On February 26, 2020, just a few weeks before COVID 19 became a household name, Gary and I (with friend John Hard) recorded a conversation together on "Dealing with Discouragement." Unknown to me at the time, I was just recovering from COVID myself, thinking it had been bronchitis.
So it is even more fascinating for us to look back at this discussion in light of what would become a national discouragement for months to come. As Gary and I re-listened to it, we thought it worthwhile to share with all of you.
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