Being BETTER at looking after ourselves: Wellness

Join Aly & Andrew as they spill their quirkiest wellness confessions—phobias and all! Ever wondered how to actually be better to yourself? Spoiler: It’s a lot more than face masks and green smoothies. From mental and physical health hacks (hello, daily dance parties!) to the power of mindfulness in crushing both home life and work, we’re getting real about what it takes to level up.

We dive into why your vibe matters—from mindfulness mornings to team Pilates sessions (yes, really). Tune in for a rollercoaster of laughs, actionable tips, and… maybe a secret Easter egg or two at the end.

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Speaker 1 0:01

Hey Ali.

Speaker 2 0:02

Yes, Andrew.

Speaker 1 0:04

Did you know that keeping tropical fish at your home can have a calming effect on the brain?

Speaker 2 0:12

I have to tell you that that would be the opposite of what it would do for me. Oh no, it does. Do you know why?

Speaker 1 0:17

Why? Well, it's because of all the endorphins.

Speaker 2 0:22

Can I face up and say something Please? Really weird yeah. I have a fear of fish. So I would be absolutely stressed to the nines.

Speaker 1 0:32

Hold on, hold on Park. The podcast episode topic we're going here. What is it about fish that you are scared of?

Speaker 2 0:40

That they can jump out of water and then they flap about and I wouldn't be able to save it because they're scaly fins. I couldn't touch it because they're wet and disgusting and then they would die in front of people. I just slapped like around. Oh, it's so gross.

Speaker 1 0:54

Is this like a recurring nightmare of yours, of like being at the beach and a fish dies in front of you?

Speaker 2 0:59

Yeah, do you know how people have fear of like sharks and like spiders. I don't have fears of that, nor snakes.

Speaker 1 1:09

I have fear of fish.

Speaker 2 1:11

It's a thing. Do you eat fish If it?

Speaker 1 1:16

doesn't look like a fish and it doesn't taste like a fish. That's got to be one of the more interesting phobias I think I've ever come across.

Speaker 2 1:23

I know it's weird. Don't even ask me how it started. We're in the intro. Can we go to the thing we?

Speaker 1 1:28

are in the intro. The joke that came out literally ruined Ali, because she's now afraid of whatever we're going to talk about, because she's thinking about fish. Oh don't, or just the thought of it. Do you like the movie Finding Nemo?

Speaker 2 1:40

Yeah, I can watch that, because that's like a cartoon. It's not real. Do you need a drink of water? I'm okay. I'm okay, I just need to breathe a little bit. Well, I'm glad I need to instill some health and well-being into me at this point.

Speaker 1 1:53

We are kicking into our season of better is better than more being better. And what better place to start than on yourself right, you've got to put the oxygen mask on before you can help others. So we're talking today about health and well-being and how we can be better for ourselves so that we can be better for other people. So we're going to hit the theme song.

Speaker 2 2:12

You're going to get a glass of sparkling. Yeah, no, the oxygen mask just dropped down. I'm ready to put it on.

Speaker 1 2:19

You're good, ready to put it on? I Sparkling water and then we'll come back and we'll talk about some stuff. Beautiful Rock and roll, all right, fantastic. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive. What a time to be alive.

Speaker 2 2:45

Ellie, I'm feeling alive right now. The blood is pumping, Andrew. This is good. It's like I've just had a workout.

Speaker 1 2:50

Now. I think it's important for us to all note that if you listened to the episode before we were talking about this, we uncovered that your approach to your physical and mental well-being has been dramatically changing your life. Yep 100% and that approach to your physical and mental well-being has been dramatically changing your life, yeah, and that only really kicked off like yeah, like not too long ago yeah, when I was 41, 41 which I'm only 38, so I'll get there one day and start kicking my journey off. It was a little while ago.

Speaker 2 3:15

So look, it's been a few years, I'm 48 now, so look, I get it. I get it. And look, for me it was really one to lose weight. But I think most journeys in health and wellness, I guess, start there. But then as you lean in, you realize that it's so much more and I learned really, really quickly that, because I'm a really consistent person, that I exercise every day for about 45 minutes.

Speaker 1 3:38

I exercise what time do you do that?

Speaker 2 3:40

6, 30 every day, every, and it's like it's not even a decision anymore. I roll out of bed. It's like brushing my teeth. I roll out. I go to the gym. I'm an F45er.

Speaker 1 3:49

Did it take time to get there? Not at all.

