. Um, so I just I didn't really understand it and I was very squeamish about receiving money, but I always had a desire for the finer things in life. So I also racked up $75,000 worth of debt. Not all of it was from shopping, a lot of it was student loans and that kind of thing, but um, you know, it was a real struggle. And I I just was taught, well, if you want to make more money, then work harder and work more hours. So I found I was working $75,000, $75 hours a week, $75,000 in debt. And I was living over two grand a month. And I was, I was live all 30 years old living at home with my parents. And I was like, this is just something's gotta get like there's gotta be a different way, a better way. So I um decided on geographical cure. I couldn't figure out how to fix my life in Detroit. So I was like, let me move to LA. Everyone there seems beautiful and wealthy.
SPEAKER_02So I did it's more expensive.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. Well, the way I was living was it was expensive, the unlived life, you know, it's like you don't get those years back.
SPEAKER_02Right, okay.
SPEAKER_00So I moved to LA and became a life coach because life coaches in packages. Yes. I started selling six thousand dollar packages, which sounds really sexy, except when you're selling one every four to six months, so not so sexy. Um, when the student is ready, the teacher appears. So that's right. Love that. Roomie, yes, yes, yes, yes. So I, you know, found some teachers like the internet had just come out and found some teachers that were teaching internet marketing, and um, you know, we always had a great work of ethic, you know, would go to the LA networking groups and um, you know, to get my message out there, and then, you know, did the work and one thing led to the next. The internet marketing thing was I was in the right place at the right time for sure. And um started selling my business uh programs and my coaching packages, and it's led me to where I'm at today.
SPEAKER_02Oh, that's awesome. All right, so you learn how to sell. You have the content, yeah, you learn how to sell, and I tell you, um, I don't know if um I I should say I know, but but but the reason I say I didn't know is because I wasn't sure if this boom of um has was there before um COVID, but it's definitely booming now. Everybody is selling um coaching and uh they're making big money on it, you know, because there's people that tell you how to, you know, you know, put your your class together and how to market it and and do all the things that you learn to do. It's it's booming now. So that's so that's amazing. All right, so that's a good story. And of course you're in LA, so um uh you probably picked up much more clients there than Detroit.
SPEAKER_00You know, it was it was interesting. It wasn't, I mean, I did, yes, and in going to those um networking meetings. At first it was meeting people in person, and then later getting the online pieces set up so it was meeting people globally, really, um, who are signing up for my programs. And that's you know, I feel like one of the blessings of the internet. There's plenty of curses, but one of the blessings is that we really have access to the global marketplace from our learning rooms. So um yes, but the West Coast was very kind of avant-garde, I would say in 2004, five, six, when we were doing this, um there were people that were like kind of we call them early adapters, and and we got in early. And uh it's for those of us that worked it, it's worked really well.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so that's amazing, awesome. All right, but you kind of segued into a niche, Mark. And one of the niches that you you segue into as a life coach, and a life coach is broad, you know, um, is um teaching women how to communicate like a queen. And um one of the communication modes that you talk about that I find interesting is bitch mode in communication. So explain, you know, what that is, what it sounds like.
SPEAKER_00We'll take a look, let me take a little step back and then we'll take a bunch of steps forward. So my um, you know, I shared with you, I I I grew up Christian, and my book is not overtly Christian, but it is based on the book of Esther in the Bible. Um, you know, Jews know the story from Purim, Christians know it from the Bible, and for everyone else, it's kind of a Cinderella story. Um, basically about the most unlikely candidate to become the Queen of Persia, became the Queen of Persia.
SPEAKER_02You know, I'm gonna I'm gonna stop you there because it's very interesting. I'm just about to um to record. I do a five minutes with Coach Myrna, and I'm actually talking about um the story of Esther in one of my coaching sessions on the radio.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, that's what so I I was like on a plane one day and I've read the Bible through and through my whole life, and I would happen to be reading the book of Esther that day, and it was for the first time it really leapt off the page. And I was like, This isn't just Esther's story, this is the story of every woman, you know, on some level, maybe symbolically, we're some literally, we've all been orphaned, exiled, taken out of our comfort zone, and really have been prepared for such a time as this. And I just really saw it almost as the the heroine's journey of us all, and started doing retreats and and workshops on it. Um, so really the substance of my work is about being a queen based on her story.
