Seasons Of Change | What if change is the point not the problem

Change didn't knock. It just walked in, sat down, and started asking uncomfortable questions about your pricing, your team structure, and why you're still doing that thing you've always done.

Aly and Andrew kick off the new season with radical honesty about what change actually feels like from the inside of an accounting firm. Spoiler: sometimes brilliant, sometimes a complete disaster, always instructive.

They cover AI (it's not coming, it's here), AML compliance (smaller firms, bigger headache), and the leadership moments that surprised them both. Plus a pretty big announcement about the future of Andrew and the podcast.

Come for the insights. Stay for the honesty. Tell us what change you're trying to make stick right now?

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Jokes And A Season Theme

SPEAKER_03 0:00

Hey Ellie.

SPEAKER_01 0:02

Yes, Andrew.

SPEAKER_03 0:03

How many business coaches does it take to change a light bulb?

SPEAKER_01 0:10

None.

SPEAKER_03 0:14

Three. One to rebrand the darkness, one to upsell the solution, and one to post about it on LinkedIn.

SPEAKER_01 0:24

That actually sounds outright. That's actually very accurate. That's an accurate statement. That is a very accurate statement.

SPEAKER_03 0:31

I've actually got seven more.

SPEAKER_01 0:33

Are you gonna put them throughout the episode?

SPEAKER_03 0:35

I might bring them throughout the episode because this episode is our introductory for the season ahead. And the season ahead is the season of change.

SPEAKER_01 0:44

Seasons of change.

SPEAKER_03 0:45

Like what's change? What change are we experiencing within our industry, within our lives? What does that change look like? And what's going on there? So we might uh hit the theme tune and I'm gonna come back with another of my eight jokes when it goes. Amazing. Right, Allie. Yes, how many business coaches does it take to change life?

SPEAKER_01 1:18

Lord, do we just if I learn from the past it's three?

SPEAKER_03 1:22

No, one. Just one, but they'll tell you the real problem isn't the bulb, it's your limiting belief.

Mindset And Bringing People Along

SPEAKER_01 1:30

Can we have a positive affirmation, please? Because everything. But maybe that's how some people do go through seasons of change with positive affirmations and um looking at things.

SPEAKER_03 1:42

Hey, sometimes there is very much a mindset when you're facing change, having a really positive mindset is actually incredibly important, right? I mean, we've all gone through change in our lives.

SPEAKER_01 1:51

It's hard to do in the midst of it though, I have to say.

SPEAKER_03 1:54

Especially when you don't want to do it.

SPEAKER_01 1:56

Yeah. Or it's uncomfortable. Yeah, but there's so many different types of change. There's change that you implement and are excited about because you wanted the change, but then there's change that's thrust upon you, and you might be really uncomfortable with it. You know, there's multiple layers there, it's like an onion.

SPEAKER_03 2:18

That whole like an onion. That whole, yeah, you're spot on there. Like that whole if I'm driving the change and I'm passionate about the change, it's great. But if I've been dragged into the change and I've been convinced that this is what we need, it's much harder for that. I think there's definitely an art form for the person who's leading the change to bring people around them and get them on board just as much. Um, it's almost like you know how it's like, oh, you know, you need to make sure that they feel like it's their decision on what they're doing. It's kind of like that, but without maybe the greasy sales stuff. But I I know I know it illuminate um when we've had changes works really well. It's where it doesn't it doesn't feel like I'm just like standing from a pulpit yelling at people. It's where I'm like in the trenches working with them and and they're contributing and they're seeing that their voice and their thoughts are actually helping to drive the change, not just complain about it.

SPEAKER_01 3:04

And I think, you know, I've been in this business, professional, corporate world for such a long time. And I think the one thing, like and I've heard, you know, you've got to build up the champions and it's got to be top-down or bottom up, you know. But I think the one thing that has worked consistently with every season of change, whether it be personally or business related, and bringing team on board is actually understanding what the purpose and the why is and and bringing people on that journey so that their alignment of their why and your why is the same because if they're new. It's a framework, right?

SPEAKER_03 3:35

It's having a whole framework in this. Actually, question for you, Ali how many coaches does it take to change a light bulb?

SPEAKER_01 3:40

Oh Lord, we've had none three and one. Okay, um, two.