Speaker 2 3:51

Like literally, I decided one day that was it and then I just went every day. So does that mean you're also good with like making dramatic? Change In fact in my life I make decisions like I'm going to drop coffee. I dropped it 30 years ago or not 30 years, sorry about 25 years ago.

Speaker 1 4:11

Dropped it, never touched it since Back when you were 41.

Speaker 2 4:13

I've dropped. One day I made a decision to drop soft drink. I just dropped it Never got back at it, since I just made a decision to drop sugar.

Speaker 1 4:18

I dropped soft drink and then I had to pick it up and when I open it it went everywhere because it was shaking up I dropped sugar, never gone back to it.

Speaker 2 4:25

So I make these dramatic decisions in my life based upon you know how I got there.

Speaker 2 4:31

Usually it's because I feel like I'm leaning on it too much, and that's it it's all over cravings no, I just drop it, that's it for like sparkling water and sparkling water and dark chocolate are my cravings, 85 lean and if anybody wants to send me some. But those are my things, those are my outlets, and my other outlet call it an addiction, if you want to is exercise. But what has that exercise done for me? Right? So it puts me in an amazing headspace every morning where I feel like I'm resilient, I'm strong and I can achieve the day. It also puts me into this creativity innovation space and it makes me more patient, incredibly patient and it makes me a better advisor.

Speaker 2 5:10

So every day I have to sit with clients, engage with them, help them, help them grow and do really complex thinking on the go, and I also have to make an incredible amount of decisions every day and I understand that I'm going to get decision fatigue because I make them at home and at work. So this, for me, is my space. It's my mental health and wellbeing space. Every one hour every morning, where that's it.

Speaker 1 5:34

It's good to start your day. I think Starting your day with that real positive, like endorphin-fueled, you know the good stuff. Start with the good stuff, so then you're better prepared and more comfortable with it doesn't need to be exercised, like for different people.

Speaker 2 5:48

It's different things. It could be meditation, it could be getting out into nature one thing that I do and I don't do it every day because it would be absolute bonkers.

Speaker 1 5:54

But I have a. I never have a monday approach and so I play golf every monday morning at like quarter past seven in the morning I'm no good at it um but how does it make you?

Speaker 1 6:03

feel it makes me feel real good until I have a bunch of bit shit shots in a row and you get a bit grumpy. But it's, but it's, but what I found it was really good from a mental perspective because it allowed me to worry about a tiny white ball on a pile, pile of green and not have to, and it lets everything else fade away for a bit, and then when you're done, you're like cool, I've, I've done this thing that I enjoy and that's what I get with exercise Like I literally zone out.

Speaker 2 6:25

Do you know how? Sometimes you're driving somewhere and you get there and you're like I don't even know how I got there. That's what it's like for me with fitness Like I completely and utterly zone out. I'm in this completely different space, but when I connect back in, I feel so grounded, I feel like I can feel like the air smells different. I know that sounds incredibly ridiculous, but things are more alive to me and I feel so much more functional. That's cool yeah.

Speaker 1 6:49

So and that's my oxygen mask right. So you made some change, which was health and wellness. We're talking here about being better.

Speaker 2 6:57

Yeah.

Speaker 1 6:57

Not necessarily about more, but just being better.

Speaker 2 6:59

Being better, being a better version of yourself.

Speaker 1 7:01

How like did it take ages before you saw change? Was it was it? Was it now you? Because you're saying you're a naturally a person who can just go done something's changed, so if you try, to make yourself a normal human being stop it.

Speaker 2 7:13

I am normal. What's normal?

Speaker 1 7:14

anyway, there's no such thing as normal no, but if you try and be the average or the mean or whatever you want to throw out there, who probably can't make those decisions as quickly?

Speaker 2 7:22

as you could Like.

Speaker 1 7:24

what kind of timeframe do you think it would be before people would see the benefit of that kind of approach?

Speaker 2 7:30

I think there's an immediate benefit in the endorphins that kick in for most people after exercise. But I think the consistent habit if you're on a weight loss journey it's usually around week four, five, six. If it's in a habit journey, it's usually around the four, five, six mark. If it's in a habit journey, it's usually around the 4, 5, 6 mark.

Speaker 2 7:44

If it's in relation to just how you feel after. I think there is some immediate benefits, but sometimes it's about actually sitting down and reflecting on what is the difference between me the day before and me the day after? What is? Is there a difference in me?