SPEAKER_02Ah okay. So you got that from. Got you. Got you, man. So it's um, I was thinking, I was thinking about, you know, when a man calls a woman his queen kind of thing. So that's where I was going with it. Yes.
SPEAKER_00Exactly, exactly. But I I I go through a lot more in chapter four in my book. So if anyone wants like the full Queen Esther story, it's then that so what I also realized is you know, Esther was under an enormous amount of pressure. She had to risk her life. She um, like the king didn't know he had married uh a Jew. And so she had to expose herself, reveal who she was. She could have gotten killed. And even under all this pressure, she maintains what the scriptures say, a pleasing disposition, aka a positive attitude. Um, well, I'm Sicilian, so I can be kind of fiery. And um, one of the things that I do in the book, I talk about the archetype of queen really being our highest self, and then there's all these other archetypes that can show up along the way. And as you pointed out, the bitch is one of them. Um, and it's you know, I think that um what happens is we and I I write about this in actually chapter three, growing up to feel safe, none of us grew up in functional families. Let's just let's be clear. There's some level of dysfunction in every family, and there's some introduct stuff for everyone too. But you know, with the way society set things up, we took either two routes. We took compliance, be the good girl, do everything right, follow the rules, you know, or took defiance. And either both of them keep us out of alliance, our true, true self. And so what I found for myself is I lived so long as little Miss Perfect and Little Miss Good Girl, and I was so compliant that when I was done with that, I did this pendulum swing into defiance. And it was because I still didn't really feel like I had power or was really in choice. So I would let these bitchy comments kind of flow out of my mouth when I was under stress or feeling cornered because I didn't know how to be in alliance. And so that's one of the things that I teach in my book is about how we can really speak the truth in love. You don't have to be a doormat, you don't have to not have boundaries, um, and you don't have to be this bitch about it either. So you can have queenly communication.
SPEAKER_02All right. So um I know exactly what you're talking about because people are always talking to me about tonality, where you know, it comes across very aggressive when I say something, but I don't if I'm if I'm annoyed, but it doesn't mean that I want to be a bitch, it's just my direct way of communicating. So um, so what you're saying is that um, you know, women can, you know, say what they want to say that's on their mind, but say it in a in a queenly way. Is that what you're saying?
SPEAKER_00Yes, exactly. You know, speaking the truth without love, it's just brutal honesty. But it's brutal. You know, and so when you when you come from a place of love, you deeply, deeply, deeply consider yourself, your needs, your desires, what it is that you're looking to communicate, and and you deeply consider the other person also. And so when you when you come from this place, um what you're saying might not be popular, it might not even be well received, but it's um you will feel better about yourself because you will know that to the best of your ability, you actually set up a win-win situation.
SPEAKER_02Right. Okay, all right. Okay, so that's basically the so how would you define the bitch mode of communication then right?
SPEAKER_00Uh it's only considering yourself and not the other person.
SPEAKER_02Ah, okay, got you. So you you don't teach people to do that, you teach them to do something else.
SPEAKER_00And for the and deeply consider both people, yes.
SPEAKER_02All right, all right. So that's probably a good segue to talk about um the archetypes, right? You said um there's four archetypes. Um, one is the princess, the martyr, the saboteur, and the queen. So explain, you know, um uh the arch archetypes and maybe give us an example of the communication in them, and then we can finish up with the queen. Right.
SPEAKER_00Okay, um, sure. I mean, there's there's those are four. I do write about um many, many more in the book, but I think that we all can see ourselves like when when are we self-sabotaging? When are we being the martyr? Like, well, I guess I have to do it again, and it always falls on my lap, you know, that's the martyr. You know what? I'm I'm not going to be available to to pick up that slack this time. You know, that's that's a queen. Um, you know, setting a boundary, um, saying it beautifully, um, and being unavailable. One of the the qualities of a queen is being unavailable for lots of things, being unavailable for overwhelm, drama, other people's stuff, uh, and also not being available to be the martyr.