SPEAKER_03 3:46

No, they don't change the light bulb, they build a seven-figure light bulb changing framework and they sell it to other people to do instead.

SPEAKER_01 3:54

Oh Lord.

SPEAKER_03 3:56

That was my framework. I can see how connected the framework had a framework.

SPEAKER_01 3:59

You're doing well.

SPEAKER_03 4:00

I should note that for business coaches out there, like we work with a number of fantastic business coaches. Uh, so I this isn't directed at anyone in particular. It's more just the joke about stereotypes that people throw out there, right?

SPEAKER_01 4:11

Do you call yourself a business coach?

Service Changes And The AI Shift

SPEAKER_03 4:14

No, um, I say that we sit between the space of coaching, mentoring, and accounting. So we sit in the in-between bit. So I'd I like I'd love to have the um capacity and time to build out a ridiculously long kind of program, framework, all this kind of stuff for everything. But the reality is so much um compliance stuff changes within our world that you build something and then the next week you have to change it again. Yeah. So uh we've got loose bits of framework around how we deliver what we do. Actually, that might be part of uh some of the stuff that we're gonna talk about this season, which one of the topics we want to talk about is change in service offering and what we're experiencing and what we're facing and how we go about doing that. Yeah. So um that's gonna be a thing.

SPEAKER_01 4:55

That is gonna be a thing, and I'm glad we're going through that because I think a lot of people are looking at what their services are and how they can build them out. Obviously, there's gonna be a lot of change with AI coming in, and that's another episode that we're gonna be talking about. Yep. Around the AI awakening and how people are using that in their businesses and what that actually means for us. What can we build efficiencies around? What does that mean around our people?

SPEAKER_03 5:18

We've talked about AI, I think, a couple of times specifically. I know the tech crew have done that a little bit as well, but like like the when we have our next conversation, like it's like the world has totally gone upside down from the last conversation we had around what could be utilised within it too, right?

SPEAKER_01 5:31

There has been a huge shift, even um at the end of 25, early 26, and that's why you're seeing actually the stock market with SaaS companies actually bombing out because it has become so capable. Um, and we're gonna really get into the trenches on that one. So I'm super excited about that one. But yes, things they are a changing, and what I've seen some people do in their practices with AI, it'll frighten people around oh my gosh, it's not just we're not talking about anymore, it's actually implementation process delivering efficiencies.

AML Compliance And Industry Pressure

SPEAKER_03 6:00

It's crazy, super interesting. That's good. So we can do that. Obviously, there's a huge change thing that as an industry we're facing right now, AML uh and all this whole identity stuff. That's something that kicks into play in a few months' time. So um, we're gonna do an episode. I'm actually gonna sub out for that episode, partly because I just can't be stuffed, but also partly because um our our our co-hosts in the tech edition, um Amy and Will, have got a lot more practical connection, understanding, experience in this kind of space. So uh we're gonna bring them in to have a conversation around what does this AML mean for us and how are we facing it, how are we adopting that change? Because, you know, we're seeing, I mean, we we always see people wanting to get out of the industry because there's too much that they have to do. Yeah, you know, we went through COVID and lockdowns and that kind of stuff. A lot of people left because it was just too much they had to do. We're seeing it with you know, tech tech changes, you know, going to cloud, going to AI, all these things, people are are leaving the industry because it just becomes too hard and they don't have the bandwidth to be able to deal with it. Yeah. Um, and this AML is just another thing.

SPEAKER_01 7:00

It's another layer, and it's complex and it's hard, and it's admin, and we can't get money back from it. And it's just like trying to, you know, and I've lived in those mid-tier, big four firms. It's kind of delivering all of that into a small firm. And like that's the reason why we have a small firm, because we don't have to do all of that upstairs.

SPEAKER_03 7:15

So we don't have to. Now, but more than likely we'll see great tech solutions, which will make it a lot of different things. And I've already saying that. But when we're presented with a this is what you have to do, everyone just shits themselves and goes, Holy crap, that's too much.

SPEAKER_01 7:26

And this is where there's so much training actually being pushed out. Um, but that episode will be really practical, like what we're seeing, what we can do, what tech there is. So definitely listen into that one. You know, it might be one of the drier ones, but it's definitely one that's going to pack a punch and deliver some real value in there.

SPEAKER_03 7:43

So it'll be interesting to see how people feel about that.

