The Career Edge™ - by Brize®
Welcome to The Career Edge, where we unpack how work actually works.
Most professionals spend years figuring out the unwritten rules of the workplace on their own. This show is built to change that.
Hosted by Leslie Ferry, founder of Brize and creator of Zandra, The Career Edge explores the questions most career conversations never ask. What actually drives careers forward. How others interpret your decisions, communication, and actions through their unique lens. And how small, deliberate shifts based on this information create momentum that compounds over time.
No generic advice. No recycled career tips. Just honest conversations designed to provoke a question worth thinking about long after the episode ends.
New episodes every Tuesday and Thursday.
The Career Edge™ - by Brize®
What Becomes Possible When The Wiring Gap Closes
Use Left/Right to seek, Home/End to jump to start or end. Hold shift to jump forward or backward.
Understanding The Wiring Gap™ is one thing. Seeing it in real time, in a specific relationship, with a specific person, is something else entirely.
That is where the gap actually closes. Not in the concept. In the relationship.
In this final episode of The Wiring Gap: The Other Side series, Leslie Ferry moves from understanding to application. What does it actually look like to get curious about a specific person in your work life? What shifts when you stop reading them through your own wiring and start seeing them as they actually are?
The answer starts with one question most professionals don’t think to ask.
Not, what do I need from you? But what do you need from me to bring your best to this relationship?
That shift, from assumption to curiosity, changes more than the read. It changes the relationship. And what becomes possible in that relationship changes what becomes possible for you at work.
In this episode:
- Why knowing a framework and seeing it in real time are two different things
- How to identify the specific person in your work life where the gap is costing you most
- What getting curious about someone looks like in practice, beyond technique or checklist
- The specific misreads that feel like disengagement, resistance, and lack of commitment, and what they usually are instead
- What starts to shift when the people around you feel genuinely understood by you
- Why closing The Wiring Gap in both directions produces not just fewer misreads but a fundamentally different quality of professional relationship
The thinking in these episodes is designed to provoke a question. Zandra is built to help you answer it — personally, in the context of your own work: zandra.app/insight
Welcome back to The Career Edge, where we unpack how work actually works. I'm Leslie Ferry. And over the last two episodes, we've been looking at the other side of the wiring gap, how our own wiring is the initial lens through which we see the people that we work with, how that lens quietly shapes the reads we make about the other individual's engagement, their commitment, their capability, and their intent, and how those reads can be more about us,
than about them. In the last episode, we looked at the real questions that live underneath that gap. The ones most professionals are carrying right now, but rarely say out loud. Today we're going to go a little bit deeper or level further, because understanding the gap is one thing, and then genuinely,
Because understanding the gap is one thing. it's gen- and... Because understanding the gap is one thing. And it is genuinely valuable. But there is a moment that matters more than just understanding. It's the no- It's the moment when we're actually sitting across from someone in a real conversation with real stakes and when we feel that open gap. What do you do in that moment? We'll talk about it.
Professional growth can stop at the knowing stage. We learn a framework and we understand the concept. We nod along because it makes sense. And then we walk into our next meeting and operate exactly the same way we always have. Because knowing something intellectually and seeing it in real time are two completely different things. Seeing it requires one thing that knowing does not. A specific person.
not wiring not wiring in the abstract and not a type or a category, a real human being whose name you know, whose work you see every day, whose signals you've been reading through your own lens, maybe without even realizing it. That's where the gap actually closes, not in concept, in the relationship.
Think about someone in your work life right now where things feel slightly off. It's not a crisis or a dramatic breakdown, just this persistent friction. A relationship that it doesn't flow as easily as it should. Maybe it's a team member whose work keeps missing the mark in the way you cannot fully explain, or a colleague whose reactions you can't quite read, or maybe a manager whose expectations feel unclear.