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SPEAKER_00The princess, the princess mentality, um, you know, it's it's tough for us women because we've read stories from a very young age, or most impressionable time about these princesses, and that someone else is gonna come save them. And that, you know, it's happily ever after, and like there's sort of these perfect scenarios. So the princess thinks that there is this happily ever after in these perfect scenarios, and then becomes very confused and very distraught when real life shows up because real life is not that way, and the queen has the wisdom to understand that. But the princess is like, you know, you have your business and you go and make one post, and it's like, why didn't everybody like my post? And I don't know, these are great comments, or you know, um, you know, in relationship where it's like, well, he's not showing up and saving me, that's his job. He's supposed to do that, you know. So for all of us to get out of the princess mentality and develop the emotional maturity and the wisdom that a queen has, that life isn't perfect, life isn't fair. Um, it doesn't mean it's horrible though, either. It's just the way it is, and then finding your place of contribution in it.
SPEAKER_02Right. I love that. I love that, love that. Okay. Well, yeah, um, one of the things I loved about um Queen Esther's story is you're right, um, you know, she was pushed into this position, you know, to see it to save um her people. And uh, you know, she she embraced it. I love the fact when um she knew how to talk to a king, right? She knew how to, in fact, I wrote that down. Maybe that's the way that I'm going to, you know, when I want to request anything from my husband, you know, you say, um, if it pleases your highness, or, you know, that kind of language that she starts out with. So that was, you know, I found that very, very um amazing that um, yeah, that um she learned how to talk to him. She learned how to get what she wanted from him, and he gave her what she wanted, you know, and um and it's and it's and it is the way she asked for it. And a lot of people, a lot of women per se have a way of asking for things that you know maybe makes the man um don't want to give it because you're not giving him the respect. She give it, she gave it all to him. So yeah, communicating to, you know, like a queen and and understanding how to get what you want from a man, I think that's great. Right. Yes, yes. Okay, all right. All right, so um our topic today is how can women cure the disease to please? Um, I don't know if um we're we're taking a uh, you know, we're we're going off of Esther right now, but um I didn't know she had the disease to please, but yeah, explain what that is and um and and how, first of all, let's talk about the desire to the disease to please. Then how um how you go about teaching women secure it.
SPEAKER_00Yes, yes, yes. So um codependency is really what we're talking about here. It's when we are just operating to get other people's approval, love, admiration. Um, and it's not really a preference. It's like when I was really codependent, it's like it's what I needed to feel safe in the world. Um and if and so I was always monitoring what does someone else want? What do I need to say that's gonna make them happy or that's gonna make them like me or is gonna be acceptable to them. And so too oftentimes modern day women are just terrified of what other people are gonna think about them or what other people are gonna say, and it stops them from being in the relationship they want to be in, or starting the business they want to start, or being visible online, um, or speaking their truth. Like there's so much that the disease to please holds back um someone's truth. It's gonna keep them from their destiny. And so, you know, really healing and uh healing codependency and curing that, so to speak, in our lives, it's one of the most courageous uh journeys a woman could be on to stop needing other people's permission or approval. And um, you know, the more you give yourself permission, the more you approve of yourself is going to be the way that you're going to attract people who feel similarly, and it's the more freedom, it's the way you're gonna live a free life.
SPEAKER_02Okay, so um, so yeah, I mean uh women, you know, always feel, you know, the when they have the the disease to please is that they always feel that um they have to give in, you know, in order to get kind of thing. That that type of that type of thing, you know. Um so um yeah, you know, being authentic and and understanding their personal power um is is the way to not have to feel that you've got to please, whether it's your children, whether it's your man, whether it's your boss, you know, wherever you feel that you need to please, so that um in order for you to get what you want, right? You've got to, you got to please. All right. All right, so um, you know, um uh tell us about your book, The Audacity to Be a Queen.
SPEAKER_00Sure, sure. Well, you can go to divine living.com forward slash book, and there's all the links where um the book can be found on Amazon or wherever else. And it's really uh the the um what do I want to say, the playbook for women in living the epic life, like following your desires, getting clear on what's true for you, giving yourself permission to do the big things, to do the fun things, to live life a pleasurable way, and from a real place of wisdom and and groundedness. Um I talk a lot about the difference between um being masculine and being feminine. Um, there's a lot of fun with the archetypes in there. There's a whole section on money and strengthening your wealth consciousness. There's communication tips. Um, so there's a lot of good stuff in there for sure.
SPEAKER_02Okay, yeah, because you um uh you started off in in your profile, you talked about um the feminine perspective. So um so how are you differentiating that um uh in in being a queen? You know, how are you differentiating it?