SPEAKER_01 7:46

What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03 7:47

Like how they feel about the change, right? There's the whole like that the thing I have to do, but how I feel about having to do this, and I think that's a big change thing as well. That whole forced upon, like, do I feel good about this? Because I think with anything, I've always kind of come with that mindset of like I can look at this as like a problem, or I can look at this as an opportunity. It's a problem that we have to change, or it's an opportunity to change, and so that mindset thing is different. Um, speaking of, um, Ali, how many business coaches does it take to change a light bulb? No.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

Ten.

SPEAKER_03 8:19

None. None. They'll just ask the light bulb how it feels about being in the dark.

SPEAKER_01 8:24

Look at you weaving it in like magic.

SPEAKER_03 8:27

Weaving it in.

SPEAKER_01 8:29

Like I'm so confused about how many I actually need now. Like.

SPEAKER_03 8:34

Yep. Yep. Yep, there's plenty. My gosh. That's kind of opportunities there. So, yeah, the change thing will be interesting. I mean, um, we're gonna go, yeah, AML. Obviously, this next this over the year we kind of do our standard episodes that you all know and you all love. We've got our Valentine's Day episode where we share how much we love, which I think you probably would have already listened to. So sorry, you've already listened to that one.

SPEAKER_01 8:57

Um we've got the end of financial year one where Will and Financial Year where we'll get together. The big old Reg Tech will find some time for that, and the Christmas.

SPEAKER_03 9:06

Christmas, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 9:07

And we're gonna have a little bonus one, aren't we, Andrew?

SPEAKER_03 9:10

We are, because part of the season for change this year is some changes coming up with the two of us, or maybe more one of us, not two of us, uh, which is actually me. So um we've been this is our tenth season of recording, and um to episode 77, I think. A really cool, let's just have a chat and see where it goes, has been an amazing way to connect with our community, as well as I think to support just Ellie, you and I just being able to support each other, and then the likes of Amy and Jack, and now Will as well, just supporting each other through that stuff. But for me, and a bit of my my season of change is um I've just recognised that uh I need to take a bit of a step back. I need to start saying no to certain things, and one of those things that I'm gonna be saying no to is this podcast, which will be really interesting and challenging in terms of how that happens. So we we might touch on that throughout the season around how I'm adjusting to that. But um, but what you will hear is you'll hear more from the likes of Amy and Will.

SPEAKER_02 10:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 10:09

Uh Will already being in practice as well, and Amy's supporting that. So Allie's ever constant enthusiasm around her passion for the industry too. So um, I'll start fading out over the next 12 months and we'll do one final episode. Yeah. We did a farewell Andrew episode originally. This is the real farewell Andrew, but this will be a real one.

SPEAKER_01 10:29

I know. It'll be a bit sad, bring the tissues.

SPEAKER_03 10:32

Um yeah, I I I I reckon I got through. I was I was feeling like as soon as I was gonna start to talk about it, I'll probably start crying, but I I held on.

SPEAKER_01 10:39

I know.

SPEAKER_03 10:40

I'm getting better.

SPEAKER_01 10:41

Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_03 10:42

Getting better. You are um uh hey Ali, how many business coaches does it take to change a light bulb?

SPEAKER_01 10:49

None.

SPEAKER_03 10:50

Uh well it depends actually. Is this a quick fix or is this a let's unpack your relationship with darkness situation?

SPEAKER_01 10:57

Let's unpack the relationship with darkness, I think is well, you know what?

Sponsor Break

SPEAKER_03 11:01

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SPEAKER_01 11:31

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SPEAKER_03 11:41

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SPEAKER_01 12:27

Now, Andrew. No.

SPEAKER_03 12:30

How many business coaches does it take to change a light bulb? Oh god, can it be over?

SPEAKER_01 12:36

Like none.

SPEAKER_03 12:38

Uh one. But somehow it costs 15 grand and comes with a workbook.

SPEAKER_01 12:43

That is so true with no implementation or accountability.

unknown 12:49

Lord.

SPEAKER_03 12:49

But we've still got a couple left to go as well.

When A Fix Makes It Worse

SPEAKER_01 12:51

Hey, I've got a question for you, and I'm kind of gonna throw it out there. What's when's one change that you have done in your life that you thought would fix everything, but actually made things more complicated?