No, many how many questions are clarifying act
or a manager whose expectations feel unclear no matter how many times you ask clarifying questions. You most likely have developed a read on that person that you've been caring for a while and it is shaping every interaction you have with them. But here's the question worth asking about that read. How much of what you believe about this person is based on what you've actually learned about them?
and how much is based on what has arrived through your own interpretation layer? That question, it can actually be uncomfortable, but it's the most useful one available. Because when you sit with it honestly, something unusual surfaces. A moment where you landed on a read and stopped looking. A pattern you assumed about that person that might actually be the gap between your wiring and theirs.
Getting curious about a specific person is not a technique.
Closing the gap starts with getting curious about that person. And it's not about a specific technique. It's not about a checklist of questions to ask in a one-on-one. It is a genuine shift in what you pay attention to. Instead of paying attention to whether they're ⁓ meeting your expectations or...
Instead of paying attention to whether they're meeting your expectations, you start paying attention to how they operate when they're at their best. What conditions seem to bring out their clearest thinking? What kind of direction makes them move with confidence? What seems to drain them versus what seems to energize them? Instead of paying attention to what they're not doing, you start paying attention to what they're doing that you might be misreading.
The quiet that you read as disagreement may have been them analyzing or processing information. The questions you read as resistance when they were considering impacts on others. The pace you read as lack of commitment when their natural instinct is thoroughness. The thought they don't get it when they just needed more clarity on the why to move forward. And instead of waiting for them to show up differently,
you start asking a different kind of question in your interactions with them. Not what did I...
Not what do I need from them, but what do they need from me to bring their best to this relationship? That shift almost feels too simple, but it changes the entire dynamic of a relationship because the other person feels it. They start to feel heard and understood, and that feeling gives them the permission and confidence to show up fully.
Here's what starts to happen when you get more curious about the specific people in your work life. The relationship that felt difficult starts to feel navigable. The relationship that felt difficult starts to feel easier to navigate. Not because the other person changed, because you stopped reading them through your own wiring and started seeing them as they are and what they need. The team member whose work kept missing the mark starts hitting it.
Not because something changed.
The team member whose work started.
Hello?
What are you going to do? Okay. Okay. ⁓
Go with dad, Remy.
The team members whose work kept missing the mark starts hitting it. Not because something changed in their capability, that's always been there. Because the direction you're giving them matches how they receive it. The colleague whose reactions you couldn't quite read becomes someone you understand. Not perfectly and not all at once, but enough to stop misreading them in the moments that matter most. You see them now with clarity and understanding.
And something else starts to happen that is harder to name, but just as real. The people around you start to trust you differently. Not because you become more skilled or more knowledgeable, because they feel genuinely understood by you. And the ability to make someone feel truly seen for who they actually are, rather than who your wiring told you they were, is one of the rarest and most valuable things one professional can offer another.
That trust changes what's possible. Ideas move faster. Collaboration becomes real. Opportunities arrive that neither person could have created alone. This is what closing the wiring gap in both directions actually produces. Not just fewer misreads, a fundamentally different quality of professional relationship.
One where the gap between intent and impact starts to shrink on both sides.
This is what closing the wiring gap in both directions actually produces. Not just fewer misreads, a fundamentally different quality of professional relationship. One where the gap between intent and impact starts to shrink on both sides, in both directions.
The wiring gap runs in both directions. We've spent several episodes looking at the side most people didn't know they need to examine. The gap on, the gap our own wiring gap places between us and the people we work with every day. Seeing it does not make you a different person. It makes you more accurate. Seeing it doesn't make you a different person. It makes you a more accurate one.
Someone who reads are based on what is actually true about the people around them, not just what has arrived through their own interpretation layer. And that accuracy built one relationship at a time, one curious question at a time, is what changes what becomes possible for you at work, not just in how you lead in what finds you. The thinking in these episodes is designed to provoke a question. Zandra is built to help you answer it.
personally in the context of your own work, zandra.app forward slash insight. Thanks for listening to the Career Edge. I'll see you next time.