SPEAKER_00Yes, well, one of the reasons why I love the archetype of queen is because she's not all feminine, she's not a goddess, what you know, or a mermaid or waiting for her, like you know, prince to come in on, you know, while she's sitting on a rock. Um, and she's not all like masculine, like I'm gonna take the bull by the horns and I'm gonna hustle and massive action and and the Tony Robbins, Gary Vaynerchuk way of being in the world, or like that empowered masculine um way within us, within both male and female, there is masculine and feminine energy. It's just that the Western world is obsessed, addicted to really, to all things masculine. So the difference is masculine energy is all things logical, practical, predictable, linear. It's about action, it's about thinking. Um it's it's about I, you know, so it's like those are all these masculine traits. And ultimately, masculinity is about giving. And then femininity is about the spiritual, the creative, the playful, the passionate, the the nonlinear, it's the circular, it's about feeling, not thinking, it's about being, it's not taking action. Um, and ultimately, femininity is about receiving.
SPEAKER_02I was just about to say that, yes. The receiving, right.
SPEAKER_00And so most of us have seen people in positions of power, whether they're male or female, be the ones giving in control, you know, initiating, taking that action. So that's what we have thought of when we think of success. And it's just a different age and a different time. And um, particularly women need to get better at receiving, receiving a compliment, receiving wealth, receiving attention, um, receiving uh good in their life, and letting there just be space and time to play, to be creative, to relax rather than always working, being productive, being effective, you know, all of that kind of stuff. So, you know, really getting clear that there is masculine energy and there is feminine energy. And when do you use which quality rather than just having the default mode be all things masculine?
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SPEAKER_00Sure, sure. Well, in every area of our lives, but in terms of wealth, so depending on what you're taught or told, most of us have been taught money doesn't grow on trees. You have to work if you want more money, you have to work harder. Um, and it's about like work, work, work all the time and make sure you save up and and you know, save for a down payment for a home and save for money for retirement. So it's all this logical linear stuff.
SPEAKER_02Okay. And the feminine way, and you're saying that's that's the masculine energy.
SPEAKER_00That's that's all the masculine energy, right? And there's nothing inherently wrong with it, but it's kind of like a painting. If a painting is one color, it's you know, one dimensional, and there's just other colors to choose from, also. So it's not about not being masculine, but it's about incorporating the feminine. So you know, the feminine way is gonna be creative and it's gonna take a look at it. It's like, well, saving money for a down payment for a house. The feminine's like, do I even want to own my home? Like, maybe maybe I would rather rent my home and have money to travel because that's part of my value system. Or maybe it's actually smarter for me to take the money that I would have put into a house that was only gonna make X amount over X number of years and put it into a different kind of investment that maybe didn't exist when our parents or grandparents told us, say, for a down payment for a house when real estate was a thing. You know, um, and so that's like the feminine approach of being more creative or spiritually guided or um not so logical and linear, but being circular and looking at other possibilities that might even be smarter. Okay.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I like the creative approach too. That's definitely right, you know. So um, yeah, um, feminine energy is definitely creative, you know. We um, you know, we were built to um create life. So that is that that is definitely feminine energy. Um yeah, so I like that. Um, all right. So yeah, so um is there anything else that you want to share that I didn't ask you?
SPEAKER_00Oh, um, you know, I think the thing to really keep in mind, especially right now for everyone, I don't know anyone that's not reconsidering their life. Like with everything that we've all been through, everyone's asking, what am I doing with my life? And you know, reevaluating, is this even where I want to live? Is this the relationship I want to be in? Is it if is this a job I want, you know, or even if you have a business, like is this the way I want to be doing business? So I really do invite everyone to deeply explore what else is possible. Because the truth is we're not going back to anything. That world and era and consciousness that is done and over. So the world opens up, it's about new and expansion and expression and creative possibility. So um, you know, if you're yearning for something more, a better life, lean into that. If there's desires that you used to put off and say, well, I'll do that later. When the kids go to college, when I retire, when there's enough time or money left over, um, you know, what if you started with your desires? What if you prioritized yourself? What if you said no? What if you set a boundary when everyone's used to you being so available? You know, um, like getting into the best version of you. So that's really why I wrote the book. If you're looking for some help with that or some ideas or lots of stories from me and clients from around the world, there's all kinds of people reinventing themselves, transforming their lives, transforming their money stories, transforming their relationships, their bodies, their health, um, to really live an epic life because it's available for all of us.