Practicing Mindfulness and Reflecting Joy

Speaker 2 7:59

asking the people around you. Are you seeing a difference in me when I'm doing my meditation, when I'm doing the things that really matter to me, when I'm doing the things that I'm trying to make myself better? Ask the people around you is that making a difference in our relationship? Is that? Is that making you a more patient person? Is that making you a more creative person?

Speaker 1 8:14

I Is that making you a more creative person. I definitely feel the healthier I am.

Speaker 2 8:16

The less you hear for me when I have to like hop up from a chair or pick something like oh sure, but also I've got a number you can make sure you're a better leader.

Speaker 1 8:25

I don't disagree. I like I throw a little tongue in cheek out there. But I do know that like when I am in, and physical and mental wellness are connected but also separate at the same time, and so I've probably spent a lot more time focusing on, like my, mental side of the wellness without necessarily focusing enough on the physical side.

Speaker 2 8:44

But you read a lot of books, no, I don't.

Speaker 1 8:48

I don't read heaps, but I definitely pay attention to a lot more about the way I think, the way I approach you know those very thoughtful that, yeah, I might even say that I might lead thoughts at times or that you've been a thought leader past tense um uh, but yeah but?

Speaker 1 9:09

but I know that, like there's, there's definitely a connection there, but they can be separate, like um, and I've lost my train of thought where I was going this question, but I'm gonna throw it with another one mental and physical wellness. Obviously you've talked a lot about physical activities that you've done that have benefited you, um, and that that has had a flow and effect to your mental um state as well. Um, what about activities that you take that are not necessarily I'm going to go and use my physical body to?

Speaker 2 9:36

do something. I love the intake of information. I love the intake, so I listen to a lot of podcasts. I also do mindfulness and it's on my Apple Watch. It reminds me every day in the morning and evening.

Speaker 1 9:51

What does do mindfulness mean? Or look to you. What do you do?

Speaker 2 9:54

Well, for me, it's actually about reflection. It's reflection on my day, it's reflection on what I'm grateful for. It's a reflection and I also do this thing called moments of joy. So in the greatest traumas and tragedies of my life, my dad taught me this little key of Ali just think of one little moment of joy that you had in that day. And I usually do that just before I go to sleep and it makes me, it puts me in this place of happiness.

Speaker 1 10:20

It puts a smile on my face I do that with my kids, yeah right and when I say I do that with kids, I actually realized like a week ago like I haven't been doing this consistently with them lately, but it was uh.

Speaker 1 10:27

It would either do it at the dinner table, if we're all there together, I do that or we do it as we're tucking them into bed saying good night, and it would be um, what's one thing you were grateful for today? Yeah, um, and, and that was it's that. I guess it's like it's practicing, practicing mindfulness and you don't realize it is it's mindfulness, it's basic, simple.

Speaker 2 10:46

It doesn't need to be ours, it can be just a moment, and for me it's usually um, like my little one crawled into bed and gave me a little cuddle. Or my son said I love you, mom, and gave me a little cuddle. Or my son said I love you, mom, and gave me a little hug.

Speaker 1 10:57

I hope your son's actually in the room. I know he's so gorgeous he's not falling asleep.

Speaker 2 11:00

No, not like Estelle did. He's a gorgeous boy. He's joined me on my road shit. He's joined me on my road shit, my road show Doing a shit on the road with you.

Speaker 2 11:20

I'm tired. Yeah, he joined me on the road show, bless him, and so you know what it's even about. I was able to have a little win with a client today, or lee, and I had this great conversation and it put my head space into it like a different zone, like it's the smallest moments of joy that give me the greatest impact in a day and that's what makes my day and those things are actually easy to practice as a team.

Speaker 1 11:30

I know we're focusing on ourselves individually, but but, like as a business at Illuminate, we practice the whole stand-up approach to things and so we will do like. Every day you go like did you do your thing yesterday, what do you want to achieve today? Is there anything you're stuck with? And what was your win?

Speaker 2 11:47

Yeah, what do you want to share?

Speaker 1 11:49

And some days ideally, we want the win to be something in a work environment, but sometimes it's like, oh, the pothole that was around the corner has been filled.

Speaker 2 11:57

So now we're not kind of like, you know, bodying my cars out kind of thing, and I think it's important to bring that business and that personal. But before I lean into what I do at my workplace, andrew, I want to go to some very important people. We should do that.

Speaker 1 12:07

We should.