SPEAKER_03 13:03

Oh whoa! Oh, I wasn't ready for that. That's that's a good question. That's a really good question. Um man, normally I can fire this off, but I need to I want to think deeper on this. Yeah, no, sorry. Have you got one that you can go with and I can contemplate for a second?

SPEAKER_01 13:23

Yeah, well, I think well, I think the changes that I've put into place, um, maybe it was one that I hadn't made um in the team, and it kind of happened, and I was like, oh, this will fix everything. And then I couldn't get my team right, and it just completely and utterly failed, and so I had to kind of start again. So this is when I was putting grads in um thinking, yeah, that's the solution, I'll grow them up. Um, they'll know everything about all in, they're a little bit cheaper. I thought that would fix everything, and it absolutely did the opposite of that. So I ended up having to nuclear bomb the grads and bring in seniors, and ever since I've done that, my whole team has just been on point. And it's amazing how even though you might pay the seniors a bit more, they take on the stress levels, they take the initiative, they take the accountability, um, so it's taken less stress off of me, and it's we've been the most profitable. So, on a numbers point of view, making that change I thought would fix everything.

SPEAKER_03 14:27

That's so interesting. We I was literally at a uh retreat gathering with the ThinkTax crew last week talking around internal finance, and one of the one of the sessions that we ran was like uh junior or senior, how do you build and grow your team? And and we we effectively had created a debate debate where people got put on a side whether they agreed with it or not, and came back and we did a full debate on it, and it was it was super interesting. Was there a winner? And that's that whole you've changed the way you're strategically bringing people in because one way just didn't work, and now you've changed it. Okay, that's cool. Was there a winner? Alright, I think I've got one for you.

SPEAKER_01 15:03

Yeah, okay, go.

SPEAKER_03 15:04

Um the the the change that we brought in in terms of how we were approaching intermittent leadership. Um and when I say intermittent leadership, so we've had you know key team members that have gone away for Mat Leaf, who have been in a senior risk position, uh, and what we've done in terms of how they've finished up, what we've done whilst they're away, and what we've done when they brought them in. Uh and what we would do is we would kind of just bring in an existing senior team leader, and they would just add that to their portfolio of responsibilities, going, well, they already know the business, they already know the clients, they're a switched-on person, it's all gonna be good. Um, and it failed because they just had too much to do. Um, and often that handover didn't work as well because there was an assumed expectation that they knew what was going on because they were around the place as opposed to not. And so we are yet to have to face doing that differently, but that will be something we do differently going forward. Um, is that we don't just satellite in and a leader from a different area to kind of look after that for an extended period of time that has a significant amount of responsibility. So I don't have the answer on how we're doing it, but okay. So we we're effectively looking at uh one of it's something we've always had is this whole like split responsibility uh approach where you've got a small business like ours and you have leaders and you have multiple things that need to happen, and instead of having 25 leaders, you have three and they do 25 things. Yeah. And so what that means is sometimes they do things really well, sometimes they do things poorly, sometimes things don't get done at all. And so really trying to create greater runway for the team members in that leadership to do it well. Yeah. Because when you get you know high-level leadership people doing things really well, everybody benefits from it. When they do it poorly, everybody suffers as a result of that. So I'd say that's probably a change thing that we brought in when we're trying to manage that change of like time off and whatnot.

SPEAKER_01 16:52

Yeah, the thing that kind of flags to me when you say that is that, you know, the linear um I guess promotion cycle of an accountant is junior to senior, senior to, you know, manager, manager to, you know, director, director to partner. And often people don't have the skill set to make those changes. And so we stick these really senior technical people in a in a HR people management role. And so, you know, just because somebody knows a business doesn't mean that they have that particular skill that they can deliver to the business. And so being really mindful in those times of change that um, you know, they've you've either got to upskill them through education, training, support, mentoring, or they're not the right person for the job. So I think that's a really valid point. But it's so difficult being in a small organization, you know, having to bring another resource in or not utilising what you've got, it sucks because it has an immediate profitability hit, right?

SPEAKER_03 17:52

Absolutely, absolutely. Uh it's so does. Hey, um Ali. Yes, Andrew. How many business coaches does it take to change a light bulb?

SPEAKER_01 18:03

Three.