SPEAKER_02That's awesome. Right. That's why I've called this is you know, transform your mind. Yes, you transform your mind. Um uh you transform your life, you you transform everything. You know, it starts with basically your thinking, right? And so um, all right. Um so um uh the audacity to be the a queen, um you're you're you're you know, wrap that up for us in a nice little bundle. You know, how does everything that you teach um circle back to being a queen?
SPEAKER_00Yes. So the book starts out about how the epic life is possible. Um, because we got to get back into dreaming. We got to get, especially as adults, we've gotten a lot of things knocked out of us, our self-confidence, things haven't worked out, you know, and it can be really tempting to just sit in the sidelines, take it easy, play small, stay safe, you know, whatever that is. So we got to get back into dreaming again. And then chapter two is on spirituality is your superpower. Look, I'm just not, I'm too old to be working that hard anymore. Like, you know, like it is time for us to really let spirit and God come in, and you know, we got to open up for miracles and we got to open up for big opportunities, and and you know, the way that you know the Bible talks about my ways are higher than your ways, and my thoughts are higher than your thoughts.
SPEAKER_02It's also easier too, because you know, they say you can work hard but not work smart when you when you get the the help of God in your plans and whatever, then you don't have to, you know, be doing it all yourself. You feel me? You will direct your ways, right?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, um, and then you know, when things don't go your way, like being able to rely on spiritual principle, where that's where faith comes in. And you're gonna be miserable if you don't have a faith that this is all working for your good. And then we get into really exploring much more deeply the difference between masculine energy and feminine energy and what it actually means to be feminine. It's not just about lipstick and a manicure, it's a whole skill set and way of being in the world. And then in chapter four, I talk about like the ultimate queen, Queen Esther, and how for this for all of us, this is our for such a time as this moment. We are all uh, you know, have been prepared to, you know, be of service to our people. So that's the the real foundation. So then it's like, all right, well, we're all meant to be queen, and we're then we're starting to look at our lives, like what happened? Why are we not queen? So then we got to look at some of the unconscious thoughts and beliefs about self-sabotage and and and the disease to please and the comparison trap and you know, kind of all of the lack of mind training that most of us have not had. Um, and there's a lot of tools and exercises in the book that really train your mind for success to be the queen of your life. Um, and then we get into the qualities of a queen and like what it really looks like to be a queen. Um, queens aren't broke, so then there's a whole section on money and financial abundance and miracles and around wealth, and then it's kind of bringing it all together. Um, you know, a queen has a community, um, she's not a lone ranger, and a queen has a romantic life, and um, a queen is really a feminine leader. Like we've had so many examples of the masculine leadership, but it's time for feminine leadership in both men and women. Um, and then ultimately um we kind of end up with finally famous. Because I I think that deep down inside, each one of us knows that we're meant for more. And so really letting your light shine and giving yourself permission to be as fabulous and brilliant and capable and successful as you know you're meant to be.
SPEAKER_02Wow, that sounds awesome. I love that. So thank you for you know taking us through, you know, through um uh, you know, your your your thought process in the book. Um uh so that's that's awesome. I absolutely, I absolutely love that. Um okay, so that's perfect. Yeah. So hey, you know, um Gina is just um uh you know giving us a synopsis of what you'll find in her book. Um and um, you know, I love uh the way she broke it down for us um with you know, when should you be a queen or when should you have the masculine, when should you have the feminine energy? Um, you know, um uh yeah, queens are not broke, right?
SPEAKER_01Exactly.
SPEAKER_02And um, you know, the queen is a leader. You know, we might think that um, you know, a queen is is the wife of a king, right? But not always, you know, and even if she's the wife of a king, yeah, she still has power, you know. Um uh the you know, she still has input. She's still a leader. There's um there's a section that she's leading, and there's a section that he's leading. So yeah, so I love that. Perfect, perfect, perfect. Sounds like a great book. So where can uh, you know, this I almost have to ask this question, but it's almost a stupid question because everybody knows you can go to Amazon. But tell us where can get the book. If your book is not on Amazon, then you know, I don't know why. But um, but yeah, tell us, you know, where we can get, you know, they can pick up a copy of your book, um, uh, you know, talk about your website, you know, give us your social media handles, that kind of thing.