Speaker 2 12:08

Let's go to our sponsors, shall we.

Speaker 1 12:12

You know what, ali Whilst, I love building and growing Illuminate, my accounting business. There are definitely times where I get stuck in my own head and I can doubt what it is that I'm doing, and that's where I think the value of having someone external to come and support you within your business. Do you agree?

Speaker 2 12:28

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Speaker 1 12:39

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Speaker 2 13:01

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Speaker 1 13:08

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Speaker 2 13:36

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Speaker 1 13:41

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Speaker 2 13:59

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Speaker 1 14:09

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Speaker 2 14:13

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Speaker 1 14:14

And what I love and you've heard us say this a million times there are people that we work with.

Speaker 2 14:18

We do.

Speaker 1 14:19

And the tech we use and solutions we love, and we've vetted and we wouldn't be where we are.

Speaker 2 14:27

without them, we can put a 100% guarantee on that, oh Jesus, With an asterisk on it.

Speaker 1 14:33

Andrew will not give a 100% guarantee it works for Ali and Andrew.

Speaker 2 14:36

It may not work for you. Yes.

Speaker 1 14:39

Jeepers. All right, stop it. What I wanted to talk really briefly on and this is, I guess, a little bit of my personal journey here too, and I wonder if you or anyone listening to shares as well. So I have a Christian, faith-based background.

Speaker 2 14:53

So do I and shares as well.

Cultivating Wellness in the Workplace

Speaker 1 14:54

So I have a like a christian faith-based background and still uh, like, uh, align myself with those kind of practices to some extent. There's some stuff I like about it, there's stuff I don't. But I remember when mindfulness and meditation started becoming a bit more of a thing in my life and I remember my, my background and some people around me like, oh no, that's the devil's work, you know this, this, the fear I think there was this, this fear of but, but I think, remove the religious nature out of it and and put in the other words, I think there's sometimes a fear of getting in touch with yourself, of slowing yourself down, of being vulnerable, um uh, of you know, of pacing yourself and and what meditation and mindfulness actually could be and what it could look like, and I think a lot of people don't go there because of that, and I remember it.

Speaker 2 15:37

That's very interesting, andrew, because I've never had that thought process. So I'm glad that you're bringing that up, because a lot of other people may feel that way, because I've only ever seen it as a positive thing Absolutely, but in a right it could be perceived in a different way.

Speaker 1 15:50

To flow on Andrew's Christianity podcast items here. Ain't that meditation?

Speaker 2 16:01

it is the same shit, different smell, mate um but.

Speaker 1 16:04

But it is an interesting thing, I think, when you when you look at like, um, the meditation kind of element is like, uh, how do we approach this with an open mind and with with no fear and with no no trying to force it to be something, and I've found. Some people do struggle with reflection oh yeah, stopping your brain is hard when you're someone who keeps going.

Speaker 2 16:23

Yeah, and so meditation could also be like getting out to nature, going for a walk right Yep and getting back to the team thing, that's an amazing thing to do with your team. Go out for a walk during breaks. Yep Go for a coffee break, go for a walk, get outside, smell the fresh air, exactly you know. Can I work through a couple of things that I do with?

Speaker 1 16:40

my team, if you must.

Speaker 2 16:41

If I must, you don't want to hear them.

Speaker 1 16:43

Come on, ellie, it's always about the bullshit you do. Make us all be better.

Speaker 2 16:48

Well, look, I think it lends into that mental health, which is what we were talking about before, and you guys do mental health days, right?

Speaker 1 16:54

We do, yes, so our team. On top of normal leave, they get an extra mental health leave and and that was the perspective of that was surely at least one day a month you're gonna try and get out of bed and not want to get out of bed for whatever various reason, and so we wanted to ensure that everybody had at least one day that didn't impact their ability to take a holiday.

Speaker 1 17:13

Um, for that, and that can be utilized, uh, spur of the moment, or that can be planned in advance, and I, like, I prefer the plan in advance because it's like you need to prioritize your wellness.

Speaker 2 17:21

Yeah, absolutely and look on top of that, we do volunteer days right so some people feel that you know they're contributing to the community and doing something in a volunteer capacity helps them with their mental health, so that's something that we do as well. I also provide like healthy snacks in the office. I think that's so super important and so often we'll bring cakes and lollies and all those things, which is absolutely great and it's great to be a foodie and share that. But to actually um think about the nutrition of your employees and if you're going to bring snacks to, to make sure that there's that balance and that healthy we've had that.