SPEAKER_03 18:04

One. But first, there's a 12-reak program to help the light bulb step into its power.

SPEAKER_01 18:14

I really feel sorry for this light bulb. It's gonna be well confused. All right, how so how many jokes has that been now?

SPEAKER_03 18:24

I got one left to go. I think that's been, I think it's been eight, and I got a s I got a secret ninth.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

You got a secret ninth. Oh god, okay.

SPEAKER_03 18:31

But this change this changed things though. Well, so you said something that didn't go over planned. Talk to me about maybe change that you've done, business life, something where you've implemented change and it's gone exceptionally well, not the junior decency thing. Give me something different. What have you gone? We've gone and done this, and holy shit, that works so good.

Changes That Actually Worked

SPEAKER_01 18:47

Gosh, now you're pitting me on the stand. Um well, maybe I'm gonna talk about something that I'm doing this year. Um, so you talked about, I think, already the saying no.

SPEAKER_02 19:02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:02

Um this year, um, and I made this decision late last year because of all the things that were going on with me. This is my year of no. So I would normally have a back-to-back calendar of travel and commitments outside of the business plus the business. Um whereas me for this year, it's like, no, I can't do that. No, I'm not gonna be there. No, I need to kind of and so my word for the year actually is anchor. I need to anchor myself and be an anchor to my family and to my team, and so that is what I'm currently doing. And I have to tell you, the early signs of how I'm feeling in my body is good. So I don't feel stressed. I don't, I'm not worried about hurting somebody's feelings, I'm not worried about not being present or available to my team or to my family. I'm not living in a lot of guilt. Um and so I kind of, you know, you know, it's the oxygen mask you put that on first. And so early signs of that is good, and obviously, as we roll through this season, keep checking in on me on that. But the other thing that I think benefits me in this scenario is I don't suffer from FOMO. Like I love that other people are going to events and having a great time and enjoying it, but I don't necessarily need to be there. Um, so some people might struggle more with that than me. Um but yeah, so far it's going okay. But look, we're early feb. How about you?

SPEAKER_03 20:31

A change that has worked really well for me. I'm thinking probably things like like the technology service approach. Like I think if I think back, and I'm going I'm going way back, like this would be like 10 to 10.

SPEAKER_01 20:44

Yeah, you're showing your age, Andrew. You're showing your age.

SPEAKER_03 20:47

I know. Back when I was 27 years old. How old are you then? I'll stop it. Back when I was younger, um, we moved from uh like a bill on completion approach to uh monthly service reasons.

SPEAKER_01 21:04

Oh, big one.

SPEAKER_03 21:06

That was uh an absolute, I know this is a phrase you throw out, I can't want to use it, Marshall. An absolute game changer. Um and it it it gave us significantly more visibility on the work that we we were doing. It gave us uh at that time a point of difference when conversing with um prospective clients. Um and it allowed us to have a better understanding on how we build an efficient business as opposed to simply doing work and charging for the time we spent on that. So that was enormous, and that's still things that people are implementing today. Um it's not perfect, don't get me wrong.

SPEAKER_01 21:42

Um, now that we're at the scale where we're at, it's hard to manage when people come on in the middle of the cycle.

SPEAKER_03 21:50

When things change or when you kind of run it at one point in the year. So we're looking at shifting that to like be a quarterly update for like, you know, quarter of our client base every quarter, right?

SPEAKER_01 21:59

All right.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

We're not locked in. From a bookkeeping internal finance perspective, that's an easier thing to do then for all like a compliance. So yeah, so that that was that was one of the most positive things that the things have changed, I reckon we brought in at that point in time. It just worked.

Small Changes And Letting Go

SPEAKER_01 22:18

That's a good one. Do you know the other the other really big change that you've made um and that you haven't let the listeners know about is that um you've had a shave.

SPEAKER_03 22:27

Oh I thought they'd be able to hear that. There's like there's more clarity in my voice where I would cool poop. Yes, I'm not sure if that's a positive or negative thing if I'm completely season of change. I I got the I got the uh the clippers out and then the full razor out, and I still have a moustache. I've got something sitting there, but yeah, fully shave the beard off.

SPEAKER_01 22:51

I'm still getting used to it, and I have to say I I'm not I'm not there yet.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

Yeah, I'm not there yet either if I'm completely. Right, okay.