SPEAKER_00Okay, sure, sure. Well, come on over to divine living.com. And if you go to divine living.com forward slash book, you can get the get the uh places where all books are sold there. Um, you can also get it on Audible. It's ranked depending on the week, number three, number five on Audible. So people tend to really like hearing my voice tell us some of the stories, but the The hardcover is is really beautiful as well. And there's a Kindle version. If you go to Divineliving.com forward slash audacity, that's where you can get the free companion course to the book. So you don't even have to buy the book, though I want you to. You can get the free companion course there. And if you go to divine living.com forward slash app, you can get a free trial to my uh Q Club app. It's the place for all things queen. It's basically like Queen Netflix. You can go in and get a prayer, a meditation, a cooking segment, business tips, motivation. And there's a whole uh social network in there. So you'll meet all the queens from around the world that are like-minded like you. Um, it's and I do live coaching calls in there and stuff. It's really cool. Uh, we're doing workouts this month because it's wellness month. So we we do some really fun things in there. Uh, you can listen to my podcast, which is Divine Living, or you can find me on Instagram at Gina DeV.
SPEAKER_02So the podcast is Divine Living. Okay, all right. Awesome. All right, well, I've made some notes of all that, and um, all these links will be found on first transcript of my conversation with Gina and links to um her book, The Audacity, um, the app will be and as well as the podcast will be on the show page, um, which is blog.myhelps.us. So, yeah, so um uh and um right, and of course, Gina, I will definitely um connect with you on social media and um and tag you, and everything is already.
SPEAKER_00Yes, everyone listening, take a screenshot of this episode and tag us on social media. We want to hear what your biggest takeaways are.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, awesome, perfect, awesome. All right, yes, um, I love that you are, you know, you've got the book, you've got the um slash audacity, um, but your courses and I the app is that app is excellent, yes. Meeting all the queens around the world. I love that, I love that. You gotta claim it, right? Exactly, yes, you gotta have a community of queens, so that's a good thing. Yes, yes, you have to claim it. All right, well, that's Gina. It's been a pleasure um definitely talking to you. Um, I love I love the topic, I love um the content of your book, and uh you know, and of course, you are a psychologist, so it's coming from um uh the mental background when you're you know when you're you're coaching. Yes, you understand how much the mind plays in in everything that we do, which is yeah, perfect tie-in for the show, right? Transform your mind, transform your life. Yes. All right, well, listen, thanks again, you guys, for tuning in to the Transform Your Mind, to Transform Your Life. Um, go ahead and uh you know get a copy of Gina's book. I love that she's got it an audible because that's where I consume 90% of my books, you know. I walk and listen. So everybody is doing Audible. They get your book on Audible, so that's awesome. Yeah. So go ahead and and connect with Gina, download a copy of her book and um listen to her podcast. And um, you know, just understanding that um uh you're a queen, you know. Um so you're a queen. Do you have anything for the for the fellows?
SPEAKER_00Yeah, actually, you want to know your woman more, read my book. That's good.
SPEAKER_02That's good, that's right. How to treat the queen. That's right. Yes, I love that. All right, guys. Well, listen, thank you for tuning in. Um, if you're not done so already, please um read and review us if you're um listening to this on um iTunes. Um uh, you know, want to invite you, we're talking about life coaching now, want to invite you to join my life coaching group on Facebook, just called Life Coach, where um we're connected to um a whole bunch of um coaches that will help you to become a queen or or um you know, if you're a fella, you know, understand queens. So so yeah, so thank you guys for tuning in. Thank you, Gina, for um sharing your wisdom and your knowledge and um imparting on us that yes, we are all queens. I love the story of Esther, like I said. Um I'm gonna be doing a podcast on it um uh very shortly. Um, because I I was, you know, people are, you know, my pastors and I've heard a lot of people talking about it, but right now, you know, yeah, I'm rereading the Bible. And when I when I read the story, you know, now because like you said, um you mentioned it earlier that you know, when the you know, when the teacher is ready, the student will pair. So a lot of times you read a book five years ago, and when you read it now, you get so much more out of it. Like, you know, your antennas are you know much more attuned. So yeah, when I read, you know, um read the story of Esther, I took um some points out of it that I wanted to teach on. So that's why I'm gonna do, you know, the episode. And you you you took you took her as the foundational principle of your book. Um, yes, Queen. So love that.
SPEAKER_00All right. Well, any last words before we wrap up? Oh, well, thank you so much for having me. And uh yeah, go live your epic life if that's what you're here for.
SPEAKER_02Awesome. All right, thank you guys. So until next time, namaste.