Speaker 1 17:50

We've had moments of that too, where, like where you get in habits of like the real good chopped chip cookies and and you know the skittles and the like, and then it's like oh no, we like. So we make sure where there's always, you know, fresh fruit and those bits and pieces around and making sure there's breakfast, potentially I think it's. I think it's really just you're providing an opportunity for people to and you're leading by example, which you probably do a little bit better than I do when it comes to nutrition.

Speaker 2 18:13

I would suggest I am a definite lead by an example type girl and I and I follow that in every facet of my life because I believe role modeling is so important and I see that impact my children, I see that impact my team and in fact you know I obviously go to the gym every day and I have conversations with my team about oh, what did? I do today and I find that some people that, especially if they enter the team who haven't been into that space, actually enter that space quite quickly this.

Speaker 1 18:38

So this I'm going to hone in on that one a little bit about in the gym. So one of the things we do at illuminate is everybody gets a free gym membership love it so we have a partnership with a group uh, a group called um vertus performance.

Speaker 1 18:47

They're a functional movement training gym. That's the way I describe. It's probably not the way they describe it. Um, that's like a five minute walk from our office. When we built out the rumble, which is the co-working space that we also own and manage, we put showers in there, so people go to the gym, have a shower, all that kind of stuff yeah, amazing um.

Speaker 2 19:02

What we found, though, is that co-workers don't like going to the gym with co-workers sometimes oh really because they don't feel comfortable to get sweaty and and and stinky, or if they're overweight and they're trying to improve themselves when they're standing next to someone who is fit and healthy, and so what we found is like there was a bit of a challenge in terms of doing that, and so there's there.

Speaker 1 19:24

So there's two facets to the thing that we do when it comes to gym membership. There's one it's the accessibility to that space, but the second element, which is probably more important, is that the people who run that space also then come back to Illuminate and contribute learning and knowledge and advice when it's. You know, here's a 20-minute session on nutrition, here's something on mindfulness, here's some breathing techniques.

Speaker 2 19:48

Here's um things.

Speaker 1 19:49

If you're working behind a desk that you could be doing every day to be more focused and more mindful, exercise breaks we're leaning up against the wall exactly, but, but I did find it interesting in terms of in a team-based environment, um, recognizing that everybody's wellness journey is is still a quite a personal one, and you it's, it's a fine line between you don't make an environment and forcing. However, leading by example is a great one, and I love that, like I like you.

Speaker 1 20:10

I don't think you've ever given me shit about the food that I eat.

Speaker 2 20:13

Um, and that's my journey. It's not anybody else.

Speaker 1 20:15

I don't think I'm horribly bad at the food that I eat, but I also don't think I'm particularly good at the same time your choice um, but I think that's a really good point because, like you can have what's the phrase when, like you bash it on people for being healthy.

Speaker 2 20:26

There's like a phrase out there yeah, like health washing or something.

Speaker 1 20:28

Yeah, it's like greenwashing with health. It's like you're giving crap to people. No, I don't do that, but it's the other way around, where I could be like oh mate, bloody hell, he's off to the gym again and you're like hey, do you know what I do?

Exploring Wellness and Growth Journeys

Speaker 2 20:40

get that, and I think it's a bit of both and I would never put my journey onto somebody else. I just role model and if it's something that somebody else wants to take up, they can. And, leaning on that, you provide everyone a gym membership. I don't do that, but we do do team fitness activities, so we've got a few Pilates instructors.

Speaker 1 20:57

We'll go and do a Pilates.

Speaker 2 20:58

I see you doing that? I've got a small team.

Speaker 1 21:01

Yeah, a smaller team.

Speaker 2 21:02

But it's not compulsory, you don't have to go. There's a couple of times where the girls have been like, no, I'm going to do that and that's totally okay. But I'm just giving opportunities, it's good yeah. Because sometimes, if you do go with a group, it might be something that you think, oh, I really like this. I'm going to keep going, giving them the opportunity to take it if they want to and to step into it if they want to but you don't have to. It's definitely a choice.

Speaker 1 21:28

Definitely a choice, absolutely, yeah, I'm so like. I think the focusing on yourself element is so important.