SPEAKER_01 22:58

I'm so glad that we're in the same place. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 23:00

Yeah, I I've I've done it and I'll I'm gonna commit to it for a period of time. Yeah. Um, a lot of people might my my mum obviously loves it. She's like, I get this cheese.

SPEAKER_01 23:09

And do people say you look younger?

SPEAKER_03 23:11

Yeah, they do, but I reckon if I grew a beard, if I instantly had a beard like that overnight, I reckon they'd say look younger. It's just you look different.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

You look different.

SPEAKER_03 23:18

So the adjusting are different to being something. Um so there, but um, yeah, I don't know. What is it? I just there was no reason, rhyme or reason around it, other than I was like, I think I might just get rid of the beard. I've been trimming it back, trimming it back, trimming it back, and it was only like uh short to medium length beard. It wasn't my big Ned Kelly ones.

SPEAKER_01 23:33

Is it more maintenance to go clean shaven?

SPEAKER_03 23:37

I think yes, because what I'm finding is if I don't shave for X period of time, I start to look like I've just woken up hungover, and then you've got to like shave it. Whereas when you've got a beard, if you wake up looking hung over, hung over, nah, you just it's your eyes a bit there. Like it's it's different. So with it with a beard, you have to maintain it every now and then to kind of keep the shape. Without it, you've got to maintain, otherwise, you look disheveled. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01 24:04

These are things as a woman I I don't understand.

SPEAKER_03 24:06

So I'm really just trying to Well, you gotta you gotta shave your beard every now and then, don't you?

SPEAKER_01 24:11

Oh, you also mean to be no stray hair chin.

SPEAKER_03 24:17

Ellie Um, how many business coaches does it take to change a light bulb?

SPEAKER_01 24:21

Five.

SPEAKER_03 24:23

Nine. From the initial salesperson until you eventually meet the head honcho, the king being the uh the name leader of the entire business coaching community.

SPEAKER_01 24:39

And I'm sure some of those meetings could have been emails.

SPEAKER_03 24:42

Yeah, probably. Um and it's always that the challenge in the business coaching community. We have, like I said, lovely people we work with and some great coaches we actually have as clients, is how do they replicate themselves? How do they do that well as well that we as an accounting community also for how do we replicate ourselves and do that well?

SPEAKER_01 24:59

Yeah, I know. Being able to let go is part of that.

SPEAKER_03 25:03

So I gotta tattoo to my arm. Let it go. Let it go. Well, hey Ali, the season of change is upon us. There is a lot of change for myself personally. You've got a year of no coming ahead. We're gonna talk about stuff that is an industry we've got. Hopefully, um, all our friends out there, our millions of listeners, are in on board for a season of change that they're open towards. They see it as an opportunity, not as a problem and an obstacle to get in front of. But I think everyone's gonna be at a range. However, you approach it, hopefully, this year of change is one that is good for you. And maybe when we finish up at the end of the year, we could talk about a year of change. What did it look like now, and what does it look like then? And who knows? Hopefully, it's way, way, way better. And if it's not, we learn from it.

SPEAKER_01 25:42

I know, and by then we would all be using AI, we'll all be across the AML changes and implementing them. We'll wh come with us on the journey, everyone.

SPEAKER_03 25:51

It's very pipeline thinking there. Uh like, yeah, we'll all be doing it, it'll be sweet, don't worry about it. Everything will be under control. Absolutely.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

We're not cowboys, come on.

Wrap Up And Stay Connected

SPEAKER_03 25:59

Come on now. Well, Ali, uh, love you. Thank you. Uh, I'm sure we'll see each other in the next conversation. And um, yeah, catch you in later. Wasn't that a fun adventure, my friends? Thank you so much! So incredibly much for hanging out with us today. Ali, you've been amazing. Andrew, you've been alright. How good is it to be able to have adventures together?

SPEAKER_01 26:25

It so is, and you know what? Keep following us. We are all over the socials at accounting adventures. Uh check us out on the website and give us a bit of a like. You know how much we love that stuff.

SPEAKER_03 26:37

The best thing about the adventure is the people that we do it with. So thank you so much for listening. Thank you so much for hanging out with us. And please bring all the ideas, keep them recoming. We can't wait to share more cool adventures with you.

SPEAKER_01 26:50

We love you guys.