Speaker 2 21:38

Yeah, and I think the way you approach that it has to be individualized, but there's so much generic approach to things that still are valuable, right yeah, and look, I think if anybody's going to take anything from this conversation, it's most probably thinking about your own journey, and if you've been, and look when you're super, super busy, it's the one thing that you tend to let go of. It's the first thing that gets put off the table. But I want to challenge you and say maybe it's the first thing that you should put back on the table, because it's true what they say put your oxygen mask on first. And when I mastered this concept of health and nutrition and wellness, it has enabled me to be more productive, more efficient and a better version of me, and I hope that other people can start to lean into whatever that looks like for them, so that they can find that better version of themselves and so they can be better leaders, better parents, better friends, better daughters, sons whatever they want to be.

Speaker 1 22:38

That's good, I like it. I think, for me, the big part here is, like, when you're focusing on wellness, be it physical or mental wellness, like it, I think. I think, for me, the big part here is like, when you, when you're focusing on wellness, whether it be, you know, physical or mental wellness, um, I think it's a. It's a continuing step in evolution and understanding who you are as a person and how you function and what you know. You know, when you talk about sleep, like some people function better off certain elements of sleep.

Speaker 1 22:59

Some people, um, can or can't eat certain kind of foods you know, caffeine can be really bad for some people, but perfectly fine for others, depending on how you consume it. So I think I think what's important I know part of my journey through from like a mental health perspective and neurodiversity perspective was like taking time to understand yourself, but also spending time with people who know their shit. Because if you're sitting there and you're like I have no idea about any of this kind of stuff, um, you need to talk to someone who knows it. But then the second layer of that is you need to be in a space that you're, that you're you feel comfortable and that is safe enough to explore that, so that when you are confronted with reality, you're willing to accept that and that might be a positive thing. You're like, oh, hey, actually, I'm really, actually I'm really bloody good at that.

Speaker 1 23:42

I knew that, I just didn't really own it. But sometimes it can be a negative element of like, hey, you know what? Maybe like not having a sit-stand desk in your office is a bad thing, and I know that you've been, you know, bitching, complaining about having to spend an extra $600 on a desk, but like it's so much better for you to do that. Yeah, um, all those little things. I think of just facing reality with a positive mindset and looking at this is making me better.

Speaker 1 24:06

I don't have to do more, I can just be that little bit better and that means tomorrow. I can be a better person, for whatever it is that I'm facing absolutely, and I think whatever step you take, just be consistent. Hey, ellie you make me be me better? I reckon, do you? Yeah, you challenge me on shit.

Speaker 2 24:22

And you, my friend, make me laugh, and laughing Makes you better, is also making me better. It's good, and I hope that you're listening out there.

Speaker 1 24:29

I hope that you've got people around you that make you better, that challenge you, that hold you accountable, that make you laugh, that make you feel comfortable and safe, so that you can pursue that too, because our industry and our families and our people need people just like you to be just that tiny little bit better.

Speaker 2 24:44

And I just want to end there and say that we do care about you as individuals, like I care about you, andrew, but both of us care about our community, and so if you do need help, just reach out.

Speaker 1 24:53

Much love all.

Speaker 2 24:54

Excellent. Have a great day.

Speaker 1 25:10

Hooey, wasn't that a fun adventure. My friends, thank you so much, so incredibly much, for hanging out with us today. Ali, you've been amazing. Andrew, you've been all right. How good is it to be able to have adventures together it so is, and you know what.

Speaker 2 25:19

Keep following us. We are all over the socials at accounting adventures. Check us out on the website. Give us a bit of a like. You know how much we love that stuff.

Speaker 1 25:28

The best thing about the adventure is the people that we do it with. So thank you so much for listening, thank you so much for hanging out with us, and please bring all the ideas, keep them coming. We can't wait to share more cool adventures with you. We love you guys more cool adventures with you.

Deep Sea Fish Chat

Speaker 2 25:42

We love you guys, I mean, I shouldn't be laughing, oh I can't believe that came out, I know, thank you, thank you for your support. No, you don't. Don't, please don't.

Speaker 1 25:57

Don't, oh God what about that fish with a, I think you know, the one that lives in the depths. I don't know, I don't want to think with it.

Speaker 2 26:02

I think you're the one that lives in the depths. I don't know. I don't want to think about it.

Speaker 1 26:05

It seriously creeps me out. This is all recording too, dave, just chuck it on the end of the podcast. Thank you very much.

Speaker 2 26:08

This is not the Easter egg. I could do a wrap again A fish wrap yeah. Taco there's no such thing as a fish? I don't.